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Console emulators on Shield

I really look forward to test different emus on the Shield: PSX, SNES and GBA. IMHO Shield will be the ultimate retro gaming machine without the need to hack/jailbreak it.

I will want root just to see how much we can push that tegra 4 and sixaxis controller app needs root to work.. since its got HDMI out on it, I can connect it to my TV in my room, sync the PS3 remote and game on!
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Hm. Why won't just buy Ouya? For me portability is more important, so I'm jist planning to play on the Shield screen.
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chortya said:
Hm. Why won't just buy Ouya? For me portability is more important, so I'm jist planning to play on the Shield screen.
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Because shield is way more powerful than OUYA perhaps?
Shields A15 core vs OUYAs A9 gives a huge boost in performance, the Shield is clocked higher and has way more GPU cores.
Someone will probably root the Shield pretty damn quick, sixaxis probably wont be a problem.

chortya said:
Hm. Why won't just buy Ouya? For me portability is more important, so I'm jist planning to play on the Shield screen.
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i wouldn't recommend an ouya to anyone right now as its a total joke. and unless boxer8 opens it up its less hackable then my GNII

glitchhawk said:
i wouldn't recommend an ouya to anyone right now as its a total joke. and unless boxer8 opens it up its less hackable then my GNII
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I love my ouya. Dubwars, No Brakes Valet, Stalagflight, Polarity, and more really good games.
Also, if you enjoy local multiplayer games, you can't go wrong with the Ouya.

I own pretty much all of the emulators robert broglia developed and those are the main reason I want a shield. I also have the oid emulators but they are pretty old and not really supported anymore. This will be the best handheld emulating machine out there.
I can't wait to see how it runs playstation and N64 games.

Evo_Shift said:
I own pretty much all of the emulators robert broglia developed and those are the main reason I want a shield. I also have the oid emulators but they are pretty old and not really supported anymore. This will be the best handheld emulating machine out there.
I can't wait to see how it runs playstation and N64 games.
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My old Nexus 7 (tegra 3) ran PSX and N64 games PERFECTLY with a PS3 controller. This is a tegra 4. It will MURDER any emulator you throw at it.

Evo_Shift said:
I own pretty much all of the emulators robert broglia developed and those are the main reason I want a shield. I also have the oid emulators but they are pretty old and not really supported anymore. This will be the best handheld emulating machine out there.
I can't wait to see how it runs playstation and N64 games.
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This x 9999
I can't wait!

chortya said:
I really look forward to test different emus on the Shield: PSX, SNES and GBA. IMHO Shield will be the ultimate retro gaming machine without the need to hack/jailbreak it.
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I've been playing around with my roomates shield. It has some weird problems with emulators. For instance, the "Y" button is the menu key in android. So whenever I try to bind it to something in an emulator it opens the "menu" of the app instead. Not sure how to fix it.

PR0XIDIAN said:
I've been playing around with my roomates shield. It has some weird problems with emulators. For instance, the "Y" button is the menu key in android. So whenever I try to bind it to something in an emulator it opens the "menu" of the app instead. Not sure how to fix it.
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For Super GNES, pressing Y doesn't trigger the menu by default.
but upon touching the menu soft button on the screen & pressing Y whilst in the menu, closes the menu.

chaind said:
For Super GNES, pressing Y doesn't trigger the menu by default.
but upon touching the menu soft button on the screen & pressing Y whilst in the menu, closes the menu.
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That's called a "fallback". If the app isn't catching it when you're trying to assign the button, they somehow really messed up the app.
Fallback occurs when an app doesn't handle a button press. For instance, pressing B falls back to BACK if an app doesn't support the B button. Most controller-based apps do, though... :-/

The more I play the more a realize that there seems to be a slight audio delay in basically any emulator I use. The video quality is great, no stuttering or anything, but it seems like the audio is delayed like a fraction of a second on everything. Like in mega man on nes I push jump and he does the complete jump then I hear the sound or if I shoot the gun the sound comes after the bullet is halfway between his weapon and the edge of the screen.
In the SNES emulator I have tried there seems to be delay. I tested that in contra 3 using weapons.
In mupen64 or supern64 there is a delay which I have noticed playing majora's mask. Swing links weapon and he completes the swing before the weapon makes a sound or if you are running and do a roll, he has completed the roll before you hear the sound.
A quick google search returned a few recent results with similar experiences on various android devices. Anyway, it isn't a deal breaker and I hope it gets sorted at some point.

