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Please stop using Titanium Backup to restore system files when you upgrade you ROM! Some system apps and settings are incompatible when newer ROMS. When I do backups I backup my user apps to one folder and system apps in another. This way I can just restore my user apps and their data in a batch restore but with the system files I only restore data to apps with the same version.
I make this thread because n00bs keep restoring everything including their incompatible system files and start to whine about the ROM being slow, apps FCing, and other assorted mishaps. I've already helped 2 n00b friends who had phones stuck in bootloop after doing full restore.
Which program would you suggest?
This is an interesting argument
I use Titanium Backup, I just don't restore system app data to incompatible apps.
I backup using apps + system data option.
In this case, system data refers to data that are related ONLY to apps right?
When I upgrade to gingerbread, you think it will cause problem??
Or, Should I only back up apps?
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[email protected] said:
I backup using apps + system data option.
In this case, system data refers to data that are related ONLY to apps right?
When I upgrade to gingerbread, you think it will cause problem??
Or, Should I only back up apps?
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When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
Heritz said:
When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
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So restoring the green ones should work fine? Especially the Application Widgets is important for me as it is much work to restore.
How to restore the red ones? Market + Samsung Apps?
If I do minor updates 2.2->2.2.1 is there the same recommendation to only restore user apps/data?
Thanks.
Why would you want to backup market and samsung apps?
I restore things like my APNs, contacts and SMS from system data using Titanium backup. Across a range of ROMs I've never had any issues, although I'm not restoring every bit of system data- just a select few.
Mikulec said:
Why would you want to backup market and samsung apps?
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It is faster to restore app's data than waiting for market to come up with updates and configure all manually.
Does system backup do a backup of new versions of system apps?
rickg99 said:
It is faster to restore app's data than waiting for market to come up with updates and configure all manually.
Does system backup do a backup of new versions of system apps?
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the market automatically downloads apps when you open it. personally, i do not back up my apps but instead use my internet connection to access the market and sownload all the apps back at one go. Q: Is the same service(auto download downloaded apps) on samsung apps?
Heritz said:
When you backup user apps (the ones in white), you will backup the app + its settings and data.
When you backup system data (the ones in green), you are backing up only system settings, like SMS/MMS, Accounts, Calendar, Timezone, Phone logs, Wifi APN, etc.
When you backup system apps (the ones in red), you are backing up ONLY the settings and data for that app, not the app itself. THIS is what Intratech it asking you to NOT backup.
Why? Because the next ROM you install, will most likely have a different system app version than the one you previously had.
Usually:
Different apps == Different settings === problems
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I do backup system data however I'm careful when restoring stuff. I check app version number and if they are different then I don't restore any app data for that.
The market doesn't automatically restore your user apps, that's why I restore those.
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
hello,
I know it's off topic, but can i just ask you a simple question?
when restoring with TB, does screen has to be on all the time?
because for me, when screen goes off, whole process stops and when I turn it back on, it resumes..
Is there an option available in TB where you can set to have screen off while restoring?
cheers
[email protected] said:
hello,
I know it's off topic, but can i just ask you a simple question?
when restoring with TB, does screen has to be on all the time?
because for me, when screen goes off, whole process stops and when I turn it back on, it resumes..
Is there an option available in TB where you can set to have screen off while restoring?
cheers
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Sure - in Settings or Options you can specify exactly this issue "WakeLocks Mode".
Kind regards,
ww
lamacow123 said:
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
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I never observed that
webwude said:
Sure - in Settings or Options you can specify exactly this issue "WakeLocks Mode".
Kind regards,
ww
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There's a bug with SGS and WakeLocks commands that TB never sorted and never supported or even gave feedback.
ScreenOn: will hang your screen On unless you reset phone
Keep CPU: screen bug is solved, but scheduled backups won't start in standby. They'll start later when you turn screen on. When screen is off, the will keep running (preferred setting for me)
Disbled: you'll have Keep CPU bug added with the pause of jobs when screen auto Off, as you expierience
To be on topic again, restoring green data is safe. Especially SMS, MMS, calendar and contacts data
For myself i duplicate apps folder on phone in case backup fails .
