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Heres my idea:
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Its was featured on 1800PocketPC earlier this week
A) what do you folks think of that concept ^
B) what would you do if you could design the HTC Touch Pro 3?
HERE IS MY YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THIS DESIGN
Wow... that looks like a genuinely decent replacement for the Rhodium. As far as the exterior hardware goes, I would definitely love something like that to replace the Rhodium! The milled aluminum/white ABS plastic body, combined with the rounded sides and sharp edges immediately make me think of one of the new MacBooks. If that existed right now and would get a WM7 upgrade, I would definitely consider purchasing it (as long as it isn't powered by a Qualcomm MSM7xxx)
haha, I should have added some specs shouldnt I?
If I had my way:
Windows Phone 7 Series
GSM & CDMA versions available
1GB RAM
16GB Storage (stupid WP7S wont support memory cards ¬_¬)
Snapdragon 1.5GhZ processor (at least)
4" AMOLED screen
High quality Stereo Speakers
Front 2 mp camera
Back 5 mp camera
(If I was going to do real photography, I would use a camera, not a cameraphone so I dont think anything larger than 5mp is really needed)
GPRS/HSDPA etc
WIFI/Bluetooth (no wimax, because seriously.. whos gonna need it?)
3.5mm Headphone jack
Dedicated camera button on the side (the on-screen one is annoying)
Also as an afterthought I would have removed the notification LEDs
and placed them internally near the top, so the HTC logo glows when you have a text / have wifi on / new message etc
wow, the very bottom two corner picture looks like a DS Lite..it was cool until I saw that
whatever the TP3 may be, I just want it to run WP7S better than any phone in the market when it releases, and available at T-Mobile w/ a price point like the HD2 release
I like your version of the TP3! Looks nice.
Scott
Make it the same size/weight as the Diamond (including slide out keyboard)
battery life the same as a Nokia 1100 (or perhaps a Ford Anglia)
1GB RAM plus built in 16GB storage
"N" internet speeds guaranteed
And a request, a Personal Microwave Generator to heat up the cups of coffee that go cold whilst playing.
mate
awesome design, we should send this to htc and maybe...just maybe....they might throw out whatever prototype tp3 they have and replace it with this one =) love the white body
just 3 points:
1) i take it on one corner will be the stylus housing?
2) perhaps a flash for the camera? i miss the "torch" function...which can actually be offset by lighting up your screen....but it's kinda nifty
3) kudos on the storage capacity spec of 16gb....or maybe we can bump this to 32
cheers
Robson said:
mate
awesome design, we should send this to htc and maybe...just maybe....they might throw out whatever prototype tp3 they have and replace it with this one =) love the white body
just 2 points:
1) i take it on one corner will be the stylus housing?
2) perhaps a flash for the camera? i miss the "torch" function...which can actually be offset by lighting up your screen....but it's kinda nifty
3) kudos on the storage capacity spec of 16gb....or maybe we can bump this to 32
cheers
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I am actually tempted to send this in to HTC...
lol I like how your 2 points became 3
my response:
1) there wouldnt be a stylus because lets face it Windows Phone 7 doesnt really need one and also it would be a capacitive screen anyway, so it would have to be some kinda funky stylus or a sausage
2) If they included a flash it would have to be a real decent one because ive never seen a cameraphone flash which has been any help
3) lol i dont want to push my luck
I would design it like that but with android since windows is pretty much dead...Or will be soon.
msn.debord said:
I would design it like that but with android since windows is pretty much dead...Or will be soon.
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wow, you obviously havent kept up to date with what Windows Phone 7 Series is then.....
What, no HDMI port?
hmm... i tried sending HTC an email about this, but every time it said there was an error with their messaging system..
ill try again tomorrow :/
no wm7. android or bust. wm7 is so restrictive, you dont want it.
Besides faster processor and more memory - A Track Ball!!!
Yeah that looks awesome!!
Something with the HD2's massive screen and 1GHz processor would be awesome. Plus a good/big hardware keyboard. I also hope there is a decent graphics chip, as that would really enhance performance.
I would be thrilled if there was an Android option too.. but judging by HD2/Supersonic it looks like Android may lag behind in release.
And yeah, trackball (or some sort of joystick/d-pad) is one of those excellent overlooked features (very grateful to have one on my Nexus One).
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no wm7. android or bust. wm7 is so restrictive, you dont want it.
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I completely agree. Not excited for wp7 and how its going the route the iphone went with the utter lack of customizability. Android would be sweet though.
**** android, pos os.
-_-
LOL
WM7 and 6.5 FTW.
^^lol im with you
WM 6.5 FTW
but being i came from an iphone idk how i feel about WP7 just yet
WM7, cool design (thx ), big and great hardware (1,5ghz+ CPU, 512+MBRam, 16GB Storage) and a long battery and i would love to own it
cris_rowlands said:
Heres my idea:
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Its was featured on 1800PocketPC earlier this week
A) what do you folks think of that concept ^
B) what would you do if you could design the HTC Touch Pro 3?
HERE IS MY YOUTUBE VIDEO OF THIS DESIGN
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I didn't know we were allowed to post pr0n in the forums, but whatever!
These renders do a great job of putting a visual form on the same fantasy that many of us here have had...an HD2 with just that extra few mm of thickness, and the mid-waist split that could only mean one thing; a dancepad for the thumbs (aka "hardware keyboard")
Well Cris, when HTC finally wizens up and decides to officially release this monster, we'll remember where the design first saw the light of day!
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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i disagree with point #5
i think the evo looks ok minus the circle buttons, the desire is freakin sexy
its NOT ...
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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0. Who cares about 4G, more importantly, WHO HAVE 4G right now?
1. Display is TFT (NOT better than AMOLED!). more than 4.0 inches, too large, you might as well carry a laptop instead of this.
2. Who cares about cameras in phones? get SE Satio 12 MP with xenon flash if you care about Cameras in phones
3. camera again? who cares? and the HD recording is rumoured for the Desire too.
4. ok, maybe thats a point for Evo
5. I disagree, this point is personal taste anyways, not better or worst
I don't think this will work on GSM phone, no, it won't work.
And I won't pick any phone without AMOLED screen at least (Samsung SUPER AMOLED is better though).
