stupid place for the USB/Power port - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble

Anyone else wondering exactly why Samsung decided to put the USB/Power port on the bottom of the device?

afdish said:
Anyone else wondering exactly why Samsung decided to put the USB/Power port on the bottom of the device?
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No. It's fine right there.

rephrase: stupid --> inconvenient
CafeKampuchia said:
No. It's fine right there.
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I keep my tablet in it's case in easel mode 90% of the time, and watch hours and hours of youtube, so I need to be able to charge the device while I'm using it. So I end up with the tablet upside down to allow that, which then puts the volume and power buttons on the bottom. Very inconvenient. Is there a valid purpose for it being there that I am just not seeing? My hubby's tablet has it on the side, which just seems to make more sense. I'm curious...do you use your tablet differently, making it not an issue for you?

I'm just not annoyed by having the power button and volume rocker on the bottom when I have to plug it in. Every Android device I've owned has had the USB port on the bottom.

CafeKampuchia said:
I'm just not annoyed by having the power button and volume rocker on the bottom when I have to plug it in. Every Android device I've owned has had the USB port on the bottom.
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Due to YouTube videos having such a huge range of volume difference from one video to the next, I am constantly adjusting the volume. I can see if I mainly listened to music or audiobooks, then it wouldn't be such an issue. I've even looked for a nice low profile 90 degree usb cable connection that would allow me to have the power plugged in with the tablet right side up. No luck so far. I've even thought about building a stand/platform combo with a recess in the right place to give the usb cable a space to reside.

I agree, and had the same problem with the Galaxy Tab 2. However, that one used a proprietary cable... This might not be a perfect solution either, but at least for this tablet you can buy a different usb cable with a right angle connection that would be less obtrusive in the case...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s?k=90+degree+usb+micro
Edit: I didn't read all the way and I see you've already tried that!
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This is what I am using with Note Classic 10.1 and Tab Pro.
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...1446966256&sr=8-2&keywords=griffin+ipad+stand

afdish said:
I keep my tablet in it's case in easel mode 90% of the time, and watch hours and hours of youtube, so I need to be able to charge the device while I'm using it. So I end up with the tablet upside down to allow that, which then puts the volume and power buttons on the bottom. Very inconvenient. Is there a valid purpose for it being there that I am just not seeing? My hubby's tablet has it on the side, which just seems to make more sense. I'm curious...do you use your tablet differently, making it not an issue for you?
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It is where it is to plug into a docking stand like this one.

My easel works fine with the usb at the bottom.
You might check out the retractable usb at "http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=10957" to do what you prefer.

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Mozart my first 48hours.

