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Looks interesting. The sales page claims lots of apps are available and high customization.
I'm a little worried because I can't find any link to an SDK.
Good luck with it.
Nice find. Please update us with your review. I'm very curious about the notifications. It says, notification alarm? ??
So, wil it show the notification? Or will it only show an icon or play a sound?
Hardware Specification:
BLE SoC: nRF51822 Bluetooth 4.0
Processor: ARM Cortex M0 32 bit processor
Memory:
FLASH: 256KB embedded
ExternalRAM: 16KB
RAM: 8KB
External FLASH: 512KB
Display Size: SHARP 1.26 inch Memory LCD
Resolution: 144 x 168 pixels
Bluetooth: -93 dBm sensitivity in Bluetooth® low energy mode
Antenna: Built-in
Sensor: 3-Axis Accelerometer
Key: Up, Down, Enter, Back
Battery: 110mAh
Vibration: ERM
Charger: Magnetic 2-pins
Certification: CE, FCC, and RoHS
Waterproof: 5ATM
Temperature: Operation 0~50'C, Storage -10~60'C
Humidity: 0~90%, Non-Condensed
Software Specification:
BLE Stack: GATT, GAP, Running Speed and Cadence
ANCS Profile: Social, Email, Incoming Call, Text Message
Features:
1. Work with iOS and Android 4.4 smartphone (Bluetooth 4.0 Or Above )
2. Clock interface customization
3. Notification alarm
4. Smartphone camera control
5. Smartphone music control
6. Find my phone
7. Battery alarm
8. Pedometer
imho, the success of any (non-standalone) smartwatch depends on the companion app that comes with it. AND knowing you'll get firmware updates (and know where to get them).
all those things that use BTNotifier or whatever version of it can't hold a candle to the like of Pebble, Sony Smartwatch 2 and Android Wear.
yes, these (china) watches are cheap, but you get what you pay for (really regret buying the U8 watch).
what kind of companion app comes with this watch?
JarlSX said:
imho, the success of any (non-standalone) smartwatch depends on the companion app that comes with it. AND knowing you'll get firmware updates (and know where to get them).
all those things that use BTNotifier or whatever version of it can't hold a candle to the like of Pebble, Sony Smartwatch 2 and Android Wear.
yes, these (china) watches are cheap, but you get what you pay for (really regret buying the U8 watch).
what kind of companion app comes with this watch?
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That's why I never speculate until I get it in my hands. Once I receive it I will let you guys know how it works, battery life, and companion app. No doubt, without a proper app - it would be just a toy.
found this watch by accident. yes please give your most detail review for this one page didnt say compatible with my phone galaxy note 2 but since both has bluetooth 4.0 i think they are compatible.
i also want to know the o/s they are using. not android wear, i think?
Isn't really active here on xda, but wanted to tell you guys that I just bought this. So lets hope for the best that it's a good device
They say that there is apps being programmed to it already so there must be some way to program our own. So if anyone gets information about how to develop to this one please tell me/the rest of us
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Isn't really active here on xda, but wanted to tell you guys that I just bought this. So lets hope for the best that it's a good device
They say that there is apps being programmed to it already so there must be some way to program our own. So if anyone gets information about how to develop to this one please tell me/the rest of us
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seems good
Looks great.
Will it be full compatible with an One Plus One? Thinking if it will work with an OPPO Find 7, I believe OnePlus One will made too...
Hmm is this has speakers and microphones so I can receive and make calls? (By connected to my mobile of course) . Need to decide between this or IKWEAR IK8 haha
Just got it today (DHL shipping was very fast).
First impression, it's very lightweight and thin. Magnetic charging cable is very much like in Pebble. The watch face is always on and you can enable backlight and motion (turns backlight as you move the wrist). Paired up OK with my Note 2. There is "weloop" app in Play store, but not everything is enabled in there yet. It seems that iPhone app is more complete while they are still working on Google app.
As of right now, from the app you can select Message Filtering and choose apps whose notification you want to be displayed on your watch. So you can get all your email notifications, txt message notification, phone calls, etc. There is also a way to access all recent notification history. You can use it as a remote shutter to take pictures and videos, and it controls music playback on your phone. The watchface replacement, silent alarm, and fitness app are not enabled yet, though it has a built-in pedometer to track number of steps, burned calories, and a total walking distance (though not sure how accurate it is).
