Is it possible to increase the internal storage of the AFTV? - Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Is it possible to increase the internal storage of the AFTV?
I'm running Kodi on mine and it only has 750MB left
I love this little device but the internal storage really sucks!

Hook up an external drive and move stuff there, including the kodi thumbnails. Look up <pathsubstitution> in the advancedsettings.xml.

Root or no root ? If root grab some ssd drive convert to usb, swap internal with external, if no root use move to usb function to free some storage it will only move some (you can move kodi cache i think,ssd would be best for it)
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jpeg42 said:
Hook up an external drive and move stuff there, including the kodi thumbnails. Look up <pathsubstitution> in the advancedsettings.xml.
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Won't that slow things down by a lot since it only has USB 2.0?

patt2k said:
Root or no root ? If root grab some ssd drive convert to usb, swap internal with external, if no root use move to usb function to free some storage it will only move some (you can move kodi cache i think,ssd would be best for it)
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I am rooted but would SSD (vs HDD) make any difference since it's only USB 2.0?

Use texturecache.py (google it) once in a while to prune (P) the thumbnails cache in Kodi (it will delete unneeded ones).
Again, this is the correct answer for probably most of you out there. It works with both the Fire TV and the FIre TV Stick. It doesnt rely on you buying extra hardware (apart from the one you used to set up Kodi on the Fire TV).
Sure, you can wait until the next "Toolkit" includes its version of it, but why?
If it is not Kodi that fills your diskspace - learn how to manage disk space. Uninstall some apps you've installed. If you have messed around with Kodis advanced settings xml and because of you not knowing what you are doing, now are caching whole movies on your device - stop doing that.

Neo3D said:
Won't that slow things down by a lot since it only has USB 2.0?
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480Mbps seems sufficient to me. Haven't noticed any issues.
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harlekinrains said:
If it is not Kodi that fills your diskspace - learn how to manage disk space. Uninstall some apps you've installed. If you have messed around with Kodis advanced settings xml and because of you not knowing what you are doing, now are caching whole movies on your device - stop doing that.
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I understand what you are trying to say, but the storage on the FireTV is insanely limited. Even without Kodi installed at all, it is easy to fill the paltry 5GB with just a few games and a photo stream.

Would you mind?
48MB/s which is well below the read/write speed of traditional harddisks. You will have no performance benefit from attaching a SSD to a USB 2.0 port.
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jpeg42 said:
I understand what you are trying to say, but the storage on the FireTV is insanely limited. Even without Kodi installed at all, it is easy to fill the paltry 5GB with just a few games and a photo stream.
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edit: Mistook you for the thread starter. Yes - might be the case. Then again, it is not necessary to buy a HDD to use Kodi over the entire lifetime of the device. Also - some people arent rooted.

jpeg42 said:
480Mbps seems sufficient to me. Haven't noticed any issues.
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480mbps is what the USB 2.0 standard says but does anyone get close to that in real life?
So you haven't noticed thumbnails and background art loading slower? It seems like it should load slower because internal storage is supposed to be a lot faster than USB 2.0
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harlekinrains said:
edit: Mistook you for the thread starter. Yes - might be the case. Then again, it is not necessary to buy a HDD to use Kodi over the entire lifetime of the device. Also - some people arent rooted.
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You don't need to be rooted to mount external storage. Which is why the easiest advice to the OP is to get a 10 dollar usb thumb drive and at least triple their storage immediately.
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Neo3D said:
jpeg42 said:
480Mbps seems sufficient to me. Haven't noticed any issues.
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480mbps is what the USB 2.0 standard says but does anyone get close to that in real life?
So you haven't noticed thumbnails and background art loading slower? It seems like it should load slower because internal storage is supposed to be a lot faster than USB 2.0
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Possibly a slight delay over the native flash, but nothing that bothers me in the least.
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@jpeg42:
The additional harddrive can only be used as an external storage device - so nothing can be installed on it that depends on android logic - what was new for me is that Kodi is able to relocate its cache directory on Android (and therefore doesnt need root). edit: False - apps can be moved to the external storage - with the usual shortcoming of Androids "move to sd". I stand corrected.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201739980 The entire functionality was added by amazon only two months ago.
Also - you dont need an additional harddrive to hold Kodis thumbnail cache (if you delete unneeded items once in a while using the suggested method). Never. in no use case - so the answer always will depend upon the thread starters actual motive. Sadly he hasnt specified it in any way.
Regarding the 48MB/s issue - real world benchmarks. You wont benefit from an SSD on USB 2.0.

