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I think i've posted this in the right section, but if not, my apologies in advance...
One thing that has confused me a bit, is all the added applications (which i never use) that come with the standard stock roms..
i.e: Footprints, Peep, Teeter, Stocks. (as examples).
I have to say i'm a fan of the HTC Sense experience. I've tried a few other custom ROM's, which were great but eventually went back to stock (just because i liked the sense features).
From all the ROM's ive seen and read about, none seem to be a full Sense interface, with minimal apps pre-loaded. Unless i'm having trouble with my reading !
I like the sound of the GB upgrade, but it sounds a bit incomplete. And i'm unsure weather to wait a while to see what's developed from it, or load it.
***** my question is this... *****
Is it possible, or are there plans within the XDA dev community to develop the HTC Desire GB ROM just released, into something polished and more mainstream for general users (like myself). with the minimum required pre-loaded apps for functionality. Then each individual could install apps from market that are important and useful to them. With full HTC sense feature.
Would this also save memory, reducing the number of pre-loaded apps?
Only apps removed, but included in the zip as apk are flashlight and teeter. The rest can be downloaded from the market. I'm not sure I understand completely why do you think this is not a 'complete' Sense experience?
erklat said:
Only apps removed, but included in the zip as apk are flashlight and teeter. The rest can be downloaded from the market. I'm not sure I understand completely why do you think this is not a 'complete' Sense experience?
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im just guessing at the "not complete sense experience" as its a developer release.
How stable is it, and is it suitable for general consumers to update to?
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im just guessing at the "not complete sense experience" as its a developer release.
How stable is it, and is it suitable for general consumers to update to?
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I flashed it as it came out and for me it is completely stable.
You may a well not bother with the update. A lot of people think that its not worth losing root and not able to get it back. Devs will use it though so expect some cool things to come out soon. NeoPhyte has already released the update into his rom that isn't a hybrid. If you give it a little time you will be able to try the update out without losing root.
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Hi dsbnz,
I agree with every word you said.
I also like sense and the being-stock feeling.
Since I did not find anything that suits my needs I created my own Rom. I actually rooted the last official gb Rom with dsixda, removed some bloatware introduced by HTC (eg peep, stock, live wallpapers, some widget I never used, etc) and all applications that can be downloaded from the market (eg maps, gmail, voice search, etc).
I ended up with a very nice, stable and light Rom that fits into the data++ hboot.
You can try to do something similar. It's really not that hard.
In alternative I might share what I've done. If there is some interest I have no problem in posting it here in xda.
Regards,
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In alternative I might share what I've done. If there is some interest I have no problem in posting it here in xda.
Regards,
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well, spit it out please
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wally80 said:
Hi dsbnz,
I agree with every word you said.
I also like sense and the being-stock feeling.
Since I did not find anything that suits my needs I created my own Rom. I actually rooted the last official gb Rom with dsixda, removed some bloatware introduced by HTC (eg peep, stock, live wallpapers, some widget I never used, etc) and all applications that can be downloaded from the market (eg maps, gmail, voice search, etc).
I ended up with a very nice, stable and light Rom that fits into the data++ hboot.
You can try to do something similar. It's really not that hard.
In alternative I might share what I've done. If there is some interest I have no problem in posting it here in xda.
Regards,
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I'm quite liking the sound of what youve done with your rom. I'm somewhat minimalistic, and like the bare minimum apps included in an OS.
i'd really like some of the new capabilities of the new GB rom (i.e "reboot" added to power menu, Wifi-N etc). If that rom could be fine tuned to pretty much as youve done with your's i'd install it. Actually until then if you're is stock (2.29?) without the fat. i'd be even happier having that while i wait
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i'd really like some of the new capabilities of the new GB rom (i.e "reboot" added to power menu, Wifi-N etc). If that rom could be fine tuned to pretty much as youve done with your's i'd install it. Actually until then if you're is stock (2.29?) without the fat. i'd be even happier having that while i wait
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Mine is not based on 2.29 but on 3.14 (the last GB release of few days ago), so it already includes the capabilities you are talking about.
