Hey fellow EVO's!
I'm looking for a solution to the poor audio quality when recording in a high volume setting (concerts, jam sessions) when using the internal microphone.
Yes, I know that it is not the phone's main use as a personal recorder for this sort of scenarios, but as we all know, the iPhone does it a lot better and I'd really like to show up the iPhone geeks if possible by using an external mic with a recording app.
There's this multifunction audio cable from HTC that I've been thinking about buying and it's called an HTC YC A300 Multifunction audio cable. You can find it on Amazon.com
Any experience, creative ideas, development or anything of that sort that would help me out would be great as I'm sure other people would be able to benefit from the info as well!
Thanks in advance...
I haven't done it, but there is a microphone input in the headphone jack -- it's intended to support a wired headset. With the right cable you should be able to use an external mic.
The app Tape Machine records uncompressed wav files. Even with the internal microphone, it actually makes very decent recordings.
Thanks for the reply guys.
Do you think trying a Sony ECM DS30P might work? it's a direct connection compressor microphone.
I will definitely check out Tape machine. I've got the lite version now and i'm eager to try it now! Is it successful in loud environments?
Do you think trying a Sony ECM DS30P might work? it's a direct connection compressor microphone.
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It's better than the built in mic of the phone. Far, far from decent though.
Is it successful in loud environments?
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That completely depends on the quality of the microphone, and how sensitive it is.
Well, I just bought myself one of those nifty little Sony compressor mics and I'm going to see how that works out. I may need a convertor to go in to the headphone jack so it recognizes the input, but I'm not sure.
Another way you could go possibly would be to us one of those multifunction cable things. The model is called: HTC P6300 Multifunction Audio Cable YC A200. There's also a YC A300 as well but I'm not sure of the difference between the two is besides the size.
Any new findings?
sitlet said:
It's better than the built in mic of the phone. Far, far from decent though.
That completely depends on the quality of the microphone, and how sensitive it is.
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So i got that sony mic and a convertor so the phone thinks i'm using a headset...and with some apps, with the convertor it works and some, without, it works too. The only issue i'm having is that the internal mic is still on and working while recording. I want the external mic that I'm plugging in to be the ONLY mic it's using and I'd like to control the input volume.
Any insight as to how we could do that?
I have been looking for a solution to this for over a year. It really sucks that everything else about the device is great except this one feature. As for the iPhone, it sounds like Apple has utilized some kind of filter to reduce the bass the phone records (in my experience, the bass is what causes the distortion in the recording).
If Apple can do it, why can't HTC? :?
I was going to buy the Galaxy SIII when it came out, but it turns out that it has a ****ty microphone in terms of recording audio, especially at concerts...compared, to say, the iPhone 4S.
This phone seems promising, but I'm yet to find ANYTHING online in regards to the same issue. Does anybody know what the quality of the audio recording is like when recording loud music, preferably at a concert?
Thanks!
I'll do a test and upload it on youtube and let you know!
Two test done:
Internal Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBLs2AAjoB4
Headphone Mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuQpVPv9yz0
BTW: From my basic test, it means that the video recording is taking the mic pluged in the jack when there's one. So, it means that you can use an adaptor and plug in a better mic.
I have done several tests with my old Galaxy S here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815074&highlight=microphone
Everything should apply with the LGOG.
I'll test an external mic this weekend, if I can find my adaptor... :|
Awesome, thanks man! Appreciate it .
Forgot to test with an external mic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUcZYjBOJ7o
This is done with the adapter for a portable DVD, which splits the TRRS into 3 seperate RCA, then used an RCA to 1/4 jack, then microphone.
An adaptor could be made, I most likely will do it during the christmas season and provide a guide!
Perfect! I think I'm finally gonna buy the phone.
So I have this h2 zoom and I was wondering if there is any way of connecting it to my galaxy to record things with the stock video player. Is there some way to connect it through the headphone jack or maybe even usb? Usb would be preferable but I realize the stock camera has its limitations when it comes to external audio.
here is an audo only thing but i want video
http://betanews.com/2012/12/22/now-you-can-record-to-your-android-device-via-usb-audio-interface/
would this work? (see bottom post)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493170
there is also this
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/19368/how-do-i-use-an-external-microphone-with-my-galaxy-nexus
Today i have made some progress in this question. On iPhone you can buy a iRig Mic which can do the job (and it should work on android too). But since i want to use another external microphone i have decided to make the adapter myself from some different adapters (which does the same thing as iRig Mic, but with a female 3.5 mm jack output, so i can use my wireless microphone with it)
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let me know if you have any experience with this stuff.