harlekinrains said:
@jpeg42:
Also - you dont need a harddrive to hold Kodis thumbnail cache. Never. in no use case - so the answer always will depend upon the thread starters actual motive. Sadly he hasnt specified it in any way.
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http://kodi.wiki/view/Artwork/Cache
XBMC maintains a local texture cache for thumbs and fanart, to allow fast loading of these images so that skins can show off your media in the best way possible.
All textures that Kodi loads, with the exception of textures that are provided directly by the skin, are cached to the userdata/Thumbnails folder.
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jpeg42 said:
Possibly a slight delay over the native flash, but nothing that bothers me in the least.
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Are you also using a USB hub? I have an Amazon 10 port USB 2.0 hub. I'm afraid it might
1) be even slower
2) reassign "drive letters" at random
I've seen it do this in the past when I unplugged the hub and plugged it back in, even though all of the drives attached to the hub were not removed.

@Neo3D: And the likelihood of them ever amounting to something over 500 MB an still be "primarily useful" is non existent. Depending on the use case - I dont know If you have 500 TB of movies on your NAS which you are all trying to access in rotation and then are also very sensitive to Kodi reloading their artwork from the net, because you have not put them as files on your local storage which Kodi supports as well.
My answer is still the right one. If you use texturecache.py once in a while, the script will go into Kodis db files and delete old unused thumbnails - including their database entry (so when you should access one of those files again, it will be redownloaded from the net).
You dont need to buy extra storage to use Kodi to its fullest extend. For years. Even on a FIreTV Stick - which doesnt support external storage.
Also - please dont punish me for again assuming that you might have googled the question before asking it in here - again, I dont see xda primarily as customer support for amazon. (Just reframing, why it was ok, for me not to have known, that Amazon managed to release a proper Android integration for external media, two months ago and immediately thought of ways that would need root to extend the storage.).

harlekinrains said:
@jpeg42:
The additional harddrive can only be used as an external storage device - so nothing can be installed on it that depends on android logic - what was new for me is that Kodi is able to relocate its cache directory on Android (and therefore doesnt need root). edit: False - apps can be moved to the external storage - with the usual shortcoming of Androids "move to sd". I stand corrected.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201739980
Also - you dont need an additional harddrive to hold Kodis thumbnail cache (if you delete unneeded items once in a while using the suggested method). Never. in no use case - so the answer always will depend upon the thread starters actual motive. Sadly he hasnt specified it in any way.
Regarding the 48MB/s issue - real world benchmarks. You wont benefit from an SSD on USB 2.0.
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This is not true,
The maximum transfer rate is limited, yes, but random access time is still much faster compared to spindle drives.
Also depends a lot on what kind of flash drive you use. Especially the cheap ones tend to have really bad random write performance.
Was running Fedora on the FireTV with this Sandisk drive: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57820070&postcount=85 and even though it was just running at USB 2.0 speeds it was really fast.

Even minimal read speed in benchmarks for normal HDDs seldomly drops below 48 MB/s. If you dont test random reads.
If you want to bring random read/write into the occasion - then you better list comparative graphs -
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-thumb-drive-review,3477-3.html
vs
http://www.tomshardware.de/charts/ssd-charts-2014/AS-SSD-4K-Random-Read,2784.html
(because there is that much variation)
but, yes - with random read/writes you have a point.
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Just as a comparison in scope - I used texturecache.py on an old XBMC installation that run daily, for three years without clearing its cache - and it stripped out about 2 GB of thumbnails/artworks. With normal use - and cleaning the texture cache every 6 months or so you should never come close to those filesizes again. Also - Kodi at least doesnt seem to perform worse when it comes to thumbnail cache. When you use texturecache.py to clean it every 6 moths or so - you should be absolutely fine. I do it myself, it works - so Im speaking from experience. All profile data (including all plugins, their backups, all databases, and the cache) of my current Kodi installation on the fire TV comes to 260MB uncompressed (after using texturecache.py). I did a backup of those files just yesterday.
Also - when I lost the 2 GB worth of thousands and thousands thumbnails, my initial reaction was not "I wish I would have bought an external hard drive for them".
Also - there is still the possibility of you have modified an advanced setting that increases the video buffer and being oblivious to that. You shouldnt do that.
Simply put - if you are looking forward to install all those great Amazon Appstore Games on your FIre TV without having to reload them - by all means, buy an external storage device that you will attach to it 24/7. If you are just trying to maintain a Kodi installation , you probably wont need it.