More megapixel camera is useless with that tiny sensor, believe me on this. It is better to have less megapixel under the same sensor size.
Samsung Galaxy S with its 4" SUPER AMOLED is quite ideal for me, but I don't like the software, the hardware (too rounded) and ... Samsung
I think, my feeling told me ... at the end of this year, there will be better phone from HTC with 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 4.3" AMOLED screen, 1080p HD recording.
Why? Because in June there will be iPhone 4G ... which should be better than current 3GS.
HTC is keeping its weapon to outdone that to stay on top.
Mark my dream ... eh, my words
gogol said:
I think, my feeling told me ... at the end of this year, there will be better phone from HTC with 1.5GHz Snapdragon, 4.3" AMOLED screen, 1080p HD recording.
Why? Because in June there will be iPhone 4G ... which should be better than current 3GS.
HTC is keeping its weapon to outdone that to stay on top.
Mark my dream ... eh, my words
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Has HTC ever release a superphone at the end of the year?
well~~~I won't choose EVO too many problem for now
It will be at least two kind of 4G chip and count less 4G ISP
We just need to get used to that fact that there will be so many Android devices coming out that.... By the time we purchase the next greatest device the next greatest device will be coming out to upstage what we just bought.
Just like computers were doing for many years. By the time I got a new graphics card/cpu installed and fired up my computer I would get on the net only to read that my new GPU/CPU was already old news...
I long since learned to enjoy what I just purchased and worry about a new gadget when I had the extra money to upgrade.
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
Wow, I was all set to preorder my desire today - then this pops up!
Anyone know if we're likely to see a UK release? I'm just about to email HTC to ask.
Not necessarily end of the year to be honest ... It could be the same day with iPhone 4G
That would be awesome day!
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Has HTC ever release a superphone at the end of the year?
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Well, I got a (pretty unhelpful) reply from HTC about a UK release of the Supersonic.
Dear Paul
Thank you for contacting us.
At the moment we won't comment on future products releases before an official statement but we suggest to follow us on our social networks (Facebook, Twitter) or consult periodically our website for the latest news on our products.
Please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Best regards,
Pedro S.
HTC
wow
This is the device I want. I am torn now between the Desire and Evo. Worst thing that could happen is I order the desire and next month the evo gets a UK release......
You won't be seeing a european release of this for quite a while
Sprint getting it summer 2010 - and it's a CDMA device.. So no GSM for us..
HTC Desire also seems to be more of the focus for europe - Evo is more focusing on new network technology. Hense 4G .
I'd go for the HTC Desire - even if this does come to europe - it'll be 9-12 months before it does.
HDMI out? I struggle to see the point
To anyone outside the US Complaining:
THE EVO IS COMPLETLY USELESS FOR YOU!
WiMax will not be deployed in (most) European Countrys
The evo does not support GSM, CDMA is used nowhere in Europe or the rest of the world execpt US!
I would like to have Desire a lot actually. I see all the benefits but actually the only thing that i have doubts now, is the fact that it took them 4g phone to introduce front facing camera on the android.
yeah, i understand why you might think why would i need front facing camera, but i would like the possibility to use for skype, fring, free video call.
720p - well, its not real concern, because its more of a an extra feature than necessity.
8mp camera with 2 lights --- also if you take photos with your phone it still wont be the quality of dsrl camera.
i think the screen is too big for everyday use, of course there are benefits of using extra screen size, but then again you use a netbook for that, then normal laptop... then tv and finally imax experiance
4g is also a nice feature but its still has a bit to go, about 2 years before its full implemented, so by that time new-better phones will be out.
the rest is been said already.
To be honest I think the Evo looks a bit fat compared to the HD2 which I currently own. I have a Desire on Preorder and having owned a 4.3" device I'm happy to scale down my screen size for screen quality. Think of it like a tv - would you swap your Samsung 42" LED tv for a 46" LCD of similar general spec? I know I wouldn't. Browsing will be splendid on the Desire.
Supposedly 720p DivX and video recording will be on the Desire at launch or thereafter. Not so bothered about the video recording side but im sure if the Evo can play Divx up to 720p someone will find how to enable it on other snapdragon based Android devices in no time.
HDMI out is of no interest to me whatsoever and will no doubt necessitate a 30 dollar cable.
Better camera? HTC cameras are all crap anyway; i'd happily keep a 5mp christmas cracker lens and have the option of a decent loudspeaker like Nokia and iPhone 3g owners get.
shaneaus said:
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
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Coming from a fellow Texan...I couldn't agree with you more! They completely FAILED big time with the Backflip and Dell Aero (or whatever that P.O.S. is called).
2 more days of CTIA and I am keeping my fingers crossed that something is mentioned about the Desire & AT&T
shaneaus said:
We just need to get used to that fact that there will be so many Android devices coming out that.... By the time we purchase the next greatest device the next greatest device will be coming out to upstage what we just bought.
Just like computers were doing for many years. By the time I got a new graphics card/cpu installed and fired up my computer I would get on the net only to read that my new GPU/CPU was already old news...
I long since learned to enjoy what I just purchased and worry about a new gadget when I had the extra money to upgrade.
I'm just happy that we now have options. I just wish US ATT would get off it's app and release a great Android device!
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Totally agree here, tech is never gonna stop. We can't get us up2date stuff,
by the time we get what we DESIRE most, there will be another mouth-watering thing in news...
So best option as my friend says above is LEARN TO ENJOY WHAT U HAVE GOT NOW...plus (my suggestion)... start saving 4 next
wish list.
I think the EVO is ugly.
There is no point in more than 1 megapixel camera for most people. The latest phones have less than 1million pixel screens and even average computer screens only just exceed a million pixels. How many of your phone photos have you printed? Also phones are still using CMOS sensors and the point above about a lower resolution being better is correct. It means less red and blue sensor noise in the images when displayed on a larger screen such as on your PC. This is caused by the sensor over amplifying due to the tiny amount of light coming in through the tiny aperture.
There is no GSM support so no sim card. When you have finished with the phone it is a door stop!
There is one area with experimental 4g in the UK (Just outside Slough) and they switch it off when they are not testing it. We will NOT see 4g until some bandwidth becomes available, this will happen when the terrestrial TV signal swiches off freeing up 800MHz. This wont happen until around your next upgrade anyway (2012) and by then there will be even better 4g devices to choose from.
