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Well I was thinking about getting this Sony Smartwatch for use with the Galaxy Note (International version).
Any tips/suggestions to if it is good or not?
Also does the watch itself have a speaker? (either for the hour beeps or just playing music.)
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depends on what you plan to do with it. the sony smartwatch MN2 isnt too bad. it has a lot of features i'd probably use. the only thing i didnt like about it is that it cant do much of anything unless it is bluetooth sync'd to a phone. heck, the clock function wont even work unless its sync'd to a phone, which seems kinda pathetic to me for a device that has 'watch' in its name. just for that reason alone, i'd probably choose a pebble or motoactv.
The watch actualy keeps time even if/after bluetooth disconnected. It just needs an initial sync to give it the right time in the first place.
Use search or look further down this exact forum to see a longer thread about this watch.
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Thats good to know because its definitely not true of the LiveView and the main thing that stops me from using it on a day to day basis.
have ordered Sony SmartWatch, will get it in some days, anyone using it with note please share your experience and any tips. Also if there is any other thread with more info please provide link.
npras42 said:
Thats good to know because its definitely not true of the LiveView and the main thing that stops me from using it on a day to day basis.
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My Liveview keeps time ok when it loses connection
anyone try these two together? impressions? thanks.
GNEX and Sony Smartwatch
ran495 said:
anyone try these two together? impressions? thanks.
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So-so at best. It seemed to run better when running KANG but I flashed Codename Android last night and I can't even get the software to load on the phone, so it does not see the watch.
The problems I had before were with disconnects and reconnects. Sometimes it would be fine for hours, other times my wrist would be vibrating all the time and it came up and down. I think it's the watch, not the phone. (at least until the new ROM) I'm hopping my pebble will be better when it comes
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cool i gues ill wait for that too
I just bought one yesterday night. I'm using ParanoidAndroid 2.1 ROM on my phone. Everything's working fine as intended, only complains are the slightly inferior software used by Sony itself. No disconnections, fair enough.
but if you had a choice between this and the pebble watch?
I'm fine with either one but Pebble isn't readily available.
I have no connection issues with my gnex running jellybean and my motoactv. Other smart watched should work just as well.
It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.
mzimmer88 said:
It wasn't the battery life that put the nail in the coffin. It's 4-5 daily disconnects or phantom disconnects from my Nexus 5. What good is this thing if all it does is tell time? I have another watch that can do that.
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Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
Phlip00ws6 said:
Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Misery loves company, I suppose.... That may explain why Motorola support was hardly helpful.
Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.
interested.
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
mzimmer88 said:
Since Motorola said they would take their sweet time in getting back to me about my issue, I decided to put Android L on my Nexus 5 to see if that helps the situation. If anyone's interested, I will post my results over the next few days.
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Lol you guys think that's bad? You can just cycle bluetooth and it reconnects right?
I'm using the 360 with an ancient GS2 with CM-11 on it, and my bluetooth module is dying or something because it will disconnect the watch > then turn off bluetooth > and only way to re-enable is to restart the GS2 lol
My watch is more powerful than my phone... no update will fix that!
OrionNE said:
interested.
I have been holding off on Android L only cause everything I want works on my phone.
Well except Moto 360 disconnects.
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20 minutes in and so far so good. Ha!
I will let more time go by before I do a real update. Off the bat, the difference I noticed is that the status bar just says "connected," rather than "connected, running sync loop." Not sure if that means anything.
I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.
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Same issues here, but it happens with all Android Wear devices. Hoping for a solution/update soon : \
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Don't experience disconnect on my g watch unless I wander away from my phone.
Crazypinoy9 said:
I've only had one disconnect since I got the watch on Monday. it's been great so far. using it with a G3. Tried it with my M8 and no problems.
But hopefully there will be some sort of update for those that are having constant issues.
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ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...
Hour 4, minute 9. No disconnects to be reported. An uneasy calmness fills the air.
I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.
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I had about five disconnects a day with my Note 3. I returned the 360 after a week for many reasons. I just picked up a Gear 2, and it's such a better smartwatch. I have a "That's so cool" moment several times a day, where as I didn't have many of those on the 360. Rock solid connection too. Tizen surprisingly works great. The only thing I miss a little is Google Now.
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Sadly, I just returned my moto 360 today. I got constant disconnects on Bluetooth as well, but that actually didn't bother me. For me, it was the battery life. I got tired of charging it once in the middle of the day, everyday.
Also, I think Android wear is just not up to par yet...
My last watch was the Gear 2, & I agree that it's a much better watch and much better operating system. I got spoiled by 3 to 4 days worth of battery life and a beautiful screen- it just happens to be square... Also, the IR blaster is just too damn cool and useful!
I liked the round watch so much, that my next SmartWatch will probably be the LG G watch R. I'm hoping that they learn a lesson from Motorola and fix some of the problems that the moto 360 had. I'm also hoping that it is easier to modify and we can have a better experience with Android wear. I think I'm going to stick with Android Wear- after all, I remember the Android operating system was pretty bad when it first came out too...
