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Question for you guys:
Since the Galaxy Nexus (and other LTE devices) use SIM cards with Verizon, is it no longer the case that they can have bad esn/meid/imei numbers?
I know activation happens automatically when you pop the sim in, I have a Thunderbolt now that I purchased used and just used my Jetpack SIM to activate it. I switch it back and forth all the time, after you swap the SIM your device changes in the MyVerizon site, along with available plans and options. I used my Thunderbolt for a long time just on a hotspot plan that way, very convenient.
I'm curious because I see "bad esn" Galaxy Nexus phones on eBay, so I just don't get why they would be bad if all the activation info is related to the SIM card and not the device itself.
Hopefully someone can educate me on this.
I know this has been asked before, but there are no good answers from my searches. Most threads end up simply saying "ask Verizon".
I know what Verizon thinks: "buy from us so we get your money"
The phones still use CDMA so they can still have bad ESNs.
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Yeah, but isn't all the activation info tied to the SIM card, not the device? When Verizon activates a SIM, they don't need a device to activate it.
Does the activation process read the esn from the device and send it when trying to activate with a SIM card? (this must be how MyVerizon knows what device you're using? Maybe?) If this is the case, there must be some software somewhere doing the work?
What's the point of a SIM if it's getting a unique device id from the device? Is this just because LTE and CDMA are still kind of separate?
going off my personal experience you should be fine if you buy one. Heres my readons. I purchased a used gnex off this chick but didn't realize it used a micro sim instead of regular. I thought eh I'll be fine I doubt this chick is trying to rip me off. I go to the store and tell them I need a micro sim to activate my phone. They do their thing then ask where I got the phone from. I said this damn thing is reported stolen isn't it? Yup. Fml! $400 gone. Well I end up meeting up with another guy and buy a brand new one from him. We call Verizon to get it all set up before I pay the dude but he says DO NOT give them the last digit of the imei off the phone. I'm thinking ohhh k. And I give it to them anyways. (I was always told I was a good listener in school) they say this phone is stolen or hasn't been activated on an account so if that's the case they need to activate it. So I call back this time and leave the last digit of the imei out. And like magic it was activated and Mr Verizon rep was happy to help. So then I ask this guy if he thinks it'll work on my other gnex, he says give it a try or pop the sim in first and see if it works. And to my surprise just putting the sim in actually worked! Now instead of me being pissed and having 1 bad nexus my gf and I are enjoying our ice cream sandwiches. Hope this helps you.
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Dude I work at Verizon and your have confirmed a theory I had thanks to you I'll be able to make some deals on the side and make some Extra $$
If at any given point you need help with your Verizon Account/Devices PM and I'll hook you up.
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going off my personal experience you should be fine if you buy one. Heres my readons. I purchased a used gnex off this chick but didn't realize it used a micro sim instead of regular. I thought eh I'll be fine I doubt this chick is trying to rip me off. I go to the store and tell them I need a micro sim to activate my phone. They do their thing then ask where I got the phone from. I said this damn thing is reported stolen isn't it? Yup. Fml! $400 gone. Well I end up meeting up with another guy and buy a brand new one from him. We call Verizon to get it all set up before I pay the dude but he says DO NOT give them the last digit of the imei off the phone. I'm thinking ohhh k. And I give it to them anyways. (I was always told I was a good listener in school) they say this phone is stolen or hasn't been activated on an account so if that's the case they need to activate it. So I call back this time and leave the last digit of the imei out. And like magic it was activated and Mr Verizon rep was happy to help. So then I ask this guy if he thinks it'll work on my other gnex, he says give it a try or pop the sim in first and see if it works. And to my surprise just putting the sim in actually worked! Now instead of me being pissed and having 1 bad nexus my gf and I are enjoying our ice cream sandwiches. Hope this helps you.