Also in the video of the EVO the cammera is demonstrated, frankly, it sucks, there is a light sorce in the back ground (Probably a window) and it whites out completely, so much show I am not 100% sure that the light sorce is a window as you cant see a thing, this happenes on both the still shot and the video. The desire most definately does support 800x480 video which, believe it or not, constitutes HD (anything with more than 425 lines is defined as HD)
Capasitive buttons are not good IMHO.
4+ inch screen are just too big, I have played with the HD2 and is is just too big in your pocket!
And seriously, think about it, when are you going to use an HDMI output, I have a PC and Blu-Ray at home and I cant see too many esablishment letting me plug my phone into their HDTV, I can't even imagine my friends would be over the moon about me turning up with my new phone and insisting on connecting it to the back of their telly either, it seems pointless, something you would try out, think it was cool and then never use ever again.
Dont loose any sleep over this phone, 4g is it's only +point and we have no network for some time to come!
With regard to the 8 MP camera: I wonder all the time whether the Desire will have the same camera chip as the HD2? In the tweaks threads on the HD2 it is said that the HD2 camera by means of just the software has been limited to 5 MP, but that it is an 8 MP chip. In order to achieve cost reduction by great numbers, HTC might build the same camera chip into all models - HD2, Desire, N1, Evo - and only the Evo is heralded to have an 8 MP camera?
The similar question applies to the WiFi functionality, where the HD2 also has 802.11n (not b/g only).
In the end, the difference between Desire and Evo appears to be limited to the (currently use- and senseless, to my opinion) 4G capability plus the HDMI out plus the HD2-like size of the Evo. Not reason to feel sorry for the Desire, really.
AaronJoYee said:
Dear friends,
I am upset! HTC claimed that the HTC Desire is their "superphone"/flagship phone but suddenly there is a much better phone released EVEN BEFORE the Desire was officially launched! Could someone educate me on how it this possible?
Why better?
1. Larger display
2. Better camera when it comes to the megapixels
3. HD 720p video recording
4. HDMI out!
5. Looks 100x better than the Desire
I have a question. Could this 4G phone be used in other countries as well or just the US? This is not the same as a GSM phone?
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1. That is one of the reasons I am leaving the HD2: 4.3 inch is to big. After a few months of using I found out that 4.3 inch is nice, but it is not necessary. I rather have a 3.7 - 4.0 inch screen that I can much better use with one hand, while still having almost the same experience I have with my 4.3 inch screen.
2. Yes, indeed that is true. Not a huge problem though, the 5 mp camera's on the Desire/HD2/Nexus One make good pictures and decent video's for my needs.
3. I really do not care about that, at all! And it was rumored that it would come to the Desire as well.
4. Again, I do not care about that.
5. I don't know about that. It looks kind of big, and it is not as 'curved' as the Desire. IMO they both look just as nice, but they both have different styles.
I myself thought for a second if the EVO 4G was not a better choice, but quickly knew the answer to that. For me, the Desire is still on top. I think the 3.7 inch (AMOLED btw, much nicer) will suite me better. And the EVO does not really offer anything else that I really need.
And I live in Europe. So that means case closed, as the EVO 4G is meant for Sprint in the US.
so seriously how long was the one x htc flagships phone for, they seem to be bringing out bigger and better all the time!
one x+
this new htc j
im not overly impressed i thought me one x was gunna be flagship for a while yet, why not make what u have better rather than replacing,,
cnuts
It's still the flagship
the J is not out anywhere but Japan and the One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software
but no lets all hug and cry
"One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software"
this is my problem get it right first time!! and u dnt need to "refresh" f all
hold me
dan281082 said:
"One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software"
this is my problem get it right first time!! and u dnt need to "refresh" f all
hold me
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think of it this way if ur willing to pay more and get a 64GB version you will get few extras with it
its a smartphone company, its all they do, unlike apple, samsung, sony, google and the rest of the damn world
believe me when i tell you Tegra 3 is already at the maximum of its architectural limit, 1500 or 1700mhz will not make a different, as for the GPU if you are are rooted we have unlocked it long ago
yesterday we OC test GPU OC beyond 520mhz and got no benefits, the chip is already bottle-necked by it's bandwith
HTC is following two line, Tegra and Snapdragon
it terms of Tegra the next flagship will be the Tegra 4
Still feels like a flagship phone to me, i still have a great sense of satisfaction when i hold/use the phone and the smoothness of JB and the quality of the screen even after owning it for 6 months! Also how everything has come along with the UI since original release. This is still the flagship!!!!
hamdir said:
It's still the flagship
the J is not out anywhere but Japan and the One X+ is just a tiny refresh of the same damn thing with the same damn software
but no lets all hug and cry
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I have to disagree hamdir...
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS . There is a new chip in town.
Its a huge refresh for me, (emphasis on me) who is using the phone as his primary navigation device. (daily about 1 hour) Sometimes more on long runs/drives.
GLONASS on it could do me wonders.
GPS is good but could be better I already owned a hybrid GPS and GLONASS device and it was better.
Having the money I would do the switch . Again emphasis on the I.
PAGOT said:
I have to disagree hamdir...
GPS Yes, with A-GPS support and GLONASS . There is a new chip in town.
Its a huge refresh for me, (emphasis on me) who is using the phone as his primary navigation device. (daily about 1 hour) Sometimes more on long runs/drives.
GLONASS on it could do me wonders.
GPS is good but could be better I already owned a hybrid GPS and GLONASS device and it was better.
Having the money I would do the switch . Again emphasis on the I.
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and did you not know it missed GLONASS and AGPS when you bought it?
hence it's a tiny refresh, the basic design, software and main features did not change, only improved slightly, not is denying its improved but it certainly does not replace
for many people its not even worth the extra cost (if they are buying the One X right now)
@ Hamdir;The J Butterfly might get a Verizon release in the US.
I still consider the HOX a flagship handset (For android anyway, not thinking about the new Windows handsets here), the One X+ has such minute 'upgrades' that it's laughable, it's only been tweaked a little bit and as Hmadir said the J Butterfly is atm a Japan only release until Verizon possibly get it for the US.