I'll find a way to upload it here (any suggestion?).
I just didn't think it could catch some interest, since all other roms here are full of additional stuff/features/mods while I kept mine very simple and as close as possible to a bloatware-free stock.
I love Sense. Trouble is with the new official GingerBread its got old Sense. That's why I came here and got a ROM with Sense 2.1. I'm going to remove some of the stuff I don't want with ADB and then, happy days a ROM to my liking
dsbnz said:
im just guessing at the "not complete sense experience" as its a developer release.
How stable is it, and is it suitable for general consumers to update to?
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That rant is covering their backs against horde of buffalos, the same one who scream this is their last HTC device. Good riddance
First line - this is for experienced users. Or they have massively misunderstood the term 'developer'. This is THE update. Stable and official. No beta as they seem to sprout all over this place. Lol beta
minimalistic ROM
Hi again,
Given your interest in the ROM I created this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200466
I am currently uploading the ROM. The link will be online shortly.
Edit: link is online. ;-)
Regards
wally80 said:
Hi again,
Given your interest in the ROM I created this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200466
I am currently uploading the ROM. The link will be online shortly.
Edit: link is online. ;-)
Regards
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Fantastic thanks!. before i get flashing is there any specific procedure to upgrading with this rom you've provided? Also, from what i've read (if ive read it correctly), upgrading to the new rom from HTC removes any chance of downgrading to 2.29/rooting etc. same case with your rom?
Cheers, and thanks to everyone who's commented all great feedback.
Glad that it helped...
If you have questions about the ROM can you please post them in the Rom thread? So that I don't have to keep track of both threads.
In this way also people reading the ROM thread can benefit.
Br,
wally80 said:
Glad that it helped...
If you have questions about the ROM can you please post them in the Rom thread? So that I don't have to keep track of both threads.
In this way also people reading the ROM thread can benefit.
Br,
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cool thanks again, will redirect to the rom thread with questions
Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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Hello guys !
Im a newbie and i have a question. Which is more secure and stable ? A Custom Rom or Stock Rom ?
Which do you use an recommend, Stock or Custom Rom ? Its not a question about which Custom Rom ;-)
If there is already a similar Thread, i apologize...
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The stock rom is probably what you want to stay on for stability. if you want really cool customization and tweaks go with a custom rom, but remember if you are on a custom rom you cant take OTA updates from google.
I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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You have to remember that the majority of people probably dont want a phone which they can customise in any which way that they want. Google need to cater for the masses and create an OS that is at least relatively simple.
Individuals on forums such as these however, feel differently and love the chance for customization. The developers working on after market ROMS create those options and customizations for people that really want them. And their ROMS are based on the source code provided by Google and their many employees - so nothing is lost in that sense.
This is what I think any way!
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Are they all "better"? No. Do they offer more features/customization? Yes. Do these features/customization often break something that already works? Yes.
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I know that, but I think also about, is it really possible, that maybe 10 people can make a better Rom? Google has many employees which working on this for long time. Sorry my english isnt perfect, I hope you understand what I mean.
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Sometimes it's only one "dev" kanging code.
Regardless, we have some VERY talented devs here. And it's not like they are creating android from scratch, they are using the code that Google has open sourced, so all of the custom roms are essentially STOCK + unique features not part of AOSP. This also makes them not as stable as stock android, pick your poison
That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
its mostly about the tweaks that Google didn't put in .. all roms are the same to me since they all base off 4.0.x unless someone builds a sense or Touchwiz rom.
The only thing that makes roms different is the feature list and kernel
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That was a good answer !
Thats where is my point, di
oes it really make sense...all time Full-Wipe...backup..flash gapps...then something doesnt work..
but on the other side it looks awesome ! Its just, what do they really change ? Is it stil safe for me as user ?
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It's all very easy once you do it a few times. Customization is awesome. Like the full screen mod getting rid of the softkeys so anything that your doing (game, videos, etc) that keeps the softkeys there, will now be full screen without the softkeys. Just little things like that plus much more than make custom roms better than stock.