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dnar56 said:
going off my personal experience you should be fine if you buy one. Heres my readons. I purchased a used gnex off this chick but didn't realize it used a micro sim instead of regular. I thought eh I'll be fine I doubt this chick is trying to rip me off. I go to the store and tell them I need a micro sim to activate my phone. They do their thing then ask where I got the phone from. I said this damn thing is reported stolen isn't it? Yup. Fml! $400 gone. Well I end up meeting up with another guy and buy a brand new one from him. We call Verizon to get it all set up before I pay the dude but he says DO NOT give them the last digit of the imei off the phone. I'm thinking ohhh k. And I give it to them anyways. (I was always told I was a good listener in school) they say this phone is stolen or hasn't been activated on an account so if that's the case they need to activate it. So I call back this time and leave the last digit of the imei out. And like magic it was activated and Mr Verizon rep was happy to help. So then I ask this guy if he thinks it'll work on my other gnex, he says give it a try or pop the sim in first and see if it works. And to my surprise just putting the sim in actually worked! Now instead of me being pissed and having 1 bad nexus my gf and I are enjoying our ice cream sandwiches. Hope this helps you.
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So by giving the Verizon Representative my IMEI # minus the last number....which seems to be what the MEID number is basically when looking in the settings of the phone; but anyways by doing that will allow it to activate? So in that process do I tell the person buying my phone to purchase a MicroSIM from VZW then activate over the phone?
Yes. Or they can do it in store but don't give it to the rep since they "know everything" and will want to put it in.
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Heh, thanks for the input. I know I'm late responding...
I did buy a Nexus, all I did was take my regular sized SIM and cut it down with one of those cutters. Everything activated normally.
I had a feeling it would, just wanted to throw it out there and see if I was absolutely wrong or something. I had previously swapped my SIM between my phone and mifi without issues, so I figured I wouldn't have any issues even if there was a problem.
Thanks.
Before I begin I would like to share that I just came from the AT&T forums where I was going to post this question, however while uploading it it told me to correct the highlighted problems and would not let me post, even though there were no problems and nothing highlighted... LOL.
Anyways.
I currently own an iPhone 5 with 3 Gb data, unlimited texting, and I believe 450 minutes or something like that. I have not been satisfied with this phone. It has had numerous problems, and now the infamous "Cannot connect to itunes store" problem has struck me, leaving me unable to retrieve apps and music I've payed for. I want to eventually move to whatever nexus phone (If announced) they release at Google I/O this may, but until then, would like to change to my Samsung Galaxy Nexus. The Nexus was bought directly from Google Play, and is factory unlocked to work on most GSM carriers, such as AT&T. I am wondering what I have to do to move over to the Nexus and forget the iPhone 5 exists? I've owned 4 Android devices before, all rooted and ROMed, and while I wish the stock OS felt more... stable... I do like it more then iOS (especially Paranoid Android). This is my first time, however, owning an Apple product on a contract (I've owned iPads and iTouches but obviously off contract) and I'm not sure how to proceed.
Currently I have the idea to order a sim adapter (ordered yesterday, actually, because I'd like to have one regardless) and pop the sim from my iPhone into my Nexus. I've read I'll need to switch APN settings to get data working correctly and at the appropriate speeds on the Nexus. Is that true? Will that work? I've also read I'll need to take it to the store or call AT&T to have them set it up or change the data plan. Is that what I'll have to do instead? I'm not sure which it is, whether I'll just have to change APN settings or if I'll have to go to the store for this to work, since there seems to be different stories for different phones on the forums. The one thing I really want cleared up is that if I have to have AT&T change my LTE plan to a different data plan that works with android phones, will that cost me anything? I don't want to pay a penny, I just want my 3 Gb's, messages and minutes on a different phone. Also I should mention my iPhone 5 picks up HSPA+ which is what the Galaxy Nexus uses, so I really don't see why AT&T would need to change anything or charge anything.
