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Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?
No.
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lys2002123 said:
Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?
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define uncomfortable
did you not know this tablet had 4.3 stock?
Midnight_Rider said:
define uncomfortable
did you not know this tablet had 4.3 stock?
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I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.
lys2002123 said:
I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.
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ahh yes that's true, there may be stuff out there that won't work on 4.3. Only thing i can say about that is to contact the dev and wait for an update to the app. i know that's not what you wanted to hear, sorry. other than that though how do you like it? i got mine a few days ago and its been fantastic, best android device i've ever owned
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ahh yes that's true, there may be stuff out there that won't work on 4.3. Only thing i can say about that is to contact the dev and wait for an update to the app. i know that's not what you wanted to hear, sorry. other than that though how do you like it? i got mine a few days ago and its been fantastic, best android device i've ever owned
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I am really content with my new android device nexus 7
But... i think stereo speaker isn't louder than I expected.
It seems to have similar volume level with another devices..
And headphone jack is too quiet for me.
It is pretty much quieter than my ex-device Samsung Galaxy S2.
Is that only problem of mine?
thats a good question, havent even tried the headphone jack yet, guess i will now
Midnight_Rider said:
thats a good question, havent even tried the headphone jack yet, guess i will now
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Good
How's yours? I think it is so quiet with high-impedance headphone.
I also think it maybe a problem of Android 4.3..
lys2002123 said:
I have known..
But things what I have used don't support 4.3 and i didn't know that.
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Hi:
What compatibility problems are you having with 4.3 vs 4.22--apps, hardware....
Tom
thenrik said:
Hi:
What compatibility problems are you having with 4.3 vs 4.22--apps, hardware....
Tom
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Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.
lys2002123 said:
Hello everyone.
I have bought N7 2nd generation few days ago and I feel very uncomfortable with android 4.3.
Is there any solution for downgrade to 4.2 or lower?
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Do you need a tampon?
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Brava27 said:
Do you need a tampon?
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Sorry
I think you would lose more than you would gain
Newer devices have advances that play well with the newer OS systems that are available so in my view retro versions may not work as well with some of the more advanced designs in the device thingy.
That said I feel the volume is plenty loud and in fact sounds really good. This is without a doubt the best 7" tablet available at this time. The Nexus 10 is the best 10" tablet available at this time, yes better than the apple products. The audio is better and the screens are better and you can set it up as you please a more mature attitude from the manufacturer if you will. Less hand holding, less paternalistic access to your device.
I bought mine at Office Max with the 20% discount, I felt that the price was almost unbelievable and was surprised when they had some left in stock.
I would like more memory 64GB would be nice but I rooted it and use stick mount to run videos and move files.
lys2002123 said:
Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.
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Hi:
You might want to try these JBL Bluetooth speakers--they are loud:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AYLDSU/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
As for Korean apps, you might try backing up the apk files and installing them. I know that Google says many of my Chinese apps are incompatible but they all work. Worth a try.
Let us know if you find a work around with bluetooth headphones, apps or anything else that works. It's going to be a rocky road with Bluetooth and 4.3. Many Bluetooth keyboards and some headphones don't work with 4.3. I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
I ordered some LG Bluetooth headphones in June. They worked with the Nexus 7 2012 but only played 1/4 volume on my Galaxy S3 so I returned them.
Keep us posted.
Tom
My sound on the headphones is good/decent. At about 1/2 volume is comfortable to me.
I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know how impedance effects the volume. It's not extremely loud at max volume, though. I'd probably still be able to hear my music while on the lawn mower or on my motorbike but not sure about a jet plane ^^
Speakers at max volume is fine for a quiet room, but outside it probably won't be very loud.
Hope this helped some.
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I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
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Just confirming that my bluetooth keyboard (made by Anker for ~$25 on Amazon) works.
I just paired it and this is the first thing I've typed. Seems to do well. I can even alt-tab to other stuff running. Sweet.
Also just connected my bluetooth apple mightymouse (or whatever they're called) and that's working as well (at the same time as the keyboard)
Maybe someone will see this and find it helpful =)
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ongre12 said:
Newer devices have advances that play well with the newer OS systems that are available so in my view retro versions may not work as well with some of the more advanced designs in the device thingy.
That said I feel the volume is plenty loud and in fact sounds really good. This is without a doubt the best 7" tablet available at this time. The Nexus 10 is the best 10" tablet available at this time, yes better than the apple products. The audio is better and the screens are better and you can set it up as you please a more mature attitude from the manufacturer if you will. Less hand holding, less paternalistic access to your device.
I bought mine at Office Max with the 20% discount, I felt that the price was almost unbelievable and was surprised when they had some left in stock.
I would like more memory 64GB would be nice but I rooted it and use stick mount to run videos and move files.