harlekinrains said:
@Neo3D: And the likelihood of them ever amounting to something over 500 MB an still be "primarily useful" is non existent. Depending on the use case - I dont know If you have 500 TB of movies on your NAS which you are all trying to access in rotation and then are also very sensitive to Kodi reloading their artwork from the net, because you have not put them as files on your local storage which Kodi supports as well.
My answer is still the right one. If you use texturecache.py once in a while, the script will go into Kodis db files and delete old unused thumbnails - including their database entry (so when you should access one of those files again, it will be redownloaded from the net).
You dont need to buy extra storage to use Kodi to its fullest extend. For years. Even on a FIreTV Stick - which doesnt support external storage.
Also - please dont punish me for again assuming that you might have googled the question before asking it in here - again, I dont see xda primarily as customer support for amazon. (Just reframing, why it was ok, for me not to have known, that Amazon managed to release a proper Android integration for external media, two months ago and immediately thought of ways that would need root to extend the storage.).
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This doesn't really help with the OP. This only helps with you trying to tell everyone that Kodi doesn't need more storage.
My Kodi install needs more storage. It's at >2.4GB.
I have 5 HDD's (10TB total ~2600 movies + lots of TV shows) connected to an Amazon 10port USB 2.0 hub and my library continues to grow.

Ok, now it comes to usecase.
Read my previous posting again - I've edited in some information.
Even with 10 TB of stored movies , it is questionable (edit - well actually it would come down to 12,5 GB a movie - which is possible) that you would come close to 2,4 GB of artwork and thumbnail cache. Calculate 3 mb for each movie and you can host 800 movies to reach 2,4 GB.
Depending on if this is the number of movies we are talking about - you might still want to look into using texturecache.py - it will only strip out the entries that arent active anymore (when used right).
Also - in your case - you could look at bundling the artwork with the movies themselves - and not storing it in the Kodi Databases - but since you are going into the granularities of Kodi at that point - you might as well buy an extra harddisk only for the FIre TV.
Foregive me that "I only have 5GB of diskspace on the fire TV" didnt immediatly trigger "of course - he has 1500 movies on Harddrives connected to a USB hub". Especially after the initial posting, mainly complaining how this was the Fire TVs fault..
My first impulse was "you are doing it wrong" - but perhaps, not.

Is harlekinrains really porkenhimer with paragraph breaks??

Gloat about the fact that the most unrealistic scneario actually became the one that we all should have gone for in the end - and to your using a SSD over USB 2.0 gentled advocacy - you went straight for from the very beginning.
Also lets not talk about people spending several hundereds of dollars on storage media and a fraction of that on the device to play back those files. Lets not even talk about backup, or the power cost to have them online all the time. Lets not talk about that this conversation started with "that lack of storage space on the Fire TV for artworks and thumbnails, how about that".
How about a nice game of denouncing nicknames instead?
Ok, here is my response - sure - I'm happily using four year old accounts to troll people like you. No you specifically. Because this is apparently what I do.
And between us - if there has been a character like me in here before, I can understand his level of desperation - when he/she left under said gloating. He probably wont be back.

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[app]Nexus 7 External Flash Picture Viewer & Media Streamer

