Is it possible to move data to thumb drive on firetv?? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi chaps....
A rather quick question, As we all know the 1st gen firetv has a minimal amount of memory to be used for apps ect....
Unfortunately after a recent service provider upgrade I stupidly left the firetv on, even though I was using opendns to block updates, my new service had a change of ip address and my firetv got updated,... now for some this would not be a problem,.... but for me it's been ****e,.... horrible banners on top of screen,.... and worst of all, advertising before films start... not good for a prime user.
But there was one saving grace... I could now use the usb port to move some data off the unit to free up some space.
So I started with a few apps... no problem there,.. even Dead Trigger 2 moved most of its 50mb + over to the thumb drive.
So I thought I would give Asphalt 8 airborne a go.... initial install 58mb... extra download 1.5gb,..... now the only part that I can move is the 58mb.... wtf... why on earth can we only move just 58mb,..... surely it makes sense to have the ability to move 1.5gb .
So I just wanted to know chaps is there anyway of being able to shift this extra data or possibly sideload to firetv and then move to usb.
Also Is it possible to move kodi to firetv and would it still work correctly,.. or does it need to be available only from firetv?.
Thanks in advance chaps for any help / advice.....
Such a pity I can't root,.. as I believe it would solve a lot of problems. oh well..

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[Q] Best working Emulator Frontend?

Hey guys,
I've been trying to find the best way to put my games collection on my fire TV and so far all of them dont work well.
I even tried to use XBMC with the config information here: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=183527
No need to make any changes to the Rom Collection Browser since its been updated recently.
Rom Collection Browser(XBMC): Works but doesn't resolve misnamed files well at all. Gameboy Advance and PSX games collection buttons do nothing. Cant use because all images and videos are stored onto local drive maxing out the box space. I even made a Advancedsettings.xml file to move the cached items from xbmc to the usb drive and it doesnt allow my xbmc to run.
Advanced Launcher(XBMC): Requires much more configuration than Rom Browser. I keep getting a launcher.xml error when it tries to write to the plugin folder so it doesnt save any roms or changes.
Gamesome: Works, fantastic file identification but you have to input 100 games at a time or it will crash on new file scans. Also no way to remove previously scanned items that have moved or been deleted.
Any Input or ideas anyone?
If you have the choice to delete games through the Gamesome app,do so to properly remove them from the list.
If you have lingering game names,you will have to clear the data of the app in order to remove them,but will have to customize all of your settings again if you do clear the data.
retroben said:
If you have the choice to delete games through the Gamesome app,do so to properly remove them from the list.
If you have lingering game names,you will have to clear the data of the app in order to remove them,but will have to customize all of your settings again if you do clear the data.
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I figured that and thats a deal breaker because im not trying to redo my 23,000 nes roms 100 at a time again. and i have a collection of everything.
Are those from something "good" at a "paradise" for the animal known as "emu"?
retroben said:
Are those from something "good" at a "paradise" for the animal known as "emu"?
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Lol yes
Here is an awesome place I once forgot the name of,but eventually found once again.
It has unlicensed and pirated nes game dumps for nes.
I wish that the large compilation pack was still available so you would only have to download one file.
cah4e3.shedevr.org.ru/
There's things like Zelda SNES port for NES,Toy Story partially ported from Genesis,and Pokemon Diamond 2 on NES.
It says FAMI Dumping Project,but they are in .nes format for easy playback.
Just use retroarch's FCEUmm core to play them all,as some are using difficult mappers.
Surprisingly,it is still ongoing with new dumps since the last one was June 21st this year.
HAVE FUN!

[Q] XBMC help - XBMC is getting quite large!

I've been running XBMC on my FireTV for a while now and I have noticed that it keeps growing in size. With only an 8GB hard drive - most of which is taken up by apps - there isn't an easy way to get rid of the old thrumnails and such that are starting to make XBMC balloon up over 2GB.
Does anyone know of a good way to prune XBMC back down to a reasonable size? An app recommendation would be best - but detailed instructions would work. I'm kinda new to FTV and really haven't edited anything - just sideloaded a few things. Thanks in advance.