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Thank you for your valueable opinion.
To me, I'm very satisfied with another features and there was no intend to diminish Google or Nexus.
And I'm very proud of having brand-new nexus which have the sharpest screen among the world.
What I want to say is Nexus 7's audio quality is quite good but volume is low, lower than how I expected.
Within my experience, commonly, tablets usually make more powerful sound than phone but my Nexus 7 doesn't.
It seems to have simmilar power with phones. I just feel sad about that.
thenrik said:
Hi:
You might want to try these JBL Bluetooth speakers--they are loud:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009AYLDSU/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
As for Korean apps, you might try backing up the apk files and installing them. I know that Google says many of my Chinese apps are incompatible but they all work. Worth a try.
Let us know if you find a work around with bluetooth headphones, apps or anything else that works. It's going to be a rocky road with Bluetooth and 4.3. Many Bluetooth keyboards and some headphones don't work with 4.3. I'm reluctant to order anything Bluetooth without confirmation from others that it works with 4.3
I ordered some LG Bluetooth headphones in June. They worked with the Nexus 7 2012 but only played 1/4 volume on my Galaxy S3 so I returned them.
Keep us posted.
Tom
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Thank you for attention.
Bluetooth is great and easy protocol for sharing small files or connect simple devices, but it is not so good for audio.
Nexus 7 doesn't support apt-x, so bluetooth will impair Nexus 7's quite good quality sound.
At this time I have no bluetooth device so I cannnot find which one works, which one doesn't.
Sorry for bad answer.
nachtfrost said:
My sound on the headphones is good/decent. At about 1/2 volume is comfortable to me.
I'm not much of an audiophile so I don't know how impedance effects the volume. It's not extremely loud at max volume, though. I'd probably still be able to hear my music while on the lawn mower or on my motorbike but not sure about a jet plane ^^
Speakers at max volume is fine for a quiet room, but outside it probably won't be very loud.
Hope this helped some.
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Just confirming that my bluetooth keyboard (made by Anker for ~$25 on Amazon) works.
I just paired it and this is the first thing I've typed. Seems to do well. I can even alt-tab to other stuff running. Sweet.
Also just connected my bluetooth apple mightymouse (or whatever they're called) and that's working as well (at the same time as the keyboard)
Maybe someone will see this and find it helpful =)
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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Maybe mine seems simmilar with yours, so I can think my device isn't corruped or something.
In fact I doubted my Nexus is a normal or not.
Thanks, thanks again.
Speakers are really loud. Comparable to my sons Samsung Tab and much much louder then the first gen.
As for apps, just because some apps haven't been given the green flag for 4.3 doesn't mean I won't work. I've sideloaded tons of apps that work fine.
Nothing really different between 4.3 and 4.2 cosmetically. You shouldnt want to downgrade just because a few devs haven't updated yet.
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lys2002123 said:
Some Korean apps... and sound mods like viper4android.
And i think 4.3's audio output is quieter than 4.2.
My N7 is sooo quiet, both headphones and speakers.
Low volume really makes me disappointed.
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You would have to find a ROM that boost the volume. Just going to 4.2.2 wont increase your volume. I've been playing around with some stuff to boost volume and hopefully will have a mod out soon for it
But player is right...the diff between 4.2 and 4.3 are min. They did make a lot of battery saving tweaks, BT stack tweaks and other hardware tweaks but its more hardware related then os related
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Just checking in on how audio quality is while recording video? (thinking about getting this device).
Does it get that 'underwater' effect that sometimes plagues audio in video?
Is it able to record loud noise without distorting?
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gustav30 said:
Just checking in on how audio quality is while recording video? (thinking about getting this device).
Does it get that 'underwater' effect that sometimes plagues audio in video?
Is it able to record loud noise without distorting?
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Good question considering I like recording concerts I go to.. I haven't been to one yet, but would like to see someone's recording of one. I know the LG G2 was horrible at recording concerts as well as the whole line of Galaxy phones.. Sadly the best phone I've ever heard for recording loud volumes is the iphone
This is an advertised feature of the G3 and I was also wondering about it.
Coming from an S3 where you couldnt make out anything except garbled noise when recording in loud environments, I was also keen to see if this would really work.
So, just the other night I was in the pub, bunch of people, some DJ playing some cheesy tunes with decent amount of bass and lots of noise of people etc etc.. Now I don't want to upload the video because my workmates would kill me, you know the drunken antics people get into, but I will say the following about the video recording in this noisy environment:
1. You could hear everything!
2. It sounds a bit like music in a tin, but even above the music / screams and noise you could still clearly hear people speaking and what they were saying perfectly.
3. Played it back on the PC and it definitely still has bass / treble / mid range, maybe a bit too much mid range but I think that's the compromise between being able to still record voices while all this noise is happening.