Several people have asked about this, so here is something that will allow you to view photos on a Nexus 7 without rooting your device. You will need:
An OTG USB Cable. Any should do.
A USB Flash Drive or Flash Reader/Card
Some pictures
Nexus Photo Viewer (link below)
http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.viewer
How is this possible without root? I coded a USB Mass Storage Driver and FAT16/32 file system reader in Android (Java).
This is all just a teaser to get you to buy the Nexus Media Importer that is coming soon. The importer will support Photos, Videos and Music when it's complete. All of you feeling the space crunch on those 8GB models will soon have some options. Eventually, I should have something that will allow you to stream from Flash without importing the media, but this is a start.
Update: The Media Importer and Streamer (V2.0.2) has been voluntarily temporarily taken off the market for the moment.
How about exFAT support for SDXC cards ? I'm using 64GB cards in my camera and I don't want to play with "wrong" formats and risk loosing my photos.So even if my camera would allow me to use FAT32 not sure if I don't get into problems.I don't care about write read only.I can not find any app , add in or even custom ROM with exFAT included.
This is the main concern.Second, if you add video playback don't forget AVCHD (preferably 2.0) support. And of course RAW formats would be nice. Anyway, a good start.
Issues....
I've tried a couple of different flash drives, both formatted to FAT32, and I can't get it to work for me. I'm on a stock Nexus 7--I was waiting for something like this before going through all the trouble (for a newbie) of rooting and unlocking.
Issues:
1) First, it simply, repeatedly told me my flash drives had no media.
2) I got it to see a couple of photos on one of my flash drives but, I couldn't open them or anything
3) It began to constantly fc itself--couldn't even open it anymore.
Uninstalled/re-installed a couple of times but, it's still a no-go here.
What flash drives is this working with?
Manufacturers/models? I want to say that most fl;ash drives are the same but, apparently they are not.
Excellent job. I really hope this comes to fruition because I'll be the first one in line to buy it!
adit9989 said:
How about exFAT support for SDXC cards ? I'm using 64GB cards in my camera and I don't want to play with "wrong" formats and risk loosing my photos.So even if my camera would allow me to use FAT32 not sure if I don't get into problems.I don't care about write read only.I can not find any app , add in or even custom ROM with exFAT included.
This is the main concern.Second, if you add video playback don't forget AVCHD (preferably 2.0) support. And of course RAW formats would be nice. Anyway, a good start.
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After a lot of though, I think I'm going to roll the video and RAW functionality into Gallery Connect. It's pretty complex and Gallery Connect already has most of the components I need for RAW and video playback. As a bonus, you'll be able to stream it to another device.
exFAT is on the list, but it's not as well documented as FAT. It's also proprietary and MS isn't exactly giving out the spec.
androidgranny241 said:
I've tried a couple of different flash drives, both formatted to FAT32, and I can't get it to work for me. I'm on a stock Nexus 7--I was waiting for something like this before going through all the trouble (for a newbie) of rooting and unlocking.
Issues:
1) First, it simply, repeatedly told me my flash drives had no media.
2) I got it to see a couple of photos on one of my flash drives but, I couldn't open them or anything
3) It began to constantly fc itself--couldn't even open it anymore.
Uninstalled/re-installed a couple of times but, it's still a no-go here.
What flash drives is this working with?
Manufacturers/models? I want to say that most fl;ash drives are the same but, apparently they are not.
Excellent job. I really hope this comes to fruition because I'll be the first one in line to buy it!
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It should work with any Flash drive that is formatted as FAT16 or FAT32. I'll try to provide better error handling for now supported file systems in the next release.
I can see the crashes in the dev. console and have identified at least one of the problems. Hopefully your drives will be fixed in the next release. Thanks for your patients.
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After a lot of though, I think I'm going to roll the video and RAW functionality into Gallery Connect. It's pretty complex and Gallery Connect already has most of the components I need for RAW and video playback. As a bonus, you'll be able to stream it to another device.
exFAT is on the list, but it's not as well documented as FAT. It's also proprietary and MS isn't exactly giving out the spec.
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I know that there is an open source implementation for exFAT. Not sure how well it works, but if you just need read it may work:
http://code.google.com/p/exfat/
Keep up the good work.
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I know that there is an open source implementation for exFAT. Not sure how well it works, but if you just need read it may work:
http://code.google.com/p/exfat/
Keep up the good work.
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That's C, but I can use it as a reference. There is a Java version called fat32-lib, which I started using, but it was too buggy. We have to walk before we fly.
Version 0.9.1
I just posted a new version to the market. If you get No Media, try to search again. It may find it the second time.
I guess I assumed this would work with all drives. That isn't so. It should work with more drives now. It should work with drives formatted on Windows or Canon cameras.
Known issues:
Does not work with drives not using MBR partitioning. I'll try to figure this out.
Does not work well with really slow controllers.
Version 1.0 Is Live!
Did a ton of work in the last few days (nights) and I got it working really well. I also published the Nexus Media Importer, which will allow you to import to your device.
Here's the link (it may take some time to become live):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
Seems to work really well in its very beta state. I am excited to see where the app can go. Also below are some features I would love to see. (Decided to post here as well so you could reply if you wished.)
-the ability to copy both ways from a memory card or just a mini file browser mode