I wont be removing the iPhone from my plan, I just wont be using it. I am more or less going to replace my iPhone 5 with a Nexus for all my phone uses and needs. Is this going to cost me anything if I need AT&T to change the plans around for me? Do I even need to do that? If someone could please help me that would be much appreciated. Also if there is no new phone in May then I'll be switching to a GSM unlocked Nexus 4. Any thoughts or tips for if that will work too are also appreciated. Thanks! And I do apologize if this is in the wrong section. I've used this website for a lot of browsing over the years, but this is my first account and post.
(And for a company that prides themselves on making masterpieces that come "just working," my iPhone sure the hell doesn't "just work.")
Why would u switch over to iPhone anyway? Tisk tisk tisk
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Why would u switch over to iPhone anyway? Tisk tisk tisk
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You clearly haven't read the title... Or even the post have you?
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sensation lover said:
You clearly haven't read the title... Or even the post have you?
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Its stats that he had androids before and got the iPhone now wants to switch to gnex
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Alton (Halo 2) said:
Its stats that he had androids before and got the iPhone now wants to switch to gnex
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He is moving back to his Galaxy Nexus, which he had before. If you aren't going to read a post and not be helpful, then don't reply.
I'm not American, so I don't know, but it should work.
I think youll have to contact att to have your 4g data provisioned from lte to hspa+ [the iphone 5 does have lte, correct?]. I had an old 3g sim card and when i got my nexus, i just stopped at the att store, explained that i needed a newer sim, and the rep gave me a new 4g sim, free of charge and the receipt said "4g for smartphone". No charge at all. And yes, to take full advantage, you'll have to change the apn from wap.cingular to a "phone" apn, which you can find by googling. Keep in mind you may not get as strong a signal with the nexus as with the iphone, which you probably already know. Small beans, if you ask me. Personally, I'd try to stay away from the sim adapters, and i've heard of some issues where you wouldnt want to mess up the sim slot. The only to use the adapter would be if your unsure you're going to stick with the nexus, and may want to jump back to the iphone, in which case you'd be going back to the att store again.
So when we last tuned in...
Verizon was giving folks "difficulty" in getting their Nexus 7 (2013) LTE activated.
It would say it's not listed in the system or some such thing.
Clever folks installed sims from other phones and that worked okay.
But, has anyone gotten a straight up, add $10 to your family share plan, install yet?
Thanks in advance for any help.
dannyboy22 said:
So when we last tuned in...
Verizon was giving folks "difficulty" in getting their Nexus 7 (2013) LTE activated.
It would say it's not listed in the system or some such thing.
Clever folks installed sims from other phones and that worked okay.
But, has anyone gotten a straight up, add $10 to your family share plan, install yet?
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Nothing official yet. Verizon found some issues during their testing. Google and Asus are not going to fix the issues in 4.3 since 4.4 is gonna be rolled out soon. My guess is another month or two (at least).
I have the Nexus 7 LTE model and currently testing both Verizon and T-Mobile. It was EXTREMELY easy activating with Verizon. Just go to a Verizon store and purchase a MicroSim card for $15. Generate a fake IMEI number (there is a website that allows you to do this). The number generated for me tied to a Galaxy Tab. Go on Verizon site and activate (or add a new device to your plan) using the fake generated IMEI number and MicroSim number. Pop in the Micro Sim and enjoy LTE!
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Nothing official yet. Verizon found some issues during their testing. Google and Asus are not going to fix the issues in 4.3 since 4.4 is gonna be rolled out soon. My guess is another month or two (at least).
I have the Nexus 7 LTE model and currently testing both Verizon and T-Mobile. It was EXTREMELY easy activating with Verizon. Just go to a Verizon store and purchase a MicroSim card for $15. Generate a fake IMEI number (there is a website that allows you to do this). The number generated for me tied to a Galaxy Tab. Go on Verizon site and activate (or add a new device to your plan) using the fake generated IMEI number and MicroSim number. Pop in the Micro Sim and enjoy LTE!