It doesn't have android wear or any sort of android OS, it has it's own proprietary OS. There is no speaker or mic, obviously for battery conservation. One neat thing, I was able to check its firmware and it got updated over the air, no need to do manual fw update.
For now, this is just initial impression. Hopefully they will update android app version to enable all the features, especially changing the watchface of this clock. Once app is finalized and updated, i will write a detailed review with pictures.
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Just got it today (DHL shipping was very fast).
First impression, it's very lightweight and thin. Magnetic charging cable is very much like in Pebble. The watch face is always on and you can enable backlight and motion (turns backlight as you move the wrist). Paired up OK with my Note 2. There is "weloop" app in Play store, but not everything is enabled in there yet. It seems that iPhone app is more complete while they are still working on Google app.
As of right now, from the app you can select Message Filtering and choose apps whose notification you want to be displayed on your watch. So you can get all your email notifications, txt message notification, phone calls, etc. There is also a way to access all recent notification history. You can use it as a remote shutter to take pictures and videos, and it controls music playback on your phone. The watchface replacement, silent alarm, and fitness app are not enabled yet, though it has a built-in pedometer to track number of steps, burned calories, and a total walking distance (though not sure how accurate it is).
It doesn't have android wear or any sort of android OS, it has it's own proprietary OS. There is no speaker or mic, obviously for battery conservation. One neat thing, I was able to check its firmware and it got updated over the air, no need to do manual fw update.
For now, this is just initial impression. Hopefully they will update android app version to enable all the features, especially changing the watchface of this clock. Once app is finalized and updated, i will write a detailed review with pictures.
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Can you post some photos especially with the screen on. I want to see how it's look like especially the screen pixelation.
vectron said:
Just got it today (DHL shipping was very fast).
First impression, it's very lightweight and thin. Magnetic charging cable is very much like in Pebble. The watch face is always on and you can enable backlight and motion (turns backlight as you move the wrist). Paired up OK with my Note 2. There is "weloop" app in Play store, but not everything is enabled in there yet. It seems that iPhone app is more complete while they are still working on Google app.
As of right now, from the app you can select Message Filtering and choose apps whose notification you want to be displayed on your watch. So you can get all your email notifications, txt message notification, phone calls, etc. There is also a way to access all recent notification history. You can use it as a remote shutter to take pictures and videos, and it controls music playback on your phone. The watchface replacement, silent alarm, and fitness app are not enabled yet, though it has a built-in pedometer to track number of steps, burned calories, and a total walking distance (though not sure how accurate it is).
It doesn't have android wear or any sort of android OS, it has it's own proprietary OS. There is no speaker or mic, obviously for battery conservation. One neat thing, I was able to check its firmware and it got updated over the air, no need to do manual fw update.
For now, this is just initial impression. Hopefully they will update android app version to enable all the features, especially changing the watchface of this clock. Once app is finalized and updated, i will write a detailed review with pictures.
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Where is the Android support app? I can't find anything in the Play Store. Also, please post pics!
The app is here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yf.smart.weloop - and it's the same one if you download directly from weloop.cn (second link at the top in the upper right corner, brings up QR scan for the direct link). Unfortunately, a lot of the info is still in Chinese. As a matter of fact, I had to try a few options to figure out how to switch Chinese to English in the setup of the watch.
What I can say is that hardware and design are SOLID! Been using it for a day, still at 100% battery. It does all the basic notifications, and extra (with fitness stuff, music control, camera control). The app is a work in progress and from what I understand it's more complete for iPhones while Android is next. I also see they have a big community (all in Chinese, unfortunately) with people posting with their suggestion and reporting problems (per Google translator). So, it definitely got a lot of support and can only get better from here.
I will post a TON of pictures later today, but a full review will have to wait until I see a more polished app update. Just keep in mind, this is not Android Wear or modified Android OS watch. This is a very good clone similar to Pebble design with proprietary fw. I think the key here is a very long battery life, durability and waterproof rating, small and thin and lightweight, and all the basic notifications and controls (with vibration). There is no high res graphics in there, but the watch face is always ON and it can last weeks. I was just using it outside and even without backlight - it has a "sharp" contract (no pun intended since it uses Sharp screen and great visibility in a direct sunlight.