Lastly, I just think it's ridiculous to have a watch that has the display turned off most of the time. I know someday in the future (soon) we will look back and laugh at the fact that smart watches had to sit there with the screens turned off most the time!
moto x here. no disconnects.
S5 here and no disconnects either.
I have an N5 and have experienced none of the behavior mentioned by OP. Watch stays connected unless I get out of range and reconnects smoothly when I come back within range.
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moto x here. no disconnects.
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Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.
I have a Moto X, had a LG G watch for a week and now a moto 360 for a few days, haven't seen a single disconnect with either one.
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Do you have an app that notifies you when the connection is lost? If not, you may not even notice when it disconnects. I had an app that alerted me when my phone was out of Bluetooth range. Or when BT was dropped in this case.
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the watch has an icon it displays when it is not connected. the only time i see that icon is when i disconnect it.
maybe a replacement instead of a return?
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ive not had disconnect issues on my g3 either...
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Only disconnected once over 5 days (other than testing how far I could go before it would, and it's at least 4 walls away), using Moto X. Maybe just your watch is the issue, and try a replacement before a return?
Hello experts,
Since didn't find any information I'm wondering if there is any app able to be used as sleep tracker on SWR50?
Thanks a lot
Enrico
You can try "Sleep as Android".
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You can try "Sleep as Android".
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Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?
I really dont understand why Google and Sony made from us alpha testers of their system and watches.... Why is it possible that wristbands like MiBand can track sleep and walks for 30days with 10times smaller battery??? Technology is invented and as 15USD MBand shows - very cheap!
Google with actual version of Android Wear is on good way to kill this kind of watches.... Almost no SMS support, no email support, no calendar support, sleep and walk tracking almost unusable...)
If a smartwatch doesn't do what you don't buy one.Buy a fitness band.right now smart watches are just an extension of your phones
Unfortunatelly, nowadays are wear watches very bad phone extension. No way to see sms, email, calendar events, This must be essential part of system. No way to see weather, when IWANT to see weather. It is really crazy when google shows me weather almost every day around midnight, when I am in bed and it is impossible to block it.
Do you want to see older notification - no way. Do you want to edit notification (length and number of vibration) - no way... etc etc.
And Sony SW3 are sport watches, so tracking is essential part of their usage....
I get all the the notification from yahoo mail and gmail. I receive and reply to my wifes text messages without ever having to pick up my n6.And I can listen to music without my phone.
I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.
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I've sent mine back, I am very unimpressed by it. I have a z3, lifelog isn't very good anyway, but this watch
doesn't sync properly with it, doesn't recognise sleep, and as stated, it is a very very cut down version of phone
facilities. You need to have your phone close to hand for the bluetooth to work, it's just a bit pointless at this
stage. Maybe in the future they will become more useful. Android Wear is very frustrating to use too. The battery
lost about 30 percent after a run in the watch, the only thing of interest was that it tracked my run without having
to ask it. A poor piece of technology, simply unecessary at this time.
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Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
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tu3218 said:
Unnecessary at this time for YOU. Plenty of us are loving this watch and android wear in general. I haven't had any of the of issues you stated. Maybe you should of done more research before buying the watch.
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Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
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I really hope, that Sony (and google) will release new version of wear OS much faster then new version of Android.... Because v 5.0 Lollipop was released more then year after 4.4 I am little bit afraid, because Google synchronized numbering of version od Android and Wear OS.
rzarecter said:
Unfortunately, I'm one of the people having troubles with the watch. I did research, hence I bought the watch. The problem is that sony doesn't mind telling lies to consumers to get you to buy. They tell you about features that will come to you months after release as if they are already available. Sleep tracking is mentioned on the feature list, so is step counting.
In my case, steps are about a thousand off comparing steps on the watch and steps logged on lifelog. Sleep logging is shown in lifelog, however, to date, it never worked on my M8+SW50 combo.
I accepted that that's how sony does things. I'll only start enjoying my watch 6-12 months from now. The Ps3, psvita, PlayStation app and Ps4 proved this.
We wait....
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If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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tu3218 said:
If you bought this watch with the mindset that it would be a fitbit kind of device, then imo you didn't do your research. Maybe Sony advertised extra features but with knowing how all wear devices have been in the last year, I didnt expect that much in that department since that's not there main area of focus Yes, android wear devices have the ability but it's certainly not their primary function. I would definitely suggest getting a fitbit. Trust me, I wish this watch had those extra fitness features down better but I didn't know buy this watch thinking it would excel in that department.
But the watch does do step counting. All android wear devices do it but they're not the most accurate. But again, that's not the main function of these watches.
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True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
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rzarecter said:
True, I also knew that the functions are not primary features. I hoped to buy an all in one product because once again, that is what sony led me to believe. I used Fitbit charge before, maybe that's why I'm disappointed at the inaccuracies etc.
This is just to inform people who are intending to buy the sw50 with similar thinking. They need to know that it's not a bad product, however, it doesn't excel in some features that are advertised.
If you want accurate fitness/sleep tracking performance, then go for products specifically designed for that.
