Nowadays, Windows tablet equipped with the Intel processor has become the new mainstream of the current tablet market. In order to meet the habit of the desktop operating system, many of the earlier products will be equipped with a magnetic adsorption keyboard case, while most latest new models began providing direct multi-mode shaft + detachable keyboard design. PIPO W1S is such an equipment, through the specially shaft + keyboard designed, it can be easily transformed into a portable high-performance notebook.
PIPO W1S Tablet Highlights:
Operating system: 64Bit Windows 10
Display: 10.1 inch Screen, 1920*1200 pixels FHD display
CPU: Intel ATOM X5 Cherry Trail Z8300 quad core
Storage: 4GB DDR3L RAM + 64GB eMMC ROM
Cameras: Front 2.0MP + Back 5.0MP
Multi-mode Shafts + Detachable Keyboard Design
Functions:Support Bluetooth/WiFi/OTG/HDMI functions
PIPO W1S General:
Compared with other products which are also carried with Intel Cherry Trail Z8300 processor, W1S breaks the performance limitations, and uses a large-capacity of 4GB RAM memory, even pre-installed 64bit genuine Windows 10 operating system for the first time. The previous models are generally equipped with 32bit Windows operating system, and usually equipped with 2GB RAM, even if some individual models used 4GB RAM, because the 32bit system, it can not be fully identified. PIPO W1S breakthroughs this limitation, and can bring a more fluid operating experience. Moreover, 64GB high capacity disk, USB3.0 standard interface, FHD wide view angle IPS screen, full metal back shell and other configurations are also much more attractive.
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PIPO W1S Package:
The package style of the PIPO W1S is similar to its previous products, such as PIPO X9, and the new change is the gift handle holding design, which is more convenient for holding.
PIPO W1S Accessories:
Except for the user manual and warranty card, the most common used accessory in the packing boxes is the charger. This product has a separate DC charging port, not as most of products sharing the same port with the USB port, which is not only more efficient, but also allows USB slot independent. Some previous models will be equipped with conventional OTG adapter cable, for this product, it is not necessary, because it itself is equipped with the standard USB interface, you no need to adapt.
PIPO W1S Appearance:
W1S uses the calm black color with similar style of the past products. 10.1 inch screen, moderate size, as a tablet notebook, it better combined the portability and wide viewing effect.
The back is full-metal shell and surface takes grinding process, making it full of business atmosphere. PIPO W1S has dual cameras, as a Windows tablet, it is more generous.
W1S and the special keyboard is connected through the shaft, weighing about 1kg, screen and keyboard portions each about half the weight. 2kg weight in total, from the perspective of the notebook, in fact, is very portable.
Turning over you can see the back of the keyboard base, at the four corners there is a mat, which itself is a surface treatment process skin sense, when holding up, it is relatively fit for hand.
The total thickness is 2cm when closing the notebook and keyboard
Compared to the conventional magnetic adsorption keyboard base, the new shaft design is more solid, which supports flipping from 0 to 120 degrees, and can live securely.
The silver button on the junction is the buckle switch of the intermediate shaft, after pressing, the switch can be released and the tablet can be taken out individually.
It is the contact design at the connected point, without any pairing, just plug for using.
The metal snaps of both sides can sufficiently to ensure the stability when connected.
Except for the complete keyboard area of the keyboard base, in the upper right there are the caps lock and switch status indicator, which looks very intuitive, and the effect is very similar to using an ordinary notebook.
PIPO W1S has rich interfaces. At the left side, we can see the arrangement is very full, including a standard USB3.0 slot, an HDMI interface, Micro USB port, an earphone port and a recording port. The separate DC power supply is also a major advantage. Moreover, the whole thickness controlled within 1cm while providing a standard USB slot, it is worth praise.
Open shield baffles, there is a hidden TF card slot, the reserved position is for inserting SIM card, maybe it will launch 3G high version later.
Power and volume control bar are located on the left top corner of the fuselage, which matches daily using habit and have a better holding feel.
On both sides of the fuselage, there are speakers, putting effect performance is OK, but the sound is slightly sharp.
PIPO W1S Screen:
10.1 inch 1920 * 1200 pixels IPS panel offers excellent screen performance, whether color or viewing angles, it is basically impeccable. Compared to many low-end notebooks, apparently, the new product evolved from the tablet has more advantages.
PIPO W1S is equipped with genuine 64 Bit Windows10 OS, as we know, 64bit system can better support large memory, and will have a better performance in operating speed. Moreover, the Intel X5-Z8300 processor is also based on the 64bit instruction set, running a 64-bit system can be a complement to each other. However, many similar products on the market are pre-installed 32bit systems, apparently, PIPO done a better job in this. This product can be properly identified the 4GB large memory.
C disk is the storage that comes with system, total of 64GB capacity, except the hidden and invisible part that system has taken, there are more than 45GB can be self-managed, which is considered to be more adequate, not only can store daily applications, but also can load some other games.
Next let's look at the W1S specific hardware information. It adopts Intel Cherry Trail Atom x5-Z8300 processor with four nuclear & four-thread design, and the same 14nm process as Intel Core M processor, default frequency 1.44GHz, which can reach up to 1.84GHz. Consumes only 2W, will save more energy than the previous generation of Intel Bay Trail processor.
315 scores for 3DMark11 graphics test, the smae level with the same program products, nearly half of Core M program model score, while is around 1.5 times of the Intel Bay Trail tablet.
Pipo W1S provides PDF user manual, which is directly put on the desktop, double-click and it can be opened.
It can easily play 1080P online vide without Caton phenomenon, of course, this requires a fast network support. The WiFi reception capacity of the machine is relatively common, you'd better use it with the router at the same time in order to ensure the fluency for watching HD online videos.
Also support some larger touch screen games smoothly, no pressure for running
W1S has dual cameras, 200W pixel front camera + 500W pixel rear main camera. The following figure is a sample of the rear camera, and the camera size is 2560 * 1440 pixels, while the image is common.
As for the power consumption, when running temperature stress test, CPU temperature exceeds 80 degrees, the temperature of the CPU overheating protection is 90 degrees, but the hottest surface temperature is 42 degrees at this time, which is not too hot. Then is the endurance performance, it will be affected by different applications. W1S owns a 3.7V / 6800mAh capacity lithium battery. After fully charged, from 10:00am to 13:50pm power exhausted for playing 1080P video , it lasts nearly four hours, performance is law-abiding.
Verdict:
The overall performance of the PIPO W1S is similar to the products with same program. However, due to the larger 4GB memory and 64-bit system, the performance has improved. Innovative shaft design enriched its usefulness, which can be used as a notebook computer. Last but not the least, the perfect interfaces is also worthy of recognition.
PIPO W1S Tablet Unboxing, Hands-on Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnTcGctByY8
Sir, can you take a tablet with display mode or tent mode?
nice review
4GB RaM is really brutal
I would like to try one but since im in canada and french.. In no ways i can deal with a chinesse support... Only irulu Offer usa support.
Any idea what kind of tablet i can get from usa reseller?
I've just picked up one of these from Gearbest, dual OS version. Parcel seemed undamaged but box inside the packaging was a bit crunched which is odd as the packaging was good - I can only guess it was damaged before packaging. Apart from that it's working fine. First impressions - screen is really nice; keyboard is a chiclet, bit plasticky but the keys are well raised although some are an odd size, eg huge left shift and caps lock. Metal back of the tablet itself feels high quality although strangely huge logos on the back. I ordered black and the box stated black but I received blue - no biggie. PSU looks like a fire waiting to happen - I won't leave it unattended whilst charging as it gets super hot and I will be getting a better PSU from Maplin asap. It's a tiny PSU but it gets so hot it's unreal. So does the tablet whilst charging.
On power up you choose Windows 10 or Android. Android booted cleanly and seemed responsive enough; to switch into Windows mode you hold down the power key and 'Boot into Windows' is one of the options - nicely done, cleaner than the separate 'Boot to Windows app' on the Teclast X89 for example. I'll be doing more testing this weekend hopefully but I'm open to specific questions.
Update - after letting Windows 10 do all it's updates, the touchscreen has developed a kind of schizophrenia. Sometimes it works, sometimes the inputs register incorrectly, mirrored across the horizontal centre of the screen. Driver hunt continues.
Windows10 updates
mariom said:
Update - after letting Windows 10 do all it's updates, the touchscreen has developed a kind of schizophrenia. Sometimes it works, sometimes the inputs register incorrectly, mirrored across the horizontal centre of the screen. Driver hunt continues.
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Mariom: Are you suggesting that Windows10 should not be permitted to complete any updates as this will cause an issue with the OS? On the Gearbest website there was a notice that indicated no modifications or upgrades to the OS were to be undertaken. Did they mean that Windows10 was not to install updates to the W1S? I have the 2GB/32GB version of this tablet. Thanks.
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Mariom: Are you suggesting that Windows10 should not be permitted to complete any updates as this will cause an issue with the OS? On the Gearbest website there was a notice that indicated no modifications or upgrades to the OS were to be undertaken. Did they mean that Windows10 was not to install updates to the W1S? I have the 2GB/32GB version of this tablet. Thanks.
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I suspect it's the dreaded 1511 update which broke my drivers. I have now downloaded the Pipo W1S support package (about 11 700mb zip files which need to be combined) but haven't had time to experiment further. It might even be a restore image. I would suggest that if you can't risk the touchscreen not working, be careful with your updates or perhaps take a drive image, switch on system restore etc etc. I can tell you that the Android part is still working fine so it's not a hw fault.
Update - there seems to be a new version of the BIOS and the Windows 10 image dated 20th June 2016 on the Pipo website. http://www.pipo.cn/En/index.php?m=Product&a=show4&type=2&id=395
The webpage shows 2016-05-10 but the actual Baidu directory contains different fresher files I think. Time for the slow download to commence.
Cant install windows
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Update - there seems to be a new version of the BIOS and the Windows 10 image dated 20th June 2016 on the Pipo website. The webpage shows 2016-05-10 but the actual Baidu directory contains different fresher files I think. Time for the slow download to commence.
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So I have downloaded the stuff and tried the bios and android update went as expected. the windows update however has been unsuccessful, says the recovery partition is damaged and wont boot into the setup.
any suggestions would be grateful. working on alternatives as we speak.
My download hasn't completed yet, of the Windows image file from the 20160624 directory. I think they go together but haven't tried. Did you follow any documentation for the update? There is a chinese PDF there which can be translated with Google (with mixed success). I'm glad your Android part is working - any differences?
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My download hasn't completed yet, of the Windows image file from the 20160624 directory. I think they go together but haven't tried. Did you follow any documentation for the update? There is a chinese PDF there which can be translated with Google (with mixed success). I'm glad your Android part is working - any differences?
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Greetings.
Coud you please send to me a copy of your donwloaded files? I dont know how to do that because chinese lang is mandatory.
I have precisely the same problem.
Many thanks.
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Greetings.
Coud you please send to me a copy of your donwloaded files? I dont know how to do that because chinese lang is mandatory.