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did you do this with the tmobile model or did you purchase the Verizon version when it was available online? thanks
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did you do this with the tmobile model or did you purchase the Verizon version when it was available online? thanks
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There is only one LTE version which can handle Verizon, T-Mobile, and ATT.
thank you!!
Anyone have the IMEI, ESN, or MEID number for the Nexus 5X(or 6P)?
verizonwireless (dot) com /b2c/nso/enterDeviceId.do
Looking to enter it in there to check if its "officially" compatible, I know it has CDMA compatibility but want to be sure.
I don't, but FWIW I called them today and they indicated (i) they aren't selling it but (ii) it will work on their network.
What are the odds we can visit a store on day one and be given a sim?
kbbeer said:
What are the odds we can visit a store on day one and be given a sim?
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Not very good imo. I would think that cutting your current Verizon sim would work the best.
kbbeer said:
What are the odds we can visit a store on day one and be given a sim?
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A simple way to get a nano SIM would be simply say you bought your buddies old iPhone 6 or Nexus 6 (Since both use nano SIM) and ask for one in store or if you're doing it over the phone ask for a new one to be shipped after telling that story. If you just come out and say it's for the 5x they might not give you one since it's not directly a Verizon device. If you do need to cut the SIM card down this works well http://www.amazon.com/Noosy-generation-Cutter-iPhone-Phones/dp/B009QTVG4K?tag=androidcentralb-20&m1k=d_ac
If you have any other questions feel free to ask !
Thanks, if I call Verizon and mention the nexus 6, will I be required to provide any specific numbers from the phone?
kbbeer said:
What are the odds we can visit a store on day one and be given a sim?
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I went into a corporate store last week, told them I was an existing customer and needed a nano sim for a phone that I bought through a private transaction.
They asked me if I had the phone with me, I said no. They asked me for my phone number, and if it was an android or apple phone (?), I gave them my number and told them android, and a few moments later I was leaving the store with a new nano sim. No hassle at all.
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Thanks, if I call Verizon and mention the nexus 6, will I be required to provide any specific numbers from the phone?
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No shouldn't need to, as mentioned below just tell them you don't have the device with you and you need a new nano SIM give your Verizon number if they ask for it and you should be good to go!
Same thing here, I'm a VZW employee and plan to use the nano sim from my iphone (ugh, I know) and slot it right into the 5x
Finally called Verizon and they are going to mail the sim, but I need to call and provide the device info to activate. Guessing that will not work.
Or you can activate a nano sim using a adaptor off amazon. They are cheap, other option is to cut your current sim down to size.
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Or you can activate a nano sim using a adaptor off amazon. They are cheap, other option is to cut your current sim down to size.
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That's exactly what I did. I always get the smallest card available and use an adapter. Saves me the trouble going between sim sizes and activating.
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Pretty sure its no big deal. As long as your a customer just walk in say you need a new sim and they will give you one..Im not even sure if they charge you for it.
The problem is activating the sim, they input details on the phone and it needs to be a Verizon approved device.
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The problem is activating the sim, they input details on the phone and it needs to be a Verizon approved device.
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The usual work around from what I've seen in YouTube videos is they need to take a SIM from an device at the store that's already activated. Some stores know this and others don't.
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EeZeEpEe said:
The usual work around from what I've seen in YouTube videos is they need to take a SIM from an device at the store that's already activated. Some stores know this and others don't.
Sent from my Sprint Galaxy S5.
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When I sold my Nexus 6 to a guy on swappa he used the imei from a display device to activate his sim card on verizon I think. I can't believe that works but apparently it does. I wish it was that easy to bring a phone to sprint. On Sprint the imei numbers have to actually be white listed in the system which always seems to lead to problems on launch day. Due to these phones being compatible with project fi I am hoping all of those numbers are already in the system since they need to be able to work on sprint's network for project fi I assume.
Day 1 - Verizon won't "Activate"
Hey guys,
Got my 5X yesterday and ran into a few problems. Still using the old phone for now, but I'm optimistic.
