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Trade in g3 for note 4?

I have the LG g3 I've had it for a little over a week and I do like it I have it rooted with a custom Rom and kernel. But the note 4 is so much more powerful I feel like even without root right now I might like it better than the g3. I'm only really worried about the lag that some have on the note 4 I don't have any lag on the g3. Also I hear the note 4 battery is awesome I can get about 4 hours maybe a little more on the g3. And I'm afraid that after time on the g3 games won't be smooth with the 801 chip and I'm sure there won't be any problems with the note 4 and games or videos. If I decide I like the note 4 better I'm going in today and I'd like to hear any opinions you guys have. Thanks
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I had a g3 briefly and I was one of the ones who felt like it was kinda laggy like the 801 was struggling with the 2k display. I can tell you first hand the note 4 is smoother and overall faster than the g3. Brighter screen and better battery life/gaming performance as well. Plus if you're the type to accessorize the note has many more accessories, docks, cases than the g3. Both are good phones but the note spanks it hands down in my opinion

I had the g3 from the first day it came out till about 3 weeks after the bootloader got unlocked. note 4 is a better phone all the way through but if you want root or anything then you better not switch

shawnten said:
I had the g3 from the first day it came out till about 3 weeks after the bootloader got unlocked. note 4 is a better phone all the way through but if you want root or anything then you better not switch
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That's the only thing that I'm unsure if.I can handle not having root but I feel.like I can just deal with it and just put nova launcher on it
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timmyd463229 said:
That's the only thing that I'm unsure if.I can handle not having root but I feel.like I can just deal with it and just put nova launcher on it
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I've handled it so far. The only thing I really miss is 3rd party apps writing to the SD card. The file manager built in does it fine and connecting it to pc is fine. At least there's a workaround though. I've got Apex loaded on mine.

I got the note 4 and so far I like it and I can disable a lot of bloat so that's good I'm sure I'll be happy with it

LG G4 vs Note 4

I can't decide which one to get... I'm mostly concerned about the battery life and camera.
Has anyone used both phones ? What is the battery life and camera like on the note 4 compared to the lg g4 and which one is less laggy?, I'm interested in the exynos version of note 4...

I only have the Snapdragon version of the Note 4. The battery performance is comparable, but I havent had the G4 long enough, nor do I have root to fully debloat the G4. I say its fairly even as of now.
Camera on the G4 spanks the Note 4. Note really worth the comparison especially in low light.
I like the Note 4 build quality better.

I agree with on every point there, the G4 is not really a huge improvement over the Note 4.
I have not really had chance to play with the camera much but hope to this weekend.
Hopefully we will get root for this device soon
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Depends on your choice... I really like the note 4 due to the exceptional battery I get... Around 5.5 6hrs of sot.... But I hate the fingerprint scanner and camera is good.... With the lg g4... You get a better camera and almost same battery .... But the camera is very good... Won't replace my DSLR anytime soon.... ?

im most likely trading in my note 4 , cant stand not having root, and most likely LG G4 will be rooted; - also i dont really like the two-handed design, i'd rather get a lil smaller and i think ill be able to one-hand it.

Tough one. With the G4 you have a better camera but in saying that the Note 4s is excellent anyway. Battery life with the Note 4 is better and it has a more powerful GPU than the G4 perhaps leading to poorer framerates in games and stutter in UI on the G4. The Note 4 also has Gorilla Glass 4 Vs GG3 on the G4. If you want a top class camera then the G4 is your phone, otherwise there's really not much difference.

I am exactly in the same boat....
But as I read all around, battery life is really bad on the G4, I think I will order a Note 4 on Monday.