Search feature and ye shall find, young grasshopper
Moving the thumbnails to SD doesn't actually address the OP's problem...jut shifts it to SD
I would assume deleting the thumbnails folder together with Textures*.db should take care of the folder size. Your XBMC will run slower after the reboot as the images will have to be cached again as needed.
I have seen Python scripts to regenerate the thumbnails faster based in installed add-ons, but I don't know how to install Python on AFTV.
You need to save the Thumbnails on some external device. You can store them on a mounted flash drive or network location if you want. Unless you do that, eventually your internal memory is going to fill up.
I use a program add-on called Thumbnails Cleaner Version 1.1.3 by Max (m4x1m) Headroom, just search for repository.m4x1m.zip on google and you will find the repo in the first links. its very easy to use and can greatly reduce you thumbnails folder
I use fusion maintenance add on to do the cleaning.

[Q] Official Remote App??

I keep on reading that the Fire TV Stick is supposed to have this dedicated free app to control be able to control it from your android device (and ios coming soon...blah blah) and use voice search from your phone/tablet also....but I can't find where to download it!! Don't know if it will even work to Fire TV but it would be pretty dumb if they didn't allow it too!!
Anybody know how and where to get this app??
Had my fire tv at my girlfriends house and her little crazy dog has destroyed 2 remotes so I bought her a chromecast and brought the Fire TV back home. I leave 1tb backup drive connected to the usb to play movies through xbmc and everytime I leave the house and come back I have to disconnect it, plug in wireless keyboard, start droidmote server, reconnect drive and remount using stickmounte...it's a waste of a whole 60 seconds but still a pain!!
I don't believe it has been released yet. Still two more weeks or so until the fire tv sticks start shipping, I would expect to see it before then.
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Mike3.14159 said:
I keep on reading that the Fire TV Stick is supposed to have this dedicated free app to control be able to control it from your android device (and ios coming soon...blah blah) and use voice search from your phone/tablet also....but I can't find where to download it!! Don't know if it will even work to Fire TV but it would be pretty dumb if they didn't allow it too!!
Anybody know how and where to get this app??
Had my fire tv at my girlfriends house and her little crazy dog has destroyed 2 remotes so I bought her a chromecast and brought the Fire TV back home. I leave 1tb backup drive connected to the usb to play movies through xbmc and everytime I leave the house and come back I have to disconnect it, plug in wireless keyboard, start droidmote server, reconnect drive and remount using stickmounte...it's a waste of a whole 60 seconds but still a pain!!
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Keep an eye out for it here: http://www.aftvnews.com/
AFTVNews is very good @ keeping up with new app releases. Sometimes even a day or two before it happens...
Mike3.14159 said:
I keep on reading that the Fire TV Stick is supposed to have this dedicated free app to control be able to control it from your android device (and ios coming soon...blah blah) and use voice search from your phone/tablet also....but I can't find where to download it!! Don't know if it will even work to Fire TV but it would be pretty dumb if they didn't allow it too!!
Anybody know how and where to get this app??
Had my fire tv at my girlfriends house and her little crazy dog has destroyed 2 remotes so I bought her a chromecast and brought the Fire TV back home. I leave 1tb backup drive connected to the usb to play movies through xbmc and everytime I leave the house and come back I have to disconnect it, plug in wireless keyboard, start droidmote server, reconnect drive and remount using stickmounte...it's a waste of a whole 60 seconds but still a pain!!
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Why you must start droidmote server manually ? It should start automatically if in settings you have checked auto start on boot.
Y314K said:
Keep an eye out for it here: http://www.aftvnews.com/
AFTVNews is very good @ keeping up with new app releases. Sometimes even a day or two before it happens...
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Yeah, have had that site bookmarked for a while now - one of the 6-7 android type sites I check when I get to my college every morning.
zulu99 said:
Why you must start droidmote server manually ? It should start automatically if in settings you have checked auto start on boot.
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Thanks for the heads up, didn't realize that I could start it on boot!!
zulu99 said:
Why you must start droidmote server manually ? It should start automatically if in settings you have checked auto start on boot.