The-Last-Hylian said:
@ Hamdir;The J Butterfly might get a Verizon release in the US.
I still consider the HOX a flagship handset (For android anyway, not thinking about the new Windows handsets here), the One X+ has such minute 'upgrades' that it's laughable, it's only been tweaked a little bit and as Hmadir said the J Butterfly is atm a Japan only release until Verizon possibly get it for the US.
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we will know if it comes on the 29th as a Google Nexus and even if it did, it doesn't replace HTC's flagship
There is internal discussion at HTC about the so many phone release its true, seems like they are split in two camps, but all i'm saying the current One X was not suddenly rendered "outdated" it still has the qualities of the flagship and still getting both firmware and app support as we go, its not HTC's fault if you can't resist the urge of having the "latest and greatest"
If they suddenly released the One 2X, with SLCD3 Tegra4 and 13MB camera after 6 months of outing the One X, than yes i would be seriously pissed
HTC's flagship should have the best of all technology and new features, a new HTC sense, new Android, new design, a global release, a new SOC, a new screen to be considered a flaghsip, im pretty sure the J falls into this category (except Sense) but so far it doesn't seem HTC is willing to go global with it, if they do they will have to throw their entire stock of the just announced One X+
5 months I would say for the UK- what a joke.
Then HTC wonder why people think (and they think) they have no strategy except to react to the shinier phones.
To be honest it seems in Android land, 6 months is about the max any device remains 'flagship'.... Given mobile phone contracts are ever increasing in length (duration) to subsidise handsets, it's a bit of a gip when your new killer phone is usurped after such a short time.
Does it make your purchase any less affective, not really... But it is certainly a total buzz kill.
iOS users get 12 months.
Windows mobile users (excluding those who purchased the Nokia Lumia 900 in the US as Nokia came late to the windows phone 7 party) generally get 18 months.
BB users get at least 12 months (often 18) too.
So yeah, 6 months as King of the Hill isn't great (especially from the same manufacturer), and actually it's less than that if you factor in other manufacturers of Android devices who out pace each other incrementally.
hamdir said:
we will know if it comes on the 29th as a Google Nexus and even if it did, it doesn't replace HTC's flagship
This is true, if it was part of the Nexus range it won't impact upon HTC's flagship line
There is internal discussion at HTC about the so many phone release its true, seems like they are split in two camps, but all i'm saying the current One X was not suddenly rendered "outdated" it still has the qualities of the flagship and still getting both firmware and app support as we go, its not HTC's fault if you can't resist the urge of having the "latest and greatest"
I remember seeing a Press Release from HTC saying that in 2011 they diluted the market with too many handsets and that in 2012 they were only going to release a few, their 'latest & greatest'... so much for that plan!
If they suddenly released the One 2X, with SLCD3 Tegra4 and 13MB camera after 6 months of outing the One X, than yes i would be seriously pissed
Too right! Wouldn't we all be!
HTC's flagship should have the best of all technology and new features, a new HTC sense, new Android, new design, a global release, a new SOC, a new screen to be considered a flaghsip, im pretty the J falls into this category (except Sense) but so far it doesn't seem HTC is willing to go global with it, if they do they will have to throw their entire stock of the just announced One X+
That'd be a waste of good money and R&D time!
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As above
hamdir said:
and did you not know it missed GLONASS and AGPS when you bought it?
hence it's a tiny refresh, the basic design, software and main features did not change, only improved slightly, not is denying its improved but it certainly does not replace
for many people its not even worth the extra cost (if they are buying the One X right now)
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ofc I did know that.. You didn't??? Its not my first phone, and not my first android, or htc phone... I am a consumer that reads before he buys..Not by "Oh look its so cute, lets buy it".. Do not insult my intelligence.
I just wrote you I am using the navigation a lot, like 40 percent of the phone usage goes for that...
and I said for "me"
Btw I didn't say its a replacement or will kick out the One X from the throne. I just say, its not an tiny refresh . At least not for every consumer. You have to give me that.
hamdir said:
If they suddenly released the One 2X, with SLCD3 Tegra4 and 13MB camera after 6 months of outing the One X, than yes i would be seriously pissed
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Crazy talk. You should be happy that there is progress! And just wait patiently with open arms what the future brings us!
What you wrote under this comment makes more sense.
hamdir said:
HTC's flagship should have the best of all technology and new features, a new HTC sense, new Android, new design, a global release, a new SOC, a new screen to be considered a flaghsip, im pretty the J falls into this category (except Sense)
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Yes if they released an outdated device and called it a flagship you could be pissed.
This is what SONY was doing and maybe still is . Remember the first Xperia (I do ) overpriced piece of garbage, when phones had standard multitouch (hero, desire, nexus one and etc) this device more expensive then all, was and still is missing it.(software emulation my ass)
But then again, when you bought it, you could know it. (And there was other parts in SW that sucks bla bla to the OT)
fair enough about the tiny part, but we are discussing what is an HTC flagship to begin with
the One X, X+ and J are all flagships, ie: the upper end of the spec list of HTC's products, not to mention the most widely praised and respected by the media and gets their most attention
judging from my time in elevate, it does seem the situation is confusing, HTC itself do not have clear boundaries and everyone is asking them to define them
more over it seems their choice of SOC is also not a deep rooted decision, if i had to throw a wild guess, HTC only chose Tegra 3 because Qualcomm did not have a quad core ready and they had to counter the upcoming Quad SGS3
In fact the One X Tegra 3 seems much more important to Nvidia (they use its picture in every Tegra 3 occasion), than Tegra 3 is important to HTC (which for them its just another quad SOC)
They also wanted to open up to other SOC vendors just like Samsung does by releasing the same device on three different SOCs, which at the time seemed to give great commercial margins to Samsung
Everything the One X was, seemed a bid to counter Samsung, when in fact it had nothing to do with the values of samsung, in reality its more of an iPhone counter in terms of priorites (fancy build quality, refined UI and amazing screen)
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fair enough about the tiny part, but we are discussing what is an HTC flagship to begin with
the One X, X+ and J are all flagships, ie: the upper end of the spec list of HTC's products, not to mention the most widely praised and respected by the media and gets their most attention
judging from my time in elevate, it does seem the situation is confusing, HTC itself do not have clear boundaries and everyone is asking them to define them
more over it seems their choice of SOC is also not a deep rooted decision, if i had to throw a wild guess, HTC only chose Tegra 3 because Qualcomm did not have a quad core ready and they had to counter the upcoming Quad SGS3
In fact the One X Tegra 3 seems much more important to Nvidia (they use its picture in every Tegra 3 occasion), than Tegra 3 is important to HTC (which for them its just another quad SOC)
They also wanted to open up to other SOC vendors just like Samsung does by releasing the same device on three different SOCs, which at the time seemed to give great commercial margins to Samsung
Everything the One X was, seemed a bid to counter Samsung, when in fact it had nothing to do with the values of samsung, in reality its more of an iPhone counter in terms of priorites (fancy build quality, refined UI and amazing screen)
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It's understandable that HTC wanted to strike while the iron was hot, the HTC Sensation was a brilliant phone but was trounced by the Galaxy S2 in sales figures and reviews.