Root Explorer and copy APP file to sd card and or PC .
Backup fails then it just requires each app installing from the sd card .
jje
I don't think something so painfully obvious needed a thread.
lamacow123 said:
The market does auto download those apps that you have downloaded before but are not on your phone.
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Not on SGS roms
when you install CM7, it does
Furry Atom said:
I don't think something so painfully obvious needed a thread.
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I disagree because many guys get confused as to what system apps mean. I had this problem after I restored system apps a long time ago. Since then I don't backup my system apps at all but chose individual system apps like Maps, Gmail etc. to back up.
so i want to change again my rom again but now i have a lot of things on my phone that important to me
so i would like to use titanium backup but im not quit sure how to use properly
so can somebody explain to me how do i backup everything
and when i mean everything i mean like saves from games and sms and music and pictures and more
so please i need your help
thanks
Using Titanium Backup:
1. Menu -> Batch -> Select RUN Backup all user apps + System data
2. The backup will be in the folder on ur SD card. Copy and save it in case u earse the entire SD card
Using Recovery:
To backup enitre ROM which ever you are currently using. Reboot into recovery..
Currently I use Clockword Mod, so I know how to do it only by this one
1. Reboot into recovery mode.
2.Under Backup & Restore do the nandroid Backup which backsup the currently using ROM with data.
3. This will also be under the folder ClockwordMod in ur SD card backit up in case u do SD card formatting
For SMS, Call Logs & Pictures I use McAfee Wavesecure which I bought long back and backsup all the data.. not sure about Titanium backup for SMS & stuff...
I think this might help you.
Excuse a newbie question, but doesn't the nandroid recovery just take a snapshot of the current setup with ROM and all?
How do you use it with a new ROM?
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You use the nandroid if the new rom doesnt work or you of some other reason want to go back to the old rom.
aswinarun said:
Using Titanium Backup:
1. Menu -> Batch -> Select RUN Backup all user apps + System data
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Don't backup System Data if you are changing from one ROM to another, you will invariably get problems backing up system files that won't work smoothly with the new ROM. Just backup user apps.
Kalavere said:
Don't backup System Data if you are changing from one ROM to another, you will invariably get problems backing up system files that won't work smoothly with the new ROM. Just backup user apps.
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Hi,if i backup system data but do not restore them..will it still conflict?
JxXxn said:
Hi,if i backup system data but do not restore them..will it still conflict?
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No, that's fine. You can back both up and just restore apps and app data with no problem. I've never backed up system data I really don't see the point, I guess you could backup and restore to the same ROM, but i'd rather just start afresh each time.
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Just backup user apps.
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I couldn't agree more with this.
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Being able to backup system data selectively isn't a bad idea, i.e. Wi-Fi access points and literally one or two other things, if someone is after a system backup this is where nandroid comes into play, in my opinion.
I do agree backup for user apps. Also I would prefer Nandroid to restore the old ROM fully. Since I have been using some CM7 RC builds & also nightly builds.. i started to restore system data as well, which literally helps me to have all settings as well.
Also he can run Restore apps with data alone...
But it is upto OP which method he prefers..
Kalavere said:
Being able to backup system data selectively isn't a bad idea, i.e. Wi-Fi access points and literally one or two other things, if someone is after a system backup this is where nandroid comes into play, in my opinion.
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This is for sure, things like bookmarks, user dictionary, wifi are nice to be able to just restore.
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mistaliu said:
This is for sure, things like bookmarks, user dictionary, wifi are nice to be able to just restore.
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I may have gotten confused....
is there a method to selectively backup / restore bookmarks and wifi (wep/wpa passphrases) ?
fred_be9300 said:
I may have gotten confused....
is there a method to selectively backup / restore bookmarks and wifi (wep/wpa passphrases) ?
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Open the app and select Backup/Restore and long press on the system data you want to backup. You should exercise caution and not backup system data that will potentially disrupt another ROM. Wi-Fi Access Points, User Dictionary etc can all be found in there. Hope this helps.