Evo_Shift said:
The more I play the more a realize that there seems to be a slight audio delay in basically any emulator I use. The video quality is great, no stuttering or anything, but it seems like the audio is delayed like a fraction of a second on everything. Like in mega man on nes I push jump and he does the complete jump then I hear the sound or if I shoot the gun the sound comes after the bullet is halfway between his weapon and the edge of the screen.
In the SNES emulator I have tried there seems to be delay. I tested that in contra 3 using weapons.
In mupen64 or supern64 there is a delay which I have noticed playing majora's mask. Swing links weapon and he completes the swing before the weapon makes a sound or if you are running and do a roll, he has completed the roll before you hear the sound.
A quick google search returned a few recent results with similar experiences on various android devices. Anyway, it isn't a deal breaker and I hope it gets sorted at some point.
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Even on PC emulators, one of their biggest challenges to overcome has been audio lag. Expect this... you're emulating a system.

jadengore said:
Even on PC emulators, one of their biggest challenges to overcome has been audio lag. Expect this... you're emulating a system.
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The shield has REALLY nice speakers. To be honest, any game I'm emulating I've already played on the real version of the console before. (I own almost every classic console). So I just mute it and play music on most emulators. *shrug*

PR0XIDIAN said:
The shield has REALLY nice speakers.
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Doesnt help audio lag in emulators though.

So which acutal emulator apps are you guys using?
I havn't mess with emulation and want to try it out on the shield.

cant wait
This shield is a beast, in antutu benchmark it scored a massive 39,000 and I havent seen any mobile or tablet that scored that high yet, I have ordered mine and cant wait to get my hands on this. But I was wondering does anyone know if this supports any kind of mapping controls

PR0XIDIAN said:
I've been playing around with my roomates shield. It has some weird problems with emulators. For instance, the "Y" button is the menu key in android. So whenever I try to bind it to something in an emulator it opens the "menu" of the app instead. Not sure how to fix it.
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This is a problem if the emulator is just mapping hardware buttons and doesn't understand controllers. I don't think there's a lot you can do in that case (except maybe hope they update the emulator). All the emulators I have installed work fine.

cjzygr said:
So which acutal emulator apps are you guys using?
I havn't mess with emulation and want to try it out on the shield.
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so far the best emulation and control support I found is:
Snes9x EX+
SuperN64
FPse ( the analog triggers wont map) can any1 find a better one? or Free 1?
PPSSPP (some games load but audio and some models are glitched)
and the dolphin emu is in alpha but i get nothing.<<<i would pay money for this one and the psp one
if they get them optimized for shield

RetroArch and Firetv controller stick support

I’ve installed the google play version and it works ok but I cannot seem to use the control stick in the games. There is also a development version of the application on the dev’s site but with that version I cannot seem to even use the controller. I can however see a lot more cores added. Has anyone gotten any success by using the controllers. I like retroarch mainly because all the cores and games are in a single neat place. The only issue I’m having now is the usage of the control stick.

Hopefully they'll have the Retroarch update out soon.
It better have fixed the control issues.

retroben said:
Hopefully they'll have the Retroarch update out soon.
It better have fixed the control issues.
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They have a development update which has lots of cores but does not work with the firetv well at all. its also 110 mb vs the 55 mb of google play

retroben said:
Hopefully they'll have the Retroarch update out soon.
It better have fixed the control issues.
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navigates said:
They have a development update which has lots of cores but does not work with the firetv well at all. its also 110 mb vs the 55 mb of google play
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I made a combined version and the controller stick works with mame 2014 only.
I took the assets folder from the latest version and put it in the google play verison. you have to sign the apk. i used one click signer. prior to the sign. I had zipped up so its a readable archive. So far it works perfectly fine. The sound on sega 16 bit games is also fixed with the additional emulators but the stick does not work. I guess the sitck support is based on the emulators maybe.
also if anyone would need to know, the bose lifestyle has a game mode that reduces delay incase anyone faces that.