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I see that one can install the server on Windows. But can the client be installed on Windows. Planning on switching from an Android table to a full Windows 8.1 Tablet in the future. But could not find a reference of Windows 8.1 being the client to control the FTV. Not so much for games but mouse & keyboard inputs.
Y314K said:
I see that one can install the server on Windows. But can the client be installed on Windows. Planning on switching from an Android table to a full Windows 8.1 Tablet in the future. But could not find a reference of Windows 8.1 being the client to control the FTV. Not so much for games but mouse & keyboard inputs.
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If you want you can already do:
https://plus.google.com/103019026671039069038/posts/DzuU4AA5cQE
Or you can also use Bluestack
zulu99 said:
If you want you can already do:
https://plus.google.com/103019026671039069038/posts/DzuU4AA5cQE
Or you can also use Bluestack
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cool.. thanks for the info...
zulu99 said:
Why you must start droidmote server manually ? It should start automatically if in settings you have checked auto start on boot.
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Zulu,
Any plans to get droidmote on the Amazon App Store? I would be happy to pay a premium on it there since I could use my amazon coins to buy it....
I would like a lot, but I can not for now for a question of the security of the app. It is not easy to be an Android app developer, despite the applications are very cheap, there is always someone ready to rip you off and because of this, there is often more work to do on the protection that on the app.
I think the Google Play should be installable for FREE on any Android devices. (like the Amazon app store) I do not understand why it should be sold by GMS license from Google if it contains apps that are owned by the developers. I hope that this serious problem of the Android world will be solved soon.
zulu99 said:
Why you must start droidmote server manually ? It should start automatically if in settings you have checked auto start on boot.
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Any idea how to force the setting menu to open with a wireless keyboard?? I see the 3dot menu on the google play pics but don't have it on the app on my fire TV...even downloaded the 3dot xposed module but no luck! I know that the fire stick remote app is officially being released tmrw but really like this app and is probably still gonna be more useful than the official remote app!
Never mind!! Was able to open it with droidmote!
Mike3.14159 said:
Never mind!! Was able to open it with droidmote!
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Yes you can use the menu button of DroidMote Client.
Aside from that, I wanted to make a clarification:
The circle icon that you see when you move the mouse, is not a DroidMote stuff. If you use the Server on a standard Android device, you can see the classic mouse icon.
Instead the TouchMouse (for apps without mouse support, selectable by client settings ) is a DroidMote stuff and is the red transparent circle. But it is another thing.
Why your FireTv show the circle instead of the classic mouse icon ?
Because those who built the firmware has changed this icon replacing it with a really ugly in the Android Framework.
Where is the mouse icon inside the Android Framework ?
You can read this link to know, but do not try to change if you're not an expert on the Android OS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1478523
P.S.
Android is an operating system that is constantly changing and all the apps within it change so fast-paced.
To have a good remote control, you need a lot of work and testing on many applications during the evolution of the OS.
For example with Android Lollipop, Android has been completely changed from the ground up, and it took a lot of work to adapt to it.
A good application for remote control, can only exist if a developer follows her and love her everyday, adapting to all the innovations, to apps and games that constantly change.
This is what I do every day.
zulu99 said:
Aside from that, I wanted to make a clarification:
The circle icon that you see when you move the mouse, is not a DroidMote stuff. If you use the Server on a standard Android device, you can see the classic mouse icon.
Instead the TouchMouse (for apps without mouse support, selectable by client settings ) is a DroidMote stuff and is the red transparent circle. But it is another thing.
Why your FireTv show the circle instead of the classic mouse icon ?
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Sorry for not being clearer - when I opened the app ALL I would see on the screen was the "big red circular button" in the center of the screen - the one that says off, not the cursor. But after using my keyboard to "click" the "button" and turn the service on I was able to use the client app to open up the setting and set it to start on boot
Mike3.14159 said:
Sorry for not being clearer - when I opened the app ALL I would see on the screen was the "big red circular button" in the center of the screen - the one that says off, not the cursor. But after using my keyboard to "click" the "button" and turn the service on I was able to use the client app to open up the setting and set it to start on boot
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When you saw the red circle was because, inadvertently, in the settings of the Client you have selected the TouchMouse without selecting a correct TouchProfile.