RogerPodacter said:
I think custom roms can often be more stable because bugs are constantly found and fixed on a daily basis. A stock rom may have a bug but will take months for the next update from google.
Also custom roms are just stock roms with additions, so its the same code base anyway.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Many people want different things, that's why there are custom roms
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So there are more people on Stock or on Custom Roms ? I heard that many people say its a "developer phone", but on the other Hand people say they bought it because they dont want to flash anymore C-Roms.
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Of course there are way more people on stock than rom flashers. People like my mom got the phone to use it, not to flash ROMs.
When people said 'it's a developer phone', it doesn't mean the phone is not suitable for daily use or only developers know how to use it. On the contrary, it's a phone that showcases how the latest OS SHOULD look and feel like. It serves as a reference point to how developers should design their apps.
Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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Good answer !
I read a lot of problems like massive battery drain or FCs etc. etc. also I read about speed improvements and great battery life. I can change already a lot of things with a different Launcher.
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The thing with all product discussion forums is, people will only post/seeking help if they ran into problems. (Will you go to a Samsung forum and start a thread with 'my TV/camera is working as intended?' ) So these forums are always filled with error reports/complaints. Sometimes it's hard to see if it's really error by design or just the unlucky few with defective devices.
XDA makes it even more complicated because this is a modding community. Half of the complaints are probably just human errors - bad flash, wrong radio, incompatible apps the list goes on...
Long answer short, you DON'T have to mod your phone to reap all its benefits. You are not missing out things if you don't want to customize it.
I completly agree, thats why I also started this thread. I was talking with some people about it. Its nice to customize, but do i need these small things with the possibility to get issues
Are you on Stock ?
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Brother man its all about what you want and love. I could nit would not run stock. I have way more fun with custom roms. But to each there own. I must say, I would never have my mother run a custom from. First I would be her tech support, next its not what she needs. But you keep having fun with what you need / do.
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Bugs are constantly found for custom ROMs because they've not been tested so much compared to stock before they are being released. (Not saying that stock is bug free but each official version has gone through aggressive testing)
If stability and security are your top concerns then stay stock - this is a no-brainer. Custom ROMs are for people who are more adventurous and want to have more fun with their phones.
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I was actually talking about bugs in stock. Its much quicker to fix them in custom roms since the fix will be rolled out in a few days, but we'd be waiting months to get the same fix from google in an update.
Sure new bugs from custom roms may appear too from the new additions. But its still all the stock code base anyway...
ROMs are usually the result of tweaking, prodding, removal to enhance the phone's ability to function. Some things aren't necessary, and some things can be made to cater to a specific user. Obviously, google cannot cater to individual needs, but that's why so many ROMs exist, you can found out what you like and stick to it!
That's why I switched to android from my iPhone 4s. I love messing with my phone, and android is the platform that encourages this
Hello, I am loving my Note 2, and I've had it for about a month now. The problem is, I don't like all the changes samsung has made in the stock rom for the phone... And all the pesky bloatware.
The last phone I had was the legendary HTC HD2. (I will never forget it!) I was always up to date with the newest Android version on a phone from the stone age. (Shout out to Tytung and all his amazing work for the HD2!)
So basically I am pretty used to the xda-forums, flashing and having my phone to be exactly how I want it to be. However, I am facing a problem with my picky-ness.
I am looking for a rom with the newest Android version 4.2, because I like the way google meant for the android to be, and I would LOVE it if there were a "clean" Android 4.2 rom for the Note 2. I have found a few of those, but the problem is that I have felt in love with Samsung's S Note-app and the ability to "split screen" (and also a couple of those fancy features, but they are not important). Which leads me to my question:
(tl;dr)
Does it exist a "clean" Android 4.2 rom for the Note 2, which either has the S Note-app and the "split-screen"function included or has an alternative way to implement the app and function into the rom?
Would be a bonus if all the S-pen features were included too, but I guess that would be much to ask.
Thank you for any attention!