Mortal Kombat X Controller support

Does anyone have a sixaxis profile for Mortal Kombat X, or know how to map the Red Samurai controller for the game. The game looks great but I can't connect my PS3 controller or my Red Samurai Controller.
Thanks

dk1keith said:
Does anyone have a sixaxis profile for Mortal Kombat X, or know how to map the Red Samurai controller for the game. The game looks great but I can't connect my PS3 controller or my Red Samurai Controller.
Thanks
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You have it installed on the FTV? I tried on my rooted FTV through the play store using market helper and it still said it was uncompatible.

xm41907 said:
You have it installed on the FTV? I tried on my rooted FTV through the play store using market helper and it still said it was uncompatible.
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I sideloaded it and it seems to work I just can't control it because I can't get the PS3 controller or my Red Samurai controller to work with it. Just using the mouse pad on my keyboard works, but that was just to test it. I need a sixaxis profile, but haven't had any luck finding or making one.

dk1keith said:
I sideloaded it and it seems to work I just can't control it because I can't get the PS3 controller or my Red Samurai controller to work with it. Just using the mouse pad on my keyboard works, but that was just to test it. I need a sixaxis profile, but haven't had any luck finding or making one.
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btw... I am rooted

dk1keith said:
I sideloaded it and it seems to work I just can't control it because I can't get the PS3 controller or my Red Samurai controller to work with it. Just using the mouse pad on my keyboard works, but that was just to test it. I need a sixaxis profile, but haven't had any luck finding or making one.
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None of my devices are compatible, so I can't obtain the apk to sideload.

The only easy way is grabbing it from that one YouTube video,but only with an unlimited money mod.
It used to have an unmodified version,unless it is included still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrmbMHYklw
You would grab the Adreno download since that is the FireTV's GPU.
Be careful if you download on Windows.
The app is free but with IAP,and I really hope the unmodified apk is included.

retroben said:
The only easy way is grabbing it from that one YouTube video,but only with an unlimited money mod.
It used to have an unmodified version,unless it is included still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrmbMHYklw
You would grab the Adreno download since that is the FireTV's GPU.
Be careful if you download on Windows.
The app is free but with IAP,and I really hope the unmodified apk is included.
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That is the one I used and it installed and runs fine. Not sure about the mods though. Can't find a controller to work with it. I don't see how to make a sixaxis profile for it either. Are you using it with a controller?
Thanks

I only have my K400r keyboard which works fine with Goat Simulator for Android including the built-in touchpad for onscreen analog movement.
If only they would fix it by adding gamepad support and ditching the REQUIREMENT of touchscreen controls.
It SHOULD play nearly identical to the console versions (it at least looks nearly as good),but they neglected to support gamepads.

retroben said:
I only have my K400r keyboard which works fine with Goat Simulator for Android including the built-in touchpad for onscreen analog movement.
If only they would fix it by adding gamepad support and ditching the REQUIREMENT of touchscreen controls.
It SHOULD play nearly identical to the console versions (it at least looks nearly as good),but they neglected to support gamepads.
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I'm quite disappointed with Mortal Kombat X. It's nothing like the previous MK games. more of a tap fest than a real fighter. The graphics are awesome though. I don't think I'll waste the space to have it on my FTV.

xm41907 said:
I'm quite disappointed with Mortal Kombat X. It's nothing like the previous MK games. more of a tap fest than a real fighter. The graphics are awesome though. I don't think I'll waste the space to have it on my FTV.
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WTF is wrong with gamedevlopers these days??
they took away THE element of this game and just transported the graphics.
it really feels like they dont know whats about gaming and fun is at all and concentrate only on graphics and senseless effects.
this feeling you have already on the console versions (way to much weapon/magic tricks) but hey still ok thanks to the wast amount of keykombos you gotta learn.
but this android version is just pure garbage. no controllersupport means this game is useless. its effortless blood and magic mania
what a shame, what a waste

bofh999 said:
WTF is wrong with gamedevlopers these days??
they took away THE element of this game and just transported the graphics.
it really feels like they dont know whats about gaming and fun is at all and concentrate only on graphics and senseless effects.
this feeling you have already on the console versions (way to much weapon/magic tricks) but hey still ok thanks to the wast amount of keykombos you gotta learn.
but this android version is just pure garbage. no controllersupport means this game is useless. its effortless blood and magic mania
what a shame, what a waste
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This is more of a card game masquerading as a fighting game. Not bad, if that's the type of game you want to play, but it should be advertised as such.Fighting games are hard on tablet systems such as Android and Ipad. The interface just doesn't work well for multiple button movements. It's lacking the tactile feel of buttons.

bofh999 said:
WTF is wrong with gamedevlopers these days??
they took away THE element of this game and just transported the graphics.
it really feels like they dont know whats about gaming and fun is at all and concentrate only on graphics and senseless effects.
this feeling you have already on the console versions (way to much weapon/magic tricks) but hey still ok thanks to the wast amount of keykombos you gotta learn.
but this android version is just pure garbage. no controllersupport means this game is useless. its effortless blood and magic mania
what a shame, what a waste
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well I'm glad it just wasn't me...I thought there was no way they made this for android and didn't give it any controller support.
Oh well...I guess that's just what they did

[Q] Games on Zenfone 2 (compatibility)

I created this thread so that people can post which games don't work on ZenFone 2, some games don't work because of x86 architecture. Does anyone know of any games that don't work?