They didn't want the same thing to happen again with their new One range so they rushed it a little bit and put it out there imho. But nether the less, the Samsung Galaxy fanboys made sure that the S3 beat the HOX is sales figures and reviews when I don't believe it deserves to.
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It's understandable that HTC wanted to strike while the iron was hot, the HTC Sensation was a brilliant phone but was trounced by the Galaxy S2 in sales figures and reviews.
They didn't want the same thing to happen again with their new One range so they rushed it a little bit and put it out there imho. But nether the less, the Samsung Galaxy fanboys made sure that the S3 beat the HOX is sales figures and reviews when I don't believe it deserves to.
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I would forbid AMOLED ... seriously nothing that has the current generations of AMOLED or its monstrosity called Pentile Matrix cant be called a flagship, in no company... I mean to buy on such higher rate degrading display or the non existing quality. Am still laughing at ppl telling me that they also have 320PPI....
if htc sticks to IPS, or SLCD or the second gens etc, no way I would switch again back to Samsung ...
Btw I would go for the Evo 3D in the time of SGS2 ... That phone was cheap , fast, great display, heavy and big ... more like a weapon, but higher res and 1GB more as the Sensation.
As its now I think I am set for 1 or maybe even 2 years without requiring a new device. Which I couldnt say with the previous generations phones I had. Even though they were Flagships as well. Lets say SGS.
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It's understandable that HTC wanted to strike while the iron was hot, the HTC Sensation was a brilliant phone but was trounced by the Galaxy S2 in sales figures and reviews.
They didn't want the same thing to happen again with their new One range so they rushed it a little bit and put it out there imho. But nether the less, the Samsung Galaxy fanboys made sure that the S3 beat the HOX is sales figures and reviews when I don't believe it deserves to.
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yes its good u brought up the Sensation, the S2 was better than it to be honest except the build material, keeping in mind the SGS2 had true 1:1 pixel density, something i can't say about the SGS3 its in no way no how better than the One X
but the Sensation was supposed to be the flagship right?
For me one trip to the store was enough to tell me its not worth upgrading my Desire HD, the screen was actually worse it had a very bad refresh rate and ghosting, the initial sense 3.0 stayed insanely and horribly sluggish for over 8 months, build and design very similar and the camera almost the same, it was only the SOC which was much better but badly supported in the initial firmware
The Sensation did not shine until the ICS update was pushed, in fact the performance nearly doubled with the ICS update and then you could see what the Senation was all about
And like Pagot said, they polarized their fans with the dual Evo3d/Sensation release, but for me the Evo3d is the better deal, the best ever build device by HTC i'm still preplexed until today at how much it have costed them to build the thing, it was "shimmering" with fancy higher grade perfectly cut material in every corner, and the screen in 2D mode was massively better than the Sensation with 60hz refresh rate, when the Evo3d was being cleared out of stock pre the One X release, it literally sold like hot cakes in Lebanon, the main vendors couldn't keep up with the demand
and just as the Sensation example, Sensation XE did not replace it as a flagship, both were the flagship just the XE was the newer repackage
HTC will stick to IPS they have never been fans of Samsung or Amoled, especially after all the praise they got for the One X display, remember how they dropped Amoled by re-releasing the Desire with SLCD (i actually switch my phone to the SLCD version)
Not this crap again! Yes, stand still HTC. Don't refresh your devices and let the competition surpass you with superior specced products!
And then no doubt the masses will complain that HTC aren't innovating and their product lineup is stale! FFS!
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yes its good u brought up the Sensation, the S2 was better than it to be honest except the build material, keeping in mind the SGS2 had true 1:1 pixel density, something i can't say about the SGS3 its in no way no how better than the One X
Yeah that bugs me, people saying that the SGS3 has 'The best screen on the market' bar iPhone, it's definitely the One X!
but the Sensation was supposed to be the flagship right?
For me one trip to the store was enough to tell me its not worth upgrading my Desire HD, the screen was actually worse it had a very bad refresh rate and ghosting, the initial sense 3.0 stayed insanely and horribly sluggish for over 8 months, build and design very similar and the camera almost the same, it was only the SOC which was much better but badly supported in the initial firmware
The Sensation did not shine until the ICS update was pushed, in fact the performance nearly doubled with the ICS update and then you could see what the Senation was all about
And like Pagot said, they polarized their fans with the dual Evo3d/Sensation release, but for me the Evo3d is the better deal, the best ever build device by HTC i'm still preplexed until today at how much it have costed them to build the thing, it was "shimmering" with fancy higher grade perfectly cut material in every corner, and the screen in 2D mode was massively better than the Sensation with 60hz refresh rate, when the Evo3d was being cleared out of stock pre the One X release, it literally sold like hot cakes in Lebanon, the main vendors couldn't keep up with the demand
and just as the Sensation example, Sensation XE did not replace it as a flagship, both were the flagship just the XE was the newer repackage
Same goes for the Sensation XL, that was step down if ever there was one! Infact, all HTC adverts for a while and advertising in general toted the XL, so I'd say for a very brief few months the XL was their 'flagship' handset.
HTC will stick to IPS they have never been fans of Samsung or Amoled, remember how they dropped amoled by releasing the Desire with SLCD?