I have precisely the same problem.
Many thanks.
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Once complete, I will put the files on a Google drive and share the link here. If you use Chrome to browse the site, it will offer to translate the page for you. But the Baidu download site is a pain so it will still be better on Google drive. Please note that you flash the files at your own risk. The first Windows image I downloaded from Pipo had a virus in the Light test tool.
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Once complete, I will put the files on a Google drive and share the link here. If you use Chrome to browse the site, it will offer to translate the page for you. But the Baidu download site is a pain so it will still be better on Google drive. Please note that you flash the files at your own risk. The first Windows image I downloaded from Pipo had a virus in the Light test tool.
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Ir you explain to me whow do you did it, i can tried to do download it. Because the chineses lang is dificult to understand i had not made it. Anyway i can wait for your concluded files. Many thanks.
I have uploaded the files to mega.nz here
https://mega.nz/#F!tspmzYYb!ZczuryErr2r23KlLuPFP6A
There are 11 files for the Windows 10 image (10 x 700mb, 1 x 396.8mb), one for the BIOS and one for the PDF in Chinese.
*Warning*: I scanned the extracted Windows 10 files and a virus was detected in one of the test tools. I only use Bitdefender so it may be a false positive - please make sure you scan it before using it for your own satisfaction. I have not changed the Pipo original files at all.
Apart from this, does anyone have a problem with battery discharging? I put mine in my bag fully charged on Monday and didn't use it once. It's already dead on Friday morning.
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Apart from this, does anyone have a problem with battery discharging? I put mine in my bag fully charged on Monday and didn't use it once. It's already dead on Friday morning.
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Many thanks to uploading, i wiil try to see if it works.
Your aparts. My unique problem with battery, is in charging, the plug is aparently near on "fire". To mutch hot. In other hands, my battery charging acording expected and fortunatly, i have not problems, Yet...
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Many thanks to uploading, i wiil try to see if it works.
Your aparts. My unique problem with battery, is in charging, the plug is aparently near on "fire". To mutch hot. In other hands, my battery charging acording expected and fortunatly, i have not problems, Yet...
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De acuerdo! The power supply gets really hot. I will only plug in the tablet to charge if I am present in the room, otherwise I worry about a fire. I intend to buy a new charger from a UK electronics shop when I get the time.
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Update - I've now flashed the BIOS update (the 1_ version not the 0_ version as I have the 4Gb model) and it seemed to work fine. I haven't loaded the Windows 10 updated image yet as my existing Windows install is still working ok. However the Android partition just sits on the android loading logo (big white/silver word 'android' anim). I'll investigate further later but am a little worried as there's no Android update files available to reflash yet :-/ . Still, can't make omelettes without breaking eggs...
Further update - there is in fact an Android update there, but it's the original one from 4th May '16. I will download it and put it with the other files (it's 1.9Gb so might take some time).
Redinpais said:
Many thanks to uploading, i wiil try to see if it works...
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Greetings mariom
After downloading, i had unpack the 11 zipped files but on the whole, are superior to 8 GB. I can't use the flashdrive. I need to buy a 16 GB flashdrive.
Are the same thing happened with you?
Thanks.
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I could not find this tablet mentioned anywhere on XDA, so I've decided to create this thread for sharing impressions and useful information between owners and anyone interested.
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Manufacturer's page:
http://www.teclast.com/en/zt/x983g/
Specifications:
CPU: Intel Bay Trail-T 3735D 64bit, 22nm, 1.3(turbo 1.83)GHz
RAM: 2GB (DDR3L)
ROM: 32GB eMMC Flash
Display: 9.7 inch IPS 2048x1536
Camera: 2MP front / 5MP back (AF)
Radio: 802.11b/g/n, GSM+WCDMA, GPS, BT 4.0, WiDi
Connectivity: mkHDMI, mkUSB/OTG, mkSDXC
Battery: 8500mAh
MSRP: 1299CNY (approximately $210US).
First impressions
Fast, responsive, light, crisp and bright
Several Chinese apps. Some of them installing other Chinese apps. (removed/disabled, except for tUI and TeclastAutoUpdater)
No Apps drawer. no widgets - Apple-like UI. (Apex Launcher installed)
Overall feeling of money well spent
Current problems
I've found two things that I don't like about the tablet:
First, the speakers. I can't complain about sound - there's some bass, highs are clear, overall quality is good. But it eludes me why would someone place two speakers on the same side?
Second, and hopefully, temporary one, is the battery meter. From 0% it goes to 100% in about 20 minutes (BTW, the tablet pulls 2A out of the bundled PSU), says "charging 100%", for few hours more the current is still 2A, then 1.5A for some time, then 1A (somewhere here its starts to say "Charged"), and after 8 hours, when the current was 0.2A, I've disconnected the cord. "Bleep! Connect the charger! 10%" After an hour of use, I turned it of, then on... 77%! Went down to 8% after an hour more, then to 7% in another hour... :silly: A firmware update is definitely needed here. BTW, in 2 days I own the thing, I've had 2 updates, so the manufacturer's developers are doing something.
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I've got the POWER!
The bad news are - (1) technical support does not answer emails, at least in my experience.. Probably because of language difficulties, maybe they have some other reasons. (2) replacement batteries are hard to find - on ali express I found only one seller who claims his batteries are 12Ah. The good news is - I did not need all of that. Finally, I've decided to open the thing up and check all accessible connection points.
Disassembly
You'll need a sharp tool (there are special plastic tools, but I used regular small knife to start, and a plastic one from ikea to widen and crack on the initial opening). Back cover is snapped on over the screen base on small latches, and all you need to do is slit the groove that goes around the screen a little, then go on unlatching until it comes apart. The groove is just around the screen, between two plastic parts, not around the metal cover.
All I needed to do was tracking the battery wire, lifting black tape, and re-plugging the wire in its place. Full battery power is now restored. Feeling are mixed -- or ?
thanks for review
I have been looking to buy this tablet, where did you buy it from?
Thanks
garryweil said:
I have been looking to buy this tablet, where did you buy it from?
Thanks
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I bought mine from Aliexpress.com, from a seller with 3 diamond rating. Probably there are other places, but so far the price is slightly above the MSRP.
Thanks for the review
avich said:
I could not find this tablet mentioned anywhere on XDA, so I've decided to create this thread for sharing impressions and useful information between owners and anyone interested.
Specifications:
CPU: Intel Bay Trail-T 3735D 64bit, 22nm, 1.3(turbo 1.83)GHz
RAM: 2GB (DDR3L)
ROM: 32GB eMMC Flash
Display: 9.7 inch IPS 2048x1536
Camera: 2MP front / 5MP back (AF)
Radio: 802.11b/g/n, GSM+WCDMA, GPS, BT 4.0, WiDi
Connectivity: mkHDMI, mkUSB/OTG, mkSDXC
Battery: 8500mAh
MSRP: 1299CNY (approximately $210US).
First impressions
Fast, responsive, light, crisp and bright
Several Chinese apps. Some of them installing other Chinese apps. (removed/disabled, except for tUI and TeclastAutoUpdater)
No Apps drawer. no widgets - Apple-like UI. (Apex Launcher installed)
Overall feeling of money well spent
Current problems
I've found two things that I don't like about the tablet:
First, the speakers. I can't complain about sound - there's some bass, highs are clear, overall quality is good. But it eludes me why would someone place two speakers on the same side?
Second, and hopefully, temporary one, is the battery meter. From 0% it goes to 100% in about 20 minutes (BTW, the tablet pulls 2A out of the bundled PSU), says "charging 100%", for few hours more the current is still 2A, then 1.5A for some time, then 1A (somewhere here its starts to say "Charged"), and after 8 hours, when the current was 0.2A, I've disconnected the cord. "Bleep! Connect the charger! 10%" After an hour of use, I turned it of, then on... 77%! Went down to 8% after an hour more, then to 7% in another hour... :silly: A firmware update is definitely needed here. BTW, in 2 days I own the thing, I've had 2 updates, so the manufacturer's developers are doing something.
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Thanks so much for the review. I have been looking at this tablet and decided to purchase. I ordered from Ali express I think from the same seller you did (qh store) when I get it I'll let you know if I have the same battery issues.
sensors??
Hi, Im considering about this tablet but there is a small question that I wanna know before purchasing which is how many sensors this device has, does it has e compass and gyroscope as well as gravity sensors? Would you mind checking it for me?
Thanks in advance!
lala206 said:
Hi, Im considering about this tablet but there is a small question that I wanna know before purchasing which is how many sensors this device has, does it has e compass and gyroscope as well as gravity sensors? Would you mind checking it for me?
Thanks in advance!
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I am attaching AnTuTu test results, the last one says there is no G-Sensor, or compass, only Acceleration and Light sensors. However my seller indicated that there is gravity sensor, so there is a possibility (I hope) that it will appear after some magical firmware update.
tPad
They call it a tPad as a takeoff of the iPad I have had mine now for almost 3 weeks with very little trouble. I have not noticed the battery thing but I will keep an eye out for it. Yeah a bit strange about the speakers but what are you going to do. I have had 2 updates so far also. You can get Windows 8.1 on it now but it is a bit of a pain from what I can see to install from the factory website and doing a Google translate. Here is the link for the x98 forum. http://bbs.teclast.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=48 I think there is a new way to install Windows coming on the 15th. For the money ( I paid 1149 RMB-about $185 USD on Taobao when it first came out) I think you can't beat it. Great speed, great screen, 3G and I think it will be able to dual boot soon. Hope they get 4.4 on it soon
Hdmi
I'm looking for a tablet and this gives me good vibes HDMI its important for mi could somebody guarantee me that if this tablet has this port?
And another question, when W8.1 comes up officially, does it has a dual boot or we can only use an OS?
Nice review!
jhnchristopher said:
Thanks so much for the review. I have been looking at this tablet and decided to purchase. I ordered from Ali express I think from the same seller you did (qh store) when I get it I'll let you know if I have the same battery issues.
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Thanks for a lovely review :good: I too found this tablet absolutely fast and smooth but with few glitches as you mentioned like akward speaker positioning and battery drainage. Battery issues will be fixed soon hopefully. I used VRoot chinese version to root. Waiting for windows 8.1 update!
anyone who have this tablet can tell me about glass? is there some kind of protection like gorilla glass etc, or is easily to scretch it like Onda V975m? Im choosing my tablet now, but dont wanna waste my money..
thank you
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I am attaching AnTuTu test results, the last one says there is no G-Sensor, or compass, only Acceleration and Light sensors. However my seller indicated that there is gravity sensor, so there is a possibility (I hope) that it will appear after some magical firmware update.
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Thank you very much! Finally, it lacks so many sensors. Im a bit disappointed, but actually maybe I still go for it because of Windown 8.1 full
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anyone who have this tablet can tell me about glass? is there some kind of protection like gorilla glass etc, or is easily to scretch it like Onda V975m?
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No scratches so far. But sorry, I could not make myself scratch the screen with a piece of metal deliberately.
do google apps work?
