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ZSU1 firm in a XXU1 tablet

New firmware T700ZSU1ANL1 and T800ZSU1ANL1 (Hong Kong both).*
Can i install these in europeans tablets?
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Any ideas?

I have installed it on the US WiFi only version, so I don't see it being a problem, if it doesn't install you can always Odin back to your stock rom... if you have a 3/4g type tablet then you may want to not flash it..... I'm digging the new kernel personally.

Itchiee said:
I have installed it on the US WiFi only version, so I don't see it being a problem, if it doesn't install you can always Odin back to your stock rom... if you have a 3/4g type tablet then you may want to not flash it..... I'm digging the new kernel personally.
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Thanks

I have installed it in european firmware, portuguese one to be exact (FNAB), no issues at all.

Zootopia said:
I have installed it in european firmware, portuguese one to be exact (FNAB), no issues at all.
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I installed, thanks, no issues.

Tavocampana said:
I installed, thanks, no issues.
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Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?

Restorer said:
Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
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Theres an app calplled root cloak to hide root from apps. I dont really care on being on stock rom just to get ota lollipop. There would most liekly be a custom rooted lollipop rom when lollipop is out.

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Theres an app calped root cloak to hide root from apps. I dont really care on being on stock rom just to get ota lollipop. There would most liekly be a custom rooted lollipop rom when lollipop is out.
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Unfortunately none of the cloaking apps work on Sky Go or Barclays and other banking apps. Neither does RootCloak or RootCloak Plus Xposed mods .
That is why I asked the question. Not really bothered if it just means losing OTAs - provided everything else is still 100% official unrooted after Odin upgrade of UK tab with HK firmware. That's why I ask will this be the case?

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Can anyone confirm that flashing update from a different region manually via Odin on an unrooted device will have exactly the same result as if it was an official OTA update (apart maybe from overwriting /data).
So there should be no problem getting OTA Lollipop when it eventually arrives? And apps which check if device is rooted like the banking and TV ones(Barclays, Sky Go etc) should be seeing 100% official unrooted OS?
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I do not know.
My intention when the Lollipop version is released is to repeat the procedure and flash via Odin. I live in Argentina and here things come too late.

Tavocampana said:
I do not know.
My intention when the Lollipop version is released is to repeat the procedure and flash via Odin. I live in Argentina and here things come too late.
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Yeah, I'd do that too. But these apps are too important to me to risk losing them so I will probably just chicken out and wait for the OTA. Thing is, if the update works, I can't see any reason why the root-checking apps would be able to tell except if they were spotting non-UK codes. I do know their checks are a lot more sophisticated than looking only for the presence of SU and busybox. They for sure examine parts of the kernel and the DRM files as well.
My logic tells me that if the apps don't work with the HK firmware then all I need do is to flash back to the official UK XXU1 version. That's why I am just asking is anyone knows of any other differences that might be exposed using the Odin method to update?

[Q] How should I get Lollipop if latest official release is 4.4.4?

My girlfriend has the M8 as her backup phone. She took it out of the drawer today to update it before starting to use it, and she found that it would only get 4.4.4 rather than Lollipop like she was expecting.
Is it true that the official 5.1 update won't be here until August or so?
Is it advisable for her to install a custom Lollipop ROM to tide her over until the official update? She wants to keep the Sense UI around.
If so, what ROM(s) are best/most popular/easiest to install?

garrettw87 said:
My girlfriend has the M8 as her backup phone. She took it out of the drawer today to update it before starting to use it, and she found that it would only get 4.4.4 rather than Lollipop like she was expecting.
Is it true that the official 5.1 update won't be here until August or so?
Is it advisable for her to install a custom Lollipop ROM to tide her over until the official update? She wants to keep the Sense UI around.
If so, what ROM(s) are best/most popular/easiest to install?
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1: yes
2: 5.0.1, or 5..0.2 are both Lollipop. 5.1.0 is an update to it.
3: I suggest ViperOneM8. I flashed it right after I bout my M8, and never looked back. When I had my last phone (Galaxy S3), I was flashing a new one every week or two.
Now........... What carrier are you on? Chances are that there is a lollipop update for your girlfriends phone.
And is she S-Off? Because that would make everything super simple. Either way, you can update her firmware (you'll need to do that to run the latest ROMs) with S-On or S-Off.
Give some more information so someone can point you in the proper direction.

garrettw87 said:
My girlfriend has the M8 as her backup phone. She took it out of the drawer today to update it before starting to use it, and she found that it would only get 4.4.4 rather than Lollipop like she was expecting.
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You need to OTA update to 4.4.4 before you can update to 5.0. OTAs need to be installed in sequence, and you can't skip one.
garrettw87 said:
[*]Is it true that the official 5.1 update won't be here until August or so?
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Yes, but there is a 5.0 update already available for the huge majority of variants (if not all).