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I liked the Desire screen, it was bright and fresh, something to show to the iMoans squadron. I loved me Desire!
I guess it's what you upgraded to the Sensation from... if it was a Desire HD then it was a bit of a jump back until ICS FOTA, but as I came to Sensation from my old Desire, that was a big step up. Takes all kinds I guess...
Yes the ICS update really took the Sensation into a world of it's own! Never really got to play around with the Evo3D, I think the Sensation was released slightly ahead of it here in the UK, so I'd already nabbed my Sensation before the Evo3D was released. The screen had to have a 60hz refresh rate I'm assuming as it'd be halved when the 3D effect was on? So anything less than 30/25hz refresh rate would've made the thing look really choppy!
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I liked the Desire screen, it was bright and fresh, something to show to the iMoans squadron. I loved me Desire!
I guess it's what you upgraded to the Sensation from... if it was a Desire HD then it was a bit of a jump back until ICS FOTA, but as I came to Sensation from my old Desire, that was a big step up. Takes all kinds I guess...
Yes the ICS update really took the Sensation into a world of it's own! Never really got to play around with the Evo3D, I think the Sensation was released slightly ahead of it here in the UK, so I'd already nabbed my Sensation before the Evo3D was released. The screen had to have a 60hz refresh rate I'm assuming as it'd be halved when the 3D effect was on? So anything less than 30/25hz refresh rate would've made the thing look really choppy!
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yes ofcourse the Evo had to have 60hz for 3D but there was no excuse for less on the Sensation both the Desire HD and Desire had better screens in terms of refresh, in fact the Desire SLCD had the best screen in terms of all, view angles and black levels included
I only bought the Sensation much later for my wife for a very good price but she still wanted it replaced with the Sensation XL (and now she complains why temple run lags )
Although my nexus is only about 2 years old, in this day and age, it feels like it's getting outdated and old. I'm starting to get an itch to upgrade my GNex phone and wouldn't mind a few suggestions. My GNex is the first smartphone that I really started to use it as a information consumption device to browse the web, read articles and play games on. As such I've found I do spend a lot of time on it. The things that bother me most are as follows:
1. Poor battery life - even with the 2000mah samsung battery, this hardly gets me through a day without plugging it in somewhere (I don't like carrying extra batteries or a portable battery)
2. Speakers - hardly audible loudspeaker to watch any videos or youtube
3. Screen brightness - I'd say this is acceptable but not as good as it could be
4. Touchscreen responsiveness - not really jittery or lag as that was fixed with jelly bean, but the touchscreen does lag compared to an iphone. I'm not sure if that's just and android or a hardware issue
Things I do like about my Nexus
1. Stock android - for quick updates and no bloatware
2. Formfactor - I think the size is about right, I can do with a bit larger screen like the S4 but not as big as a samsung galaxy note. I want to still be able to put the phone in my back pocket.
Things that I don't really care for
1. Removable battery - I don't see myself ever taking another battery with me
2. Removable microSD card - My 16gb is fine, I never store large videos or files in my phone
3. Camera - Decent pictures are fine, I don't use the camera for anything other than posting or record photos...
4. Super high end build quality - Metal back, glass, anodized aluminum... it's nice but not necessary and doesn't really sway in my decisions
So for those of you who have used other phones, are you able to give some advice in comparison relative to the GNex. I was thinking of the samsung galaxy s4, but wasn't so sure how the battery life compares given it has a faster processor and bigger screen as well as how different the touchwiz is. The LG G2 looks promising too with the 3000mah battery, but I'm hearing mixed reviews with the software and weird button layout.
Any other suggestions on phones... I haven't looked at any of the sony line up or the HTC. If anyone has any first hand experience it would be great, especially from a GNex user.
I would hold out for the N5. I'm unfortunately on Verizon, and as of 2 weeks ago, not a single phone looks appealing to me. I wish my contract was up soon so I could get an N4 on T-MO for the time being. The HTC One is a very good phone also from what I've seen.
I might get chewed up with this comment but....
I too have been itching for an upgrade and I share similar grievances , however I've more or less made up my mind.
Likely candidate: iPhone 5S
I'm ready to jump onto the bandwagon. I've had android phones for as long as I can remember so it's definitely not bias. My reasons for choosing an iPhone over another android device are simple. I absolutely hate the build quality on most of the newer flagship android headsets...traditional plastic. Ever since the iPhone 4, apple has been paying a little more attention to build quality. Since I'm paying ~$700 on a headset anyways, I'll go for an arguably better build quality.
I don't care much for the fingerprint sensor but the new camera features are pretty nice such as 120fps @ 720p stopped down to 24 in post makes for a nice slow motion effect. I used to own a Canon 5D Mark III but had to depart from it for financial reasons and I really enjoyed photography while I owned it. I'd love to pursue that hobby again with the iPhones larger aperture and stabilization. Granted the image quality will be much more inferior to a professional DSLR, I'm sure I can get a good kick out of the improved camera.
Then, I own an iPad and I gotta say I fell in love with iOS 7's new UI design. Many critics call it confusing and childish but I think it's a right step away from leather and brushed steel textures as well as bubbly icons. As I've owned android headsets for a long time, iOS just seems like a welcomed change.
Lastly, I built my own Hackintosh last year after selling my MBP in pursuit of more processing power without the sacrifice of a limb for an apple workstation. As I run OSX on this PC, and having an iPad, my phone stands out as the odd one out. I'd like to reduce fragmentation amongst my devices.
I could care less for a 5" screen that android devices are pumping out, I don't care for the future hexa and octa core phones, and in all honestly...I'm done dealing with roots, custom ROMs and radios. No body forced me to do it sure, that's a valid point but being a college student, flashing is an addiction I can no longer fulfill. I just need something that works.
If you want to be shackled to the itunes then go for an iPhone 5S otherwise get the cheapest, value for money device the N5, which has an equivalent performance of the A7 plus the Nexus gives you a straight 2 updates insurance/ or whatever you may call, with the best dev community !
I'd be getting myself an N5, skipped the N4 for it !
iPhone 5s or N5, all the rest are inferior now, the N5 will have similar benchmarks to iPhone 5s , quad core, octocore means nothing if its not optimized an android chews the CPU an ram way more than iOS that's why apple doesn't need it, like you said roms an all that are pointless unless you have older device that Google has dropped from official updates, nothing beats latest official stock updates.
