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[Q] would you recommend me buy an xperia arc s? why?

Hi, I'm an user of an old xperia x8 and I'm thinking in upgrade to an Arc S but I need to know a few things before, like battery life and smoothness of UI in GB and ICS (I'm not planing to install custom kernel/rom).
I've watched some reviews on youtube but the only thing I see there is people scrolling through settings, app drawer, etc... I need to know how it behave in daily use based on your experiences... I hope you can help me
thanks
best regards

What is your budget first of all?

yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)

LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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4 days???!!!!
what rom and kernel are you using?
overclocked?
what governor and scheduler?

LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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could you please define what does normal use mean for you if the same as for me (gmail sync on, some emails.. 15-25 as i use them instead of sms mainly, little bit of gaming like 30 minutes per day, maybe 15 minutes of talking and a couple of sms messages) then your results are astonishing... with such usage my phone struggles to stay unpluged for 20hrs.
anyway, as it was asked, on what rom and settings?!?!

thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol

darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
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Well i would not recommend arc s at this moment.. i accept it is a great phone looks great but its a bit outdated at this moment.. i would ask you to buy a xperia nxt series phone..
And samsung looks ugly in my opinion.. you can also check out htc one v..
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darkfrmr said:
thanks for your answers! well, my budget is enough to buy an xperia arc s, i really like the design (i could buy a Galaxy S but just do not like it). I need the battery to last at least 1 day (15~24 hours is acceptable) with 3g data on, email push notifications, whatsapp and little web browsing, I do not play games on my phone or listen to music. Anyone here using arc s with that kind of use?
thanks!
edit: oh well, a few calls also lol
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i am sure it can handle that much of load for a day..samsung sucks..yesterday had a fight on S2 forum on the same topic..got a warning from Forum Mod too

It would be wise for now to go for Xperia P or U considering the same price as Arc S..
If you desire much for Arc S,then simply go for it!
+1 for Samsung sucks!

+1 for the same. Lol.
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Battery of arc s is I think 12 hours if u use these things n tht is enough
None phone give like tht with WiFi n 3 g

The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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LP.Bullets said:
yes i recommend it for you
talking about the battery life,,,, when i bought it i had to recharge it everyday! but as time goes on the battery performance gets better. and when you update it to ICS the battery life is improved and lasts for 4 days (normal use)
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WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT 4DAYS
HOW COME??????????????

ArmorD said:
The battery is horrible and so far I've seen no actually smooth rom, not even the very stock.
Honestly,i don't recommend Arc. As said above, you should buy Xperia U or whatever.
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Who said so?
GB with Arconium has a terribly smooth experience!
The same with battery, i get about a whole day with a single charge which is more than enough for me and most of the people!
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This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s

Tbh, the Xperia s is good, but not a huge leap from the arc. Dual core is used to imply better performance, but it's the context that matters. If microsecond improvements in response really matter then go for an Xperia s, but don't look for a huge difference in performance overall then unless you're a huge gaming freak with no PSP the difference will be negligible.
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Shetz said:
This is a wonderful cell phone but if you going to buy a new cell phone im recommend to you buy Xperia S, this is a dual core and more app better than arc s
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Well he said so tat his budget would be lik in a Arc S range only!
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I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..

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mandarjoshiin said:
I would a big NO...... Wait for some days and go for Samsung galaxy S3... Seriously there is a huge difference between Samsung firmwares & Sony firmwares as far stability and performance is concerned..
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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now.i.feel said:
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His budget is to buy an arc.. not even close to what siii will cost.. also siii looks ugly in front of arc
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Yeah of course, + 1 for Sony,
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[Q] to upgrade or to root