4. All in all great, I am pleased.
5. Need to record at a festival though with super loud sound so that I can compare the sound to my friends Nokia & iPhone video recordings to rate it a bit better. (if you have links to videos recorded by such devices that I can compare to, I will have a look and see what I notice different / better /worse)
I am no audiophile / sound engineer, but these are my impressions of video recording in a loud environment.
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+1
I am going to a concert next weekend. I will test it out then
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I was just about to make a post on this!!!
TLDR- PERFECT PHONE!
Here is Seven Lions in gainesville, FL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8wCq6Me5ew
Taken on an LG G3. Took it on Thursday Night. If I took video on my Galaxy S3 in the same spot, you wouldnt be able to hear anything because the bass would take over...
Here is my Galaxy S3 taking video at EDC Orlando in November 2013... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSwQ7WIrJVM too much bass...
Dang it really does take good audio in videos. Great vids!
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I can confirm this phone has good audio recording at loud concerts which I go to quite often. It's not the best quality but at least it doesn't distort or get overpowered by bass (like my note 2). I am very satisfied. I can finally record artists and enjoy rewatching the clips on my phone.
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I have also discovered the same problem. I have searched a bit and its turn out to be "noise cancellation" feature build in kit kat, the problem is presented in nexus 5 too, and google working on it to fix this in 4.4.3, otherwise in very loud environments like concerts noise cancellation do amazing job, but it is very bad for quite environment.
This is what bugs me most about my G3. The noise cancellation that kicks in after 3 or 4 seconds is just way too aggressive for the sake of reducing distortion in harsh environments. It practically ruins the sound quality unless you have someone speaking nearby. Every video I have taken sounds muffled and garbled.
This is definitely one area in which I prefer my old One M7 with the "HDR" dual membrane microphones which would simultaneously be clear and avoid distortion. LG should have taken this route if they were serious about avoiding distortion.
Today's LG G3 Update fix that bug, good job Google and LG :good:
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Oh there was music with that? Dang was too busy watching the video
nauvho said:
Today's LG G3 Update fix that bug, good job Google and LG :good:
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I found this thread while searching for a solution to very audio problem mentioned here.
I also have an LG G3 and have recently returned from a week holiday only to find that the 140 clips i took all have this audio problem.
Nauvho, you mentioned that LG/Google has fixed this in an update. I received the V10g update recently. However, it still has this problem.
Is this the same update that fixed it for you?
Cheers!
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I found this thread while searching for a solution to very audio problem mentioned here.
I also have an LG G3 and have recently returned from a week holiday only to find that the 140 clips i took all have this audio problem.
Nauvho, you mentioned that LG/Google has fixed this in an update. I received the V10g update recently. However, it still has this problem.
Is this the same update that fixed it for you?
Cheers!
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Hi there, yes this update fix the problem for me, however i can't confirm that this update is targeted for this bug at all, but it is confirmed that it is android bug.
Thanks for replying!
How strange that it fixed it for you and not me.
Did you get the V10g or the V10e update?
RAB78 said:
Thanks for replying!
How strange that it fixed it for you and not me.
Did you get the V10g or the V10e update?
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Its 10g, 10g-EUR-XX to be specific.
nauvho said:
Today's LG G3 Update fix that bug, good job Google and LG :good:
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Which update? V10H or V10J or which one?
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Which update? V10H or V10J or which one?
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I have said this already 10g fix it for me.
That's the same one that i got.
I wonder why it didn't fix it for me. Very annoying.
You say it's an Android thing but why is it not present on other Android 4.4.2 devices?
nauvho said:
I have also discovered the same problem. I have searched a bit and its turn out to be "noise cancellation" feature build in kit kat, the problem is presented in nexus 5 too, and google working on it to fix this in 4.4.3, otherwise in very loud environments like concerts noise cancellation do amazing job, but it is very bad for quite environment.
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Read my previous post
Far from perfect even with 5.01 v2 - Are we just paying to Alpha test the Moto 360 for Motorola?
It's part and parcel of being an early adopter of Android Wear.
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It's part and parcel of being an early adopter of Android Wear.
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Or using the 1st gen of any tech for the matter.
Moto hardware Google software
i am pleased as punch with my purchase of this watch.
Me too. Battery life has improved since first launch and is not a problem anymore. I just wish the Moto 360 has an infrared blaster to control the TV and a speaker in case I want to take a call.
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Me too. Battery life has improved since first launch and is not a problem anymore. I just wish the Moto 360 has an infrared blaster to control the TV and a speaker in case I want to take a call.
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use wear speaker to take a call in speaker mode
sansoon said:
use wear speaker to take a call in speaker mode
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Does it use the speaker on the 360 or on the phone?