The TouchMouse is useful when an app not have the mouse support. In all other circumstances, you can always use the mouse as rightly made at a later date.
For a quick start guide you can read this page:
http://www.videomap.it/dmcguide.htm

[Q] Best ROM for enabling Kodi to read external HDD by USB

Hi Guys,
I just bought my brother an ATV as a gift as he wanted a simple media player that would work well straight out of the box. I have a lot of experience with building Windows and RaspberryPi HTPC's that run Kodi, but he is far from the type who likes fiddling and 'hacking' so I thought a Fire TV would be a better solution.
We live in Australia, so I knew that most of the channels wouldn't work here with out a VPN but was disappointed to find that the USB port doesn't support mounting of an external HDD. I really should have read the fine print closer before buying, but all my brother really wanted to do was play movies off his external drive and so far the ATV has turned out to be a unusable paperweight.
I've suggested he upgrade to a NAS for his home network, but in the meantime I've been investigating other options. I have plenty of experience in rooting my android phones and loading custom ROMS and I know that this is all possible with the ATV.
Could anyone out there suggest the best option (ie. the name of a specific custom ROM) for achieving the following:
1. Loading straight into Kodi
2. Supporting USB external storage
3. Google Play for downloading apps for all other streaming services.
Thanks
randommonth said:
Hi Guys,
I just bought my brother an ATV as a gift as he wanted a simple media player that would work well straight out of the box. I have a lot of experience with building Windows and RaspberryPi HTPC's that run Kodi, but he is far from the type who likes fiddling and 'hacking' so I thought a Fire TV would be a better solution.
We live in Australia, so I knew that most of the channels wouldn't work here with out a VPN but was disappointed to find that the USB port doesn't support mounting of an external HDD. I really should have read the fine print closer before buying, but all my brother really wanted to do was play movies off his external drive and so far the ATV has turned out to be a unusable paperweight.
I've suggested he upgrade to a NAS for his home network, but in the meantime I've been investigating other options. I have plenty of experience in rooting my android phones and loading custom ROMS and I know that this is all possible with the ATV.
Could anyone out there suggest the best option (ie. the name of a specific custom ROM) for achieving the following:
1. Loading straight into Kodi
2. Supporting USB external storage
3. Google Play for downloading apps for all other streaming services.
Thanks
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You need root for all those things. Amazon is supposed to open up the usb port with a soon*to be released update.
KLit75 said:
You need root for all those things. Amazon is supposed to open up the usb port with a soon*to be released update.
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Thanks for the prompt response.
Yep, it looks like external USB storage will be enabled in the next update, however there is doubt over whether local file access (ie. for movies etc) will be permitted. Do you have any proof that it will work?
Otherwise it looks like I'll still be needing to root and install a custom ROM, which is no problem for me.
I'm just having trouble tracking down the name of a suitable ROM...?
randommonth said:
Thanks for the prompt response.
Yep, it looks like external USB storage will be enabled in the next update, however there is doubt over whether local file access (ie. for movies etc) will be permitted. Do you have any proof that it will work?
Otherwise it looks like I'll still be needing to root and install a custom ROM, which is no problem for me.
I'm just having trouble tracking down the name of a suitable ROM...?
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Well, first...rooting is not so simple. I have no idea how the units arrive in Australia but if its anything like Germany and the UK, you just can't do it except maybe by hardware which very few have done. Amazon's gone through great lengths to prevent root (lookup efuse to give you an idea. Sorry.
Second, we don't have any custom ROMs yet. We have prerooted firmware that enables rooted users to enjoy updated features and bug fixes but its identical to the amazon updates (same ui)
You know...this news about the USB port is like 3 days old. Like you, I noticed the talk was more around games. I honestly have no idea if they can restrict personal media but if they can I think they will. But for the sake of all the non-rooted users I hope it supports mkv and mp4 files. Good luck!