I changed my original post to a FULL detailed Review with a TON of pictures!!!
So, please go back to the Post #1 of this Thread to check it out!!!
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I changed my original post to a FULL detailed Review with a TON of pictures!!!
So, please go back to the Post #1 of this Thread to check it out!!!
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Thanks! It's a shame the Play Store app is unavailable for download in Poland though...
vectron said:
I changed my original post to a FULL detailed Review with a TON of pictures!!!
So, please go back to the Post #1 of this Thread to check it out!!!
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Thanks a lot for your review and the pics! :good: Its cool you got it although DX.com says the Shipping beginns at Sep. the 15th. Seems like it was a nice suprise as the DHL-guy came :laugh:.
I have two questions you may could answer: 1. will it work with Android 4.3 devices? I know they say it does only support 4.4 but maybe they just say so, because they cant guarantee it will work with ANY 4.3 device at the time.
2. Do you think it is possible to change the strap? It doesnt look like an standard-srap, you say, but is it ever changeable? I am not a great fan of that TPU-straps.
THX
EDIT: @TomaszD84 - try the QR-Code from weloop.cn, it appears when you click on the 2nd of the 3 buttons in the upper right corner
Saw the device while browsing DX couple days ago, looked really promising and the YouTube ad looked really professional. I'm intrigued by the battery life, the only thing that has kept me from getting a smart watch is the pathetic battery lives of the watches. I don't need to charge my wristwatch(yeah so 90's...) every night. Can you tell more about the battery life now that you've used the device for some time?
If it had speaker and mic, I'd get one right away...
Yes indeed, it was a surprise to receive it so fast. As you can understand by visiting a link in my sig, I write hundreds of gadget and accessories reviews and get my review samples from manufacturers direct or through retailers such as dx.com since they can communicate with me in English. I guess it's a brand new product, and personally I'm excited about it because I have been following SmartWatches for awhile now.
I will try to see what's going on with that wristband but it doesn't look like a standard 22mm band, that's for sure.
4.3 vs 4.4, I remember notification was introduced in 4.3 where it worked before with my MetaWatch and older 4.3 on my Note 2 before the 4.4.2 stock update. But I can't say for sure if it will work for you. Might have to root to 4.4
Regarding battery, this is my 2nd day with a watch with a semi light weekend use. Will give you an update a week later. Right now it's still at 100%.
Just been out for a run for the first time with my SW3.
I had Runtastic Pro running on my phone, however on my watch I could get displayed was the Time, Distance and Calories.
Does anyone else that uses Android Wear and Runtastic know how to get it to display your pace?
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Just been out for a run for the first time with my SW3.
I had Runtastic Pro running on my phone, however on my watch I could get displayed was the Time, Distance and Calories.
Does anyone else that uses Android Wear and Runtastic know how to get it to display your pace?
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Same issue here. I hope a new version with support for standalone GPS will be available soon with possibility to choose the indicator we want.
Flav106 said:
Same issue here. I hope a new version with support for standalone GPS will be available soon with possibility to choose the indicator we want.
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Ah so its not just me then! Thought I may have missed a setting somewhere!
Must admit I was pretty stunned that it dosent show pace, especially as that app is running on the phone with that information available!
Received an email back from Runtatsic - Basically they will forward the suggestions onto the development team.
Think I will purchase SyncMyTracks from the Play Store and start using RunKeeper. Their development seems to be a lot quicker when it comes to the Sony SmartWatch 3. Had the beta app for less then a week and its already seen numerous updates.
I've bought a Fossil Q-Explorist, which also runs on AW 2
In settings / Sound&News
you'll find "vibration pattern" on this watch
That's missing on my Huawei Watch!
I thought, that Android Wear is always the same at all watches with the same features
can anyone explain this behaviour, or better offer a solution?
This would be really a nice feature, because of the low vibration, especially on the Huawei Watch
The software status looks like the same on both watches!
rg
This wasn't a feature included when 2.0 came out. Watches that have received a new update since July have it. I'm sure when the watch gets its next update it will get it.