Yes same here...I only managed to find a custom stock rom which looks and feels like aosp with the option to remove bloatwares and just leave the spen features.
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An alternative option could be to make a flashable zip with all the S Pen apps and features, which would make it easier for everyone. Then my problem would have been solved. A zip that works with most of the roms, you know.
It would also have been easier for developers, as you could leave it as an open choice whether to implement the S Pen apps/features in the rom or not.
I hope someone could answer me whether this is possible or not. Or maybe tell me the chances of it being done. I am no developer myself, but I think this could be a great idea!!
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Hello! This is my first post and i want to know if anyone is making an AOSP rom for this device? It appears that this device is really laggy and stutters here and there. The Geodev rom is based on AOSP i think but don't know how the rom is doing right now and i can't comment on it because this is only my first post. MAY I KNOW WHO HERE IS TRYING TO GET AOSP FOR OUR DEVICE BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY OF MAKING THIS SMOOTH. Thanks everyone! Cheers!
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Hello! This is my first post and i want to know if anyone is making an AOSP rom for this device? It appears that this device is really laggy and stutters here and there. The Geodev rom is based on AOSP i think but don't know how the rom is doing right now and i can't comment on it because this is only my first post. MAY I KNOW WHO HERE IS TRYING TO GET AOSP FOR OUR DEVICE BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY WAY OF MAKING THIS SMOOTH. Thanks everyone! Cheers!
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As of now, Geodev is the only one in development. If you're trying to get your post count up, go to the XDA General section and post in the new members forum or the off topic lounge.
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imho that geodev thing sounds shady at best.
If you would decide to port a custom rom to a new device, would you really start by porting KitKat if the device
currently only runs jellybean? Wouldn't it be easier to use the stock kernel for now to get cm10 running
and then wait paitiently until htc releases the kernel src to make it a full unofficial cm10 build.
Instead this sounds more like taking the existing source of a hopefully hardware compatible build
and bending it until it brea.. ehm works.
I may be biased, but if you plan to make any kind of release you usually don't go and announce it to the world.
This only encourages the rather impatient endusers to come up with many variations of the same old:
"i need my rls now!", "I am entitled to a release because I found this thread","GIMME RLS!!!11oneeleven"
posts that will just annoy the crap out of every dev I've ever met. Also there is absolutely no point in asking for
beta testers before you even have a working build ready.
Combine that with the recent e-begging post and draw your own conclusions.
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[...] I can't continue developing until someone gift me new computer (or motherboard only). [...]
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In any case, for the time being it might be a good idea to check if there are some services you could deactivate
in order to get a little bit more speed out of your phone. I personally have no problems with lags, but maybe
it's because I don't expect the phone to run every app ever made at the same time since it has only 512MB RAM.
Hi,
I have little knowledge of android and Roms development, but I understand it was very difficult to develop for aftv given amazon restrictions.
Now, given the accomplishments in unlocking the boot loader, what prevents from a bunch of new Roms to appear? I live outside the us, so amazon ROM is quite useless, very slow, prevents me from having a decent UI (I know I could use xposed modules, but I don't think they solve the issue of the system being quite overloaded by useless stuff).
I was wondering why don't we get at least some clean aosp images to play with. TechVendetta is making a very nice experiment with cm12 on lollipop, but he also runs in the issues of this system being quite new. Can't we get anything based on 4.4.4? That's mature and stable now I guess. Is the issue just in having a decent TV UI?
Sorry, I know I could start studying and do this myself, I am not blaming anybody, just trying to understand better
Thanks!
i agree with you. TV UI is nice, but also having a clean decent 4.4.4 rom or even 4.2.2 would be very helpfull.
Quite a lot launcher can be controlled (after setting up with mice) via remote. I'm also in the beginning of ripping useless Amazon Stuff off my aftv (do a backup of recent System Apk's via titanbackup and then afterwards uninstall them). If we might get a Clean 4.4.4 than even a cool launcher might be usefull
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theatreinabox.android.codered
So if there are any other dev's outside, or someone knew one he might ask them in jump on AFTV