Can anyone confirm If Google apps work? Google maps {turn by turn directions}, contact sync and other apps? Thanks in advance.
Hi guys!! I'm thinking of replacing my V975M for this the teclast X98... What do you guys think? What is Antutu X score for this one? Not Antutu... Where to buy it? Thanks!
where is the above product local service center ? it is a china product ?
eteles said:
Hi guys!! I'm thinking of replacing my V975M for this the teclast X98... What do you guys think? What is Antutu X score for this one? Not Antutu... Where to buy it? Thanks!
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If you dont need GPS & 3G
Best Choice is Onda V975I
Becuse Onda is The best company in firmware support
For example Huawei Never released any new Firmware For MediaPad 10 FHD ( good hardware )
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Onda every month release New version of android for their product
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rasoooli said:
If you dont need GPS & 3G
Best Choice is Onda V975I
Becuse Onda is The best company in firmware support
For example Huawei Never released any new Firmware For MediaPad 10 FHD ( good hardware )
But
Onda every month release New version of android for their product .
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Dude, I have the Onda V975M and let me tell you something about Onda... Their firmware SUCK... It's so much bugged that they have to release several updates... But the worse thing is that the bugs keep coming back every other update and you feel that nothing has really improved...
Another thing is that they are liers... They cheat at Antutu... They claim the CPU runs at 2.0Ghz (for the V975M) but the frequency is NEVER used by the system, except for cheating at Antutu benchmark...
They don't release source code, so you can't unlock the frequencies on kernel or have code modification for building better custom roms, or for the community to fix their mess...
The only reason they release so many updates is that they launch the product so early that their first ROMs leave the tab quite unusable, with system lag, rebooting, WiFi and sd card disconnection when tab sleeps... having to reboot tab to reconnect WiFi every time it sleeps and much more terrible bugs...
Not to mention the update procedure, that has 50% chance of hard bricking your tab... another thing: it doesn't have download mode and Sd card booting doesn't work after bricking...
QQQ
hi i want to buy this tablet but i have several question can any one help me if he have this tablet or know this question ?
1- can you tell me How long does it take the battery use on wifi and 3g connect with 50%brightness ?
2-can you tell me How long does it take the battery use on 3d gaming ?
3-can you tell m eHow long does it take the battery use on play back fhd movies ?
***How long does it take to fully charge the batteries?
4-whats your observation about battery life in this tablet ?
5-can i make a gsm phone call with tablet(2g) ?
6-can you tell me problems do you have with tablet (cons)?
7-do you recommend i will buying this tablet ?
thank you very much if you will answer my question
I found a review that said that this processor is not compatible with many 3d games, and wouldn't load 4 of 10 3d games that they tried. Can any of you that own this tablet confirm or refute this?
harpdoc said:
I found a review that said that this processor is not compatible with many 3d games, and wouldn't load 4 of 10 3d games that they tried. Can any of you that own this tablet confirm or refute this?
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That is very likely true for the moment - many games come with binary optimized code for ARMv7 32-bit architecture, while this one is Intel x64 and just started to appear on low-cost devices. But I would expect things to get (much) better in a few months. I also think there might be a possibility that gaming could be a lot better with some games under the (extra-cost) Windows OS.
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You must be wondering what makes this model so special. Well, it offers amazing features for the price of only $85 – 5.0” display, 64-bit Quad-Core processor, 2GB RAM, 16GB of internal memory, 2 cameras, 2400mAh battery and Android 5.1 Lollipop! You are interested, aren’t you? It’s OK, so am I.
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A well-recognized web site specialized in selling mobile phones, tablet computers and accessories, Pandawill, has provided a sample of the Doogee X5 Pro for testing and writing this review.
Technical specifications:
Processor: 1.0GHz Quad-Core Cortex-A53 (Mediatek MT6735, 64-bit)
Graphics chip: Mali-T720
Display: 5.0“ IPS LCD 1280x720 pixels (sensitive in 2 points simultaneously)
RAM: 2GB
Memory: 16GB ROM (~12GB user available) + microSD slot
Back Camera: 5.0Mpix (interpolated 8.0Mpix), autofocus, LED flash, video [email protected]
Front Camera: 2.0Mpix (interpolated 5.0Mpix)
Battery: 2400mAh (removable)
Connectivity: WiFi 802.11b/g/b, Bluetooth 4.0, microUSB, OTG, GPS with A-GPS
OS: Android 5.1 (Lollipop)
Dimensions: 145 x 82 x 40mm
Network: 2G – 850/900/1800/1900MHz, 3G – WCDMA 850/1900/2100MHz, 4G – FDD-LTE Bands 1/3/7/8/20
Other: Dual SIM, FM Radio
Package contentDoogee X5 along with its accessories comes in a compact box, the design of which is simple, but quite interesting. On the top there is a light-reflecting “X5 Pro” mark, while on the bottom you can see phone’s most important features. On one of the sides of the box, there is a scratch sticker hiding the product authenticity verification code.
Upon opening the box on the side, you can pull out the content of the box – phone, charger, USB cable and short manual. A protective foil is already on the phone, so its new owner doesn’t have to go through the trouble of applying it himself.
The charger is standard, with a generic shape and specifications of 5V 700mA. However, it would surely be better if the manufacturer had provided a charger of at least 1A to shorten the charging period.
The USB cable given with the phone could be used for phone-PC data transfer as well as for charging – it is not limited only to the charging capacity.
The short manual covers the basics of Android OS use, and thus will be useful only to the beginners in the Android world.
The 2400mAh battery is already inside the phone when the buyer gets it, but before he starts using it, he needs to remove the protective foil off of it, as is specified on the box.
The absence of stereo headphones from the package implies that the manufacturer wanted to lower the price as much as possible, which will not bother most of new users, since they will already have headphones of their liking.
AppearanceDoogee X5 Pro has a simple design and the model we received for the purpose of this test is completely black (there is also a black-and-white combination). It is considered to be a phone of average thickness (8.2mm), but you can “feel” it in the hand because of its weight of as much as 130 grams. The battery cover takes most of the phone’s frame, thus in a way protecting it in case of falling on one of its edges.
On the top side of the phone there are connecting ports – a micro USB port (for charging, as well as PC and peripheral devices connection) and a 3.5mm audio connector for headphones.
On the right side there are buttons for sound control and turning the screen on and off. They are very sturdy, well responsive and have a distinguishable click, which makes us think they will endure usage for long period of time.
Microphone and speaker openings are on the bottom side of the phone. As far as sound is concerned, it is very loud and reproduced in satisfactory quality, so the phone can be clearly heard even if it is carried in its own case.
The biggest part of the front side is occupied by a 5.0” display. Even though there was available space for the control buttons to be on the screen itself, the manufacturer decided to place the capacitive buttons (Menu, Home and Back) below the screen. This is a better option for some users, since the entire screen is available at all times, while others will be asking why the buttons aren’t on the screen, since it will additionally make the phone smaller. Unfortunately, capacitive buttons aren’t backlit, which makes them hard to see and use in the dark.
Above the screen you can see the front 2Mpix camera, proximity and light sensors, as well as the speaker opening. In-call sound quality is clear and loud, even in the middle of the sound control bar.
The battery cover is smooth to the touch, but covered in rubber-like plastic in order to prevent slipping and allowing better handling of the phone. Perfectionists will be bothered by the fact that the phone will constantly be covered in finger prints, and so they will have to wipe it with a cloth regularly.
In the upper section of the phone there is a 5Mpix camera, not far from the flash LED. In addition, under that exact spot the Doogee logo is discretely, but clearly visible.
The battery cover is firmly attached to the front of the phone, so we advise careful removal so as not to damage the cover holders, although it is our opinion that they are flexible enough not to break quite so easily.
Upon cover removal you can see the blue 2400mAh battery, above which there are 2 SIM slots (both Micro-SIM sized), as well as the slot for a microSD memory card capacity up to 32GB. In order to access these slots, it is necessary to remove the battery from its setting.
The SIM slots are numbered 1 and 2, but that in no way determines which of the cards will be the primary one, since the user himself can choose which card to use for calling, messaging, surfing the mobile Internet (4G!), etc.
The phone’s surface looks impressive even though this is a budget phone. Yes, there are small traces of plastic injection near microUSB port opening and 3.5mm audio port, but it is barely noticeable and in no way diminishes the beauty of the phone. It is a pity that X5 Pro is missing the notification LED, since it would eliminate the need to turn the screen on in order to check for any missing calls or text messages.
DisplayDoogee X5 Pro comes with IPS 5.0” display with 720p resolution (1280x720 pixels). This makes it a very good choice for a screen of this diagonal, because the pixel density is high enough so that the image is as clear as it can be expected although there are phones with much higher resolution on today’s market. We have secretly feared that colors would seem washed out while the visibility angles would be narrow, but that is not the case at all in X5 Pro. Color intensity is fairly good, whilst image rendition stays the same until viewing in extremely sharp angles. The manufacturer states that the phone comes with Gorilla Glass display protection, but it remains untested in that aspect.
Screen reacts to the touch very well and it’s responsive in 2 points at the same time, that’s enough for most uses, including playing games. The only problem we noticed it’s that it reacts a bit unprecise when fingers are too close to each other, that makes a pinch-to-zoom gesture a bit difficult.
Back lighting can be very intense, which makes the displayed content visible even in direct sun.
SoftwareWhat is interesting is that Doogee X5 Pro comes with Android 5.1 (Lollipop) OS, which means the phone is adorned with both good hardware and optimized software. Software appearance and its functions do not differ excessively from Google source code, although there are certain additional phone setting functions offering further possibilities.
Android 5.1 has finally brought dual SIM native support, so manufacturers have no need to create their own solution to the “problem” of selecting SIM cards in lie with each situation. When a SIM-using app is run (Dialer, Messaging, Hangouts, etc.), notification menu displays the possibility to choose which SIM card will be used at that point. It is also possible to predetermine the use for each card, further simplifying the entire process.
It is possible to turn on certain gestures to facilitate phone use, such as flipping the phone onto the screen in order to silence ringing, answering a call by lifting the phone a bit more quickly, or simply switching to speakerphone and back by bringing the phone closer to the ear.
What is more, the phone has the option of turning on with a double display touch (Double-tap to Wake), sliding down on the screen while turned off in order to quickly run the camera, or writing on the screen to run apps like dialer, Internet browser, Play store, messenger, etc.
The “Visitor mode” solves the problem many have been dealing with since the appearance of mobile phones – denying access to certain parts of the phone. By activating this particular mode, you can hide call lists, SMS messages, pictures and disable modification of main screens on the phone. This is an excellent option to activate before lending your phone to a friend. However, in order to turn this option on and off, you need to enter your PIN.
Similar effect can be achieved by means of “AppLock” app, which does exactly what its name indicates – locks apps, and provides access upon entering the PIN.