Kalavere said:
Open the app and select Backup/Restore and long press on the system data you want to backup. You should exercise caution and not backup system data that will potentially disrupt another ROM. Wi-Fi Access Points, User Dictionary etc can all be found in there. Hope this helps.
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Or the way I did it was just go under the backup/restore tab and scroll till you find what you want to backup ie. Bookmarks, wifi, etc then you are just backing up what you want and need
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I have a question regarding Titanium that I hope you can help with...
I've just upgraded to the Gingerbread RUU, so I lost root and can't get it back, or frankly want to have it back, but I've backed up a number of apps with Titanium Backup, and is there any way to reinstall them?
They're all saved to my SD card, and Titanium Backup obviously refuses to work.
I can't and don't want to get root back, so is there any way to manually use these backups, or use them with another program?
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I have a question regarding Titanium that I hope you can help with...
I've just upgraded to the Gingerbread RUU, so I lost root and can't get it back, or frankly want to have it back, but I've backed up a number of apps with Titanium Backup, and is there any way to reinstall them?
They're all saved to my SD card, and Titanium Backup obviously refuses to work.
I can't and don't want to get root back, so is there any way to manually use these backups, or use them with another program?
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You can recover the apps by searching the TitanuimBackup folder and extracting the APKs from the Zip files. It's obviously not possible to recover the data as it's zipped up in a tarball and it requires Superuser rights to access if using Titanium, however I don't know that it's not possible to manually replace the data. If you unzip the tarball and extract the folder to your desktop. If it's the BBC News app for example the folder should look like this after you extract it.
'Data/Data/bbc.mobile.news.uk/cache
-----------------------------------/databases
-----------------------------------/files
-----------------------------------/shared_prefs'
I don't know if you can access Data/Data from the phones internal memory without root, I am using Root Explorer. Try with Astro, I am guessing you can read/write to Data/Data without having S-Off as I am not getting prompted to switch to R/W to delete files (I have Root and S-Off).
If you can read and write to Data/Data without root and S-Off you can manually copy and paste the data over after installing the app, it will take ages to do if you've got any number of apps and I am not ever sure it will work, but I suppose it's worth a go.
I hope this makes sense, it makes semi sense to me as I read it back!
I have the premium version of Titanium Backup which I have been using for over a year with much success.
I have one query which would make it really awesome if it can be accomplished.
I normally only use it when doing a ROM upgrade. When I am getting ready to upgrade, I delete all my old backups, do a new set of backups on all user apps + system data, and wipe and flash the ROM. Then, when I'm back inside, I go into the Market and download Titanium plus the Pro unlock, and restore the backup.
(First of all, is this what you guys do? restoring all system data shouldn't screw up the features of the new ROM from the old one, right?)
The question is: Is there any way to have Titanium run without having to first go into the Market, find the app plus the unlock, download it, and install it? i.e. If I could just run it straight off the SD card, or install it straight off the SD card without having to use the Market.
Ideally, it would be even better if I could have a startup script on first run where it just restores the full set of apps + system data after I've flashed the ROM.
Is this at all possible?
download or extract from a rom the titanium.apk, put it on sd-card an install the apk after flashing new rom and it´s done.
Ozzah said:
I have the premium version of Titanium Backup which I have been using for over a year with much success.
I have one query which would make it really awesome if it can be accomplished.
I normally only use it when doing a ROM upgrade. When I am getting ready to upgrade, I delete all my old backups, do a new set of backups on all user apps + system data, and wipe and flash the ROM. Then, when I'm back inside, I go into the Market and download Titanium plus the Pro unlock, and restore the backup.
(First of all, is this what you guys do? restoring all system data shouldn't screw up the features of the new ROM from the old one, right?)
The question is: Is there any way to have Titanium run without having to first go into the Market, find the app plus the unlock, download it, and install it? i.e. If I could just run it straight off the SD card, or install it straight off the SD card without having to use the Market.
Ideally, it would be even better if I could have a startup script on first run where it just restores the full set of apps + system data after I've flashed the ROM.
Is this at all possible?