Nano SIM required:
Went to the Verizon store since my S5 uses a Micro SIM. They gave me a Nano but couldn't "Activate" it (see IMEI issue). They postulated if you pulled a Nano SIM from an already activated device (S6, iPhone 6, etc) on your account it may just plug and play, but this wasn't available to me. None the less they gave me the nano SIM and I proceeded to call the tech guys on the phone.
IMEI not in Verizon's Database:
After 3 transfers I finally got to a guy with his head on straight and he confirmed the IMEI isn't in Verizon's database (Deja vu anyone?). We spent a bit of time reviewing the 5X specs (bands) and he confirmed there is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed. Something tells me Big Red intentionally didn't import the device into their database in advance out of spite of the good ole Nexus history. Tech Support was very positive though and placed a request with the big wigs to add the device to the database and allow me to activate as a "new device". Hoping to get a response in the next 24-72 hours. Looks like my 18 years of loyal (Verizon) service is getting more pushing power than I did with the Nexus 5...
I'll keep you guys posted.
vjz224 said:
Hey guys,
Got my 5X yesterday and ran into a few problems. Still using the old phone for now, but I'm optimistic.
Nano SIM required:
Went to the Verizon store since my S5 uses a Micro SIM. They gave me a Nano but couldn't "Activate" it (see IMEI issue). They postulated if you pulled a Nano SIM from an already activated device (S6, iPhone 6, etc) on your account it may just plug and play, but this wasn't available to me. None the less they gave me the nano SIM and I proceeded to call the tech guys on the phone.
IMEI not in Verizon's Database:
After 3 transfers I finally got to a guy with his head on straight and he confirmed the IMEI isn't in Verizon's database (Deja vu anyone?). We spent a bit of time reviewing the 5X specs (bands) and he confirmed there is no reason why it shouldn't be allowed. Something tells me Big Red intentionally didn't import the device into their database in advance out of spite of the good ole Nexus history. Tech Support was very positive though and placed a request with the big wigs to add the device to the database and allow me to activate as a "new device". Hoping to get a response in the next 24-72 hours. Looks like my 18 years of loyal (Verizon) service is getting more pushing power than I did with the Nexus 5...
I'll keep you guys posted.
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Hi man. Dude just find a phone that uses the nano sim. Activate your new sim and put it in the 5X.
I have Verizon and Had the Sony Z3V which uses a Nano sim. I simply pulled the sim out of my Z3v and put it in my 5X. Been using it since Tuesday perfectly. Love the phone on The best COVERAGE network
Pulled the nano Sim from my iPhone and plugged it into the Nexus with no issues. VZW seems to recognize it On my Verizon as an LG device as well
I'm a VZW customer and when the device arrived I called CS. They said the device is on their whitelist and he could send me a SIM. I said that I would drive over to the store and get one. I showed up at a corporate store and 5 minutes after being helped my phone has been on VZW without any issues.
My 5x comes in on Friday and am wondering what people have been doing to get their microsim activated for their line? Did you just walk into the store with phone in hand or did you have to haggle them to do it for you and not tell them what device you're putting it in?
You may want to just go ahead and get a new nanoSIM to replace your microSIM. I actually had to get a new SIM for mine because my cut-down and sanded-down microSIM was giving me intermittent "no SIM installed" errors on the phone. I did it via Verizon customer service chat and just told them that I got a "different" phone (not "new" phone) and needed a nanoSIM to replace my old microSIM. They sent me a new SIM without asking what phone it was for, everything works fine now.
I had them mail me a sim. When I called to activate he asked was it for my htc one m7, I said yes and they proceeded to activate. When it was activated he saw it was a different phone, but I just said I bought a nexus, thanked him, and hung up.
It's worth going into an official Verizon store and asking them to activate it. I had no problem when they looked up my IMEI.
Same . no problem going into store and handing them the nexus and having them activate it
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Just throw the sim in the phone. Done.
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