Hi, I am having a dilemma as titled. I am getting increasingly frustrated by the low RAM and poor battery life (with hot phone) of my Xperia S (on B.1.96 latest firmware). I use Whatsapp a lot and it couldn't keep itself in memory if I launch/run Chrome at the same time. The push notification is still there but it will load again to get into the conversation page. Does custom ROM provide much better memory handling to allow better management? My Nexus 7 feels just fine even both devices run on 1GB RAM (of course Nexus 7 has more cores, but I think it doesn't affect memory management.)
Living in Malaysia, where temperature is generally higher also doesn't help the phone, which gets hot very easily. It gets hot easily and drains battery - I could get something as ridiculous as getting 5 minutes on screen time but already went through 40% of the juice after half a day. I don't believe there is anything to do with stupid background apps as I screen my apps pretty vigorously on their efficiency and most of them are inherited from my older HTC Desire - which has no background apps problem for me. I believe it's definitely a firmware issue but I am not sure how much can custom ROM fix in that department?
Should I upgrade? My current shortlist will be either an Xperia Z1 or a HTC One. I still admire HTC phones a lot and the One certainly does very well to impress me. My main concern is on its aluminium as I'll definitely opt for the black option, it may reveal scratch and scuff very easily. Z1 looks to be an impressive phone but I am slightly worried with its increased size and weight. I always try to handle phones in one hand to see if I could drag down the notification bar without reshuffling my fingers and the HTC One is as probably the largest I could take. But the extra battery, on-screen button (a plus for me) and water-resistant ability keeps me pretty interested (especially Sony Malaysia is bundling the dock together).
Will rooting and custom ROM solve my frustration? Or I am better off upgrading to a proper flagship?

you haven't said what phone and on what firmware?
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Ben36 said:
you haven't said what phone and on what firmware?
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Oops, my bad. It's Xperia S and on latest B.1.96 firmware.

I live in Malaysia too,and to be honest - The kadar kepanasan (hot rate) is damn high recently...and if a phone is hotter,the performance will be sluggish
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unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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Ben36 said:
unlock the bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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That is one of the options but how much improvement it warrants? It baffles me that the Nexus 4 has twice the mileage my Xperia S could get - sure there's hardware and firmware difference and 300mAh difference, but it still does not make much sense to me. The Xperia S has not had good battery life and I must keep it charged whenever I have the chance.

AOSP 4.3 is amazingly smooth and fast!
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tanjinjack said:
That is one of the options but how much improvement it warrants? It baffles me that the Nexus 4 has twice the mileage my Xperia S could get - sure there's hardware and firmware difference and 300mAh difference, but it still does not make much sense to me. The Xperia S has not had good battery life and I must keep it charged whenever I have the chance.
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I suggest you unlock your bootloader and flash Pongnamu's PureSlim from the development forum. It did wonders to my battery life and it lasts a day with moderate-heavy usage.
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[Q] Some questions about xperia zl

Hi everyone, Im going to buy this smartphone so I have some questions :
1/ Is the battery life better than optimus g ? ( My old optimus g can last full a day with 4,5 hours onscreen time ( surfing webs, email, facebook,...))
2/ The temperature when gaming ? ( for example, alphast 8)
Thanks

The battery life is not great. 3.5 hours onscreen time in 18 or 20 hrs max. In games works very good and the temperature is a little warm but that's in every demanding game
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How about CM 10.1 on this device ? Does battery life better than its stock rom ?

I can't tell you anything about cm10.1 because I have blocked the bootloader from factory. If you want cm10.1 make sure to buy a model with the bootloader allow to unlock.
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So is there anyone here using ( or used) CM 10.1 on xperia ZL ? I want to know more about battery life on this custom rom

Using Cm11 you'll get around 3 and a half hours of battery, but you'll actually get better on stock based roms from my experience. I had to revert back to the stock rom so I can give it to the service center... so this is the only screenshot I have right now and its what i normally get...

And how about the stand by time when stamina mode is on ? Did you play games or use 3g/4g ?

pat2211 said:
And how about the stand by time when stamina mode is on ? Did you play games or use 3g/4g ?
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I didn't use stamina mode much cause it cut off data but i did play plenty games (like asphalt 8, riptide 2 etc)... needless to say they did drain quite a bit of the battery. But its the same on any android device. I never felt the need to carry a portable charger and always had enough juice to reach home at night and still use it for a couple of hours... and I'm on 3g...