I have a touch HD for the past 2 years and still have at present.
Anyway Orange offered Mozart as a new 18M contract as it was up for renewal.
First impressions are:-
BAD.
1) No standard Mini USB connection.(I though all phones were standardizing)
2) Why have said connection in side off phone. (This means no neat cradle on desktop)
3) No Mapping software. Also my Memory Map will not work.
4) No easy way to SD card.
5) Contacts transferred but lost pictures?
GOOD
1) Screen and colours are excellent. Better than Touch HD.
2) Software is brilliant so fast and slick. I really like it. (Wish my PC had this front end).
3) Zune works OK.
Nice to have:-
1) Memory Map.
2) Windows 6.5 apps could be recompiled to run on Windows 7 phones.
3) Clock was bigger on front screen say a block with a clock.
4) Enlarge text option.
Will I keep it?
Still thinking of trading both in for a HD2. But if software I need was coming I would stick with it.
PS Anyone know how to get video recorder just keep getting camera.
BazzerBazzer said:
1) No standard Mini USB connection.(I though all phones were standardizing)
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Standard is Micro-USB which your phone clearly has.
2) Why have said connection in side off phone. (This means no neat cradle on desktop)
3) No Mapping software. Also my Memory Map will not work.
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eh?!
4) No easy way to SD card.
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There is no exchangeable SD card, so what did you expect?
5) Contacts transferred but lost pictures?
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Maybe you should have asked how to transfer contacts correctly.
PS Anyone know how to get video recorder just keep getting camera.
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In the camera-application press on the on-screen-button on the right to switch to video.
BazzerBazzer said:
I1) No standard Mini USB connection.(I though all phones were standardizing)
2) Why have said connection in side off phone. (This means no neat cradle on desktop)
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i assume he means the USB connection is either on the top or bottom of the phone as opposed to the side. therefore, a phone cradle for the phone is unlikely of being produced since it can't be slid into the cradle sideways............is my guess.
Don't see how this is a phone negative...someone will make a cradle for it eventually
Krissrock said:
i assume he means the USB connection is either on the top or bottom of the phone as opposed to the side. therefore, a phone cradle for the phone is unlikely of being produced since it can't be slid into the cradle sideways............is my guess.
Don't see how this is a phone negative...someone will make a cradle for it eventually
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Ah...okay...the Xperia X1 also had the USB port on the right but there have been cradles eventually. There is an extra cable to plug into the USB port after sliding the phone into the cradle. In my opinion this is a benefit because I do not want to charge the phone everytime I place it into the cradle and with this extra cable I can decide if the phone should be charged or not.
Krissrock said:
i assume he means the USB connection is either on the top or bottom of the phone as opposed to the side. therefore, a phone cradle for the phone is unlikely of being produced since it can't be slid into the cradle sideways............is my guess.
Don't see how this is a phone negative...someone will make a cradle for it eventually
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If it's anything like the HD7 he means that it isn't in the centre of the phone which means generic cradles can't be used.
skycamefalling said:
Standard is Micro-USB which your phone clearly has.
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Yes; annoyingly, even though Mini-USB emerged as a standard over the last few years, and even though the reasoning behind the formal standardisation was to reduce the number of chargers that had to be produced and which ended up in landfill, the companies involved decided to use variant of the standard Micro-USB instead; dismissing the opportunity to gain a head start in their quest by utilising the enormous number of phone already out in the world towards their goals.
And that was all one sentence.
However, the decision was not voluntary. It was requested by.. I forget who. Some governments I think. So, why would they want to use an existing standard when they can sell more accessories by using a different one? Apple are in on the deal too, so the next iPhone should have a Micro-USB connector.
In their defence, Micro-USB is probably a better choice than Mini-USB as devices are sure to get thinner and the Micro-USB socket has a narrower profile.

MHL / HDMI Mini review.