Moreover, the proximity sensor also has certain phone management functions. By waving your hand above the sensor, you can scroll pictures, shuffle songs, take photos, change pages in launcher, unlock the phone and answer a call. As to how smart of an idea this is, we will let you decide.
More advanced users will like the built-in option of controlling app permissions (Permission Manager), which means that any app can be simply revoked the permission to dial, send messages, read location, access contacts, use camera, etc.
All in all, Doogee X5 Pro has left a favorable impression as far as OS and additional apps are concerned. Thanks to Android 5.1 OS, animations are beautiful and fluid, transition between apps is fast (for which large RAM memory can be credited, 2GB) and there wasn’t even an instance of unexplainable lag. With basic preinstalled apps installed, only 500MB RAM is occupied, thus leaving a lot of space for installing and multitasking between large numbers of apps.
CameraAs previously stated, Doogee X5 Pro on its back has a 5Mpix camera (interpolated to 8Mpix) with very limited possibilities, while on the front it carries a 2.0Mpix camera for video chats.
The 5Mpix camera has autofocus, LED flash and makes 2560x1920 pixel pictures without interpolation.
Camera sensor possibilities are quite poor. While colors are good in the daylight, it lacks detail even while taking photos with a steady hand. Photos seem good on the screen, but when zoomed to their original size, there is a visible lack of sharpness and “oil-on-canvass” effect. Photos of closer objects are satisfactory in sharpness, but most landscapes make you want to give up the sport. This is quite a shame, since the camera software has interesting options such as automatic photographing by lifting 2 fingers in the shot, automatized following of an object and taking its picture, recording “live” (making a 5-second long video with a photographing effect) and the Face beauty mode, which removes skin imperfections and makes you more pretty (the fare sex loves this option in Samsung phones).
Photo samples:
Battery LifeDoogee X5 Pro comes with a 2400mAh battery, which is enough capacity to allow the phone one-day autonomy with more intensive use. Seeing how the processor is economical and works on lower frequency, battery consumption is moderate. We have measured its autonomy by inserting 2 SIM cards into the phone (one in the 3G/4G mode and the other in the 2G mode) and running synthetic tests, making a few shorter phone calls (about 20 minutes in total), taking pictures outside for about an hour and a half (during which time mobile Internet was active), testing its speed of access to the 4G network, and then surfing the Internet using WiFi connection.
During all that, the screen was on for 4 hours and 30 minutes, while the phone was off the charger for 30 hours! We believe this to be an excellent score considering all this phone’s features.
PerformanceDoogee X5 Pro is based on MediaTek MT6735 64-bit chipset which is increasingly present in lower-middle class models. MT6735 has a Quad-Core processor at 1GHz (988MHz, to be more precise), Mali-T720 graphic chip and 2GB of built-in RAM memory.
The processor is probably intentionally limited to lower frequency instead its maximum (1.3GHz) in order to provide a better battery autonomy, since it has proven to be quite economical and still powerful enough for most users’ needs. Judging by synthetic tests, MT6735 chipset at 1GHz frequency performs in the rank of Snapdragon 400 chipset and its Quad-Core processor, which is an excellent trait considering the price of X5 Pro phone.
It also has built-in USB OTG option, so it is possible to connect USB flash drive or USB mouse or keyboard directly to the phone using USB OTG adapter.
Obtaining GPS location on this phone is quick and precise, since it easily finds a large number of satellites and connects to most of them in 30 seconds. Therefore, it can definitely be used as GPS navigation with matching navigation software.
Benchmark tests results:
ConclusionDoogee X5 Pro is a smart phone which has suddenly appeared on the market and attracted a lot of attention with its surreal hardware for a good price. Its IPS display with wide visibility angles and quality rendition will allow undisturbed use in all conditions, while its work speed will satisfy all less and moderately demanding users. If you want an affordable smartphone and you can look past a few smaller cons, there is no reason to be apprehensive – you should definitely take the X5 Pro model into consideration as best buy in the lower price range!
Pros:
Good quality display
Fast response
4G LTE support
Powerful speaker
Cons:
No notification LED
Capacitive buttons unlit
No gyroscope and g-sensor
Once more, big thanks to Pandawill for providing a sample device for testing.
Author: Stevan Stevanović
DOOGEE X5 Pro Smartphone Unboxing & Hands-on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbfOhhMnCoM
Great review, thanks.
Could it be possible to overclock the CPU to 1.3 GHz when the device is rooted?
I saw one review (here) that had an Antutu benchmark of around 30000. It is an early review (August 30th), so perhaps it was an early demo phone that was clocked higher?
You're welcome.
I think it can't be overclocked. Not with the stock kernel, anyway. To phone runs cool, even with the maximum CPU load (about 30C), so I do think the CPU has potential to withstand OC to ~1.2GHz, but there isn't a way at the moment.
As I detailed in this now closed thread, I am unable to get this phone to operate at anything faster than 2G network speeds. The specs of this phone would appear to keep it out of the 4G (or even 3G) range for AT&T in the USA, and indeed, most every other USA carrier I'm aware of. Such a sadness because this is really a nice phone at such a good price.
Excellent phone
Ive had this phone for about 3 weeks now.
Its an awesome phone for the money.
Im not a fan of how branded companies charge huge profit margins like HTC and samsung.
This phone has all I need.
It has 3G and 4G LTE which work great in my country (New Zealand).
In fact the antenna is very strong compared to my old samsung.
The camera is fine for me at 5MP, the autofocus works well and ive been able to take some really nice pics, better than the ones in the review above. Closeups are excellent. If you hold down the shutter button you get something like 6 to 7 shots per second which are then saved as a progression of pics that are then viewable in gallery as a kind of gif animation with each frame been able to be used as a photo. Theres tons of features built in. I really like that no tweaking is needed out of the box.
I installed Hola launcher as I just like its style, its faster than stock launcher and organizes apps into easy folders and it has built in weather and intuitive interface that works really well with this phone.
Ive always bought phones with hardware buttons. I cant stand phones with on screen buttons. It just takes away from everything.
So much nicer having real buttons.
Im happy there is no notification LED. This used to annoy me on my samsung and my smart 4 especially at night time I dont like any flashing LEDS in my room when im sleeping.
Double tap to wake up is nice and also useful when i have it on my car bracket.
Only cons so far are that OTG doesnt seem to work currently. Im guessing the phone needs to be rooted to use that feature and as others have noted there doesnt appear to be an easy root method as yet.
its a shame it doesnt have gyro because my google cardboard isnt much use, but i guess i can still watch 3d movies with it.
Hey.. good news.. looks like KIngroot have updated their app because I just opened kingroot and it says 92 requests received and a strategy is been worked out, which is better than last week. I will try to root manually anyway today. Id really like OTG access.
awakekiwi said:
Only cons so far are that OTG doesnt seem to work currently. Im guessing the phone needs to be rooted to use that feature and as others have noted there doesnt appear to be an easy root method as yet.
its a shame it doesnt have gyro because my google cardboard isnt much use, but i guess i can still watch 3d movies with it.
Hey.. good news.. looks like KIngroot have updated their app because I just opened kingroot and it says 92 requests received and a strategy is been worked out, which is better than last week. I will try to root manually anyway today. Id really like OTG access.
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OTG works fine for me. I'm just using a bog-standard OTG adapter and a FAT32-formatted USB thumbdrive.
I'm still looking forward to a working root though.
Tonto87 said:
OTG works fine for me. I'm just using a bog-standard OTG adapter and a FAT32-formatted USB thumbdrive.
I'm still looking forward to a working root though.
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Ok maybe my home made OTG cable is the problem.. i just used my data cable with a female to female adaptor on the end.. mayb e that doesnt actually work?
[FIXED] used a correct OTG cable and its all working great! no need to root this phone for any reason now!
I don't know why the rooting thread has been locked, but rooting and installing TWRP is really easy:
Follow this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63173937&postcount=9
Download TWRP here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63232390&postcount=26
Flash TWRP recovery (step 3 onwards): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63263496&postcount=39
I used Rashr to flash TWRP recovery.
Woof
Doesn't work if you have already updated via wireless update.
Phone won't accept the update.zip I you've updated already.
Only via factory reset first. That's our problem.
I stick with a R5 because of rooting problems above that Version.
Ok
OK good to know.. Don't need root at this stage as otg is working now.. Phones still fast so no major advnatge to root for me at present..
awakekiwi said:
Doesn't work if you have already updated via wireless update.
Phone won't accept the update.zip I you've updated already.
Only via factory reset first. That's our problem.
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Really?
I'm on DOOGEE-X5pro-Android5.1-R08-2015.10.26 and root worked fine.
I had two updates applied from when I received my phone.
Good news, did you had to root again after update?
I rooted for the first time after applying all the updates. Only recently made sense of the rooting thread! Don't know if it'll create problems if there's another update, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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ok thanks maybe i will try again...
Tonto87 said:
I rooted for the first time after applying all the updates. Only recently made sense of the rooting thread! Don't know if it'll create problems if there's another update, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
Sent from my X5pro using Tapatalk
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How did you do to root?
I have R08-2015.10.26 but I am unable to root (install supersu)
I followed the procedure of wireless update → select update.zip and click ok. When the phone reboot, it start the install but stops and show "error".
smshare said:
How did you do to root?
I have R08-2015.10.26 but I am unable to root (install supersu)
I followed the procedure of wireless update → select update.zip and click ok. When the phone reboot, it start the install but stops and show "error".
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See the method in a previous post in this thread. I don't know why you get an error. Did you follow the method to the letter and use the SuperSU from the Mega link?
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yep
yepn same problem for me.. used mega link file and it just says error a third of the way through.. seems a common problem for some users...
Tonto87 said:
See the method in a previous post in this thread. I don't know why you get an error. Did you follow the method to the letter and use the SuperSU from the Mega link?
Sent from my X5pro using Tapatalk
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GRETEL A9 - Information & Reviews - 5.0" HD | MT6737 | 2GB | 16GB | Front Fingerprint
GRETEL A9
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Specs:
Dimensions: 146.6 * 72.8 * 8.7 mm
Weight:
Chassis: Metal
SoC: MediaTek MT6737
CPU: ARM Cortex-A53, 4x1250 MHz, Cores: 4
GPU: ARM Mali-T720 MP2 520MHz, Cores: 2
Network: 4G Cat.4 (150MBps) with VoLTE Support
RAM: 2 GB
Storage: 16 GB
Memory cards: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC
Display: 5.0 in, IPS, 720 x 1280 pixels, 24 bit
Protection:
Battery: 2300mAh, Li-Polymer
OS: Android 6.0 Marshmallow, update to 7.0 in April
Back Camera: 3,264 x 2,448 pixels (8MP), Samsung 3H7 Sensor, Interpolated to 13MP
Front Camera: 1920 x 1080 pixels (2MP), GalaxyCore GC2155, Interpolated to 5MP
SIM card: Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby
Wi-Fi: 802.11 b/g/n, 2.4GHz, Single-Band
USB: 2.0, Micro-USB
Bluetooth: 4.0
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS
Other Features: Front Fingerprint Scanner, Hotknot
Colors: Matte Black
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Development & Support:
Coming Soon
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My own review: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ge...gretel-a9-information-reviews-5-0-hd-t3568919
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After many days of waiting time, the device has been delivered
Review coming soon.