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Tough one. With the G4 you have a better camera but in saying that the Note 4s is excellent anyway. Battery life with the Note 4 is better and it has a more powerful GPU than the G4 perhaps leading to poorer framerates in games and stutter in UI on the G4. The Note 4 also has Gorilla Glass 4 Vs GG3 on the G4. If you want a top class camera then the G4 is your phone, otherwise there's really not much difference.
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i was thinking on taking the note 4 but i got to this conclusions:
features:
first g4 got FM radio note 4 does not.
second the note 4 got kind of finger print sensor not really good one but he has that and the S pen which for me is useless.
Winner : note 4
Price:
in my country the note 4 is about 50$ more expansive than the G4 not the leather version its not much but the g4 is still cheaper...
Winner: g4
Build/premium feel:
the gorilla glass number does not really matter if you end up putting a good glass screen protector on it and lg claims that the slim arc design is more durable, dont know if that is true.
the premium feeling - if you are like me you are going to put your phone in a case so it does not really matter how it feels.
Winner: tie
multimedia:
as it appears to be G4 camera is better but as you said they both good,speaker almost the same preformance,screen its tricky but i am not going to say that the note 4 does not look good i just dont like the amoled color approach.
Winner: some say the headphone sound on the note4 is better so this is a: tie
interface:
if there is anything that i hate about touchwiz and i know its stupid its the appdrawer there is no simple search button (i know you can search but i just want a button on top just like HTC Sony and LG)
touchwiz is still laggy LG ux 4 is really nice some handful features in my opinion
Winner: g4
handling and operating:
after holding the g flex2 and the note 4 today i can tell you for sure that the note 4 is not a comfy phone at all (not to hold or to operate)
the holding - every phone with a curved back will be always more comfortable to hold than a flat one.
the operating - the screen 5.5 vs 5.7 not that much diffrence but... the flex got onscreen buttons while the note 4 does not... so flex is somthing like 5.2 without the buttons so.. 5.2 vs 5.7 it is a big diffrence ,so it is much easier to reach the buttons on the g4 than on the note 4 and you can hide them on any app you like on settings...
and another point that it might just be me but...(i dont know how to decribe so just ,you know listen to the story)with the note 4 your are surfing on chrome moving between pages press back go to another website press recent apps button go to check emails again rencet button back to chrome want to check the wether click home button and than ahhhhhhh its a physical button why? why do i suddenly need to add more pressure , it just ruins the user experience, and it's like that in all Samsung devices why they didnt just go with touch buttons all the way..
Winner: g4
benchmark(SD 805 VERSION):
note 4 benchmarks are slightly better in the gpu department only which is where the g4 is more efficient this is why he almost never gets hot..
but on reality the note 4 still suffers from touchwiz lags as the g4 on the reviews fly with out a problem
Winner : g4
updates:
i think you can count on LG in that department because they want to prove things.. and because the note 4 is almost half year old if not older i am not counting on fast updates.
Winner : g4
battery life :
from the battery thread i got this the g4 got better battery life than G3/S6 and avarge SOT is 4-6 hours which is pretty decent and it will last you a full day under moderate use and got better and from what i read the note 4 SOT is 6-8 (running on KK) it is more but if you really want that 2 hours more SOT you can get a future zerolemon or mugen power extended battery(with the same dimensions of the original one ) you might be getting a closer to same SOT as the note 4 .
any way in my country you are getting a free extra battery and a battery charger free with the phone so....
Winner: note4
(i do think that the g4 will get an update to polish things up)
summary:
g4:8
note4:4
so i will be going to get the g4
sorry for my bad english i hope i helped in anyway...
Fir3blade said:
I am exactly in the same boat....
But as I read all around, battery life is really bad on the G4, I think I will order a Note 4 on Monday.
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I just traded in my note 4 for t mobile g4. I'm not going to lie, the note is an awesome phone. I was personally just not a fan of touchwiz. It has some nice functionality and the spen is sweet but there was a lot of lag and it was just a hair to big whereas the g4 is a perfect size and fits my hands. Either way you can't go wrong, both are great phones. I think if I didn't have jump1 with T-Mobile I would have definitely stuck with the note....