-photo backup mode that remembers which photos from a card are already backed up so you can quickly backup new photos
-raw image support, I do not need thumbnails myself but the ability to copy raw formats or any file type would be great.
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I'm excited for this. I don't care to root my device (I have it set up like I like and don't want to wipe it to root it), but wanted a way to play movies off of a flash drive. Just waiting on the OTG cable to arrive.
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dburckh said:
Several people have asked about this, so here is something that will allow you to view photos on a Nexus 7 without rooting your device. You will need:
An OTG USB Cable. Any should do.
A USB Flash Drive or Flash Reader/Card
Some pictures
Nexus Photo Viewer (link below)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.viewer
How is this possible without root? I coded a USB Mass Storage Driver and FAT16/32 file system reader in Android (Java).
This is all just a teaser to get you to buy the Nexus USB Importer that is coming soon. The importer will support Photos, Videos and Music when it's complete. All of you feeling the space crunch on those 8GB models will soon have some options. Eventually, I should have something that will allow you to stream from Flash without importing the media, but this is a start.
At the moment, the photos are rendered using the embedded thumbnail, so the quality will vary by camera. I'm working on rendering a proper image as well as displaying some metadata.
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You get streaming video working without root and you will make some money. Hell, I can't wait to give you mine.
And.... I couldn't wait. Bought the Importer to support the dev. Good luck getting this to work!!
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And.... I couldn't wait. Bought the Importer to support the dev. Good luck getting this to work!!
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Grabbed it too. Really looking forward to this apps development. :good:
Version 1.1 is Live
Should be available on the market soon. What's new:
Better File System Support
Multi-select and multi-save
Tabbed viewing
Faster Display/Photo Renderering
Photo shows image resolution
The Future:
Some way to select recognize and select new items from the card/drive
Reading file dates. Easy, just haven't done it yet.
As much as I was resistant to it, I think I'm going to cave to the pressure and try to get streaming video to work. It will probably be an in-app upgrade. That seems the fairest thing to do to the people that have already supported me. Frankly, I'm pretty excited about it myself. It's just going to be a horse and BUGGY ride for a while.
Possibilities:
Writing to the card/drive. Definitely doable. Scares the be-jesus out of me. I'm really concerned that I'll completely hose the card. I'm thinking this might involve a preference that you have to enable and agree that you are acting at your own risk.
File Manager View
Richer support for media types beyond photos. MP3 ID3 tag reading, MP4 meta data parsing.
Freakin sweet. This is one of the only things that was keeping me from selling my TF101, I like putting pics from my DSLR and phone onto my tablet but the Nexus makes it a real PITA without an sd card slot. Now all I need is an SD card and micro sd adapter and the correct cable :highfive:
Great update. Tested importing photos and video from my cameras SD card. For my uses (photo backup) its starting to become useful. Still need to be able to "select all" or even better for my use would be if it automatically selected all files that have not yet been imported. Also being able to choose the import folders so I can keep videos with the photos from that day. I do realize that this is not being designed purely for photo/video backup but my hope is it will function well for it.
Also the connection and copy process has been very reliable and very fast for me. I plan to do some testing with some other card readers I have as well.
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Just tried a compact flash card from my DSLR and a different card reader. It sees the card fine but does not recognize .nef files as photos. I do not expect or think it needs to give previews for nef or cr2 (raw image) files but listing them so they can be copied would be great. Even if they were in a separate "all files" tab.
Keep up the good work and hopefully my input is somewhat useful
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Bought to support developer ! It's great.
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jeffreyklassen said:
Great update. Tested importing photos and video from my cameras SD card. For my uses (photo backup) its starting to become useful. Still need to be able to "select all" or even better for my use would be if it automatically selected all files that have not yet been imported. Also being able to choose the import folders so I can keep videos with the photos from that day. I do realize that this is not being designed purely for photo/video backup but my hope is it will function well for it.
Also the connection and copy process has been very reliable and very fast for me. I plan to do some testing with some other card readers I have as well.
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Just tried a compact flash card from my DSLR and a different card reader. It sees the card fine but does not recognize .nef files as photos. I do not expect or think it needs to give previews for nef or cr2 (raw image) files but listing them so they can be copied would be great. Even if they were in a separate "all files" tab.
Keep up the good work and hopefully my input is somewhat useful
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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I can add .nef & .cr2 support (including thumbs), but they aren't supported by Android natively. You would need something like Gallery Connect to view them. Unfortunately, Gallery Connect won't be able to find them unless you type in the path to Pictures (for the moment). FYI: It's /scdard/Pictures
I plan on adding some sort of select all or select new.
I am not thrilled about the IAP plan either. It's the only way I can think of to provide what I consider premium functionality without buying another app. I didn't want to hit people twice. I guess the other option is an app that only does streaming, but I think that would be confusing.
Another option is just raise the price and provide import feature and streaming, but I'm not sure if there are some people that just want the import feature and don't care about streaming.