And how much time zl last with alphast 8 ? If you just surf webs and email, does the battery life better ? Thanks

In about half an hour asphalt takes 10-14 % of the battery.... and web surfing takes about the same in an hour.... this is of course just off the top of my head... as i can't measure and tell you right now cause i don't have the phone with me.... But u have to realize the battery life depends from user to user and from region to region... I can give u hundreds of answers but still it might not match many others' experiences! It just varies...

Note 3 Rom for Canvas A1

will theze mobiles get Roms like note 3, xperia z2? i want to buy this mobile.. plz reply,
it s unavailable at Amazon.. wen will the stock come again?

Faiyaz5yaz said:
will theze mobiles get Roms like note 3, xperia z2? i want to buy this mobile.. plz reply,
it s unavailable at Amazon.. wen will the stock come again?
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just buy spice or karbonn. except look, everything is same.

Faiyaz5yaz said:
will theze mobiles get Roms like note 3, xperia z2? i want to buy this mobile.. plz reply,
it s unavailable at Amazon.. wen will the stock come again?
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Not sure abt it ... U can theme it like Samsung s5 google it there is lots of guides here in xda
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Recognized Noob said:
just buy spice or karbonn. except look, everything is same.
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am not sure if other devices will b getting much support from xda.. i hav seen other canvas devices with more number of roms..
so any idea about wen it ll b available again?

Faiyaz5yaz said:
am not sure if other devices will b getting much support from xda.. i hav seen other canvas devices with more number of roms..
so any idea about wen it ll b available again?
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u did not get my point. the devices have same internal. roms of mmx a1 will work on other devices, say karbonn. thats y i got karbonn. even the recovery will work on other android one phones. i suggest you buy spice dream uno asap

Faiyaz5yaz said:
will theze mobiles get Roms like note 3, xperia z2? i want to buy this mobile.. plz reply,
it s unavailable at Amazon.. wen will the stock come again?
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We will almost certainly see a cyanogemod release on the platform at some point in the future.When we do, you can always leverage its theme engine to get the touchwiz look:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thomassafca.theme.touchwiz.five.free&hl=en
or for that matter the xperia look:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.theme.XperiaZ&hl=en
The phone is available to order now on amazon- they ship it on the 24th and in my experience it only takes 2-3 days to get to you. As a side note- this phone is pretty well optimized out of the box.

avinash60 said:
We will almost certainly see a cyanogemod release on the platform at some point in the future.When we do, you can always leverage its theme engine to get the touchwiz look:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.thomassafca.theme.touchwiz.five.free&hl=en
or for that matter the xperia look:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.theme.XperiaZ&hl=en
The phone is available to order now on amazon- they ship it on the 24th and in my experience it only takes 2-3 days to get to you. As a side note- this phone is pretty well optimized out of the box.
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yeab bro.. already checked.. tomo morning i ll b ordering..
any idea abt battery life? my frnd°s unite 2 has 2000mah and lasts hardly a day

moto e has a better backup than tis phone.. but its upto u since every mobile has its pros n cons

Faiyaz5yaz said:
yeab bro.. already checked.. tomo morning i ll b ordering..
any idea abt battery life? my frnd°s unite 2 has 2000mah and lasts hardly a day
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It's alright- not that great. Expect 18-20 hour backup with moderate usage, i.e. charge the phone every evening. 3G takes more of a toll on the battery than wifi though.

what?
avinash60 said:
It's alright- not that great. Expect 18-20 hour backup with moderate usage, i.e. charge the phone every evening. 3G takes more of a toll on the battery than wifi though.
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are u sure of 18hrs? are u using it?

Faiyaz5yaz said:
are u sure of 18hrs? are u using it?
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Yes- I don't use it heavily, but with 1-2 hour screen time I need to charge it in the afternoon/evening everyday.

avinash60 said:
Yes- I don't use it heavily, but with 1-2 hour screen time I need to charge it in the afternoon/evening everyday.
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so the battery back up is around 8 hrs with moderate usage..