Introduction
This is the GRETEL A9.
Hardware
This is the first device ever released by GRETEL, which was a OEM company making smartphones for other brands. Powered by a Mediatek MT6737, with 2GB RAM, 16GB ROM and 8MP Back Camera, it is clear that this is a device targeted for the low-end market.
Unboxing
Packaging comes with some accessories: 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x 5V/1A USB Charger, 1x Quick Start Guide, 1x TPU Cover, 1x Plastic Screen Protector and the Smartphone (of course). Another screen protector is already applied.
Talking about the dimensions, it is 14.66x7.27x0.89cm, not the smallest 5 inches device you can find. It weights 165g, acceptable considering the metal back cover.
Similar to most unibody devices, also this one features two plastic bands at the top and at the bottom of the back cover, with metal in the center. As regards the materials quality, the plastic parts seems to be a bit too much cheap. (compared to the premium looking metal)
On the front side there is the standard 2.5D Curved Display and the upper front side of the device features a Front-Facing Camera, an Earpiece, and the Sensors hole that includes Light, Proximity and Gesture Sensors. No Notification LED is here.
On the lower front side there is the Touch Keys area, with Menu, and Back buttons, together with the Fingerprint Scanner in the center.
On the back side there is the unibody back cover.
The upper rear side of the device features the small rounded Camera Sensor supported by a single Flashlight.
On the lower rear side there are some certification logos together with the Speaker hole.
Device
Screen
Compared to other budget devices, the screen used here seems to be surprisingly good (expect for the Brightness), even though i notice a small purple halo on the left side, probably an issue of my review unit.
The Light Sensor supports almost smooth light changes, with a proper auto-brightness management. This is its maximum brightness. Not the best to be used under direct-sunlight.
Viewing Angles matches IPS screen capabilities, with no major issues.
Maximum 5 points are supported here.
Camera
Something that surprises me even more is the Back Camera, GRETEL choose to use a Samsung 8MP sensor that, considering the price target, seems to behave pretty good. The Front Camera though...is rubbish unfortunately. (well you can't get everything).
"HDR off" on the left and "HDR on" on the right.
Macro Photos are discrete, not the best neither the worst.
Photos taken in medium and standard light conditions seem to be pretty good too.
Considering the single flashlight, the result isn't too bad.
As regards Video Recording, 720p videos are decent, with stable 25fps.
Even though the front camera has a dedicated flashlight that should be provide better image quality, the sensor itself is really crappy. (OmniVision 2MP, not Wide-Angle)
Audio
Speaker Quality is decent, nothing to complain about, just the standard speaker with almost inexistent low-frequencies and medium-high volume.
As regards the Microphone, it works decently well in any case (in-call, VOIP, etc...), and the earpiece is surprisingly clear and loud.
GPS
GPS Signal is good, not the best, but on a MT6737 this is probably one of the best results.
Indoors on the left, outdoors on the right.
Telephony, Mobile Network & WiFi
Thanks to the 4G Band 20 support, i'm almost everywhere connected to the 4G Network of my Operator, with a good signal reception.
3G Signal Reception is accurate too, actually I never managed to get connected to the 2G Network of my Mobile Operator because there was always some 3G Signal available. (luckily there are no coverage issues here)
4G Network Speed is average, even though it highly depends on your Mobile Operator and mine isn’t pretty good.
WiFi 5GHz isn't supported here. With my 2.4GHz network, i was able to reach almost 42mbps, connected at 65mbps, with the same ping that i get on my Desktop PC.
Battery Life
As always, i have measured the real battery capacity using my USB Tester, and it seems that the real battery capacity much lower compared to the declared value (declared 2300mAh, real ~2030mAh).
This is the PCMark Battery Test. Minimum Brightness and WiFi On. Considering the battery capacity, this is decent.
As regards battery charging times, the 5V/1A charger is enough for a normal charging runtime, but you can't expect super-fast times.
Software
GRETEL choose to use a partially customized Android OS, based on Android 6.0, named FreemeOS (probably familiar to some users). The level of customization is luckily pretty low, so everything can be removed and replaced with Google Apps. Luckily Android Security Patches are updated, and an Android 7.0 OTA is coming soon.
Just like other last-gen Mediatek Devices, there are some typical features such as Gestures, Scheduled Power On/Off, etc…
The Fingerprint Scanner is sufficiently fast, not lightning fast like some other devices, but it is pretty reliable and fast to configure.
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark, AndroBench, Antutu Benchmark, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 4, GFXBench, PCMark (Work 2.0, Computer Vision, Storage & Work 1.0) and Vellamo to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – GPU Performance is as low as all other MT6737 devices.
AndroBench – eMMC Performance is decent, write speed lower than read speed. (as expected)
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmark, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Epic Citadel – As you can see, 3D performance is barely sufficient for smooth gaming.
GeekBench – CPU Performance is nearly as good as other CPUs with the same configuration (4x Cortex-A53), enough to handle almost every type of activity.
CPU
Compute
GFXBench – As already said, GPU performance is low, and somehow lower than MT6735. (just like all MT6737 devices)
PCMark – Good Overall performance, the maximum obtainable from this SOC.
Work 2.0
Computer Vision
Storage
Work 1.0
Vellamo – Being an super-heavy benchmark, you can clearly see why this device needs to be considered as low-end.
Conclusions
Well...GRETEL A9...can it be translated to GREat-TEL A9? Maybe. Being the first device released with this brand, it is normal to say that there are some things that need to be improved, just like the first device of all new companies. But, most important, there isn't much to complain about. This is probably the cheapest device available that offers a decent rear camera and 4G support, together with a guaranteed Android 7.0 Nougat upgrade.
Ok, the Front Camera is crappy and the build quality might not be the best ever reviewed, but considering the price target, i'm impressed.
So, do i recommend it? If you are looking for a budget device and can't spend more, yes!
Pros:
Included TPU Cover
Decent Rear Camera
Front Flashlight (but useless)
Front Fingerprint Scanner
Good Multi-touch Panel
Cons:
No Notification LED
Mediocre Build Quality
Crappy Front Camera
Declared Battery Capacity higher than Real
Rating: 8.0
Packaging and Accessories: 9
Design and Materials: 6.5
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 7
Screen: 7.5
Camera: 7
Sound: 7.5
Battery Life: 7
Software: 9
OEM Support: 10 (considering the upcoming upgrade)
Price: 10
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/A6lMI
Official Website: http://www.gretel.cc/en/product/a9
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the GRETEL website.
Gretel A9
Hello everyone
I'm really hoping someone can help me. I recently purchased a Gretel A9 and seemed to be working ok. Then one day the google chrome app opened itself and directed to a website aibcoo.cc (or something like that) and suddenly a second settings app has appeared on the phone (calling itself v7.0), with the name as com.comona.bac. I have learned that this is a virus and no matter how many times I uninstall it, it will always return. After many hours of googling I eventually flashed the firmware with what was advertised as stock rom. However in doing so, I have lost my back and home buttons from the screen and my themes app will not recognise the internet and therefore will not work.
I am hoping somebody has different firmware that I could use to revert the phone back to the way it was. I also hope somebody would know how to remove the virus also. Please help me as I have a half functioning phone right now Thanks in advance to those who take the time to read this and who help me! Much appreciated!
mondeo91 said:
Hello everyone
I'm really hoping someone can help me. I recently purchased a Gretel A9 and seemed to be working ok. Then one day the google chrome app opened itself and directed to a website aibcoo.cc (or something like that) and suddenly a second settings app has appeared on the phone (calling itself v7.0), with the name as com.comona.bac. I have learned that this is a virus and no matter how many times I uninstall it, it will always return. After many hours of googling I eventually flashed the firmware with what was advertised as stock rom. However in doing so, I have lost my back and home buttons from the screen and my themes app will not recognise the internet and therefore will not work.
I am hoping somebody has different firmware that I could use to revert the phone back to the way it was. I also hope somebody would know how to remove the virus also. Please help me as I have a half functioning phone right now Thanks in advance to those who take the time to read this and who help me! Much appreciated!
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I have two ROMs for it + TWRP: https://unibari-my.sharepoint.com/:...1PhKRPkgyzGpIBytfK0o8lKLQQGHOVcHSXWw?e=nzrum9
The OSHIYAMA ROM is untested but, based on the properties, should be compatible with the A9 (same codename, and if you search for photos you will see that it is almost identical)
TWRP Success but no custom rom
Hello
So TWRP worked! Thank you so much! I had viper os installed on my sdcard and tried to install that but it failed. Can you recommend any custom rom that I could install instead and where I would be able to source the rom and how exactly I would go about installing it on the phone? Thank you so much for all your help! I'm so grateful for everything!
mondeo91 said:
Hello
So TWRP worked! Thank you so much! I had viper os installed on my sdcard and tried to install that but it failed. Can you recommend any custom rom that I could install instead and where I would be able to source the rom and how exactly I would go about installing it on the phone? Thank you so much for all your help! I'm so grateful for everything!
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No i am sorry but i have no custom ROMs for it. I have manually removed the viruses from the Stock ROM before giving it to one of my family members.
Try to flash that OSHIYAMA ROM first, it may be clean from viruses. If it is still infected, then remove all infected APKs using TWRP.
Gretel A9
Alberto96 said:
No i am sorry but i have no custom ROMs for it. I have manually removed the viruses from the Stock ROM before giving it to one of my family members.
Try to flash that OSHIYAMA ROM first, it may be clean from viruses. If it is still infected, then remove all infected APKs using TWRP.
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Thank you. If I remove the sdcard while TWRP is turned on in the phone will that cause any problems? If I turn off the phone and then go to switch it on will it automatically boot into TWRP or how do I get it back into TWRP? Sorry for all the questions, I'm new to all this!
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If I turn off the phone and then go to switch it on will it automatically boot into TWRP or how do I get it back into TWRP?
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You need to turn it on in recovery mode via the usual procedure (volume up + power).
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If I remove the sdcard while TWRP is turned on in the phone will that cause any problems?
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No.
Google- error communicating with the server
Success! I now have a virus free phone, running on lineage os 14.1-20170518-unofficial-AC55HE, Android version 7.1.2.
However I now have a major problem, I cannot access the google play store. I try and add my gmail account and receive a message "error communicating with the servers, please try again later". I have googled and attempted some way to fix this, clearing and deleting all google data and cache and rebooting with no luck. I attempted various internet connections again no luck. I tired flashing with GAPPS- did not work, received an error about an ? MD5 file missing. Tried installing an apk file but came back as corrupt and unable to install. So I'm at a complete loss, have an amazing virus free phone but with no apps! Has anybody any idea how to fix this? Please! Any suggestions/solutions would be extremely welcome! Thanks for taking the time to read this and hopefully help!