So I've gone to several concerts with my Samsung Galaxy S3 and I've noticed... Every single video recording with the stock app is absolutely terribad. The video portion is okay (Great for a smartphone) but the audio is absolutely horrendous. I've lately been wanting to find an external microphone that could possibly connect via the 3.5mm jack and serve as the primary mic for picking up sound.
I've scoured the Interwebs for little success on a good external mic that fit my needs. Here are my findings - correct me if I'm wrong in an area:
1. The mic, in order to be recognized by the SGS3 as a mic, needs to have an impedance of over 1000 omegas and has a TRRS 3.5mm jack.
2. There are actually very few compatible mics that would work with the SGS3. One example is the Edutige ESM 01O, which is overpriced and the specs and reviews do not show that it's a good live music recorder.
3. All other vaguely compatible mics are also not good at recording live music, especially bass heavy music (Which is what I frequent). The compatible lavalier mic I found is not what I need.
4. I actually found a mic that is designed for recording live music - the Edutige EIM-004 - BUT it's not compatible with the SGS3, to my dismay. It also costs $80.
So here's my problem - I need a good external microphone that's compatible with my SGS3 that is capable of recording live music with little distortion. Preferably, I'd like a low cost (Ballpark of $20-$50)I've already got the software covered, there are a few apps that I've looked up that fit my needs.
Here's my phone specs:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747 running Cyanogen Mod 10.0.0
I'd really appreciate any help. Posting here is probably the last thing I can try, considering how there's almost nothing out there to help me resolve my situation. Thanks guys.
I really need an answer, guys. Above & Beyond is coming to town in a few days and I'd really like to record them with my SGS3.
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I really need an answer, guys. Above & Beyond is coming to town in a few days and I'd really like to record them with my SGS3.
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I'm also interested. :good:
I'm still looking for a solution myself as I also do concerts recording with my S3. The audio recording sounds much better when you aren't as close up to the speakers. I know it would also help if we could block some of the sound coming in. Like ear plugs to block some of the dB.
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I'm still looking for a solution myself as I also do concerts recording with my S3. The audio recording sounds much better when you aren't as close up to the speakers. I know it would also help if we could block some of the sound coming in. Like ear plugs to block some of the dB.
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I've heard of a few apps that reduced the mic's gain and applied a few filters to clean up the sound, but I don't know how much the sound quality improves.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?partnumber=390-810
Here's a calibration mic might work.
I like this mic, David. The only problem is the impedance. The mic is 200 ohms but the SGS3 needs a mic of at least 1000 ohms in order for the mic to be recognized as a mic. Otherwise it'll only be recognized as a headset.
For concert recording try the negative mic gain in Boeffla kernel.
I9300XXEMD3, Boeffla 2.12, Earsonics SM3v2
i know this isnt going to help much, but i simply cover the mic's slightly with my hands. when i have my phone in the air recording something, phone horizontal, i place my hands in front of the mic holes, so it only records sound from behind my hands. this helps ALOT.
and what do you know...i'm also an A&B fan. recorded last weekend with the above trick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q11VCIyLB3g
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i know this isnt going to help much, but i simply cover the mic's slightly with my hands. when i have my phone in the air recording something, phone horizontal, i place my hands in front of the mic holes, so it only records sound from behind my hands. this helps ALOT.
and what do you know...i'm also an A&B fan. recorded last weekend with the above trick:
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Nice! Hope you had a good time at the show haha. I think this is going to be my temporary fix to the problem (Considering how A&B is coming to town tomorrow I've lost all hope of finding a mic in time), but I'll still need a solution for when I go to Ultra... Because their Funktion One systems are definitely too powerful for this fix.
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So I've gone to several concerts with my Samsung Galaxy S3 and I've noticed... Every single video recording with the stock app is absolutely terribad. The video portion is okay (Great for a smartphone) but the audio is absolutely horrendous. I've lately been wanting to find an external microphone that could possibly connect via the 3.5mm jack and serve as the primary mic for picking up sound.
I've scoured the Interwebs for little success on a good external mic that fit my needs. Here are my findings - correct me if I'm wrong in an area:
1. The mic, in order to be recognized by the SGS3 as a mic, needs to have an impedance of over 1000 omegas and has a TRRS 3.5mm jack.