Ratedzelaya said:
I created this thread so that people can post which games don't work on ZenFone 2, some games don't work because of x86 architecture. Does anyone know of any games that don't work?
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To be honest, all of the games and apps I have tried have worked without a problem. Even the 3D games like Modern Combat, Nova, Driver, etc.

Ratedzelaya said:
I created this thread so that people can post which games don't work on ZenFone 2, some games don't work because of x86 architecture. Does anyone know of any games that don't work?
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blockheads isn't working for me

cmendonc2 said:
To be honest, all of the games and apps I have tried have worked without a problem. Even the 3D games like Modern Combat, Nova, Driver, etc.
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Yes most of the games do work, I have nova and driver and they play flawlessly. I want to try Ravensword Shadowland but don't know if to buy it because it said the last time it was updated was in 2013. So not sure if it will work.

djvantri1 said:
blockheads isn't working for me
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Yeah, block heads isn't working for me either

Modern combat 4 doesn't work for me
Enviado desde mi ASUS_Z00AD mediante Tapatalk

Pirates (Assassin's Creed) works fine until you go to hunt a whale. Then it freezes... No other problems...

Don't play many games, but I do know hearthstone and xcom work perfectly.

i have chaos ring omega and it doesnt work, hack/cheat tools such as SB Gamehacker and other tools as such doesnt work too, but that could be due to Lollipop.
btw i have chaos ring 3 and it works perfectly

I don't know but, when I run apk with no x86 libs, they run with no problem, because x86 can run the armeabi and armv7 libs. If your game you play isn't running, I think that is compability os problem.

iqbal_mahmuda said:
I don't know but, when I run apk with no x86 libs, they run with no problem, because x86 can run the armeabi and armv7 libs. If your game you play isn't running, I think that is compability os problem.
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Yes, verified with blockheads, downloaded the apk, installed separately from google play and it works fine. Thanks for the tip!

Zenonia series and most rpg's aint working..can anyone confirm..i have Z00AD 4gb

djvantri1 said:
Yes, verified with blockheads, downloaded the apk, installed separately from google play and it works fine. Thanks for the tip!
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Glad that I can help you

iqbal_mahmuda said:
I don't know but, when I run apk with no x86 libs, they run with no problem, because x86 can run the armeabi and armv7 libs. If your game you play isn't running, I think that is compability os problem.
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How do i run the apk without x86 libs?

Do you also have serious stutters in the game Terminator GENISYS revolution ?
Other games like NFS Most Wanted, Hitman Sniper, Relix RUN, NOVA 3 are working better since the last updates.
I am speaking about 550ML version.

cmendonc2 said:
To be honest, all of the games and apps I have tried have worked without a problem. Even the 3D games like Modern Combat, Nova, Driver, etc.
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is PCSX2 working..?

MateenMirza said:
is PCSX2 working..?
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That wont work on any device as the requirements are quite high even nexus 9 is unable to play them smoothly..also the app is in beta stage so..

Ratedzelaya said:
How do i run the apk without x86 libs?
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I think he means that apps that aren't directly compiled against x86 will still work because Intel has collaborated closely with Google on getting x86 to run everything via Houdini ARM emulator. I don't think he meant you can strip apps of x86 libs to get them to run, which was your understanding, correct?

rlaw said:
I think he means that apps that aren't directly compiled against x86 will still work because Intel has collaborated closely with Google on getting x86 to run everything via Houdini ARM emulator. I don't think he meant you can strip apps of x86 libs to get them to run, which was your understanding, correct?
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Ok, I understand now. Most games that didn't run before do work now.

i have installed Relic run, asphalt 8, real cricket 14 from google play store. but cant run the games. real cricket start after 3 mins. relic run doesn't work at all.
please help how to play these games on my device (zenfone 2 ze551ml). i am on 2.20.40.90 version (latest one).

Gaming/Emulating games on the 8 Pro, what's possible?