Hi all,
I've noticed the Alfawise Tab tablet on Gearbest Mod Edit: Selling site link removed.
As reviewed by some, this tablet seems great at a very low cost. It has the screen, the sounds, the battery, the form factor etc...
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Sadly, searching for at least a "support" or "download firmware" doesn't return any results.
It only has Android 6 with security patches from March 2016.
I'm a bit concerned about security, but not that much, since I only use my current tablet for reading and browsing (so... a pdf reader and Chrome is enough).
I've seen in some other review that an anti-malware check returned nothing (minute 5m 24s, in the view below). So, this tablet may be clean, just the software outdated.
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So, I'm just interested in BUGS right now, if any. The iFive tablet seems to also have an outdated Android 6 version and it has some pretty annoying issues mentioned HERE, on XDA forums
If you have this tablet, please tell me: what bugs did you find? Force crashes of apps, deadlocks, SoD, etc... ?
Kind regards
I have the tablet since last week now...
i have to say I have several Android tablet Teclast x98Air, x98Air2, Cube i7, iFive 4S... I have rooted all my tablet, some by mounting a factory system partition on my computer and manually adding su binaries. I switched also to iPad mini 4 for 1 year and half or so... In short, I know what kind of issue you can meet and what is a good tablet according to chinese standard and can compare with other kind of devices...
The Alfawise Tab is an amazing piece of hardware AND software for the bucks :
Hardware :
- Good Audio
- Slim. Not as much as an iPad mini but slimmer then iFive 4s (which is a ****ing piece of crap).
- Great screen : it's 1536 x 2048. Clear, bright... You get it.
- USB-C charge.
- Storage seems fast enough.
- Decent battery life.
- It's metal. Not ****ty plastic like iFive.
- Good build according to chinese standard. Not as good as Xiaomi but still pretty good. Better than Teclast.
Software :
- No bloatware, crapware, ****ware of any kind... It's stock Android. Period.
- Fully loaded with google suite : Appstore and the whole google ecosystem (map, book, film, chatting stuffs, music, assistant, youtube).
- NO SoD, NO crash, no infamous shutdown... Nothing. The thing is as stable and smooth as swiss clock.
- It's fast. NO lags. (But i idn't test any game. And I'm more like puzzle game than car or fight).
Only downside : I couldn't find any factory rom on the web, neither boot image. There is no "su" binary in the system partition (???), the rom is a production one and adb root is disabled so there is no way to make a dump of boot and system partition as a backup or material to root or custom rom (as far as I know). Couldn't find a way to contact Alfawise. There is no contact form or any information on that matter on their website to ask them to release the factory rom for public consumption.
Great reply, @w1nst0n sm1th, and I totally agree with you about the downsides!
w1nst0n sm1th said:
I have the tablet since last week now...
Only downside : I couldn't find any factory rom on the web, neither boot image. There is no "su" binary in the system partition (???), the rom is a production one and adb root is disabled so there is no way to make a dump of boot and system partition as a backup or material to root or custom rom (as far as I know). Couldn't find a way to contact Alfawise. There is no contact form or any information on that matter on their website to ask them to release the factory rom for public consumption.
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First of all, thank you very much for replying with such useful information. I too noticed the PROs of this and I'm glad you confirmed them.
As for the downsides, yes!, those quoted concern me the most. No support, no contact, no "download firmware" section.
However, this is not really that bad, given that other popular brands in China will make you almost flash a new ROM when they release an update (no OTA or not working).
For example, the iFive is backed by a s***ty website with updates and support. Each update is tagged with a hardware version. In their case, you have to update the right tablet with the corresponding ROM, otherwise you are probably screwed. (please correct me if I'm wrong regarding the updating process in the case of iFive)
I prefer a stable OS with no updates and no support page :good: rather than an unstable OS , with updates that patch the issues reported on an official support page.
Thank you again for your opinion.
I hope others will join this thread with hands-on experiences.