xunholyx said:
Now........... What carrier are you on? Chances are that there is a lollipop update for your girlfriends phone.
And is she S-Off? Because that would make everything super simple. Either way, you can update her firmware (you'll need to do that to run the latest ROMs) with S-On or S-Off.
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She's on AT&T, and from what little I know of S-Off, she is not that.
redpoint73 said:
You need to OTA update to 4.4.4 before you can update to 5.0. OTAs need to be installed in sequence, and you can't skip one.
Yes, but there is a 5.0 update already available for the huge majority of variants (if not all).
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She did update to 4.4.4, and it wasn't offering any further OTA updates... until just now when I checked again. So she's probably able to get 5.0.2 now. Wonder why it couldn't tell her that the other day.

garrettw87 said:
She did update to 4.4.4, and it wasn't offering any further OTA updates... until just now when I checked again. So she's probably able to get 5.0.2 now. Wonder why it couldn't tell her that the other day.
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You can only check for updates once a day. Apparently, this is true even if there is more than one update in the queue.

redpoint73 said:
You can only check for updates once a day. Apparently, this is true even if there is more than one update in the queue.
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Sorry but not true. Just returned mine to stock 4.4.2 then got 4.4.4 offered, then immediately got 5.0.2 after reboot

gazzacbr said:
Sorry but not true. Just returned mine to stock 4.4.2 then got 4.4.4 offered, then immediately got 5.0.2 after reboot
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Thanks for the info. But one thing to note, its easy to forget the fact that AT&T is a unique animal. For AT&T branded devices, updates don't roll out from HTC directly, they must go through AT&T's network and by no other means.
What you say may or may not be true for AT&T; they have their own (annoying) way of doing things. I did state "apparently" you can only download one update a day in the OP's case; just based on the fact that they stated they updated, then no other updates came up that day, but did a couple days later. You may well be correct, and maybe there was something else preventing the subsequent update from downloading that day.

Still on 6.0 oct 1st 2015 firmware

Hey, just bought brand new 5x and I'm still on 6.0 with oct 1sr 2015 security patch. When I go to system updates it says I'm up to date. Am not getting OTA update automatically. Im on Telenor in Serbia. Should I wait or do I have to root and flash the latest update manually?
Btw, looove the handset and OS is lagfree, no issues, but still wonder why I'm not getting the latest update. No root, LB, brand new OTB device.

5ageman said:
Hey, just bought brand new 5x and I'm still on 6.0 with oct 1sr 2015 security patch. When I go to system updates it says I'm up to date. Am not getting OTA update automatically. Im on Telenor in Serbia. Should I wait or do I have to root and flash the latest update manually?
Btw, looove the handset and OS is lagfree, no issues, but still wonder why I'm not getting the latest update. No root, LB, brand new OTB device.
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to update it manually u don't need to have root access.
But if u like to try some new 3rd party ROMs root it :good:

Geeks Empire said:
to update it manually u don't need to have root access.
But if u like to try some new 3rd party ROMs root it :good:
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How do I update manually? Any recommended guides? I dont feel the need to flash a custom rom, I like what google is doing with android as is for now. Just want the lates and greatest, thats why I bought a nexus.
Also would like to know the reason why I am I not getting updates automatucally. I have the international H791 model. Firmware version MDA89E. Its two OTAs outdated.

Quick thought: Shut down, remove SIM, Start the device, Connect to Wifi, Check for updates.

Just unboxed a brand new 5X 10 minutes ago and have the exact same problem...
Tried to reboot and added a Google account, charged the battery to 100% but the thing still won't find a new system version...

marioemp2k7 said:
Quick thought: Shut down, remove SIM, Start the device, Connect to Wifi, Check for updates.
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Tried that too. I activated the device without the SIM and used it that way yesterday, inserted it just today.

Than I guess you can't do anything else unless you unlock the bootloader. At this point you can fastboot \system \boot \radio \vendor from the latest factory image or you can sideload ota zip through stock recovey.

I am having the same issue, my new nexus 5x is on 6.0 MDB08L, securiry patch level: November 1, 2015.
When I check for updates it says that my device is up to date...

The OTA will show up eventually. Or update manually.

Same thing for me in Canada. I just ended up enrolling in the Android Beta to get N preview.

Issue solved!
I got a ton of OTAs overnight while device was charging. I think it was 5 OTAs one by one that had to be installed separately, now I am on the latest April security patch and loving my nexus even more. No noticable performance difference, smooth and snappy and now up to date. So I guess updates will come you just have to be patient so google can activate them for your device. In my case it was 2 days since activation.