Camera not working
Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help please?! I have the viperos installed on my Gretel a9 phone but am having a slight problem. I cannot record videos on my phone. The camera sometimes works but when I click into the video record option the camera flashes an error and closes. Does anyone know how to fix this? All advice welcomed!
DOOGEE S60
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Specs:
Dimensions: 81 x 164 x 15.5 mm
Weight: 286 g
Chassis: Rugged
SoC: MediaTek MT6757CD (Helio P25)
CPU: ARM Cortex-A53, 4x2600 MHz, Cores: 8
GPU: ARM Mali-T880 MP2 1000MHz, Cores: 2
Network: 4G Cat.6 (300MBps) with VoLTE Support
RAM: 6 GB, LPDDR4
Storage: 64 GB
Memory cards: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC
Display: 5.2 in, 1080x1920, IPS
Protection: Gorilla Glass 5
Battery: 5580mAh, Li-Polymer
OS: Android 7.0 Nougat
Back Camera: 5104 x 4092 pixels (21MP), Sony IMX230 Sensor
Front Camera: 3264 x 2448 pixels (8MP), Samsung S5K4H8 Sensor
SIM card: Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby
Wi-Fi: a, b, g, n 2.4GHz/5.0GHz, dual-band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
USB: Micro-USB, 2.0
Bluetooth: 4.0
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS
Other Features: Fingerprint Scanner, Mediatek Pump Express, NFC, Wireless Charging
Colors: Black, Gold, White
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Official Website:
http://www.doogee.cc/detail/ip68-rugged-smartphone/112
Development & Support:
by @Chamelleon : https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/doogee-s60-one-thread-firmware-recovery-t3697563
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Reviews:
My own review: Post #2 & #3
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Review (part 1)
Introduction
This is the DOOGEE S60.
Hardware
Taking the name from the CAT S60, the most powerful rugged device ever made with a thermal camera, the DOOGEE S60 tries to follow, at least in part, the idea of providing decent hardware even in rugged devices. As a result, DOOGEE choose to use a Mediatek Helio P20/25 with 6GB of RAM and 64GB of ROM, with probably everything you can fit in a device, such as NFC and Wireless Charging.
Unboxing
It comes packages in a pretty standard DOOGEE box, i would have expected something different for this kind of device though, with some accessories: 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x 5 to 12V Pump Express USB Charger, 1x Quick Start Guide, 1x Warranty Card, 1x Plastic Screen Protector. 1x Screwdriver with extra screws and the Smartphone (of course). A screen protector is already applied.
When it comes to the design, this is the best rugged device i have ever held in my hands, with no crazy coloured parts or any other weirdness. I got the Black Version and the full-black design looks gorgeous. It is also solid of course as you would expect from an IP68 device, but it isn't perfect, since keys can be pressed too easily (must have been harder).
It is 16.2x8.33x1.52mm, that translated in a single word would mean "big", with a weight of 286g, not too much considering that also non-rugged devices sometimes reach this weight.
On the front side there is a classic flat glass with a FHD IPS panel underneath, with big bezels.
The upper front side features the earpiece, the sensors hole that includes both light and proximity sensors and a front-facing camera. An RGB Notification LED is also here.
Here you can see the LED in action.
As regards the lower front side, there isn't anything at all except a nice-looking DOOGEE logo. On-screen keys are used here.
On the back side there is a world of things, with screws to remove the whole back cover.
The upper rear side of the device features a big Sony IMX230 camera sensor with dual-tone dual-LED flashlight, an hole that seems to be for the secondary microphone and a cover for the SIM-Card/MicroSD area that can be removed with the provided screwdriver. Almost in the center there is the fingerprint scanner that has been cut in the photo ^^.
On the lower rear side there is the NFC/Wireless Charging pad, the supposed stereo speaker grills and some words about the device itself.
Device
Screen
Being the first 5.2 inches smartphone i ever review, i don't know how other panels behave, but the one i found here is pretty good, with excellent color accuracy and an overall nice viewing experience.
The light sensor works reasonably well, and the screen brightness is higher than average.
Viewing Angles are perfect thanks to the flat glass, with no distortion on any side.
Camera
Photos taken using the rear camera, that is a Sony IMX230 (21MP), look just OK, with a low noise level but also low image detail. Consider the number of megapixels, i would have expected some better results.
HDR works pretty good though, with some nice gain in brightness and image detail. Sometimes photos look warmer than usual though.
The Flashlight is pretty powerful and, being dual-tone, is doesn't mess up color accuracy.
Video Recording is a kind of flashback of what happened on the BL7000, videos recorded at 1080p30 show an high level of noise, and this is confusing considering that in photo mode this doesn't happen.
As regards the Front-Camera, it is a wide-angle variant with the same noise level found on the rear camera so photos look a bit noisy.
Audio
Starting from the speaker, it is really important to report that even though DOOGEE declares a Stereo Speaker system, only one of the two holes provides audio so it is clear that there is only one speaker inside unless my unit is faulty.
Anyway, from the single speaker unit the sound is really loud and powerful, probably one of the best i have ever found on a smartphone, with minor distortion at maximum volume.
Both Microphone and Earpiece instead work decently well, with a nice hearing esperience and no single problem while in-call.
GPS
Even though there is an high amount of Metal on this device that could interfere with the GPS Antenna, here it works great, nearly perfect, with excellent accuracy outdoors and impressive accuracy indoors. The signal is stable, and GLONASS is supported.
Indoors on the left, outdoors on the right.
Telephony, Mobile Network & WiFi
The same consideration i made for the GPS Antenna applies here. With full support for European 4G Bands (Band 20 included), i managed to stay connected to my 4G Network everywhere, with even better results compared to my Redmi Note 4. Outstanding results for a Mediatek device.
WiFi Performance is great too. Of course WiFi 5GHz is supported, and i was able to reach the same speed i get on my laptop, the maximum reachable using my VDSL internet connection.
Battery Life
Battery Capacity is slightly disappointing since it doesn't match the declared value, and the amount of missing mAhs isn't low at all. (declared 5580mAh, real ~4970mAh)
Battery Life is still good though, considering the power-hungry SOC, a result of 15h and 7min using the PCMark Battery Test isn't bad at all. (WiFi on, minimum brightness, Sync on)
Thanks to the Mediatek Pump Express charger, it is possible to recharge the battery completely is more or less 2 hours (as long as you keep the device cold of course), but it reaches a maximum of 9V even though the Charger is made to reach up to 12V.
Last but not least, Wireless Charging. Working just fine with a wireless charger i have here, made for Samsung devices.
Software
Similar to most DOOGEE devices released in the past few months, also this one runs on DOOGEE OS based on Android 7.0 Nougat. Basically, it is a slightly skinned OS with a custom launcher that i recommend to replace. Except Xender and Zello, there isn't any bloatware preinstalled and both apps can be uninstalled/disabled.
The OS runs pretty smooth with no lags at all (excluding the launcher), and the Toolbox app is also pretty useful to use all features included with the device.
Just like most Mediatek devices, also this one features the usual set of features such as Gestures, Double tap-to-wake and MiraVision.
All kinds of sensors are here, including a Barometer.
No malwares detected using Malware-Bytes Anti-Malware.
The fingerprint scanner is another thing that requires heavy optimization on this device, it is accurate and fast when it works, but it frequently stops recognizing fingerprints even while the screen is on (as you can notice in the video).
Benchmarks
I am sorry for all of you readers but i have to say goodbye to the good and old Vellamo Mobile Benchmark, it doesn't upload anymore results to the server thus, i guess, it has been discontinued 4ever. RIP Vellamo.
I have used 3DMark, AndroBench, Antutu Benchmark, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 4, GFXBench, PCMark (Work 2.0, Computer Vision, Storage & Work 1.0) and PassMark PerformanceTest to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – A FHD screen isn't the best for the GPU used in this SOC, so results might not look that high. Still, i would have expected way worse results.
AndroBench – Excellent internal storage performance, probably the maximum reachable on this SOC.
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmark, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Epic Citadel – Not buttery smooth frame-rate, but still over 30fps that is the minimum required for a decent gaming experience.
GeekBench – It is nice to see that Mediatek CPUs are gradually reaching previous gen Qualcomm ones, but single-core performance still requires lots of work from the company. Multi-core performance is pretty good though.
CPU
Compute
GFXBench – Almost impressed by the results provided here, i got way worse results in the past even on more powerful devices. Interesting.
PCMark – Just some standard scores, maybe i would have expected an higher storage score considering the AndroBench result, but it is still good.
Work 2.0
Computer Vision
Storage
Work 1.0
PassMark PerformanceTest – I don't have any other devices tested with this new-entry benchmark, as a start, use this results just for reference.
Conclusions
DOOGEE S60, a device full of great features and powered by some great hardware, but the software requires lots of work to get the maximum from the hardware. The potential is here, it just needs to be unlocked.
Excluding the software, the device is well-made, a good example of how a rugged device should be designed with no weird parts that would make the device look like a toy. Still, this is not for everyone, since you must have specific needs to choose this device instead of a classical more portable one.
So, do i recommend it? Well, as long as you can wait for some camera fixes or just don't mind about camera quality, then yes, definitely recommended.
Pros:
Excellent WiFi and 4G Performance
Outstanding GPS Accuracy
Solid and well-made
Good IPS Panel
Complete of all kinds of sensors
Cons:
Battery Capacity doesn't match the declared value
Both cameras require heavy software optimizations
Only one side of the speaker grills is actually working
A bit too easy-to-press HW keys
Sleepy (or freezy) fingerprint scanner
Rating: 8.3
Packaging and Accessories: 8.5
Design and Materials: 10
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 9.5
Screen: 9
Camera: 6.5
Sound: 8
Battery Life: 8
Software: 7
OEM Support: 8
Price: 8.5
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: https://imgur.com/a/yVI76
Official Website: http://www.doogee.cc/detail/ip68-rugged-smartphone/112
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the DOOGEE website.
There is one speaker only
Unfortunately, the doogee's autopsy shows that on the back there is one speaker only. And some people have problem with it: sometimes it begin to produce the sound like if it has water inside. After you open the back tamp for sim-cards or one of the rubber ramps, it normalize. But in few time it can repeat. Several people are complaining about this. ..
Oksi said:
Unfortunately, the doogee's autopsy shows that on the back there is one speaker only. And some people have problem with it: sometimes it begin to produce the sound like if it has water inside. After you open the back tamp for sim-cards or one of the rubber ramps, it normalize. But in few time it can repeat. Several people are complaining about this. ..
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So mine isn't faulty then, but I don't have the "water" issue.
This seem a very solid device. I am going to see more reviews about this one as i´m needing a very solid phone
@Alberto96 which model of wireless charger did you use? I tried a couple of chargers but the phone seems not able to comply with the communication protocols or something along the line: the charging process starts and then stops a few seconds later. Thanks!!
pittapittae said:
@Alberto96 which model of wireless charger did you use? I tried a couple of chargers but the phone seems not able to comply with the communication protocols or something along the line: the charging process starts and then stops a few seconds later. Thanks!!