On a side note-- I downgraded to a small USB flash drive because all my media comes from network drives. The flash drive stores thumbs and very little else. This is ideal for me. If he travels a lot I guess this setup won't work but for home use its definetly the best way to go I think.

Is it possible to increase the internal storage of the AFTV?

Is it possible to increase the internal storage of the AFTV?
I'm running Kodi on mine and it only has 750MB left
I love this little device but the internal storage really sucks!
Hook up an external drive and move stuff there, including the kodi thumbnails. Look up <pathsubstitution> in the advancedsettings.xml.
Root or no root ? If root grab some ssd drive convert to usb, swap internal with external, if no root use move to usb function to free some storage it will only move some (you can move kodi cache i think,ssd would be best for it)
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jpeg42 said:
Hook up an external drive and move stuff there, including the kodi thumbnails. Look up <pathsubstitution> in the advancedsettings.xml.
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Won't that slow things down by a lot since it only has USB 2.0?
patt2k said:
Root or no root ? If root grab some ssd drive convert to usb, swap internal with external, if no root use move to usb function to free some storage it will only move some (you can move kodi cache i think,ssd would be best for it)
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I am rooted but would SSD (vs HDD) make any difference since it's only USB 2.0?
Use texturecache.py (google it) once in a while to prune (P) the thumbnails cache in Kodi (it will delete unneeded ones).
Again, this is the correct answer for probably most of you out there. It works with both the Fire TV and the FIre TV Stick. It doesnt rely on you buying extra hardware (apart from the one you used to set up Kodi on the Fire TV).
Sure, you can wait until the next "Toolkit" includes its version of it, but why?
If it is not Kodi that fills your diskspace - learn how to manage disk space. Uninstall some apps you've installed. If you have messed around with Kodis advanced settings xml and because of you not knowing what you are doing, now are caching whole movies on your device - stop doing that.
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Won't that slow things down by a lot since it only has USB 2.0?
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480Mbps seems sufficient to me. Haven't noticed any issues.
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harlekinrains said:
If it is not Kodi that fills your diskspace - learn how to manage disk space. Uninstall some apps you've installed. If you have messed around with Kodis advanced settings xml and because of you not knowing what you are doing, now are caching whole movies on your device - stop doing that.
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I understand what you are trying to say, but the storage on the FireTV is insanely limited. Even without Kodi installed at all, it is easy to fill the paltry 5GB with just a few games and a photo stream.
Would you mind?
48MB/s which is well below the read/write speed of traditional harddisks. You will have no performance benefit from attaching a SSD to a USB 2.0 port.
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jpeg42 said:
I understand what you are trying to say, but the storage on the FireTV is insanely limited. Even without Kodi installed at all, it is easy to fill the paltry 5GB with just a few games and a photo stream.
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edit: Mistook you for the thread starter. Yes - might be the case. Then again, it is not necessary to buy a HDD to use Kodi over the entire lifetime of the device. Also - some people arent rooted.
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480Mbps seems sufficient to me. Haven't noticed any issues.
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480mbps is what the USB 2.0 standard says but does anyone get close to that in real life?
So you haven't noticed thumbnails and background art loading slower? It seems like it should load slower because internal storage is supposed to be a lot faster than USB 2.0
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harlekinrains said:
edit: Mistook you for the thread starter. Yes - might be the case. Then again, it is not necessary to buy a HDD to use Kodi over the entire lifetime of the device. Also - some people arent rooted.
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You don't need to be rooted to mount external storage. Which is why the easiest advice to the OP is to get a 10 dollar usb thumb drive and at least triple their storage immediately.
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Neo3D said:
jpeg42 said:
480Mbps seems sufficient to me. Haven't noticed any issues.
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480mbps is what the USB 2.0 standard says but does anyone get close to that in real life?
So you haven't noticed thumbnails and background art loading slower? It seems like it should load slower because internal storage is supposed to be a lot faster than USB 2.0
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Possibly a slight delay over the native flash, but nothing that bothers me in the least.