xzfzx said:
i was thinking on taking the note 4 but i got to this conclusions:
features:
first g4 got FM radio note 4 does not.
second the note 4 got kind of finger print sensor not really good one but he has that and the S pen which for me is useless.
Winner : note 4
Price:
in my country the note 4 is about 50$ more expansive than the G4 not the leather version its not much but the g4 is still cheaper...
Winner: g4
Build/premium feel:
the gorilla glass number does not really matter if you end up putting a good glass screen protector on it and lg claims that the slim arc design is more durable, dont know if that is true.
the premium feeling - if you are like me you are going to put your phone in a case so it does not really matter how it feels.
Winner: tie
multimedia:
as it appears to be G4 camera is better but as you said they both good,speaker almost the same preformance,screen its tricky but i am not going to say that the note 4 does not look good i just dont like the amoled color approach.
Winner: some say the headphone sound on the note4 is better so this is a: tie
interface:
if there is anything that i hate about touchwiz and i know its stupid its the appdrawer there is no simple search button (i know you can search but i just want a button on top just like HTC Sony and LG)
touchwiz is still laggy LG ux 4 is really nice some handful features in my opinion
Winner: g4
handling and operating:
after holding the g flex2 and the note 4 today i can tell you for sure that the note 4 is not a comfy phone at all (not to hold or to operate)
the holding - every phone with a curved back will be always more comfortable to hold than a flat one.
the operating - the screen 5.5 vs 5.7 not that much diffrence but... the flex got onscreen buttons while the note 4 does not... so flex is somthing like 5.2 without the buttons so.. 5.2 vs 5.7 it is a big diffrence ,so it is much easier to reach the buttons on the g4 than on the note 4 and you can hide them on any app you like on settings...
and another point that it might just be me but...(i dont know how to decribe so just ,you know listen to the story)with the note 4 your are surfing on chrome moving between pages press back go to another website press recent apps button go to check emails again rencet button back to chrome want to check the wether click home button and than ahhhhhhh its a physical button why? why do i suddenly need to add more pressure , it just ruins the user experience, and it's like that in all Samsung devices why they didnt just go with touch buttons all the way..
Winner: g4
benchmark(SD 805 VERSION):
note 4 benchmarks are slightly better in the gpu department only which is where the g4 is more efficient this is why he almost never gets hot..
but on reality the note 4 still suffers from touchwiz lags as the g4 on the reviews fly with out a problem
Winner : g4
updates:
i think you can count on LG in that department because they want to prove things.. and because the note 4 is almost half year old if not older i am not counting on fast updates.
Winner : g4
battery life :
from the battery thread i got this the g4 got better battery life than G3/S6 and avarge SOT is 4-6 hours which is pretty decent and it will last you a full day under moderate use and got better and from what i read the note 4 SOT is 6-8 (running on KK) it is more but if you really want that 2 hours more SOT you can get a future zerolemon or mugen power extended battery(with the same dimensions of the original one ) you might be getting a closer to same SOT as the note 4 .
any way in my country you are getting a free extra battery and a battery charger free with the phone so....
Winner: note4
(i do think that the g4 will get an update to polish things up)
summary:
g4:8
note4:4
so i will be going to get the g4
sorry for my bad english i hope i helped in anyway...
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The question I personally have to ask myself is as I already have the Note 4 is it worth the extra £500 for a G4. The answer i find is, no its not. The G4 just doesn't have a massive advantage over the Note 4. If it was a brand new purchase I'd have to seriously consider a G4 but there's just not enough for me to shell out another £500 for a G4 when I already have a phone which is pretty much on par.

Batfink33 said:
The question I personally have to ask myself is as I already have the Note 4 is it worth the extra £500 for a G4. The answer i find is, no its not. The G4 just doesn't have a massive advantage over the Note 4. If it was a brand new purchase I'd have to seriously consider a G4 but there's just not enough for me to shell out another £500 for a G4 when I already have a phone which is pretty much on par.
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if you already have it than absolutely no! i on the other hand using HTC Desire now...and its about time i will switch to another phone.
and since you already have note 4 do you think my comparison is correct?
Basically I am at peace with my decision to go with the g4 but it would not hurt to hear another opinion

xzfzx said:
if you already have it than absolutely no! i on the other hand using HTC Desire now...and its about time i will switch to another phone.
and since you already have note 4 do you think my comparison is correct?
Basically I am at peace with my decision to go with the g4 but it would not hurt to hear another opinion
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I think youll do great with the G4, its a great phone and theres nothing much that the Note 4 can do better as long as you dont need a stylus and a root method is found for the G4 which im sure it will.