I still choose the N5 over the iPhone 5s though with its 13mp camera ect.
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If you want to be shackled to the itunes then go for an iPhone 5S otherwise get the cheapest, value for money device the N5, which has an equivalent performance of the A7 plus the Nexus gives you a straight 2 updates insurance/ or whatever you may call, with the best dev community !
I'd be getting myself an N5, skipped the N4 for it !
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Being "shackled" to iTunes is not exactly a life sentence. I don't see many drawbacks/differences than with android. Then, perhaps because I've been spoiled by the Nexus, but the 2 "guaranteed" updates me a nothing to me now...I don't get on-board with the hype trains that haunt said updates.
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iPhone 5s or N5, all the rest are inferior now, the N5 will have similar benchmarks to iPhone 5s , quad core, octocore means nothing if its not optimized an android chews the CPU an ram way more than iOS that's why apple doesn't need it, like you said roms an all that are pointless unless you have older device that Google has dropped from official updates, nothing beats latest official stock updates.
I still choose the N5 over the iPhone 5s though with its 13mp camera ect.
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Agreed with pretty much everything except the camera. Having more megapixels can be nice for cropping but the quality does not increase. Chances are you won't be sharing 13MP photos either. What matters most is the the sensor size, and at this time and age pretty much all mobile sensors are identical specially in low light sensitivity. Aperture is another important aspect when it comes to photography, and there really isn't much you can do with a mobile lens to actually call it a "revolutionary" improvement.
I'm waiting for the N5. It shouldn't be much longer. 2 months MAX.
I'd love to get the Note 3 but the N5 price will be hard to beat since I am on a prepaid plan.
N5 Man
I have to agree with most people so far and say to wait until the N5 will be released. There will be a ton of original dev on that device for sure.
Go with your heart.
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If I were on Verizon right now I would go with the LG G2 or the Droid Maxx. But I would wait for the Nexus 5 and see what that brings.
I got an HTC 10 a couple of days ago after my sister bought my nexus 6p from me, I got it thinking about getting a 2016 nexus once it gets released in Germany (usually a couplw of months after the US's release ) but now I'm thinking of keeping it.
Why is the phone so underrated? It feels noticeably faster that the Galaxy Note 7 for example and it looks way nicer than Samsung's new ui .
I still think the nexus 6p takes better pictures, but the HTC 10 runs circles on it when it comes to speed, the difference is very noticeably.
HTC can't really compete with companies like oneplus 3 I know this, but 700 euros is outrageous, with 500 they may have had a chance.
Why would anyone choose the HTC 10 instead of galaxy, which looks fancier and takes better pictures and costs the same?
Nevertheless in my opinion is the most balanced on the market right now, it didn't deserve to fail so bad.
I don't want HTC filing for bankruptcy, they build amazing , yes the 10 is on the too chunky side , but it feels sturdy.
What do you think ? Does HTC have a chance of making a comeback ?
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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.
Chad_Petree said:
I got an HTC 10 a couple of days ago after my sister bought my nexus 6p from me, I got it thinking about getting a 2016 nexus once it gets released in Germany (usually a couplw of months after the US's release ) but now I'm thinking of keeping it.
Why is the phone so underrated? It feels noticeably faster that the Galaxy Note 7 for example and it looks way nicer than Samsung's new ui .
I still think the nexus 6p takes better pictures, but the HTC 10 runs circles on it when it comes to speed, the difference is very noticeably.
HTC can't really compete with companies like oneplus 3 I know this, but 700 euros is outrageous, with 500 they may have had a chance.
Why would anyone choose the HTC 10 instead of galaxy, which looks fancier and takes better pictures and costs the same?
Nevertheless in my opinion is the most balanced on the market right now, it didn't deserve to fail so bad.
I don't want HTC filing for bankruptcy, they build amazing , yes the 10 is on the too chunky side , but it feels sturdy.
What do you think ? Does HTC have a chance of making a comeback ?
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I chose the 10 because of it's build quality, close-to-nexus feel, speed, camera, audio and more. In essence, I chose it because it was the best device that fits my needs. Not everyone has the same taste and also marketing plays a crucial role in product exposure to the popular. Product popularity doesn't affect user experience so I could care less if I own a product nobody has or likes, or how it's company is doing, this device is perfect for me.
If I wanted to buy into popularity and mainstrean, I'd have an iPhone and beats headphones.
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I don't mind that it is underrated, didn't or wouldn't matter to me. i like HTC. I don't have any of the problems some people have, call me lucky but not one HTC phone I ever had(I had them all, EVO, EVO3D, ONE M8, M9 and 10). WiFI works, speakers are good( I don't see my phone as a boombox), Sprint signal is sometimes spotty( that's Sprint). Camera is great(it's not a Nikon DSLR). As far bulky, I think the S7 Edge is bulkier. The 10 has been the best phone yet and yes I had the M8. I have no complaints.
Best phone out there for me and I've tried just about everything. Also nice to have a rare phone for a change
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@EtherealRemnant My phone is perfect in every way. No wifi, data, sound or screen issues at all. Why didn't you take yours back? Im also getting over 5hrs screen on time so battery is perfect for me. 2% drain overnight with wifi on.
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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.
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I'm shocked to see how many people care about the speakers, I'll take smaller bezels any day, I use my headphones 98% of the time and keep my phone silent all the time, I only use the speakers when I want to show a friend a video.
My device has a yellow tone area around the the lower part of the screen I'm gonna get it exchanged.
I would be all over a 5.5" HTC 10 , I know the new nexus is going to have a 5.5"acreen but with the trademark big HTC bezels +on screen buttons you end loosing 30-35% of the screen state, which is a big no. I miss the days of the nexus 5/6 and LG G2 bezels
I'd have a Galaxy Note 7 but I've burned by touchwiz all too many times, I have to stay strong this time!!
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I chose the 10 because of it's build quality, close-to-nexus feel, speed, camera, audio and more. In essence, I chose it because it was the best device that fits my needs. Not everyone has the same taste and also marketing plays a crucial role in product exposure to the popular. Product popularity doesn't affect user experience so I could care less if I own a product nobody has or likes, or how it's company is doing, this device is perfect for me.