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iVoler MPA-WFC-000012, it is an high-power model.
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iVoler MPA-WFC-000012, it is an high-power model.
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Thank you! And you didn't see any drop of connection with the pad during the charging right? Did you charge it for some time? Just asking before jumping on the "buy" button!
sar value
can you tell me the sar value of s60? seems it's impossible to find it ! thanks
Hi, great in depth review!thanks a lot. Can you some post pictures of the inside of the Doogee S60 (motherboard, chipset etc.).
Maatje said:
Hi, great in depth review!thanks a lot. Can you some post pictures of the inside of the Doogee S60 (motherboard, chipset etc.).
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Don't want to mess its IP68 certification e.e
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Don't want to mess its IP68 certification e.e
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Okay, that's understandable.
I was curious about the inside and motherboard.
I read some people experience problems with the wireless charging. I thought maybe a view on the innards could help identify the problem.
I wondered what wireless charging standard is used (QI? PMA? Multiple standards?) and if it is implemented in the p25 chip, or is there a separate chip for that.
Verstuurd vanaf mijn D5803 met Tapatalk
Hi guys,
please, can you (somebody) tested Bluetooth? Do it work with bluetooth headset, car-radio with handsfree, BL speaker without any issue? Music play and telephone call is smoothly without chopping.
And what is specification for wireless charging?
Thank you
winco206 said:
Hi guys,
please, can you (somebody) tested Bluetooth? Do it work with bluetooth headset, car-radio with handsfree, BL speaker without any issue? Music play and telephone call is smoothly without chopping.
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I have used it with Sony MDR-1000X bluetooth headphones and Inateck Bluetooth dongle (call capable, can plug wired headphones in to make them bluetooth headphones). Everything works just fine.
winco206 said:
And what is specification for wireless charging?
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Qi wireless chargers are compatible. I have tested this on both Raynic and RavPower Qi charging pads. One tip is that placement should be with the NFC area on the charging pad, not the centre of the phone (so it will sit slightly 'high' on the pad). I noticed that the display keeps turning on and off and thought this was to do with charging. It's not - it's to do with the oversensitive fingerprint reader (thanks to another post I read for the clue). It does get warm, though the metal case should help dissispate the heat (and is probably why it feels so warm as conduction is better).
HTH.
This device replaces a Blackview BV6000 for me, which had a couple of issues too many (firmware updates, USB OTG & proximity sensor).
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What app are you using to show that it has an IR blaster? This is the one thing above all others this phone is missing (maybe it's not?!).
And I agree that the buttons are a little too easy to press and the fingerprint sensor is too sensitive when you don't want it to be and not sensitive enough when you do. It also only seems to recognise the first finger I set up, any further ones do not work (so much for using it left-handed).
H.
Huey said:
What app are you using to show that it has an IR blaster? This is the one thing above all others this phone is missing (maybe it's not?!).
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That's DevCheck, but I completely forgot to say that it is just a "false alarm" xD
thanks for your answer.
I have problem to choose Xiaomi redmi note 4 Global version or Doogee S60.
I want rugged phone but I dont have to have it. Doogee S60 is very good phone, CPU speed, RAM capacity and more, but is large and heavy. However Xiaomi have official distributors in the Europe (Slovakia) so waranty are notproblem. Doogee's waranty is problem.
What is your opinion.
winco206 said:
thanks for your answer.
I have problem to choose Xiaomi redmi note 4 Global version or Doogee S60.
I want rugged phone but I dont have to have it. Doogee S60 is very good phone, CPU speed, RAM capacity and more, but is large and heavy. However Xiaomi have official distributors in the Europe (Slovakia) so waranty are notproblem. Doogee's waranty is problem.
What is your opinion.
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Nobody can answer that but yourself. If you like the specs of the Xiaomi better, then you have the benefit of the European warranty. If the S60 is more tempting, you take a chance with warranty :fingers-crossed: but the phone does not cost as much as a flagship...
I'm in Europe and I bought the S60
winco206 said:
thanks for your answer.
I have problem to choose Xiaomi redmi note 4 Global version or Doogee S60.
I want rugged phone but I dont have to have it. Doogee S60 is very good phone, CPU speed, RAM capacity and more, but is large and heavy. However Xiaomi have official distributors in the Europe (Slovakia) so waranty are notproblem. Doogee's waranty is problem.
What is your opinion.
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It depends on your needs. In my opinion, Qualcomm-based devices are always superior, so, if you don't need a rugged device, then go for the Xiaomi.
thank you guys. Finaly, I take Xiaomi note 4X (global). Performance is same like a S60 (cca) but CPU is Qualcomm not MediaTek and cost is 150€ less.
Hi There,
HT70 seems to be one of the best Battery Phone for 170$/150€ price tag.
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I received some days ago and i'm able to give you my thoughts:
5.99 "HD +, Mediatek MT6750T 1.5Ghz, 4Gb Ram 64Gb storage, Android 7.0, Cam IMX135 13Mp + 2mp secondary (not specified) + Flash dual led and front 8Mp, 10000mAh, Type-C, Led Notification, OTG, GPS Glonass , Dual Band Wifi, Gyroscope + Compass.
Bundle
Very compact package for this HOMTOM HT70, does not reveal the brick inside ... matte black box containing the phone, the English manuals, the USB Type-C Red cable, the OTG Type-C USB-A cable (Also for Reverse Charge), a Transparent Silicone Case, an additional plastic protection for the front glass, the 9V 3A charger with EU socket and a Type-C adapter to 3.5mm headphone jack. As mentioned the charger is 9V 3A and allows a complete charge of the 10000mAh integrated battery in about 3 hours 30 minutes.
Design, Display, Materials, Ergonomics, Keys, Performance
Good use of materials for the price range of the device, the frame is in metal and the back in plastic with a "reflective" effect like the Honor 8 (holds the fingerprints), 2.5D rounded front glass and 5.99 "18: 9 display with resolution HD + 720x1440 and about 268ppi Very cumbersome and bulky (165x77x14.4mm approximately for weight 310g), although heavy it seems to be balanced in handling.
At the top right of the headset there is a notification LED, hiding screen keys (with the possibility of customizing the back and multitasking position) and rear fingerprint reader moved to the left with respect to the dual camera. The MT6750T CPU with a Nougat stock ROM guarantees fair performance and usability of all contents.
The rear fingerprint reader is just a touch (no physical), you have to make a hand a little bit, since the position is not really natural for the right hand.
The 5.99 "screen proves to be a discrete IPS LCD unit, HD + resolution and has a density of 268 ppi. Good color rendering (customizable in various aspects with Miravision) unfortunately , no rounded corners as we have seen in the least screen 18: 9.
Volume and Power keys on the left, tray for two Sims (NANO format) on the right hybrid 2in1 (by renouncing the second sim you can use a MicroSD).
Memory, Battery, Sensors, Reception and Audio
The memory cut for this Homtom HT70 is equal to 4Gb Ram + 64Gb Storage, possibility of expansion with MicroSD (up to 128Gb definitely supported) renouncing the use of the second sim.
The battery is performing very well and allows records in terms of lasting, (at least 13 hours of screen, allowing about 3 days of intensive use mixed WiFi + 4G).
the sensors are complete and we have Sensor Brightness, Proximity, Accelerometer, Gyroscope and Compass .. the Type-C port has OTG compatibility.
The telephone reception is of good quality, stable 4G hookup with the tested some carriers, audio quality of the headset capsule and the speaker (placed in the lower left frame), more than discrete, very high volumes and good range of frequencies. The presence of the Dual Band Wifi 2.4 and 5Ghz is interesting.
FM radio present using type-c adapter and headphones (not supplied).
Photos and Videos
The rear camera sensor is Sony IMX135 f / 2.8 13Mp (interpolated to 16Mp), focus of the previous generation (not PDAF), good quality of the day shots, even if the focal aperture does not help; the photos enabling the HDR function lead to a good dynamic range, but the very clear areas appear during the shooting of purple (the shot is still good). Video side is the FullHD at 30fps. Only the dual LED flash is sufficient, which in any case helps in the dark. The yield in critical lighting conditions is very poor .. both for focusing and for details ..
The front camera is an 8Mp F / 2.4 module, the results are more than discrete for all uses.
Final Considerations
it HT70 the Battery Phone of the year?
Let's say that this Homtom HT70 does not reach excellence in anything in particular, it combines an old-fashioned cpu with the new "fashion" 18: 9 form factor, but it does it trying to keep the price low and adding the Type-C that in the price range to is proposed, do not mind.
Obviously we can not expect miracles, both for the nature of the Homtom itself, and for the price range.
An honest terminal, for those looking for a robust terminal and to bring with them without worries in case of distance from the socket.
The price that varies between € 150 and € 180 based on the shop, puts it in the low-end market ... and take those figures a 6 "HD with 4 + 64Gb of memory and 10000mAh battery, is not to be underestimated .
PROs:
- 10Ah HUGE battery
- Low price range for 4GB of Ram and 64GB of storage.
- Design and excellent construction.
- 6 "HD + 18: 9, 2.5D glass with Gorilla Glass protection with good characteristics.
- Good support of 4G, including B20 (there are also other bands for USA / World) and good Audio.
- Package Contents, Extra Film and Silicone Case, OTG Type-C Adapter and Type-C Jack 3.5mm ..
- Off-screen gestures and various personalizations included in the ROM.
- Wifi both at 2.4Ghz and at 5ghz.
- Rear fingerprint reader, LED notification, OTG compatibility.
- GPS with good accuracy and quick fix
- Compass and Gyroscope
CONs
- Resolution is "only" HD + that maybe is poor for a 5.99 " screen.
- Cpu is an old gen, perhaps the use of a P23 would have been more appropriate.
- Very heavy and cumbersome (it's pretty normal for a 10000mAh 6 inches screen).
- No 3.5mm audio jack and need to use the adapter type-c (provided)
- Secondary rear camera for "bokeh" is useless (software effect)
Some reviews :
English:
https://youtu.be/LvK8rOaACJM
https://youtu.be/cXsaU4bgeBk
German
https://youtu.be/SuUh2zT9ezM
Italian
https://youtu.be/MP6nYSezvlI
Versus
Ht70 vs p10000
https://youtu.be/gHDTBDfqzZ8
Ht70 vs Redmi Note 5
https://youtu.be/xVPASHq0ywo
How to root this monster?
dcoelho said:
How to root this monster?
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It seems that a custom recovery TWRP was compliled and with the help of Magisk, you can have root. Please check :
https://www.stupdroid.com/2018/06/HOMTOM-HT70-root-twrp.html
P. S. I'm not responsible for any damage or brick, the guide was not tested.
I already tried but seams to be impossible to unlock bootloader of the monster.
I have flashed the TWRP recovery with spFlash tools with no problems but after reboot the stock recovery is always present.
I am throwing this as an open question to everybody here!