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Never restore system data as it can and has causes issues. It is only advised to restore user apps and data never system data.
As for your other question no not that I know of. Most roms worth anything already include TIBU so all you have to do is install the pro key and run it.
Start Titanium backup
Goto menu/more/create update>zip
scroll down and hit "create update.zip"
when you install a new Rom just use "add another zip" when in Rom manager or 4EXT recovery
Goto SD card and select "update.zip" from root of SD card
Hope that helps
alchopop said:
Start Titanium backup
Goto menu/more/create update>zip
scroll down and hit "create update.zip"
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Thanks, that's great!
Do you know if it is smart enough to bundle the Pro unlock into the update.zip? I opened the zip file up and there only appears to be 1 APK in there.
Would it be difficult (or even possible?) to manually adjust the update.zip so that it includes the Pro unlock APK?
Ozzah said:
Thanks, that's great!
Do you know if it is smart enough to bundle the Pro unlock into the update.zip? I opened the zip file up and there only appears to be 1 APK in there.
Would it be difficult (or even possible?) to manually adjust the update.zip so that it includes the Pro unlock APK?
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Pro unlock is stored on the SD card, no need to worry about it
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restoring
So I'm returning my nexus for a replacement today. Some kind of battery issue that makes it keep turning off every night:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34923533#post34923533
On restoring, if I understand right, I'm going to move my titanium folder back to the new nexus to the SD card area.
Run my TiBU apk and just restore my apps and associated files.
If I understand right, I Should Not restore my system files right? (Although i did a lot of customizing i was hoping could come right over).
Then when i have it all customized again, I'll back up the new system and hopefully it won't have any issues anymore.
Just an android noob talking it through, sound good?
I'll be installing the rom and CM10 again of course before doing this.
zelendel said:
Never restore system data as it can and has causes issues. It is only advised to restore user apps and data never system data.
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Sorry, i take this opportunity to ask a question i had in mind for a long time: what exactly do you mean by "system data"?
I mean, can i restore stuff like "Settings", or "Wireless network", "Bluetooth associations", "SMS", "Wallpaper" and stuff like this? Is really annoying to have to re-customize from scratch the CyanogenMod settings and similar stuff, everytime i do a full wipe...
sberla54 said:
Sorry, i take this opportunity to ask a question i had in mind for a long time: what exactly do you mean by "system data"?
I mean, can i restore stuff like "Settings", or "Wireless network", "Bluetooth associations", "SMS", "Wallpaper" and stuff like this? Is really annoying to have to re-customize from scratch the CyanogenMod settings and similar stuff, everytime i do a full wipe...
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You can restore these, they're not system level files (i.e. make the system run)
GuyInTheCorner said:
You can restore these, they're not system level files (i.e. make the system run)
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Thank you!
So....what's the stuff i DON'T have to restore, because messes up my system?
sberla54 said:
Thank you!
So....what's the stuff i DON'T have to restore, because messes up my system?
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Do not restore data from SYSTEM apps.
dalanik said:
Do not restore data from SYSTEM apps.
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Could you tell me a couple of examples?
I'm sorry but i really can't figure out which ones are the system apps. In my opinion, even Settings and Wireless networks are system apps.
Do you mean all the services, frameworks, sms and contacts apps and stuff like this?
sberla54 said:
Could you tell me a couple of examples?
I'm sorry but i really can't figure out which ones are the system apps. In my opinion, even Settings and Wireless networks are system apps.
Do you mean all the services, frameworks, sms and contacts apps and stuff like this?
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I think he's talking about app names that are red-colored while you're doing the backup in Titanium BackUp.
Am I right?
Cheers
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Hello,
I wanted to update my firmware, unfortunatelly my device was fully formated ... How reinstall all apps automatically from playstore ?
I can see my 156 apps in google playstore.... But reinstall them one by one would be very boring !
Thanks for your help.
Just open Playstore in computer...sign into playstore and click my android apps in the upper right hand corner...there you will see which all apps were installed on your device...jst keep pressing install and things will be installed on to your phone...!!