@w1nst0n sm1th do you feel like it's a good upgrade from ifive mini 4s (battery life, audio output, video decoding)? have you tried 10 bit videos? thinking of upgrading, using it mostly for reading, watching x265 videos & Twitch.
looks like they can be contacted through here : https://www.alfawise.com/category-contact
w1nst0n sm1th said:
I have the tablet since last week now...
i have to say I have several Android tablet Teclast x98Air, x98Air2, Cube i7, iFive 4S... I have rooted all my tablet, some by mounting a factory system partition on my computer and manually adding su binaries. I switched also to iPad mini 4 for 1 year and half or so... In short, I know what kind of issue you can meet and what is a good tablet according to chinese standard and can compare with other kind of devices...
The Alfawise Tab is an amazing piece of hardware AND software for the bucks :
Hardware :
- Good Audio
- Slim. Not as much as an iPad mini but slimmer then iFive 4s (which is a ****ing piece of crap).
- Great screen : it's 1536 x 2048. Clear, bright... You get it.
- USB-C charge.
- Storage seems fast enough.
- Decent battery life.
- It's metal. Not ****ty plastic like iFive.
- Good build according to chinese standard. Not as good as Xiaomi but still pretty good. Better than Teclast.
Software :
- No bloatware, crapware, ****ware of any kind... It's stock Android. Period.
- Fully loaded with google suite : Appstore and the whole google ecosystem (map, book, film, chatting stuffs, music, assistant, youtube).
- NO SoD, NO crash, no infamous shutdown... Nothing. The thing is as stable and smooth as swiss clock.
- It's fast. NO lags. (But i idn't test any game. And I'm more like puzzle game than car or fight).
Only downside : I couldn't find any factory rom on the web, neither boot image. There is no "su" binary in the system partition (???), the rom is a production one and adb root is disabled so there is no way to make a dump of boot and system partition as a backup or material to root or custom rom (as far as I know). Couldn't find a way to contact Alfawise. There is no contact form or any information on that matter on their website to ask them to release the factory rom for public consumption.
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Hey man. Can U write something more about battery? I mean, how long can U watch videos, play games etc. Thanks
lelecureuil said:
@w1nst0n sm1th do you feel like it's a good upgrade from ifive mini 4s (battery life, audio output, video decoding)? have you tried 10 bit videos? thinking of upgrading, using it mostly for reading, watching x265 videos & Twitch.
looks like they can be contacted through here : https://www.alfawise.com/category-contact
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It's definitelly a good upgrade. Quality is clearly above iFive 4s, as well for hardware than software.
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Hey man. Can U write something more about battery? I mean, how long can U watch videos, play games etc. Thanks
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I don't really measure it. But since i had the occasion to compare with iFive 4s I bought 2 months earlier, it seemed to me the battery life lasted longer, as long as you don't leave the tablet in a state of heavy duty without putting it in deep sleep (screen switched off), like screen on with a game started on the foreground or background.
Once on heavy duty, the battery will soon decrease rapidly, but that's the case with every tablet.
Does it support Full HD Netflix?
Hi all,
Does this tablet support viewing Netflix in Full HD?
I know many of the chinese tablets do not support this due to moded or non-certified OS...
Kind regards
Dear,
Few weeks ago I bought the Alfawise Tab Tablet from Gearbest.
GREAT specs for this small device ... low priced.
Unfortunately it does not connect to my Windows 10 pc weird ???
can someone please help me how to copy and past my movies/mp3 to this tablet ???
Greetings
Phil from Belgium
Pilsor said:
Dear,
Few weeks ago I bought the Alfawise Tab Tablet from Gearbest.
GREAT specs for this small device ... low priced.
Unfortunately it does not connect to my Windows 10 pc weird ???
can someone please help me how to copy and past my movies/mp3 to this tablet ???
Greetings
Phil from Belgium
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Stupid me .... I needed the pull down menu .... and choose file transfer instead of usb charging ......omg , stupid me.
Its working now.
firmware
The tablet is a rebranded JDtab 01. In order to find firmware for this one google "needrom jdtab" (i can't post a link), but it needs a premium account, i also found it and downloaded from another site, google "panuso.com52949643", i uploaded it to my google drive (i can email the link to anyone that need it). I think it's possible to use the scatter file from the JDtab's rom to take a backup for the rom and create CWM recovery, in order to root, or even flash the entire rom to the tablet (there is a post at androidiani.com, you can google "androidiani. alfawise tab root" in order to find it. Also you can google "rom development for Mediatek MT8173 & MT8176 " , maybe you find something useful.