I have checked the firmware of HomTom HT70 MTK ROM structure. (Maybe I am a bit outdated, but based on all previous "old "MTK firmware that I have "modified" , I am familiar with them). In this stock newer HT70 ROMs there included a duplicates file e.g."recovery-verified" or "boot-verified" whereas in the older ROMs there are only "recovery" or "boot" image files. I have checked on SPFlashTool either one of these will be read as normal e.g if in one ROM there is only "recovery-verified" or "boot-verified" without the "recovery" or "boot" files it will be loaded as normal. I have checked on a Lenovo ROM K9-Lite there are only "recovery-verified" or "boot-verified" files and the SPFT load it all the same.
Now what if we modified the structure to load only the "recovery" or "boot", etc (without the "-verified") and change the stock recovery to TWRP? (this is what I usually do with my ROMs). Will the TWRP recovery stick? Normally with my Lenovo ROMs after a full reflash with stock revovery substituted with TWRP recovery , I could immediately boot into TWRP and there is no trace of the stock recovery accept for the function of "power & vol+ button".my I will be receiving HT70 sometime towards the end of August. ( got it at USD 128) and as usual will immediately root an install TWRP (all my 11pcs personal Androids have TWRP +rooted)My main worry is what is contained in the "trustzone.bin"??
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Keep us posted whatever you try
Please try it and post here your results.
hi i try it and dont work bootloop and reflash stock firmware with sp flash tool
I want to root this phone please how to make this?
^Stand in the line buddy, you're not the only one
Yes . The litlle monster is a hard one.
hi Any new news about the root?
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I just got my HT70 and had already reflashed it 5 times in order to find a method to flash TWRP recovery. But I got my phone with a flaw it doesnt respond to recovery using Vol+Power buttons and it always shows a blank screen out of the box.
But a word of CAUTION here! There are many claims to TWRP for "HOM TOM HT70" from TWRP 3.1 to TWRP 3.2.2 and I found out the hard way when I tried to flash the 3.2.2 version that it was a dud. It got my HT70 into a frozen state stuck at boot up screen forever even its size is questionable the stock is 12k but the TWRP 3.2.2 is 16k normally difference in size are 15-25% only. So be careful what you try to flash on your device.
But I have unlocked the bootloader successfully and I can confirm it is permanent even after a reflash of the ROM (using "download" , I have not done an "upgrade" reflash after unlocked in SPFLashTool)but you will have a slightly "dirty" boot up screen with " Orange State - Your device has been unlocked and cant be trusted" message written on "HOMTOM" colored boot up logo. (lucky thing it is in a very tiny font).
The best I can think of doing is temporary reboot into TWRP without flashing(if you found the correct one) and doing your operations from TWRP and after reboot it is back to stock recovery. ( Oh! wait I cant even access my stock recovery!)
I did all my operation on Win 10 Pro x64 using Windows PowerShell (Admin) - less headache. I found my \adb folder somewhere in my C:\Users\**yourname**\adb\ and since Windows PowerShell (Admin) defaults to C: Windows\system 32\, I copied the adb folder into that address and as you can see all my commands were executed from there. ( the reason I used PowerShell (Admin) is because it is an elevated privilaged command and on some occasion using normal PowerShell it will request for an Admin privilage.
If you are having problems "boot unlocking" (seems like the PC is waiting on you and you waiting on PC) assuming that you got everything correct upto "fastboot oem unlock" and hit enter. You actually have to immediately press the "Vol +" button. and within a split second it is unlocked permanently.
I even managed to flash recovery but it was a dud. I am really puzzled as to all this prolifiration of TWRP recovery supposedly for HT70 because the model was only launched in April then suddenly by June/July there were many claims that they had TWRP ported to HT70 already. Based my other MTK unlocked/no lock bootloader models especially my favorite Lenovos it will take at least a few month for a dedicated modder to mod a TWRP recovery (that is if he happens to buy the same model as us and he has free time) Please remember HT70 is a 4Gb/64Gb MTK 6750T model and if I am not wrong, there arent many 6750T 4Gb/64Gb models floating around and 6750 and 6750T would require different version of TWRP.
I would have to ask my MTK specialist friends to see whether they are willing to help out. But nobody is working on TWRP as far that I know.If you still insist then try a temporary boot into TWRP rather than flashing these questionable TWRP (especially if the website is based in India).
If you trying to flash or just reboot or flash anything on your gadget , please ignore other forum advise that you copy the "recovery.img" or "**.img" into the same folder i.e. in ":\adb" folder it will give you error message [ cannot load '**.img' : No such file or directory ]. For me to make it simple I copied whatever *.img file onto my root D:\ directory and there immediately got no error message. Thats all folks! I will visit again when I have an actual working TWRP and root methodoloy in the future hopefully somebody would beat me to it.
My observation of the performance of HT70 thus far. After 1 week of heavy usage of device the battery lifespan seems to be getting shorter. Standby is reasonable for an active gadget (I guess my daughters Lenovo Tab A8-A5500 can last longer in standby mode than my touted HT70 almost 3 weeks in sleep mode with instant on at that).
The camera really, really sucks : in room 10 feet away from a window in broad daylight (of course at 10 feet away it gets darker - low light but not to the point that you have switch on the light, at worst it is "romantic") I want to take the picture of my 3 months old grandaughter lying on the bed and it was so "grainy" using the native camera app that it was unusable. But picture is alrite in outside the house. Even my 6 year old Lenovo 8Mp camera have not captured a low light picture so grainy that it is unusable even at night without flash.
But then I installed my favorite Open source camera "Open Camera" (I always installed a second camera app on my gadget)and the picture quality significantly improved without the grainy effect that I got using the native MTK camera app. So I guess it was the MTK app that played a significant role in the poor camera performance. have not tried any other special effects camera yet.
It is best for you to place your replacement battery order ASAP with its Charger also. Have you notice that it doesnt conform to any USB C fixed charger specs. It is a 9V /3.3A power behemoth. The USB 1/2/3/C all calls for a 5V supply for fixed voltage charger only variable voltage chargers have different specs. Your power banks, after market USB chargers, PC (intelligent) USB outputs would have a tough time coping up. And tough times means you run the risk of premature death of your PC USB port , USB, chargers, Power Banks not to mention the slow charging up time. The current standard charger can charge the HT70 to 100% from <5% in 1.5- 2hours. In case of emergency your best bet is to use your PC USB port.
And my assumption is correct you can or should remove from you ROM all files with "**.verified" into a temp folder out from the main ROM and flashed without problems. And when you have found out the correct TWRP find a way to root it first and in the "build.prop" of the HT70 delete the last entry line as it contains a reference to the stock recovery with this line
"ro.expect.recovery_id= 0x5c4eb26c22b2e0939f468197a33940618b8e170200000000000000000000000" it expects to read the recovery signature everytime it reboots! I have a copy of the "build.prop" that I was able to extract. But unable to do much until I can root it successfully. Feel free to check out the "build.prop"
I am thinking of getting this monster device. It seems to have good performance and a strong battery. If it has the google feeds then I won't need to root, these days I only root to get the feeds and that's it.
^What feeds are you referring to?
ashafura said:
I am thinking of getting this monster device. It seems to have good performance and a strong battery. If it has the google feeds then I won't need to root, these days I only root to get the feeds and that's it.
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I belief what he is referring to is it Google compliant.
Yes, it is a "world" ROM. "ROW" - Rest of World" ROM rather than CN(China) ROM. What heck would anybody wanna buy a gadget with CN ROM when you are outside of China, I am puzzled? If you ordered online then clearly you had been scammed , if you come across a model that is not available on AliExpress (a reliable yardstick that the model is either Google compliant or if the seller scammed you that a ROW ROM is available somewhere). There are models that is CN only and no matter how much mod you do (a bastardised ROM that have some Google apps but non functional) will not get you YouTube, Playstore to function. Dont be fooled by the price, there is always a catch. Example 2Gb / 32 Gb specs for less than the price of those memory chip and it actually turns out 1Gb/8Gb. Have seen those on local online store with customer screaming murder at the seller. Guess people are suckers from their own stupidity. Experience makes you wiser. I bought many years ago a Lenovo A880/A889 with a bastardise ROM and when it boot up it welcome users in Chinese it set up as China Unicom model but that model has a version with a barely Google ROW ROM (Gmail,Google Search, Playstore, non functional YouTube) that I managed to stitched together with a Russian modder but it took us 2 month. Never again!
So far no one click root is able to root HT70. I have tried nearly all of the known One-click-Root on Android or on PC (result from the same root prgram on PC can vary. Like a device I currently owned it cannot root using the PC version but successfully rooted using the "***.apk" bear that in mind.)
This is the list :
VRoot.apk(MgyunRoot.apk/Romastersu)
KingoRoot.apk/PCversion
KingRoot.apk/PC version
Framaroot.apk
360Root.apk
RootMaster.apk
UnversalAndroot.apk
BaiduRoot.apk
UniversalAndroot.apk
At least these are the only root app from China that I dare to install the rest I'll pass!
Need to write up a script to install using ADB exploit.
Cant live without root!
cracktech said:
I belief what he is referring to is it Google compliant.
Yes, it is a "world" ROM. "ROW" - Rest of World" ROM rather than CN(China) ROM. What heck would anybody wanna buy a gadget with CN ROM when you are outside of China, I am puzzled? If you ordered online then clearly you had been scammed , if you come across a model that is not available on AliExpress (a reliable yardstick that the model is either Google compliant or if the seller scammed you that a ROW ROM is available somewhere). There are models that is CN only and no matter how much mod you do (a bastardised ROM that have some Google apps but non functional) will not get you YouTube, Playstore to function. Dont be fooled by the price, there is always a catch. Example 2Gb / 32 Gb specs for less than the price of those memory chip and it actually turns out 1Gb/8Gb. Have seen those on local online store with customer screaming murder at the seller. Guess people are suckers from their own stupidity. Experience makes you wiser. I bought many years ago a Lenovo A880/A889 with a bastardise ROM and when it boot up it welcome users in Chinese it set up as China Unicom model but that model has a version with a barely Google ROW ROM (Gmail,Google Search, Playstore, non functional YouTube) that I managed to stitched together with a Russian modder but it took us 2 month. Never again!
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Are you saying the HT70 is CN based rom and not Stock Android? I am not talking about the Google Compliant, From the videos it appears that it is running stock android, or looks like stock android. I like Stock android especially the launcher, I only root phones now just to get the Pixel Experience. If this has the Swipe Left too Google Feeds then i'll go for it. I am currently using Leagoo T5c and it does everything. Had to unroot and stick to Lawnchair, though the Lawnfeed needs root to give me what I need, but I will manage for now. Hometome is my next Gadget. Jumia in Nigeria has made it easy to buy stuffs only and the return policy makes it interesting.
Actually, you swipe to the right in order to get to the panel that's on the left, and there is Google Assistant and feed, yes. Swiping to the left reveals right-side panels with randomly scattered app icons.
I just wanted to say that I didn't see any updates, but now I checked manually and there's a June patch available.