So, got mine today from mobile fun, link Below.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/bizlink-mhl-to-hdmi-tv-out-adapter-black-p29839.htm
Mobile Fun's mini Video Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnU5F_0TyZI&feature=player_embedded
First of all it works, the most important thing, it works well in fact and my 1080p videos look fantastic, those I have downloaded and those I have recorded myself with this phone, they really do look great and a HD TV. So for the measly price of 15-20 sheets its worth it regardless of the issues below.
The only problem:
For those that didn't know, i.e, didn't do their homework, you cannot just plug this in and it will work, it needs power. Now I knew about this and didn't really see it is an issue as I hadn't really imagined how this would look, work and feel. Well I can say that for me (only my opinion) its a bit of a mess, its far from elegant. Basically you have to plug in a usb cable into the adapter first, this powers it, then plug the adapter into the Phone and then the hdmi into the adapter and TV. This is all easily done but like I say it is far from a more elegant one cable solution that doesn't need power and doesn't need an adapter. For me this was my first real disappointment with this phone, a floating turd in an otherwise lake of glittering gold.
Now it could be argued that I knew about this and that I shouldn't be disappointed but I am, the whole thing in your hand just feels ungainly, something you are not going to know until you put it all together. I really don't like the idea that you have to have a second cable to power it either, again I know this so I don't need this pointing out but people should be aware of this drawback, however minor.
Summary (for those who can be arsed to read)
1. It works really well, HD stuff looks fantastic.
2. Its not an elegant solution as you need a usb cable to power the adapter itself.
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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diehard2222 said:
What about the official Samsung one? That one is probably much better.
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marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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stoolzo said:
marginally better in that the USB input is place in line with the cable and so when inserted it doesnt jut out at a right angle.
This Phone is never going to need MHL, its too early for the tech I think, its a fail for me, should have taken the same route as the LG2x, although even with this issue the sg2 is still the best phone on the market.
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Maybe thats true for you, I'm using and loving MHL on mine.
ripnard said:
Hi. I have expansys version for £13. Also works great. But with yours whilst in use, does the phone keep charge or charge up whilst in use. With mine I find so far that even though the phone is charging whilst connected to the tv, it looses charge
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Dont worry - sorted it. Stoppped overclocking to 1.5ghz and using performance govenor (DOH!) and I can now stream 1080p from youutube over wifi (only works through full fat desktop internet browser mode btw, not via the youtbe app or youtube in mobile broweser page mode) with mobile data off and still charges the phone at the same time!
Wow 1080 video over internet wifi straight to tv. This phone rocks!
my only gripe with this adapter is that it requires power, if this port was just put in place to allow charging when playing this would have been fine, its just the fact you cannot use he adapter at all without an extra the power source.
I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
The problem here is that there is no MHL compliant TV yet afaik.
Cause the MHL port in a TV would provide power to the phone without needing another cable.
You'd want it plugged in anyway. I can see the battery lasting an hour playing 1080P video outputting internally and externally at the same time.
Do you still have to have an external power source on the official samsung MHL adapter?
If so, I really doubt I'm buying one
In other words, I need to have a PC or power contact for it to work?
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Hey,
is the output really 1080p (if you have a movie which is 1080p), or is it Android´s/ the phone´s native resolution?
just wondering
bye
Its the phones resolution unless you're in the video player, in which case it outputs it in HD if the source file is HD (does 1080i for compressed video, I've heard it will do 1080p with un-compressed video, but not tried yet to confirm).
PointZeroOne said:
I wonder what it actually is needing the power for.
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Probably for the MHL-to-HDMI bridge chip and any support electronics. Note that once MHL-capable TVs enter the market, it may be possible to use a straight-through passive cable, especially if the MHL-capable TV provides charging input to the phone as promised.
can someone tell me what is the cost for a good cable in us dollars?
Wouldnt it make sense for there to be an option to turn the phone screen off when outputting to the TV?
i orderd mine from clove, still waiting for my order..
I ordered this cable just now at mobilefun, but I made an error in my phone number. Wanted to press the escape button so the page wouldn't continue but it was too late. Lol .. anyway I'm sure it'll be fine. Although, I didn't receive a confirmation email yet
"Expected back in stock: 4-8 days" Grrrr
Official Samsung cable is on Amazon UK at the time I'm posting this for £17.99
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004ULZ0IW
Not sure I really need one but a heads-up for those who want it.
Edit: "Usually dispatched within 1 to 4 months"! - oh well maybe I'll order it and see if I need it when it gets here...
i am using the official samsung hdtv adapter/hdmi adapter. just got it today.
the quality of the output video is fantastic...
only gripe is similar to what was mentioned. have to get it powered before it can be used..
sighs..

My experience with the Samsung Keyboard Dock

For those who are planning to get one of these docks read this first before making your decision.
I got one of these keyboard docks a few weeks ago. It looks nice, is sturdy and somewhat portable and light. At first it was working normally until the day the tab got stuck in the clock mode and the keyboard didn't work anymore. I called Samsung and I followed all the instructions like factory resetting the tab. This actually work for a short time but everything happened again and again and I was tire of resetting the tab and installing everything again.
So, this is what a learned of using my keyboard dock:
If I don't use the dock for almost two days it will stuck the tab in the clock mode.
If I charge the tab using the dock when it is in the clock mode, it will freeze the tab when is fully charged. After a power reset (holding the power button until restart) the dock works normally as expected for a day.
If I leave the tab in the dock in sleep mode without charging and without using it the battery will discharge almost completely in 12 hours.
Apart of this issues, it works nice. Anyways I'm planning to get a Bluetooth keyboard in the near future so, this dock will be a nice charge station on my night table.
BTW, this is my third dock after two returns and all behave the same.
The dock is just useless. Might as well get an apple keyboard or something. The software keyboard should not popup at all if the dock is enable or hell any keyboard for that matter.
That was a deal break for me. It is easy to get around, but utterly infuriating.
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The dock is just useless. Might as well get an apple keyboard or something. The software keyboard should not popup at all if the dock is enable or hell any keyboard for that matter.
That was a deal break for me. It is easy to get around, but utterly infuriating.
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Weird. My software keyboard doesn't pop up unless I hit one of the keys that trigger it. Only annoying thing is the autoswitch to the Samsung soft keyboard that still requires you to hit OK. Wish it just switched while plugged in, then went back to whatever IME you were using before.
I don't know why they didn't include a card reader on the keypad dock silly. ...
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mikeku said:
I don't know why they didn't include a card reader on the keypad dock silly. ...
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Because it's just a new plastic seating guide on the keyboard they developed for the 7" Tab.
Croak said:
Because it's just a new plastic seating guide on the keyboard they developed for the 7" Tab.
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You are right. i compared both in the store and the only difference that i was able to see was the black plastic that hold the tablet in place.