Hope this helps
kskendsup, that's exactly what he(everyone) DOESN'T want to do. He has 156 apps
I am in need of a similar solution, I just flashed and did a full wipe, but android/google play refuses to sync my apps like it did before.
Is there anyway to automate downloading and installing all the apps listed in "My Apps"? I do have root access.
/sorry for threadjacking
How about downloading an macro recorder or similar program on PC and make it press install in every app you have in play store.
And to prevent this from happening again, use titanium backup. You can even transfer your titanium backups to pc in case of full wipe.
For future reference why not get a backup program like Mybackup Pro or Titanium Backup? Titanium offers scheduled backups and has a lot of other features like only keeping 3 backups, or 1 if you prefer.
To reinstall most apps the simplest way I find is to login to my Google account, turn WiFi on and after a few minutes it starts to restore them. Remember to check the box that asks if you want it to keep your device backed up.
If neither of these are what you want then I don't know what you can do. I normally backup a ROM and the apps separately so I can always recover if an update to a ROM requires a full wipe.
Guys, if I format the CD card, do all system folders get deleted also? Or it'll just delete user data?
The formatting of the SD card means that everything will get deleted but i guess the important folders are made by system again which are required for the system to run...!!
cutt88 said:
Guys, if I format the CD card, do all system folders get deleted also? Or it'll just delete user data?
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Formatting sdcard alone will not format system and user data (unless for some apps on asec).
Format system and wipe data thru CWM will delete them
kskendsup said:
The formatting of the SD card means that everything will get deleted but i guess the important folders are made by system again which are required for the system to run...!!
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Just asking to make sure the formatting won't brick my phone..
@dionas
I had and loved to use titanium BUT
When my all phone was erased by updating firmware, titanium has also gone !. So titanium isn't the solution in my case .
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cutt88 said:
Just asking to make sure the formatting won't brick my phone..
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Nah it wont brick..unless you totally wipe it through CWM and then no rom is loaded onto it, it would not start but thats not bricking it..!!
If you just normally format your SD card it means only your music n things like that will be deleted..no chance of bricking i guess..!!
I was rooted, had Philz CWM recovery, agni kernel and xposed. Everything worked fine, I used to get forced reboots when the system heated up but it was nothing new, everything worked like it used to after reboot.
Since just today I changed to "winter 3d LWP" which is mildly graphics intensive, didnt experience any lag.
Then when I pressed the home button sometime later that day, the 3d wallpaper stretched across and after sometime, phone rebooted but was stuck in loop this time. just to make sure i accessed philz recovery mode and rebooted from there. It took some time for the system to boot but everything was reset to default, all the app data and phone settings were reset excluding the data I manually put there, which seemed like the dalvik cache was wiped or something. So i accessed the recovery mode again and rebooted since i couldn't find anything that would help.
But after boot i got the same interface, it asked me to login to dropbox and asked to login and stuff which I already did after the app data was automatically wiped the first time.
Is this some philz recovery glitch?
Any possible way I can get the data back? Not possible though but anything will be appreciated since this is the third time I'm losing my data. It's tough to recover from that situation.
Normally this won't happen for the reboot problem you can try to change the agni settings by using the default oc setting for cpu and gpu.
And try to take backup of your app data through any backup apps like Tb so next time something happens you can at least restore everything
And also do a nandroid backup always.
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I don't really tinker with any clock settings. Exynos here gets heat up easily.
Do I have to take a nandroid backup and another backup parallel to it? Or just nandroid would do?
I need to export backup directly to external storage excluding SD card. I have OTG, would that work with external hdd for import?
Sujay Shinoda said:
I don't really tinker with any clock settings. Exynos here gets heat up easily.
Do I have to take a nandroid backup and another backup parallel to it? Or just nandroid would do?
I need to export backup directly to external storage excluding SD card. I have OTG, would that work with external hdd for import?
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nandroid backup will take the complete backup of you phone including apps, data, efs, modem, etc. its like a emergency restore of the full phone.
and try to take a backup through TB so you can even restore only the data of the apps in some cases.
regarding OTG i think it can be, anyway you can try it.