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on the phone, so for example when you're in the car, just answer it automatically in speaker mode.
since the moto 360 does not have any speaker.. so yeah
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It's part and parcel of being an early adopter of Android Wear.
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Nope. That was a fine excuse with the first iteration of Android Wear, but 5.0.1 was supposed to fix a lot of things, and instead broke some core functionality. This isn't about bing an early adopter; it's about inexcusably poor Q/A and customer support.
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Nope. That was a fine excuse with the first iteration of Android Wear, but 5.0.1 was supposed to fix a lot of things, and instead broke some core functionality. This isn't about bing an early adopter; it's about inexcusably poor Q/A and customer support.
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It will take more than 5.0.1 to fix all issues and stabilize Android Wear. Heck, even Android KK 4.4.4 rollouts have bugs which require further updates to fix.
Anyone else experiencing issues with Bluetooth or Android Wear? My 360 wont get notifications or stay synced very long. It drops connection a lot.
My lg g watch is working fine so far. It's on 5.1.1 not sure if that matters.
I have a 360, and it's only my first full day, but I've had no issues
No issues on my Moto 360.
No issues on my 360 or G Watch.
No problems with my 360. Been up a week, no connection losses that aren't related to a phone reboot, or similar.
Reset the watch and repair the Bluetooth connection?
I have a LG G Watch R and it took me 5-6 factory resets on the watch before I was able to get it to connect with the G4. Surprisingly I had no issues pairing it with the S4 I had before. I also had problems pairing the G4 with my car and once paired it does not send metadata to the car. I've come to conclusion that LG's implementation of Bluetooth leaves a lot to be desired.
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I have a LG G Watch R and it took me 5-6 factory resets on the watch before I was able to get it to connect with the G4. Surprisingly I had no issues pairing it with the S4 I had before. I also had problems pairing the G4 with my car and once paired it does not send metadata to the car. I've come to conclusion that LG's implementation of Bluetooth leaves a lot to be desired.
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Yeah, there is something funky in LG's bt - software. I had to do factory reset to my LG G watch R to get it to connect to Android Wear app (it was connected to the phone in bt-menu). And the bt-audio is horrible compared to my other phones.
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G4 and Lg Watch R works perfect!
Pyrres said:
Yeah, there is something funky in LG's bt - software. I had to do factory reset to my LG G watch R to get it to connect to Android Wear app (it was connected to the phone in bt-menu). And the bt-audio is horrible compared to my other phones.
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As far as I know, Android Wear doesn't connect to multiple devices. Although, there were some updates recently that I have not received on my MOTO 360, so YMMV.
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As far as I know, Android Wear doesn't connect to multiple devices. Although, there were some updates recently that I have not received on my MOTO 360, so YMMV.
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I assumed that, that is why I disconnected it from my S4 and removed it from the watch. I still had to factory reset 5-6 times to get it to work correctly. Needless to say it's been working great ever since.
Hi guys ,
I am going to buy my first android wear and I cant decide between these two :
Gear Live
Zenwatch
Which one is better ?? and Why >??
both have every thing but
the gear live : heart rate monitor , looks more spotry | its cradle sucks , samsung is slow in updates
Zen watch : Looks more premium , its cradle is fine ( not good as the lg g though ) | ( Some people say that asus is slowly in updates as samsung but I have never used asus phone before so I dont know )
thx in advance
Mem_0 said:
Hi guys ,
I am going to buy my first android wear and I cant decide between these two :
Gear Live
Zenwatch
Which one is better ?? and Why >??
both have every thing but
the gear live : heart rate monitor , looks more spotry | its cradle sucks , samsung is slow in updates
Zen watch : Looks more premium , its cradle is fine ( not good as the lg g though ) | ( Some people say that asus is slowly in updates as samsung but I have never used asus phone before so I dont know )
thx in advance
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The price also plays a big factor. Zenwatch is great for the price. Trust me you wont be using the heart rate monitor at all during your daily use.
And the biggest plus point is Zenwatch has speakers so with next update it might start working. And there you go.
Cheapest yet decent smart watch with speakers
Hope this helped. I own a LG G R.
Actually, the 1st gen Zenwatch doesn't have a built in speaker, only a microphone (the Zenwatch 2, however, definitely has one).
Asus might be a bit slow on updates, but they have said that they are working on the Android Wear 1.4 update, due by the end of March. (I can't speak for Samsung smartwatches, as I've never owned one.)
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Actually, the 1st gen Zenwatch doesn't have a built in speaker, only a microphone (the Zenwatch 2, however, definitely has one).
Asus might be a bit slow on updates, but they have said that they are working on the Android Wear 1.4 update, due by the end of March. (I can't speak for Samsung smartwatches, as I've never owned one.)
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Got the update today. Not sure all the details though.