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@jpeg42:
The additional harddrive can only be used as an external storage device - so nothing can be installed on it that depends on android logic - what was new for me is that Kodi is able to relocate its cache directory on Android (and therefore doesnt need root). edit: False - apps can be moved to the external storage - with the usual shortcoming of Androids "move to sd". I stand corrected.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201739980 The entire functionality was added by amazon only two months ago.
Also - you dont need an additional harddrive to hold Kodis thumbnail cache (if you delete unneeded items once in a while using the suggested method). Never. in no use case - so the answer always will depend upon the thread starters actual motive. Sadly he hasnt specified it in any way.
Regarding the 48MB/s issue - real world benchmarks. You wont benefit from an SSD on USB 2.0.
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@jpeg42:
Also - you dont need a harddrive to hold Kodis thumbnail cache. Never. in no use case - so the answer always will depend upon the thread starters actual motive. Sadly he hasnt specified it in any way.
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http://kodi.wiki/view/Artwork/Cache
XBMC maintains a local texture cache for thumbs and fanart, to allow fast loading of these images so that skins can show off your media in the best way possible.
All textures that Kodi loads, with the exception of textures that are provided directly by the skin, are cached to the userdata/Thumbnails folder.
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Possibly a slight delay over the native flash, but nothing that bothers me in the least.
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Are you also using a USB hub? I have an Amazon 10 port USB 2.0 hub. I'm afraid it might
1) be even slower
2) reassign "drive letters" at random
I've seen it do this in the past when I unplugged the hub and plugged it back in, even though all of the drives attached to the hub were not removed.
@Neo3D: And the likelihood of them ever amounting to something over 500 MB an still be "primarily useful" is non existent. Depending on the use case - I dont know If you have 500 TB of movies on your NAS which you are all trying to access in rotation and then are also very sensitive to Kodi reloading their artwork from the net, because you have not put them as files on your local storage which Kodi supports as well.
My answer is still the right one. If you use texturecache.py once in a while, the script will go into Kodis db files and delete old unused thumbnails - including their database entry (so when you should access one of those files again, it will be redownloaded from the net).
You dont need to buy extra storage to use Kodi to its fullest extend. For years. Even on a FIreTV Stick - which doesnt support external storage.
Also - please dont punish me for again assuming that you might have googled the question before asking it in here - again, I dont see xda primarily as customer support for amazon. (Just reframing, why it was ok, for me not to have known, that Amazon managed to release a proper Android integration for external media, two months ago and immediately thought of ways that would need root to extend the storage.).
harlekinrains said:
@jpeg42:
The additional harddrive can only be used as an external storage device - so nothing can be installed on it that depends on android logic - what was new for me is that Kodi is able to relocate its cache directory on Android (and therefore doesnt need root). edit: False - apps can be moved to the external storage - with the usual shortcoming of Androids "move to sd". I stand corrected.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201739980
Also - you dont need an additional harddrive to hold Kodis thumbnail cache (if you delete unneeded items once in a while using the suggested method). Never. in no use case - so the answer always will depend upon the thread starters actual motive. Sadly he hasnt specified it in any way.
Regarding the 48MB/s issue - real world benchmarks. You wont benefit from an SSD on USB 2.0.
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This is not true,
The maximum transfer rate is limited, yes, but random access time is still much faster compared to spindle drives.
Also depends a lot on what kind of flash drive you use. Especially the cheap ones tend to have really bad random write performance.
Was running Fedora on the FireTV with this Sandisk drive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57820070&postcount=85 and even though it was just running at USB 2.0 speeds it was really fast.
Even minimal read speed in benchmarks for normal HDDs seldomly drops below 48 MB/s. If you dont test random reads.
If you want to bring random read/write into the occasion - then you better list comparative graphs -
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-thumb-drive-review,3477-3.html
vs
http://www.tomshardware.de/charts/ssd-charts-2014/AS-SSD-4K-Random-Read,2784.html
(because there is that much variation)
but, yes - with random read/writes you have a point.