Seriously, where's my space gone?

This is driving me crazy.
My device is getting low on memory and I can't figure out where this used space is.
As you can see from my screenshots, android reports "applications" as taking up 13.36gb... I use directory bind on the top three consuming apps - MC4, NFS:MW and Asphault 8. I can confirm that these are on my SD card and I did have free space from those apps originally. I haven't used those games in a while, so I don't think they've re-downloaded to the main memory (for whatever reason).
This morning I deleted 6gb of thumbnails and did the "trick" so those large thumbnail files aren't created again, but even after deleting the files, my space remained the same.
When I use Storage Analyser, it shows that I should have 5.81gb free, which SHOULD be correct, but why isn't Android making note of that? If I drop below 500mb, I get warnings about low space and my notifications stop working, but if there really is 5.81gb free, then I'd like Android to acknowledge it.
Has anyone had this problem or have any suggestions?
i have the same issue here...
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tried to search for solution...but not available yet..
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i have the same issue here...
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tried to search for solution...but not available yet..

[Q] XBMC help - XBMC is getting quite large!

I've been running XBMC on my FireTV for a while now and I have noticed that it keeps growing in size. With only an 8GB hard drive - most of which is taken up by apps - there isn't an easy way to get rid of the old thrumnails and such that are starting to make XBMC balloon up over 2GB.
Does anyone know of a good way to prune XBMC back down to a reasonable size? An app recommendation would be best - but detailed instructions would work. I'm kinda new to FTV and really haven't edited anything - just sideloaded a few things. Thanks in advance.
Search feature and ye shall find, young grasshopper
Moving the thumbnails to SD doesn't actually address the OP's problem...jut shifts it to SD
I would assume deleting the thumbnails folder together with Textures*.db should take care of the folder size. Your XBMC will run slower after the reboot as the images will have to be cached again as needed.
I have seen Python scripts to regenerate the thumbnails faster based in installed add-ons, but I don't know how to install Python on AFTV.
You need to save the Thumbnails on some external device. You can store them on a mounted flash drive or network location if you want. Unless you do that, eventually your internal memory is going to fill up.
I use a program add-on called Thumbnails Cleaner Version 1.1.3 by Max (m4x1m) Headroom, just search for repository.m4x1m.zip on google and you will find the repo in the first links. its very easy to use and can greatly reduce you thumbnails folder
I use fusion maintenance add on to do the cleaning.