Bugs?
Has anyone managed to root the device , take a backup or flash Jdtab's rom? I have a problem with many apps that want to draw over other and I can't give them the permission to do it. Also there isn't a reboot selection (strange for Android 6). Another major problem is that there isn't Wi-Fi hot-spot setting and there isn't any way to activate it, (unable to use shareit or midrop). Lastly, when you power off the device and boot it again, it takes a very long time to boot.
ROOT for JDTAB
Here is a tutorial that i found, explaining hot to root JDTAB: Google "baidu5615963852"
Maybe appliable to our tablet by only flashing boot.img (if the boot.img is compatible with ours).
I also found that MTK8173 can be generally rooted with magidisk, but we can only use JDTAB'S boot.img.
So if someone is risky enough, can give it a try.
I made flashable rom zip for custom recovery (TWRp etc) using JDTAB'S stock rom for spflashtools with android kitchen. I HAVEN'T TESTED IT
Link : https://drive.google.com/file/d/11aWntKplL8p8Ik_0O5rNr5b85JKzwbs2/view
There is a MT8173 TWRP for porting, maybe someone can make a working TWRP. I used Alfawise's stock recovery and tried 3 differend methods, none worked.
Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-pad/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-1-0-mi-pad-3-cappu-t3744185
Spflashtools JDTAB rom: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ckEkkvXeqtFDjzttvDewVNFgfxWUAiIT
Alfawise tab firmware
Good news!
I managed to get the official firmware and tool from Gearbest.
So if anyone ends bricking his device, can hopefully restore it with this firmware.
I will also try to port TWRP with this stock recovery.img
Here is the alfawise image&tool download address in baidu cloud:
https://pan.baidu.com/s/12ojEZHuw16uUS42Op2qWaw
PassWord：fz8b
I will also upload it to Google Drive tomorrow.
For now, here is Alfawise's stock recovery.img and scatter: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppChA43MamPdVtli6JKnc9Hp33zHWMid
ROOT tutorial for JDTAB, probably appliable to Alfawise: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5615963852
Alfawise tab firmware
Alfawise firmware for spflashtools: https://www.needrom.com/download/alfawise-tab-firmware/
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LiMjvdKXtk5X-1Oist8MfYRhJsvSnsCP/view?usp=drivesdk
root
That also seems like a guide that may be appliable to our tablet: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/root-teclast-master-t8-t3722210
i bought the tab from gearbest. the tab switches on rarely. currently the tab wont switch on and don't know if it'll ever switch on. from day 1 i'm facing this issue. Don't know if it's the battery/ power / display issue. the charging indicator light is displayed when connected to battery. pressing the power + volume down button continuously for more than a minute is also not helping. tried charging the battery one whole night. still no luck. Any help is appreciated
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i bought the tab from gearbest. the tab switches on rarely. currently the tab wont switch on and don't know if it'll ever switch on. from day 1 i'm facing this issue. Don't know if it's the battery/ power / display issue. the charging indicator light is displayed when connected to battery. pressing the power + volume down button continuously for more than a minute is also not helping. tried charging the battery one whole night. still no luck. Any help is appreciated
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First try to hold the power button pressed over 15 seconds . If that doesn't help, try to reflash the official firmware.
Still no luck
radicalx said:
First try to hold the power button pressed over 15 seconds . If that doesn't help, try to reflash the official firmware.
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Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, reflashing the official firmware too didn't help resolve the issue.
chand_0466 said:
Thanks for the tips. Unfortunately, reflashing the official firmware too didn't help resolve the issue.
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In this case you should open a Ticket to Gearbest (do not mention that you reflashed the firmware).