2. There are actually very few compatible mics that would work with the SGS3. One example is the Edutige ESM 01O, which is overpriced and the specs and reviews do not show that it's a good live music recorder.
3. All other vaguely compatible mics are also not good at recording live music, especially bass heavy music (Which is what I frequent). The compatible lavalier mic I found is not what I need.
4. I actually found a mic that is designed for recording live music - the Edutige EIM-004 - BUT it's not compatible with the SGS3, to my dismay. It also costs $80.
So here's my problem - I need a good external microphone that's compatible with my SGS3 that is capable of recording live music with little distortion. Preferably, I'd like a low cost (Ballpark of $20-$50)I've already got the software covered, there are a few apps that I've looked up that fit my needs.
Here's my phone specs:
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIII i747 running Cyanogen Mod 10.0.0
I'd really appreciate any help. Posting here is probably the last thing I can try, considering how there's almost nothing out there to help me resolve my situation. Thanks guys.
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A quick answer for yah Mecronmancer.
- otg usb cable (couple of bucks)
- Digital to Analogue converter with USB (Appr $30) Behringer UCA222 is what I have.
- USB recording app...USB Audio Record or Audio Evolution. Both apps from Same guys.
- Microphone or analogue stereo inputs (Sky is the limit here)
- a rom that supports this arrangement. My i747m S3 with Stock ICS 4.0.4 works flawlessly with this arrangement.
You will get 16bit, 44.1k Stereo recording quality. Will it record while another app is recording Video? That I don't know. Thiis may be your one caveat. I might give it a shot sometime this week and report back.
UPDATE:
I simultaneously recorded USB Audio with the USB audio app and Video+mic audio with the built in ICS video app successfully. So if it was me, I would combine the 2 source recordings using a PC app and have HQ audio with Video. You just need to time align the 2 in sync very easily since you would have lofi mic audio and hifi usb audio sources.
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- Digital to Analogue converter with USB (Appr $30) Behringer UCA222 is what I have.
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What is the power source for the ADC?
Can anyone comment on the audio quality recording stereo to a phone with this setup?
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What is the power source for the ADC?
Can anyone comment on the audio quality recording stereo to a phone with this setup?
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The UCA222 can be powered from your Smart Phone, in my case, the SGS3. I had to buy a female-A-USB-to-Male-micro USB plug. They are inexpensive. I can't remember if this cable had to be an OTA version. (On The Go)
In my car, if my memory serves me well, I had the USB split with one end going to the SGS3 and the other into my USB cigarette lighter charger. I didn't end up using it in my car because it didn't interact well with the phone call audio stream etc. Lots of glitching.
RE-Recording Sound Quality
Unless your a professional audiophile or sound engineer with impeccable trained ears, the recording quality is flawless and blows away what I could do without it. An app like Audio Evolution Mobile is a great combo, especially if you have a larger and fast tablet.
Ok so it doesn't get power from the phone and it has no batteries. Darn. ..I was hoping it could be a handy mobile recorder.
A splitter usb + battery supply is borderline too cumbersome.
Price is great though -- I might tinker with it as a means to dub vinyl to files.
Does anyone make a $30 adc that includes a phono preamp? Lol.
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Ok so it doesn't get power from the phone and it has no batteries. Darn. ..I was hoping it could be a handy mobile recorder.
A splitter usb + battery supply is borderline too cumbersome.
Price is great though -- I might tinker with it as a means to dub vinyl to files.
Does anyone make a $30 adc that includes a phono preamp? Lol.
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You miss read.
YES...it CAN definitely be powered from the smartphone.
Read my reply post again.
I didn't think phones were capable if supplying usb power so when you wrote about the OTG cable *and* the splitter with power I assumed you needed both.
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I didn't think phones were capable if supplying usb power so when you wrote about the OTG cable *and* the splitter with power I assumed you needed both.
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No problem. It's a very small investment for what it can offer.
Hi!
I bought a selfie stick about a week ago and I'm having a problem with it. I bought the one that has a jack because I don't have to charge the stick and because i don't waste battery of the phone, but the problem is that when I try to record video with the camera app or with Snapchat, the phone catches the audio from the jack, so the video doesn't have audio. Does the phone have any option to make it record the audio from the phone microphone?
Thanks is advanced ^^