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How do I update manually? Any recommended guides? I dont feel the need to flash a custom rom, I like what google is doing with android as is for now. Just want the lates and greatest, thats why I bought a nexus.
Also would like to know the reason why I am I not getting updates automatucally. I have the international H791 model. Firmware version MDA89E. Its two OTAs outdated.
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[TUTORIAL][GUIDE][HOW TO] Flash Factory Images || Unroot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/general/tutorial-flash-factory-images-unroot-t3231627
How to download and install the Android Marshmallow OTA update on Nexus devices
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/how-to-install-ota-updates-on-google-nexus-devices/
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Problem with RETEU firmwares on chinese ADDISON_RETCN (XT1635-03)

I have tried to update my chinese XT1635-03 to 7.1.1 with OTA through ADB sideload and unfortunately it is not working.
I have sucessfully flashed the phone with reteu latest firmware with April security patch (ADDISON_NPNS25.137-24-1-9_cid50_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml) through fastboot.
But once I try to sideload 7.1.1 OTA (Blur_Version.26.1.22.addison.retail.en.US) the process terminates at 47% with notification that the package expects product name "addison" but actual value is "addison_retcn"
Is it possible to either change the product name or disable such check of product name? It seems to me, that at the moment there is no way to flash OTA and I need to wait for full 7.1.1 image.

Reading similar questions around, I have to ask. Why you people cannot wait couple of weeks to get OTA? Instead of risking to brick your device?
New update is not bringing revolutionary/awesome/amazing/mind blowing... new features. I understand if it's update to completely new Android version or that your device/region will not get update at all.
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You have XT1635-03 and the update is for XT1635-02. So if you have a reteu phone you can really update over sideload without issues. And yes, I need android 7.1.1 and I wouldn't wait one day longer. I need app-shortcuts, because I had this on my old phone, too. There was android 7.1 since the first day. But if you don't have it before you can't miss it. So you can wait much easier For me it was important for other issues, too. For example Wifi problems and stability fixes and over 100 security fixes. Many reasons for the update
Edit: And one more reason for the update: To help google to get more than 0.6% for android 7.1 We should update all, otherwise android 7.1 will never get 1%
Everybody should help to get this 1% maybe next month. So update, just do it for the 1%, yes xD
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The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.

freeman_g said:
The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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The point is, how can you change the channel...

freeman_g said:
The reason is simple: I do not want to use chinese firmware and flashed reteu with fastboot. As OTA channel is still retcn I will not get any OTA over the air. I expected that it is possible to manually sideload OTA but I was wrong as OTA checks the name of the device.
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OK, makes sense for you but for many/most others is just matter of time.
I'm not blaming anyone. Do whatever you want with your phone, just be ready if something goes wrong

The surprise was a different phone name. Different channel is usually not a problem

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The surprise was a different phone name. Different channel is usually not a problem
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Flash a custom ROM, I have been warning people not to flash ota's cause eventually your going to end up hard bricked.
There's no possible way safely to change your channel.
Stock firmware that is an ota always has checks during the flashing process, which prevents bricking devices.
I always suggest if your running stock firmware on moto devices then remain on your firmware that is specifically designed for your channel.
If you want the latest that android offers, custom ROMs are your best bet.
I have had many moto devices and almost every brick was so idiot that flashed Firmware and bootloaders and accepted an ota and bam HARD BRICKED

flashallthetime said:
Flash a custom ROM, I have been warning people not to flash ota's cause eventually your going to end up hard bricked.
There's no possible way safely to change your channel.
Stock firmware that is an ota always has checks during the flashing process, which prevents bricking devices.
I always suggest if your running stock firmware on moto devices then remain on your firmware that is specifically designed for your channel.
If you want the latest that android offers, custom ROMs are your best bet.
I have had many moto devices and almost every brick was so idiot that flashed Firmware and bootloaders and accepted an ota and bam HARD BRICKED
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Oh no, can't go back. What can I do now? But all is working. Can it be that my reteu phone will be bricked after next OTA?

allrightlite said:
Oh no, can't go back. What can I do now? But all is working. Can it be that my reteu phone will be bricked after next OTA?
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I have no idea

flashallthetime said:
I have no idea
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Is it ever happend?
But is the US-version not always the same as the EU-version? The only difference is over which channel it comes.

allrightlite said:
Is it ever happend?
But is the US-version not always the same as the EU-version? The only difference is over which channel it comes.
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If you are not 100% bone stock and unmodified, there is always some risk when accepting an OTA carrier update. On any device. Some the risks are bigger than others. Moto seems to be fairly high risk in this regard.
If you want OTAs, and you want to be safe, don't modify anything. If you insist on mods (which I usually do, but not yet on MZP) then always update via a manual method, never accept an OTA.