Batfink33 said:
I think youll do great with the G4, its a great phone and theres nothing much that the Note 4 can do better as long as you dont need a stylus and a root method is found for the G4 which im sure it will.
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Why everybody want the root? What can it makes different?
Also the note 4 is a older phone, so if you dont have the note 4 , go for the G4
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aygul12345 said:
Why everybody want the root? What can it makes different?
Also the note 4 is a older phone, so if you dont have the note 4 , go for the G4
Verzonden vanaf mijn HTC Desire met Tapatalk
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With root you can do a lot. I couldn't live without apps like Viper4Android or disable certain apps and services that cause battery drain and monitor what is causing the drain. You can also install Ad blockers, debloat your Rom and ultimately with an unlocked bootloader install new Roms and kernels. Root (and an unlocked bootloader) is a fairly vital function for most advanced Android users.

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With root you can do a lot. I couldn't live without apps like Viper4Android or disable certain apps and services that cause battery drain and monitor what is causing the drain. You can also install Ad blockers, debloat your Rom and ultimately with an unlocked bootloader install new Roms and kernels. Root (and an unlocked bootloader) is a fairly vital function for most advanced Android users.
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not to mention Xprivacy is crucial too!!! - love root, need root, its ashame companies are taking it away from us for "security" reasons, BS...i rooted my original Droid, still own it, and never had any "security" issues, only security issues is google cant steal my info as easily...

I have had the Note 4 since launch and is my favorite device purchased to date. Got to mess with the G4 last week and really like it. Overall, I prefer the Note 4 for three key reasons. Much better battery life (over two hours SOT, based on all reviews that compared), no nav bar and the Gear VR integration. Even without Gear VR I would prefer the Note 4, but if the Note 4 was not an option, the G4 would be my second choice since the S6 with no battery or sd option IMO is too Apple-like. The G4 would be a better option to me.
Speaking of VR, I wonder how the slight curve will impact VR set usage? Seems it could cause an ever so slight hourglass shaped distortion (maybe not enough to bug?).

hopefully my g4 gets here Wednesday and i can do a comparison against note 4 and g4

Batfink33 said:
I think youll do great with the G4, its a great phone and theres nothing much that the Note 4 can do better as long as you dont need a stylus and a root method is found for the G4 which im sure it will.
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Battery life is significantly better on the Note 4, but if carrying a spare battery or not out all day, no harm no foul.
Added: Based on Anandtech and other tech reviews, the display is not as power efficient as the Note display, so not sure how the battery life can be improved much on the G4. It does not seem to be
a case of rogue apps burning in the background, but per reviews mainly to do with the display tech. It is MUCH better than the G3's, but still apparently just as power thirsty.
The display is the biggest weight for power of average usage for devices.

rushless said:
I have had the Note 4 since launch and is my favorite device purchased to date. Got to mess with the G4 last week and really like it. Overall, I prefer the Note 4 for three key reasons. Much better battery life (over two hours SOT, based on all reviews that compared), no nav bar and the Gear VR integration. Even without Gear VR I would prefer the Note 4, but if the Note 4 was not an option, the G4 would be my second choice since the S6 with no battery or sd option IMO is too Apple-like. The G4 would be a better option to me.
Speaking of VR, I wonder how the slight curve will impact VR set usage? Seems it could cause an ever so slight hourglass shaped distortion (maybe not enough to bug?).
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I'm always in the market for the latest and greatest tech and had every flagship last year. Aside from the S6 which is a no-go for me due to the no sd slot and removable battery, the Note 4 (IMO) can't really be beaten at the moment. That will probably change later this year though. The only thing that would tempt me to the G4 is the camera but with its other downsides like locked bootloader, poorer battery and subpar GPU, it's just not enough.