If I wanted to buy into popularity and mainstrean, I'd have an iPhone and beats headphones.
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I always root for my favorite companies, also if a device sells well it's in the best interest of the manufacturer to update it quick and keep it working hassle free
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As far bulky, I think the S7 Edge is bulkier. The 10 has been the best phone yet and yes I had the M8. I have no complaints.
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In which way do you find it bulkier? Yes it's a bit taller and wider but it's nice , the screen is noticeably bigger , and nevertheless is a couple of grams lighter
I played with both HTC 10 and S7 Edge for a couple of days and i chose HTC 10. Yes S7 Edge Camera seem slightly better but if you learn how to use HTC 10's Camera, It takes photos and records videos good enough i would expect from a Phone. Was a pre-order which means I've been with it for quite some time and I have never ever experienced any problems like i've just read here. I give it a 5 Star
I just cancelled my order for a Note 7 to buy the HTC 10 instead. At first, it seemed like the Canadian Note 7's bootloader would be unlocked, but it isn't. The 10 is a better choice when it comes to customization and long term 3rd party support, software-wise. And it seems built a lot more durably that the Note 7. I had thought of getting one in the past, but 32 GB is very small (even 64 GB is too small for me). With an SD card, I'll do alright, thought.
As for how underrated the phone is... Good question. Part of why I had passed on it before was the small internal capacity and the high price compared to other phones. There are many phones that have similar specs but are less expensive. But I think that when it all comes down to it, the 10 is a very good quality phone, and it's more than just its specs. As for its problems, worst comes to worst, it can be exchanged.
not underrated at all....
no advertisements as usual.....
priced a little high(paid around 690USD as mine is standalone ) with less of open source so most of them are staying away from it...
very few carriers are giving it out on monthly installments....
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not underrated at all....
no advertisements as usual.....
priced a little high(paid around 690USD as mine is standalone ) with less of open source so most of them are staying away from it...
very few carriers are giving it out on monthly installments....
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Here in AUS every carrier has the htc 10. But you are right i haven't seen 1 advertisement about it.
Htc never seems to advertise anymore. I remember when the evo came out, every other commercial was about it. Got me to buy one, lol.
I don't know why, either. But I don't care. The only issue I've had with mine is the screen tint, but it's gotten better with time and I honestly don't notice it anymore. It's hands down my favorite phone I've ever owned. I was thinking of the Note 7, too, but it's not an option because of the locked bootloader.
I'm not sure it is underrated ? Every review i've seen more or less says great phone, maybe one of the best on the market, I don't think HTC have a bad rep either do they ? Every HTC i've had just keeps on working and i would argue 18months down the line they work better than most.. In work we use Samsung notes and they are painful to use in comparison I can't stand touchwiz (although the actual note taking part with the S-Pen is excellent) .. I pre-ordered the 10 also, love it no regrets actually due an upgrade and not bothering until maybe lured by a nexus and a 5.5" screen...
I notice a lot of HTC haters posting lot of bad feedbacks on this great device... Besides too few ads seen on tv and a higher price when launching the product.
Cost has a lot to do with it, while I feel it's worth it at $600 USD (which is what I got it for) anything more than that and I wouldn't have gotten it. While it's a great phone, it's hard to lay down that kind of money for anything.
There are many phones over $600. In fact, some phones, specifically the 6S plus and the note 7 costs north of $800.
I'm not sure why the 10 alone gets bashed when there are phones out there hundreds of dollars more. Some are willing to pay a certain price to enjoy something. Saying X should be X amount is an opinion and is no different than saying that paying $200 for jeans makes no sense when you can buy some for $20 or even less.
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HTC has a really bad reputation and it's a well deserved one. I don't personally think they can bounce back unless they knock the Nexuses out of the park. This device has issues. The volume of the speakers is abysmal compared the M7, M8, and M9, many phones have defective WiFi chips (mine included), the radio is hit or miss and doesn't get reception in a lot of places that my Note 5 did, the screen issues (red tint and banding) put people off, the standby time as a result of the defective WiFi chip puts people off, the glass on the camera holds fingerprints like nothing else which means it has to be wiped every time you want to use it, etc. It's a great device for XDA's community but for the average consumer it falls flat on its face against other flagships around the same price point. If Samsung didn't lock the bootloader on their SD 820s, I'd have a Note 7 myself right now.
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so disagree I had the S6 Edge because the M9 was too much like the M8 then I moved to the S7 edge, both of these phones were great but I couldn't fathom why I wasn't taken by them like I have been with all the HTC's I've owned and I've certainly owned a few. Then I bought the HTC10 and immediately sold the S7 edge. The HTC is faster, the signal at work is 4G on my S7 is was on Edge around most of the building, the music player has clarity and isn't oversaturated with bass like the Samsung's, the UI is more usable, especially the dialler which on the Samsung was a real frustration (coming up for air..................) I love the ice view which has so much more potential, the speakers are actually better balanced and give a clearer sound than p[previous incarnations and I actually use it more than I did the M8 boomsound, and I've got to say when I put my Bose headphones on this fantastic phone it sounds like nothing I have heard before, not to mention the customisation option this device has compared to the S7, S6.
The Samsung has a better camera and marginally better screen, the OLED screen is something the HTC 10 could have utilised for the ice view screen, the slo mo on the s7 is awesome (although I have not really tested the HTC slo mo or hyperlapse as yet) and the phone is really stylish and I'm afraid much like sex sells style does to, that's why Samsung sells so many phone despite all the superficial features on the s7.
Price new is to high. Picked one up on swappa for a decent price. wifi was kind of weak it seemed. Changed my setting from auto to 2.4 and turned off wifi calling which I don't need and wifi is good now. Phone signal is low it seems , but call quality is stellar and also very good . Never dropped a call yet.
I like HTC products and have had many, really like the 10 a lot. Build quality is excellent and the speakers while not loud sound nice and rich. Glad I picked it up.
There's not a lot i would change about the phone , an amoled screen , smaller bezels and 8 mm would have been nice and of course.... The price the htc 10 right is more expensive than the galaxy s7 edge and even more expensive than the galaxy s7 :/only geeks like us /HTC fans would choose it over those phones
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