Lesson learned .
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Exactly! I'm still waiting for an all in one as well. But I think the Sony watch does a decent job in doing it all. There's not one out there though that does it all prefect yet either. It's really either a smart watch with some fitness features or a fitness band that excels in step counting, etc but with no smartphone extension. Maybe with updates it'll get better. I think it's more a limitation of google fit software in lollipop in its algorithm in calculating steps rather than Sony.
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Same here, no any problems exept the same (steps are inaccurate, cards are uneditabe etc) and the sleep tracker never works, exept today, im bit sick so i slept like 18 hours barely moving at all (must sleep on my back so i can breath) and when i woke up and checked SW3, It said my daily sleeping goal was suceeded ! then i checked lifelog and there it was, 14:11 sleep last night ! not really accurate but something at least and it actually works, i dunno how it counts it sleeping or how it now decided to work but man it does something... i thing it has something to do with not moving much (but still some) at a certain period of time before it thinks you are sleeping...
freewing70 said:
Well, thanks for anwsering.
The developer - Petr - of Sleep as Android told me that SWR50 is not compatible - by now - with it:
"[...] sorry about that but currently we have so far most issues on SWR50. The recent firmware update broke sleep tracking. Currently we are trying to fix this with our SWR50 users.
Definitely, we will also post all updates to the link I mentioned earlier. First it looked like SWR50 does not support sensor batching which would never allow us to get under 40% battery consumption per night. Also it has an accelerometer bug - the sesor cannot be set to lower frequencies - which makes it ratehr 70-80%... but the recent updates shows sensor batching is actually allowed, but it is broken. So we will se if some update in the future will make it working. But now it seems we have a good chance to run without batching on the watch with the next version, but consumption will probably be high - around 70-80%.. where with other Wear devices we get to 15%".
Suggestions? Any other SLEEP TRACKING that works on SWR50?
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Can you please share the link Petr mentioned to you for Sleep as Android updates?
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Hmm. According to the release notes, this version of Sleep As Android made yesterday includes a fix for the Smartwatch 3. I'm not seeing it in the Play store yet, but I guess that's probably coming soon. I installed the apk to test it out and got some conflicting information. When I started sleep tracking the notification on the phone says "Sorry, SmartWatch 3 is not yet fully supported!", however, the chart in the app shows movement from the watch's accelerometer. Seems like it should work, but I guess I won't know for sure until tomorrow morning.
I'm trying asap and will let you know.
I even get the message about SWR50 (not fully suported): I think it is because of huge battery drain.
It seems to have worked perfectly. My only complaint is that the Lucid dreaming vibrations woke me up, but that is neither here nor there.
I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.
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I have tried Sleep as Android beta (mentioned in this forum) today and it is still unusable. Battery drain about 70 percent during 9 hours in bed is really awful. It is more then 200 times more then MiBand needs for the same. I am really afreaid that it is hardware bug of SW3 which will never be resolved.
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Oh. So I guess it's kind of subjective at this point. I consider it usable, I just have to put the watch on the charger a half hour before bed so I know it has enough charge for the night.
Hey guys, i've seen that nobody here talked about asteroid os, i've tried this today
anyone here have ever seen this alternative OS to android wear?
https://asteroidos.org/screenshots/
On the installation section it is available for our smartwatch 3, looks promising!
What you think about it?
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Hey guys, i've seen that nobody here talked about asteroid os, i've tried this today
anyone here have ever seen this alternative OS to android wear?
https://asteroidos.org/screenshots/
On the installation section it is available for our smartwatch 3, looks promising!
What you think about it?
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I´ve checked their web page. Other than open source and privacy, I don´t see what it brings to the table android wear doesn´t yet have, even if the watch doesn´t get updated to wear 2. I actually assume that you have to go with whatever this OS has built in rather than having all the possibilities of watch faces and apps on android wear.
I´m coming from a Pebble steel and a Pebble time steel, but owned a moto 360 briefly. While the Pebble had its own "playstore" and was fairly customizeable, I was still stuck with some of Pebble´s decisions (like when they decided the up button must call the health screen instead of what you wanted). I did like the android wear when I tried it (for about a month), but the 360 didn´t last me a full day, so this was a no go.
I´ve since ordered the Sony SW3 and hope it´ll work out to a day or two for a charge. I´m sure I´ll like it with wear, even if I should get stuck with the current build. And btw., having the watch connected to my phone running on my google account anyways, I don´t quite see the point of having a more privacy oriented OS for the watch.
But these are only my 2 cents. Any software development is good, and maybe it grows to be a viable alternative to android wear. Right now, I think it´s not for me.
Yea i agree with you, i'm happy with android wear for the moment
But it's good to see that some people is developing custom roms for smartwatches, hopefully in the future we will see something like CyanogenmodOs for our smartwatches
There's currently a very promising watch financed via crowd funding. It runs asteroid, has 4 days of battery life, AMOLED screen and even a camera!!!
Check it out and back this thing. 19 days left!!
https://fr.ulule.com/connect-watch/