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I'm always in the market for the latest and greatest tech and had every flagship last year. Aside from the S6 which is a no-go for me due to the no sd slot and removable battery, the Note 4 (IMO) can't really be beaten at the moment. That will probably change later this year though. The only thing that would tempt me to the G4 is the camera but with its other downsides like locked bootloader, poorer battery and subpar GPU, it's just not enough.
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Unless the Note 5 has a 4K display (for Gear VR use) and still has battery and sd options, I will happily stick with the Note 4. That presumes of course a 4K display is somehow power efficient (perhaps 4K mode for Gear VR and 1440p for everything else). I think though that Samsung is going to lose marketshare to the G4 and will mainly impact the S6. Really think Samsung screwed up with the S6 and actual sales appears to support this. Key differentiaion was the battery and sd option, but Samsung KILLED it and likely their chance of market improvement.
If only the G4 had the same power efficiency as the Note 4 display, it would be about "perfect". Not rooting or tweaking is going to help the display.

Certainly no Note 5 in my future. Alternatives?

Well, since Samsung has chosen to remove very popular features in the Note 5 such as SD Card slot, and expandable battery, I won't be buying one. However, i am looking at the LG G4 or upcoming LG G4-Pro.
Does anyone have any experience with the LG line that could enlighten me as to whether this is a viable alternative to the under-featured Note 5?

I have had the lg g3 and now I have the lg g4 and it is an awesome phone. and its at least rooted. the camera is awesome.

I switched from Note 4 to G4. So far so good, rooted, just waiting on more development. No support for xposed or any type of recovery like twrp or safe strap, but I'm sure those will follow soon.
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I will wait until perm root is confirmed before repeating my N4 mistake. Will the G4 Pro have the dev support if rooted or will it be minimal?

I think the Moto X Pure (style) is the best looking upcoming option. I also like what I hear about the LG G4 pro/note that is supposed to release sometime this fall. Both phones sound like they would be great alternatives. I do not use the SPen in my Note phones, so I don't mind losing that. I very much do mind losing micro SD slot. I would get a Note 4 if it was rootable, but we all know it is not.

LG G4 has permanent root
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Hey teegunn - When the g4 Pro comes out, I'll happily give you a deal on my Note 4 Developer Edition.

when is the permanent root comming out for the note 4 ?

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when is the permanent root comming out for the note 4 ?
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it's not

Lg G4 is absolutely the BEST phone I've ever had. Hi, I'm Tom and I'm a cell phone addict. I've had EVERY Major flagship phone releases on Verizon for the last 5 years. Basically I keep a phone about 3 or 4 months. I thought the GS6 was the greatest phone I ever used, but it was to small for my rapidly degrading eyesight. I bought the G4 and instantly knew I had found the Holy grail.
The display is a beautiful, the android skin is fluid and nicely done, LG sent me a leather back and extra battery & charger for FREE. All I did was send in proof of purchase. The curve of the glass is perfect.
For the 1st time I don't think I'm going to get a new phone for a while, unless Verizon drops a lg g4 pro, which I doubt.
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i will be waiting and looking around.
Note 4 will hopefully be enought for another year, and then i'll switch.
I want a lighter snapragon 820 device; s-pen is not important at all.

Note 5 Vs G4

Hi... i'm in love with my G4 like most of you probs, but for some reason there is part of me that wanna buy the note 5 despite it does not have sd slot and removeable battery.
What pisses me off a bit about the G4, is the broken kernel it has that causes weird lags at certain games and cpu heavy emulators, like PPSSPP.
I've posted in the QA section about the kernel issue and how rarely the big cores get used, i've seen that angry birds 2 works smoother on S6 vs G4, where G4 lags from time to time.
All in all, would u consider a note 5 to be good phone or just another big S6?

I've been reading up on the Note 5 as well and while it seems to run better in general, I have heard anecdotally, from various reviews, that the Note 5 also experiences intermittent lags. I think that as we fall in love w/ our devices, we tend to become very sensitive and nit picky to anything that appears less than optimal. That being said, my #1 reason for moving to the Note 5 is for the bigger screen and smaller bezels (i could be mistaken on this point).

U moved from G4? How is it?