Happy new year all.
Just thinking of flashing a new ROM and was contemplating what could be possible on current hardware.
The last time I ran a test from top to bottom I hit the ceiling at ps2 emulation but that was dodgy
Anyway, I personally haven't used any of the new emulators for a while so wondered what is currently possible? What have you used? What worked? Or was good?
I know in theory 90% of Wii games should work and everything underneath it, so GameCube, PSP, PSX, N64, Dreamcast, Saturn, 32x, jaguar, arcade, mega drive, SNES, Neogeo.
Any info, ideas, cool stuff,

IMO it all depends on the game.
I play NSMB Wii through dolphin and that works great. But as an example, I can't get Rogue Leader on GC to play on anything except a good GPU on a PC. The Hoth level brings everything to it's knee's and OP8P is no exception.
AetherSX2 is great for PS2 emulation and with a few tweaks seems to play everything very well. I tried shadow of the collosus and Black and both were very playable. Check youtube for how to tweak.
But yea, everything below that seems to work great. Dreamcast, PSP, PS1, Mame. I even managed to get Killer Instinct arcade working throuh retroarch and that worked very well.
You can also play packages for Doom 3 and OG Half Life as well as HL2 and Portal with hacky APK's.

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IMO it all depends on the game.
I play NSMB Wii through dolphin and that works great. But as an example, I can't get Rogue Leader on GC to play on anything except a good GPU on a PC. The Hoth level brings everything to it's knee's and OP8P is no exception.
AetherSX2 is great for PS2 emulation and with a few tweaks seems to play everything very well. I tried shadow of the collosus and Black and both were very playable. Check youtube for how to tweak.
But yea, everything below that seems to work great. Dreamcast, PSP, PS1, Mame. I even managed to get Killer Instinct arcade working throuh retroarch and that worked very well.
You can also play packages for Doom 3 and OG Half Life as well as HL2 and Portal with hacky APK's.
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What's NSMB?
Shadow of the colossus? If that's working then that's really really impressive, that absolutely pushed the ps2 to the limit, the use of fog to keep graphics in memory was genius for it's time and to manage to keep the frames up on ps2 hardware.
Cheers will have a look at that ps2 emulator, nice one.
PS:. I've got a guide on how to run PC games with native files

One of the things i've been using for gaming has been this app https://parsec.app/
Pop it on a PC you game on then log in, change some settings then leave that PC alone.
On a second device, android / mac / or other windows device, download the app from the link and install it.
Log in and you can then control the PC you installed it on in the first place, i have to say that the speed of input is really really good, i was massively impressed by the responsiveness and ability to play through games with minimal setup required.
Few things to change.
Set resolution to 1920x1080
Change network to latency / performance
Change network allowed to max / 50Mb
Renderer - DX11
That should work as expected.

I played some PS2 games on my Huawei P30 Pro already.
For the nature of emulation, not every game works. But everything below PS2 and below WII U is probably very enjoyable. Most emulators are open source and are ported to android anyway.
I would say God of War from PS2 is playable on the 8 Pro.

dladz said:
What's NSMB?
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New Super Mario Bros.... Not particularly taxing game.....

dladz said:
Happy new year all.
Just thinking of flashing a new ROM and was contemplating what could be possible on current hardware.
The last time I ran a test from top to bottom I hit the ceiling at ps2 emulation but that was dodgy
Anyway, I personally haven't used any of the new emulators for a while so wondered what is currently possible? What have you used? What worked? Or was good?
I know in theory 90% of Wii games should work and everything underneath it, so GameCube, PSP, PSX, N64, Dreamcast, Saturn, 32x, jaguar, arcade, mega drive, SNES, Neogeo.
Any info, ideas, cool stuff,
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AetherSX2 Compatibility List - Unofficial
Rules & Guidelines READ THESE Do not add any unrelated materials or delete other users' enteries Follow the template and add all data you can about it. Settings and all help, but please list your fps, device, and version Please keep in mind that the Master List is alphabetical and all enteries s...
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I keep a personal tab for AetherSX2
A demo i did back then
You can find the videos i recorded in AetherSX2's official telegram group

gsser said:
AetherSX2 Compatibility List - Unofficial
Rules & Guidelines READ THESE Do not add any unrelated materials or delete other users' enteries Follow the template and add all data you can about it. Settings and all help, but please list your fps, device, and version Please keep in mind that the Master List is alphabetical and all enteries s...
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I keep a personal tab for AetherSX2
A demo i did back then
You can find the videos i recorded in AetherSX2's official telegram group
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Aye I've just installed it. Runs fine, black and Tiger woods 6