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If you are not 100% bone stock and unmodified, there is always some risk when accepting an OTA carrier update. On any device. Some the risks are bigger than others. Moto seems to be fairly high risk in this regard.
If you want OTAs, and you want to be safe, don't modify anything. If you insist on mods (which I usually do, but not yet on MZP) then always update via a manual method, never accept an OTA.
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I have all 100% stock. And all is working after update. Seems there is really no difference between US and EU channel. Can't find any changes. So OTA should work in future. But sure, there are channel with differences, for example the chinese version is not the same.

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I have all 100% stock. And all is working after update. Seems there is really no difference between US and EU channel. Can't find any changes. So OTA should work in future. But sure, there are channel with differences, for example the chinese version is not the same.
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If you sideloaded an update, you are no longer 100% bone stock. Welcome to beta tester land.

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If you sideloaded an update, you are no longer 100% bone stock. Welcome to beta tester land.
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It feels not like a beta. It's more like a big bug fix with much patches. For example my Wifi is now stable as hell and never reconnections anymore. Hope it keeps stable, but looks very very good. I think this beta will be the final release in few months, or weeks? But it's much better than 7.0. And better than LOS14.1, which is not so stable (on my other phone). And I have no app crashes anymore. Gboard was crashing with 7.0 one time and few other apps like firewall. So, 7.1.1 is pure stable as hell and must have :laugh:

Afaik, it's not beta. It's​ soak. So, if test users reported as stable, it will be pushed to all as the final build. If not, Moto has to fixed and not all users around the world will be affected.
Regular and recommend way of releasing update.
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Here you can see that it's not test-keys like a nightly from LOS. It's really release keys :laugh:

If you are on XT1635-03 with reteu frmware you will not receice any OTA. My experience told that you can't even sideload an update. So no worry about bricks.
Very often devices are hardbricked when you are downgrading bootloader but once I have hardbricked my Nexus 6 with OTA (sideloading it). Well, it was not full brick, but I can't load the system (only fastboot) and my bootloader was locked. Without system loaded you can't allow unlocking procedure so the first thing I do with new phone is unlocking.

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Here you can see that it's not test-keys like a nightly from LOS. It's really release keys :laugh:
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I know the build is not a beta. I'm referring to the fact that once you leave the official upgrade path, taking any update is a scenario not tested by Moto. So you are testing for them. Maybe you win, maybe you brick.

It seems that the problem with "addison_retcn" may be fixed with editing build.prop but in this case systemless root is required (AFAIK there us no systemless root for Nougat)

shall i update firmwares?

Hi guys, I just bought a brand new note 10+ N975W (canada version). I'm on stock firmware. It keep asking me to update. Shall I update? which version is best to keep the battery last as long as possible?
Also, can i downgrade to previous versions or stock if i dont like the upgraded firmware?

Yes update. It's probably just security updates at this point, so there would be no reason to go back. The Note 10 firmware is fairly mature by now.

chances are if you bought it recently it is already an updated firmware unless the store is running really old stock, as they tend to produce the devices with the latest firmware at the time of manufacture. basically you would need to find a phone that was manufactured before any updates to get the original stock firmware.
chances are any phone produced this year likely has Android 10 pre installed instead of Android 9 and a much more recent security patch, so in that case you may as well update the phone as it is already updated to an extent.
as for downgrading to an actual launch firmware it's not possible as every so often they make a change that can't be reversed so it stops you going to an older firmware (I know it happend with both Android 10 and the One UI update, there are likely more points)
but in terms of battery use, everyone's numbers will differ no matter the firmware as a lot of it comes down to settings, what its used for and the environment it is ran in.

Belimawr said:
chances are if you bought it recently it is already an updated firmware unless the store is running really old stock, as they tend to produce the devices with the latest firmware at the time of manufacture. basically you would need to find a phone that was manufactured before any updates to get the original stock firmware.
chances are any phone produced this year likely has Android 10 pre installed instead of Android 9 and a much more recent security patch, so in that case you may as well update the phone as it is already updated to an extent.
as for downgrading to an actual launch firmware it's not possible as every so often they make a change that can't be reversed so it stops you going to an older firmware (I know it happend with both Android 10 and the One UI update, there are likely more points)
but in terms of battery use, everyone's numbers will differ no matter the firmware as a lot of it comes down to settings, what its used for and the environment it is ran in.
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my phone is still running on android 9.0.

aznboix said:
my phone is still running on android 9.0.
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Since the phone is new. Before getting to far into configuration, run the update, then do a factory reset. It'll do a fresh install of Android 10 and any security updates.
That will give you a nice clean install you can then setup.
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You should always update. They are mostly Security Updates, these are for security reasons (Hence the name ). Yeah there are some system modifications and enhancements too but the main reason is to ensure the device is as secure as possible

Is there a custom firmware that works perfectly?
can i root my device?
can i flash to another firmware? Asia firmware for exemple
what are the apps that i can't miss on note 10+?
which firmware that has vietnamese language?
thanks