I'm just looking the Note 5 as a possible upgrade...but think I'll be sticking to my G4 for now. I can't do w/o the replacement battery and microsd card. Not to mention tap to wake and the back buttons.

ye after reading everything on Note 5 on this last 2 days, i highly decided against it.
I must say G4 is really the best flagship, it has best camera, very good performance, BETTER memory management than GS6 and Note 5, sd slot, removeable battery excellent screen with true colours....
All in all i'm looking towards new SD820 on G4 Pro or LG Nexus 2015 whatever it gonna be called, if they follow G4 footstep and implant new SD820 with all it's benefits, i think we gonna have undisputed champion for a while.

Lol . me too . im just itching to get a new phone.
Since i paid full for my g4 i could subsidize my next one . but it must have micro sd slot.
Or ill keep my current h812
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G4/G5 alternatives with replaceable battery & SD card?

So...now that the bootloop issue has put LG on alot of people's blacklists...does anyone know of any other decent spec phones out there that offer a removable battery and SD card?

Samsung galaxy note 4??

I sport a s6 which has neither but o well its a better device other than the camera i use otg and flash drives. Wireless charging for both pma and qi natively no stickers. And faster. Once i fixed the battery drain issue. Which by the way is replaceable just requires a little work. I get better battery life most of the time than i do on my g4. And i have twrp with. root.

Yeah I used to be a Samsung Galaxy user (S2,S3,S4), so maybe I should look at the Note 4. I'll scout around the Note 4 forum to see if there are any major gotchas with it from people who have had them a while.
The S6 looks great but the replaceable battery is a must for me - I carry one all the time and use it at least once a week.

itm said:
Yeah I used to be a Samsung Galaxy user (S2,S3,S4), so maybe I should look at the Note 4. I'll scout around the Note 4 forum to see if there are any major gotchas with it from people who have had them a while.
The S6 looks great but the replaceable battery is a must for me - I carry one all the time and use it at least once a week.
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I wish it was replaceable to but screw it i only gave 20 bucks for my s6. It wouldnt turn on and i took a leap and found some corosion on one of the flex cables inside and bam works like a charm now.

itm said:
So...now that the bootloop issue has put LG on alot of people's blacklists...does anyone know of any other decent spec phones out there that offer a removable battery and SD card?
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Droid turbo 64gb/ turbo 2 check on their forums to which model to buy apparently not all can be rooted n unlocked n u have to be in LP too

jinderation said:
Droid turbo 64gb/ turbo 2 check on their forums to which model to buy apparently not all can be rooted n unlocked n u have to be in LP too
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The Droid Turbo doesn't appear to have a removable battery - or am I missing something?

itm said:
The Droid Turbo doesn't appear to have a removable battery - or am I missing something?
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Yes u cant remove it whats the point of removing it when its more than 3500mah will last u 3 days n also supports fast charging

Hmmm...this is interesting...it compares the G4 and Note 4 cameras. The Note 4 seems to suffer from the same flash overexposure problems that my wife's Note 2 has. In fact the G4 pretty much wins all round, particularly in low light:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzvlePzW6oM
That's going to complicate my decision, as I had got used to the superb camera on the G4 :0(

itm said:
Hmmm...this is interesting...it compares the G4 and Note 4 cameras. The Note 4 seems to suffer from the same flash overexposure problems that my wife's Note 2 has. In fact the G4 pretty much wins all round, particularly in low light:
That's going to complicate my decision, as I had got used to the superb camera on the G4 :0(
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Stick to g4 then, or consider lg v10

itm said:
Hmmm...this is interesting...it compares the G4 and Note 4 cameras. The Note 4 seems to suffer from the same flash overexposure problems that my wife's Note 2 has. In fact the G4 pretty much wins all round, particularly in low light:
That's going to complicate my decision, as I had got used to the superb camera on the G4 :0(
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S6 has a better camera than g4... I dont know why people fuss about removable battery since quick charge is available buy the 64gb version for storage more than enough for ur snaps... Or better yet buy a used dslr if ur photo enthusiasts for the same price as the phone im sure u will find plenty