[Q] Best ROM for enabling Kodi to read external HDD by USB

Hi Guys,
I just bought my brother an ATV as a gift as he wanted a simple media player that would work well straight out of the box. I have a lot of experience with building Windows and RaspberryPi HTPC's that run Kodi, but he is far from the type who likes fiddling and 'hacking' so I thought a Fire TV would be a better solution.
We live in Australia, so I knew that most of the channels wouldn't work here with out a VPN but was disappointed to find that the USB port doesn't support mounting of an external HDD. I really should have read the fine print closer before buying, but all my brother really wanted to do was play movies off his external drive and so far the ATV has turned out to be a unusable paperweight.
I've suggested he upgrade to a NAS for his home network, but in the meantime I've been investigating other options. I have plenty of experience in rooting my android phones and loading custom ROMS and I know that this is all possible with the ATV.
Could anyone out there suggest the best option (ie. the name of a specific custom ROM) for achieving the following:
1. Loading straight into Kodi
2. Supporting USB external storage
3. Google Play for downloading apps for all other streaming services.
Thanks
randommonth said:
Hi Guys,
I just bought my brother an ATV as a gift as he wanted a simple media player that would work well straight out of the box. I have a lot of experience with building Windows and RaspberryPi HTPC's that run Kodi, but he is far from the type who likes fiddling and 'hacking' so I thought a Fire TV would be a better solution.
We live in Australia, so I knew that most of the channels wouldn't work here with out a VPN but was disappointed to find that the USB port doesn't support mounting of an external HDD. I really should have read the fine print closer before buying, but all my brother really wanted to do was play movies off his external drive and so far the ATV has turned out to be a unusable paperweight.
I've suggested he upgrade to a NAS for his home network, but in the meantime I've been investigating other options. I have plenty of experience in rooting my android phones and loading custom ROMS and I know that this is all possible with the ATV.
Could anyone out there suggest the best option (ie. the name of a specific custom ROM) for achieving the following:
1. Loading straight into Kodi
2. Supporting USB external storage
3. Google Play for downloading apps for all other streaming services.
Thanks
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You need root for all those things. Amazon is supposed to open up the usb port with a soon*to be released update.
KLit75 said:
You need root for all those things. Amazon is supposed to open up the usb port with a soon*to be released update.
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Thanks for the prompt response.
Yep, it looks like external USB storage will be enabled in the next update, however there is doubt over whether local file access (ie. for movies etc) will be permitted. Do you have any proof that it will work?
Otherwise it looks like I'll still be needing to root and install a custom ROM, which is no problem for me.
I'm just having trouble tracking down the name of a suitable ROM...?
randommonth said:
Thanks for the prompt response.
Yep, it looks like external USB storage will be enabled in the next update, however there is doubt over whether local file access (ie. for movies etc) will be permitted. Do you have any proof that it will work?
Otherwise it looks like I'll still be needing to root and install a custom ROM, which is no problem for me.
I'm just having trouble tracking down the name of a suitable ROM...?
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Well, first...rooting is not so simple. I have no idea how the units arrive in Australia but if its anything like Germany and the UK, you just can't do it except maybe by hardware which very few have done. Amazon's gone through great lengths to prevent root (lookup efuse to give you an idea. Sorry.
Second, we don't have any custom ROMs yet. We have prerooted firmware that enables rooted users to enjoy updated features and bug fixes but its identical to the amazon updates (same ui)
You know...this news about the USB port is like 3 days old. Like you, I noticed the talk was more around games. I honestly have no idea if they can restrict personal media but if they can I think they will. But for the sake of all the non-rooted users I hope it supports mkv and mp4 files. Good luck!
On a side note-- I downgraded to a small USB flash drive because all my media comes from network drives. The flash drive stores thumbs and very little else. This is ideal for me. If he travels a lot I guess this setup won't work but for home use its definetly the best way to go I think.

Is it possible to move data to thumb drive on firetv??

Hi chaps....
A rather quick question, As we all know the 1st gen firetv has a minimal amount of memory to be used for apps ect....
Unfortunately after a recent service provider upgrade I stupidly left the firetv on, even though I was using opendns to block updates, my new service had a change of ip address and my firetv got updated,... now for some this would not be a problem,.... but for me it's been ****e,.... horrible banners on top of screen,.... and worst of all, advertising before films start... not good for a prime user.
But there was one saving grace... I could now use the usb port to move some data off the unit to free up some space.
So I started with a few apps... no problem there,.. even Dead Trigger 2 moved most of its 50mb + over to the thumb drive.
So I thought I would give Asphalt 8 airborne a go.... initial install 58mb... extra download 1.5gb,..... now the only part that I can move is the 58mb.... wtf... why on earth can we only move just 58mb,..... surely it makes sense to have the ability to move 1.5gb .
So I just wanted to know chaps is there anyway of being able to shift this extra data or possibly sideload to firetv and then move to usb.
Also Is it possible to move kodi to firetv and would it still work correctly,.. or does it need to be available only from firetv?.
Thanks in advance chaps for any help / advice.....
Such a pity I can't root,.. as I believe it would solve a lot of problems. oh well..

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