Hello,
it seems we are close to get the update to Android 12 on our device:
Sony rolls out stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I
Sony has started rolling out the stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I. Read on to know more.
www.xda-developers.com
Has not been arrived yet on my device (EEA, germany). Any experiences with Android 12 on 10 III so far?
code010101 said:
Hello,
it seems we are close to get the update to Android 12 on our device:
Sony rolls out stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I
Sony has started rolling out the stable Android 12 update to the Xperia 10 III and Xperia Pro-I. Read on to know more.
www.xda-developers.com
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Yes, CUSTOMIZED EEA 62.1.A.0.533 (Android 12) was released ( https://xpericheck.com/XQ-BT52 ) 4 days ago, but according to the phone update check and Xperia Companion, no software update is available. Phone is using stock firmware, WiFi/4G is available and I have made several restarts. However when CUSTOMIZED EEA 62.0.A.9.11 (Android 11 update) was released month ago, I got it right away, at the same release day.
Based Reddit, a lot users are facing same problem. Some say that software repair using the Xperia Companion pushes update to phone. But I don't want to and I don't have time to reset my phone and set up everything, including every app settings from scratch.
ksuuk said:
But I don't want to and I don't have time to reset my phone and set up everything, including every app settings from scratch.
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After switching from 11 to 12 android, you need to make a mandatory reset to the factory with the removal of all data in order to avoid bugs.
liwetlt said:
After switching from 11 to 12 android, you need to make a mandatory reset to the factory with the removal of all data in order to avoid bugs.
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it is folklore, no such need at all.
I have received the update (62.1.A.0.533) this morning.
Installation took around 45 minutes.
Haven't had any technical issues per se so far, but am still struggling with the look and feel of Android 12.
i have been using the phone for almost a week now after the new update (62.1.A.0.533), i haven't done any factory resets, here is what i noticed:
1. Battery is draining a lot faster than Android 11
2. UI is a bit bulky, especially the toggle buttons. Definitely preferred Android 11
3. Screen Mirroring is not working for me. WFD service keeps crashing (that's a major issue because i mirror all my videos)
4. I had previously mapped the power button (click twice) to GCAM. Now it's not working. Only works with the stock Camera
Overall, a negative experience. I would not recommend the update.
If anyone else is facing issues please let me know
mangobanana said:
I have received the update (62.1.A.0.533) this morning.
Installation took around 45 minutes.
Haven't had any technical issues per se so far, but am still struggling with the look and feel of Android 12.
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Post some screenshots of Android 12 on your Xperia, please.
Do you have separate toggles for wifi and mobile internet?
@Elberens, the same question for you too )
Hi guys, please keep us informed on how Android 12 behaves on the Xperia 10 III.
Hope that the battery drain reported by Elberens is just an isolated case, did you realized what is causing the drain? The app Better Battery Stats can help in detecting the cause of an abnormal power consumption:
[APP][2.2+][11 Dec. 2022 - V3.1] BetterBatteryStats
I started BetterBatteryStats because I was missing the great battery history that Spare Parts allowed to call on Froyo. It has been a long journey since the first version. BetterBatteryStats provides an insight in following categories: - General...
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I got the update notification yesterday and installed last night. So far I'm not having any technical or performance issues. All seems to be working. Still, I find the new UI a big step backwards in comparison to Android 11. Everything is so much bigger (menus, quick settings) using lots of dead space.
There aren't separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Mobile Data internet. You can't turn on or off with one tap. You have to open a submenu now...
The quick settings toggles are way bigger. You get only 4 in two lines when sliding down (or 8 if you slide with two fingers or twice). Which means that you will be needing an extra step for some actions.
I'm missing the functionality where on Android 11 I could use Google pay right away when holding the power button. Now there is a toggle in the quick settings instead (again extra step to use). Instead there is just a restart, shutdown and emergency menu if you hold the power button.
I don't get the new features of android 12 or it just doesn't seem to make a difference for my uses. The new bigger quick settings are annoying for me and if I had known before, I wouldn't have updated. If there was an easy way to roll back to 11 I would happily do it. But I guess I can't do that without flashing an older firmware on the phone. Maybe a future update would allow to make the quick menus a bit smaller?
geokirby said:
There aren't separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Mobile Data internet. You can't turn on or off with one tap. You have to open a submenu now..
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I've read somewhere that after factory reset the separate toggles for wifi and mobile data internet would show up.