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Just as a comparison in scope - I used texturecache.py on an old XBMC installation that run daily, for three years without clearing its cache - and it stripped out about 2 GB of thumbnails/artworks. With normal use - and cleaning the texture cache every 6 months or so you should never come close to those filesizes again. Also - Kodi at least doesnt seem to perform worse when it comes to thumbnail cache. When you use texturecache.py to clean it every 6 moths or so - you should be absolutely fine. I do it myself, it works - so Im speaking from experience. All profile data (including all plugins, their backups, all databases, and the cache) of my current Kodi installation on the fire TV comes to 260MB uncompressed (after using texturecache.py). I did a backup of those files just yesterday.
Also - when I lost the 2 GB worth of thousands and thousands thumbnails, my initial reaction was not "I wish I would have bought an external hard drive for them".
Also - there is still the possibility of you have modified an advanced setting that increases the video buffer and being oblivious to that. You shouldnt do that.
Simply put - if you are looking forward to install all those great Amazon Appstore Games on your FIre TV without having to reload them - by all means, buy an external storage device that you will attach to it 24/7. If you are just trying to maintain a Kodi installation , you probably wont need it.
harlekinrains said:
@Neo3D: And the likelihood of them ever amounting to something over 500 MB an still be "primarily useful" is non existent. Depending on the use case - I dont know If you have 500 TB of movies on your NAS which you are all trying to access in rotation and then are also very sensitive to Kodi reloading their artwork from the net, because you have not put them as files on your local storage which Kodi supports as well.
My answer is still the right one. If you use texturecache.py once in a while, the script will go into Kodis db files and delete old unused thumbnails - including their database entry (so when you should access one of those files again, it will be redownloaded from the net).
You dont need to buy extra storage to use Kodi to its fullest extend. For years. Even on a FIreTV Stick - which doesnt support external storage.
Also - please dont punish me for again assuming that you might have googled the question before asking it in here - again, I dont see xda primarily as customer support for amazon. (Just reframing, why it was ok, for me not to have known, that Amazon managed to release a proper Android integration for external media, two months ago and immediately thought of ways that would need root to extend the storage.).
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This doesn't really help with the OP. This only helps with you trying to tell everyone that Kodi doesn't need more storage.
My Kodi install needs more storage. It's at >2.4GB.
I have 5 HDD's (10TB total ~2600 movies + lots of TV shows) connected to an Amazon 10port USB 2.0 hub and my library continues to grow.
Ok, now it comes to usecase.
Read my previous posting again - I've edited in some information.
Even with 10 TB of stored movies , it is questionable (edit - well actually it would come down to 12,5 GB a movie - which is possible) that you would come close to 2,4 GB of artwork and thumbnail cache. Calculate 3 mb for each movie and you can host 800 movies to reach 2,4 GB.
Depending on if this is the number of movies we are talking about - you might still want to look into using texturecache.py - it will only strip out the entries that arent active anymore (when used right).
Also - in your case - you could look at bundling the artwork with the movies themselves - and not storing it in the Kodi Databases - but since you are going into the granularities of Kodi at that point - you might as well buy an extra harddisk only for the FIre TV.
Foregive me that "I only have 5GB of diskspace on the fire TV" didnt immediatly trigger "of course - he has 1500 movies on Harddrives connected to a USB hub". Especially after the initial posting, mainly complaining how this was the Fire TVs fault..
My first impulse was "you are doing it wrong" - but perhaps, not.
Is harlekinrains really porkenhimer with paragraph breaks??
Gloat about the fact that the most unrealistic scneario actually became the one that we all should have gone for in the end - and to your using a SSD over USB 2.0 gentled advocacy - you went straight for from the very beginning.
Also lets not talk about people spending several hundereds of dollars on storage media and a fraction of that on the device to play back those files. Lets not even talk about backup, or the power cost to have them online all the time. Lets not talk about that this conversation started with "that lack of storage space on the Fire TV for artworks and thumbnails, how about that".
How about a nice game of denouncing nicknames instead?
Ok, here is my response - sure - I'm happily using four year old accounts to troll people like you. No you specifically. Because this is apparently what I do.
And between us - if there has been a character like me in here before, I can understand his level of desperation - when he/she left under said gloating. He probably wont be back.

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