The Limb.al cable (Sweet USB cable with multiple uses)

Just saw this one Kickstarter. Think its going to be a hit. Im def signing up for this one. Will make for a nice car charger for me.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1782458858/the-limbal?ref=live
I like it. I agree it'll be great for the car.
Interesting, but micro usb ports are flimsy as it is.
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No way that thing will hold a Galaxy Nexus securely. The USB port on the phone is already a very weak connection. Not to mention, that thing will probably destroy your port even more than it might already be.
This would actually be great. Might have to put some money towards it.
i'm much more interested in the software that lets you use your phone as a display.
v3rn said:
No way that thing will hold a Galaxy Nexus securely. The USB port on the phone is already a very weak connection. Not to mention, that thing will probably destroy your port even more than it might already be.
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The video shows it holding a GNEX, at like 1 minute.
Thanks we got pogo pins , but accessories cost to much, I have the desktop audio dock, and it's ****ing very high quality, still cheap price for working usb port
tspderek said:
i'm much more interested in the software that lets you use your phone as a display.
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In their picture they're using Air display, which is iOS and OS X only :-(. I too would kill for something like that for android.
kvizz said:
The video shows it holding a GNEX, at like 1 minute.
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He didn't say it wasn't possible, just that it's going to wreck the micro-usb port, which it most likely will.
Using the micro-usb to hold up the phone on its own weight? You’re asking to break the port and possibly ruin the phone.
no thanks
I dont think there should be any issues with this as long as you are careful when first putting it in the micro slot. Just like with a dock or regular charging cable, if you jam it in there, its going to cause havoc. And if it does break it, my phone is under a yr warranty so I wont mind. I think this is going to be a great product. I will write a review once they are shipped in Sept.
I thought about getting one for the car, but then I thought what would happen at a hard braking situation... I'll pass.
BlackKatos said:
I thought about getting one for the car, but then I thought what would happen at a hard braking situation... I'll pass.
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I just wont use it when I am racing, lol.