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Sony's Android 12 update has separate toggles for Wi-Fi and Data, but only if you factory reset
The Android 12 update for the Sony Xperia 1 III and Xperia 5 III ships with separate toggles for Wi-Fi and mobile data.
www.xda-developers.com
another way:
[....] if you want to get back a dedicated button to toggle your Wi-Fi, Mishaal Rahman shared a command on Twitter that you can execute via adb to get it back.
adb shell settings put secure sysui_qs_tiles "$(settings get secure sysui_qs_tiles),wifi"
Right this morning I got the message of a System Update from Sony (I live in Italy).
I think I'll wait some days before update, would be like to read more feedbacks on how the device behaves under Android 12, in particular concerning the battery draining, I quite happy with my Xperia 10 III that overnight (9pm to 8am) drains just a ridiculous 3%.
Elberens said:
i have been using the phone for almost a week now after the new update (62.1.A.0.533), i haven't done any factory resets, here is what i noticed:
1. Battery is draining a lot faster than Android 11
2. UI is a bit bulky, especially the toggle buttons. Definitely preferred Android 11
3. Screen Mirroring is not working for me. WFD service keeps crashing (that's a major issue because i mirror all my videos)
4. I had previously mapped the power button (click twice) to GCAM. Now it's not working. Only works with the stock Camera
Overall, a negative experience. I would not recommend the update.
If anyone else is facing issues please let me know
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1) Recheck again app -s permissions, disable or uninstall unwanted ones, disable location wifi/bluetooth scan and wait for few days until the battery is calibrated and user habits/trends are known for the operating system.
Also You may try enable system cached apps under developer options -
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS21/comments/r7tdta
2) It can't be changed, and you have to get used to it and hope that some update will fix/change it.
3) This is something new.
4) Have You tried XPERI+ for remap - https://github.com/ivaniskandar/shouko
You must agree this is a rather ingenious way of getting people to update their systems regularly. You're not told beforehand what the update changes, and only afterwards do you notice that the update was a downgrade in every single aspect. You want to swear that you'll never install a system update ever again, yet you know that you will have to do just that in the hopes that eventually some update will fix what the previous ones broke.
I must admit as much I agree that a proper changelog should be displayed before any update, I do like that android 12 update. Getting older (ok, I'm not that old) I'm pretty happy with the bigger/new layout
matmutant said:
I must admit as much I agree that a proper changelog should be displayed before any update, I do like that android 12 update. Getting older (ok, I'm not that old) I'm pretty happy with the bigger/new layout
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On the stock Android 11 you can make the UI big from Settings > Display > Display size. This is in addition to and separate from Settings > Display > Font size. So I still think the forced size in Android 12 was not necessary...
I updated my device on Saturday, everything went OK. I'm rather satisfied with the new UI, display size and font size can be adjusted as in Android 11, some aspects are nice, some others less, on the other hand it's impossible to create a UI that is good for everybody. There are a lot of launchers and ways to customize the appearance of a smartphone, so this is not a problem in my view. Apart from the graphical aspect, Android 12 brings new interesting features and I think this is more important.
I appreciate that Sony kept the media volume steps equal to 30, which is finer enough for listening music. At the moment, the power usage seems to be as before, my device drained only 3% overnight (9pm to 8am) as with android 11, and that's great.
The smartphone seems responsive and fluid, I didn't explored all the functionalities yet, but I would say that this update is OK.
Is it just me or do apps 'reload' more often after the update? I feel like caching of background apps is worse but I'm not sure.
Other than that and the combined internet toggle, this update is alright.
The overall app managing should be more optimized in Android 12, however you could try the above mentioned option in the Developer settings (suspend execution of cached app).
There are just a couple of commands to be sent via ADB the to restore separate wifi/mobile toggles, I'm waiting to see how is to deal with the combined internet one.
Comakip said:
Is it just me or do apps 'reload' more often after the update? I feel like caching of background apps is worse but I'm not sure.
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Noticed this too. For example, if I use "Simple Gallery Pro" from F-Droid to browse through some videos and I open a video with Kodi, then after I'm done watching the video and return to the Simple Gallery app, it will often reload, forcing me to navigate the folder structure once again.
I didn't have this issue with Android 11 - returning to the gallery app would bring me back to where I left when Kodi was launched. I'll try changing that setting mentioned above by @code010101 to see if it helps.