Don't worry about the battery life. It's good enough. Don't fall for users who are assuming it and not used in person.
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b00gieMan_droid said:
Don't worry about the battery life. It's good enough. Don't fall for users who are assuming it and not used in person.
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i saw a vdo on youtube wch showed 21% battery drain fr half an hour game play of asphalt 8

Faiyaz5yaz said:
i saw a vdo on youtube wch showed 21% battery drain fr half an hour game play of asphalt 8
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battery backup is on the lower side. i have phone. i need to charge by evening. moderate to heavy use. i am also gamer.

Recognized Noob said:
battery backup is on the lower side. i have phone. i need to charge by evening. moderate to heavy use. i am also gamer.
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good to see a person with this mobile..
can u share your reviews of this mobile? is the speaker too bad?

Faiyaz5yaz said:
i saw a vdo on youtube wch showed 21% battery drain fr half an hour game play of asphalt 8
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Must be something wrong.. It's not that bad. About other user talking about need to charge by evening.. That totally depends on the usage.. What's the screen on time on such scenario?
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I'd like to share by battery stats.... I'm a moderate user. Gaming is not a priority. Both Sims are connected. Network is 2g. Wifi is on (goes to suspend when screen is off) most of the time. I'm getting more than expected backup. I believe playing a game like asphalt will drain battery on any phone. Screen will be at maximum brightness. All your phones resources are being used. Also a 6.5k price phone is not to be expected to do heavy gaming and still have a lot of battery

Left out the pic in the previous post

Faiyaz5yaz said:
will theze mobiles get Roms like note 3, xperia z2? i want to buy this mobile.. plz reply,
it s unavailable at Amazon.. wen will the stock come again?
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All android one are available at mobile stores
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Info about a5 2017 battery autonomy with android nougat

Hello, I would like to buy the samsung galaxy a5 2017 because I read online that the battery life is quite high, only that all the reviews I read refer to the smartphone with android marshmallow so i would like to know if the autonomy of the battery is always the same with the update to nougat , thanks.

Randy_Orton91 said:
Hello, I would like to buy the samsung galaxy a5 2017 because I read online that the battery life is quite high, only that all the reviews I read refer to the smartphone with android marshmallow so i would like to know if the autonomy of the battery is always the same with the update to nougat , thanks.
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7 hrs 31 min SOT if that really helps

moozer said:
7 hrs 31 min SOT if that really helps
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wow thanks really much time! And the overall usage time as it was?

Randy_Orton91 said:
wow thanks really much time! And the overall usage time as it was?
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That is an average since 1st November using GSM battery monitor. Usage varies, but I use the device as usual (SMS, email, browsing, etc) and also some heavy gaming and YouTube viewing. Today, I've done those things plus approximately 6 hours using GPS with High Accuracy.
Please note: I am NOT an advocate of SOT and regard it as a fairly contentious measure of a device's battery consumption. Each device's SOT varies significantly between users and usage. The above SOT that I have shared with you is simply a guide.
Personally, I have noticed with each device I have owned that battery consumption improves with each Android release. My last three devices have been testament to that (Sony Xperia SP - KK, L, M; Moto X Play - L, M, N; Galaxy A5 2017 - M, N).
I hope the above helps.

moozer said:
That is an average since 1st November using GSM battery monitor. Usage varies, but I use the device as usual (SMS, email, browsing, etc) and also some heavy gaming and YouTube viewing. Today, I've done those things plus approximately 6 hours using GPS with High Accuracy.
Please note: I am NOT an advocate of SOT and regard it as a fairly contentious measure of a device's battery consumption. Each device's SOT varies significantly between users and usage. The above SOT that I have shared with you is simply a guide.
Personally, I have noticed with each device I have owned that battery consumption improves with each Android release. My last three devices have been testament to that (Sony Xperia SP - KK, L, M; Moto X Play - L, M, N; Galaxy A5 2017 - M, N).
I hope the above helps.
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ok thank you so much for your help and explanation, however on average it is a smartphone that has a little more autonomy than its direct competitors also with nougat
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I have 30% left on battry on my A7 and it'h 6h screen on time its exelent
Remarq im on android nougat

my SOT after the nougat update is worse than on MM. Now I have around 3h SOT from around 5h SOT before the update

My battery averages 6-8 hrs SOT since I've bought my a5 2017.