Xperia Ion Smart Dock. $10

After playing with the HD out on my Ion I decided to by one of the docks. To my suprise I found it on ATT for $10 :cyclops: So I thought I would share with the others. One thing to note is don't sign in to your account as it will show as not available. If you just order it it goes through and free shipping :good:
http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/docks/sku6120262.html
only for US
I just got done ordering it myself from at&t.
I had no issues with being logged in to my at&t account
I was coming to post the info also, but was ninja'd by @zachspeed.
Moderating from my Xperia ION on 4.1.2 & RooTED by DooMLoRD.
Hai ninjerd you lol. For me as soon as I signed in it would not let me order for some reason. Also seems that this device is still being sold in some states and countries. I also noticed that Sony has more LT28a devices. Not sure why they are not at and just a.
Got mine a while back for $25, came with the HDMI cable. Best $25 bucks i've spent on an accesory for my phone.
Yea I knew Spectra was happy with his and thanks for your input as well. There is not allot of actual reviews of it online so I borrowed my friends hdmi adapter to play around with it. The tv launcher is quite neat and you can still use the other launchers too. It is almost like a second computer. Cant wait for my dock to show up.
Does the AT&T version come with an hdmi cable? One of the reviews I've read said it didn't. Is it a full size hdmi on the back of the unit or mini?
I will let you know when it shows up. It looks like it has a mini on the back of it from pics. I hope it does come with a cable or some kind of adapter made for it. Still have one if it does not though so guess I am okay.
Just got mine in the mail from at&t.
It is new in box.
Box contains ONLY the dock and paper work.
NO CORDS OR ANYTHING ELSE
Not real happy that just putting the phone in the dock does NOT trigger the landscape home screen.
When docked the lock screen and home launcher screen are still vertical, they have no rotation.
Most apps will rotate automatically.
Let me say that I only had a charger plugged in, no hdmi cable to test.
Must need the hdmi connection to trigger full rotation like shown in Sony web page.
I do like the cursor when a usb mouse is used.
As I got it to mainly hold my ION up so I can see the clock at night, when I use it as an alarm. Also like how when in clock mode a long press of screen turns the clock blue then a short press dims it.
Moderating from my Xperia ION on 4.1.2 & RooTED by DooMLoRD.
Yea I got mine today and same deal with no cords. I also find it quite difficult to get my phone in the dock like the plugs are a bit off or something. The rotation will trigger with the hdmi plugged in and you can set Smart Connect to trigger TV launcher when you dock it. I will say it does work quite well and had no issue with my mouse and keyboard. Some apps are a bit strange like youtube the seek bar will not come back on the tv once it has hidden itself so you have to look at the device. All in all I am very happy with it.
The one complaint I have is the lack of cords. I went looking for a micro hdmi cable today but I was not willing to pay 30 to 50 dollars for a cable. That is just crazy for four to six foot cable. The bad part about it is every big brand store will offer you a ton of options online for crazy cheap but not in store. The only place I did not check was Staples so guess I will go there tomorrow. I tell you it is almost like the brick stores have become the dumping ground for stuff that does not sell.
Oh forgot to add that I did notice that if you turn the screen off before you take it out the sound is not forced through the ear piece. : )
I went ahead and got one of these even though I don't see a use for it because, hey, ten bucks
It's picky about power sources. I had been using the charging brick from a wireless mouse, which charges the Ion fast enough, but run through the dock the phone didn't even register as plugged in and couldn't power a USB thumb drive. Likewise when plugged into my PC through the dock--no response on either end. My tablet charger worked, but I use that for my tablet, so I ended up digging out the original brick for the Ion.
As expected, the dock is too tight a fit for a case, which is probably enough by itself to disqualify this thing from daily use for me. It's no easier to dock the phone vs. plugging it straight into a cord, either--I would say it's about equally awkward dealing w/ the cover flap and tight ports either way. If you don't use a case and/or really want a bedside clock, it might be worthwhile, or if you want to use your phone as a word processor, gaming console, or main computer. For me, it might come in handy down the line but is probably going in a drawer for now.
Taosaur said:
I went ahead and got one of these even though I don't see a use for it because, hey, ten bucks
If you don't use a case and/or really want a bedside clock, it might be worthwhile
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I use mine as an alarm clock/charger.
It sits next to the bed and I was knocking it of my table when the alarm goes off. So the dock is more stable and holds the phone in an easy to read angle.
I still HATE that the lock & home screens won't Auto rotate when docked. I have found an app that forces landscape mode but not automatically. Why Sony didn't enable it with a setting is crazy
I also use a case daily. Its a jelly type case so goes off & on quickly.
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It's growing on me. I left the phone in there while I was working (or, you know, stuff) at my desk today, and it was nice to have my notifications right in front of me. I think I also found a less fussy method of getting it on the dock--going straight in with the screen facing down at an angle and kind of flipping it up onto the plugs. It's hard to explain, but at least just now it slid right on there, which is easier than fiddling with a cord.
In the spirit of overkill, I even pulled an ancient KVM switch out of my "electronic junk" box, to share my mouse and keyboard between the dock and my PC. It doesn't seem to be working for my Razer mouse, but the keyboard is a go, and I might be able to troubleshoot the mouse.
Yea the auto rotate issues have annoyed me from day one with this thing. Have not had to deal with it though with using other launchers like Honami and such. The lockscreen still bugs me though.

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