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16GB internal + SD card. How does it work?

how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.

Since the phone has 16GB storage on it, theres no reason to use App2SD at all. You can run all your apps off the phone's 16GB storage.
The 16GB (actually ~11.5GB) comes up as "USB Storage" in Settings > Storage if thats what your wondering.
An SD card will show up separately under SD Card. Though in a file manager, the 16GB onboard shows up as your storage, the SD card under an "external sd" folder

Treefallingquietly said:
how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.
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I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.

Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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satur9ine said:
Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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Yes there is 2gbs for apps. If u use app2sd u can put the apps on the other internal partition thy has 11gb. Works for me when I tried it.
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strongsteve said:
I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.
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This is good to know. So based on all the other comments, Apps go to the internal memory or the extended internal memory and I can keep music/video/books on SD.
thanks all.

Finally got hands on with phone. I noticed the internal memory is listed as USB storage but when I go to app management it doesn't give me the option to move apps out of ram to USB memory, just move to SD card.
What gives?

How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?

Its pretty amazing how much this phone brings to the table... 1gig ram, 16gig internal storage.. this phone keeps.blowing me away, it really does. I am very impressed with samsung. I would be running roms on my evo and it didn't have enough ram to hold the contents of a web pagr if I multi tasked to xda. I would hold the home button and fast switch to the internet again and the browser would have to load it all over again instead of having enough ram to just keep it there. I'm inlove haha

IA-32e said:
How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?
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I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?

This hasn't worked for me. Everytime I try to move apps to internal storage, it says that there is no sd card inserted, and I need to insert one.

Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?

bluefire808 said:
I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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Ok that makes sense.

gedster314 said:
Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?
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+1. I too would love to know if there's a "best practice" for how to manage the storage memory on the EG4T. Should I just put all media in the onboard USB storage, and then only use my SD card as overflow, or are there certain things that might be better put on the SD card? I'm probably overthinking this, but I'd like to get a handle on this now while the device is new and I don't have much on it yet.

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I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.

HappyFillmore said:
I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.
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look into darktremor apps2sd maybe? not claiming it works, just a suggestion

bluefire808 said:
I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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The rom takes up about 3 gigs (just under) and 2 gigs are partitioned for apps. The rest is partitioned as USB Mass Storage (11.5) So 11.5+2+2.5 = 16, thats a rough estimate of how it breaks down anyways. The OS is usually between 2.5-3 gigs depending on how much the manufacturer adds to it. Stock Android is 2 gigs. Sammy doesnt add major bloat so it comes out to like 2.5 to 2.65 gigs. Motorola however usually comes out to 2.75-3 gigs. Which is why I like Sammy. ICS is about 3 gigs stock though, so remember that when you decide to upgrade to ICS later on. You'll be sacrificing memory on a device that wasnt built for it. Sammy added that extra memory for when ICS does come out, just in case. They were aware of the extra memory in ICS.

Anyone having issues with running out of Memory?

I had an LG G Pad (got stolen this weekend, GRRR) so I am shopping for my next tablet. my one issue is the 16GB of memory, is it enough, or is apps to SD available on this now? I was running out of space on the g pad even putting what (little) I could on my sd card. Thanks

aawshads said:
I had an LG G Pad (got stolen this weekend, GRRR) so I am shopping for my next tablet. my one issue is the 16GB of memory, is it enough, or is apps to SD available on this now? I was running out of space on the g pad even putting what (little) I could on my sd card. Thanks
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I have the SM-T325 16gb internal with 64gb microsd card. No issue with sufficiency of internal storage. The OS needed only 3.98gb, my apps totaling 90 used only 2.32 gb and I still have available space of 10.26gb, plus of course the external storage. To top it all, you can move the apps to the external microsd card; it is a built-in capability without requiring the app2sd app.

ondoy1943 said:
I have the SM-T325 16gb internal with 64gb microsd card. No issue with sufficiency of internal storage. The OS needed only 3.98gb, my apps totaling 90 used only 2.32 gb and I still have available space of 10.26gb, plus of course the external storage. To top it all, you can move the apps to the external microsd card; it is a built-in capability without requiring the app2sd app.
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Thank you very much, great information.

Its a very subjective question. It depends on what you need to put on the tablet storage, and if you can put media, etc. on the removable SD card. If you can put stuff on an SD, just buy a 32 or 64 GB one, and you're good to go.
I personally agree that 16 GB is bit low for devices nowadays. 32 GB would have been great. But the Tab Pro 8.4 (WiFi) was what I wanted, and is only available with 16 GB, far as I can tell. I use it with a 32 GB SD, and its workable.

It has the inherent issue of having 2 external storage. The primary being a partitioned storage in the internal memory which is part of the 16GB of the device. Any app you move to SD would move it to that storage thereby using up the internal 16GB storage of the device. So far I have not found a way to move the app to the real external storage, the removable SD card.
With that being said, installing games that are huge would eat up your 16GB device storage.

Rooted?
If you're rooted, there are many ways to move "apps" (or rather, apps data) to the SD card.
The one I use is FolderMount, available in the play store. It allows to mount a folder from your internal storage to the SD card, so everything happens for the system as if it was internal storage, but the files are saved to the SD card. I do that for my OBB folder (Android / obb) which contains around 20GB of games data currently... And still have 10GB left on my internal storage because of that.

Guillaume Delarue said:
If you're rooted, there are many ways to move "apps" (or rather, apps data) to the SD card.
The one I use is FolderMount, available in the play store. It allows to mount a folder from your internal storage to the SD card, so everything happens for the system as if it was internal storage, but the files are saved to the SD card. I do that for my OBB folder (Android / obb) which contains around 20GB of games data currently... And still have 10GB left on my internal storage because of that.
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I was trying to avoid root but it seems there's no choice in this case.
One question though before I take the plunge and root, there's another folder under the Android folder called data, should I mount that as well?

[Q] Swap SD Card with internal Storage

I am running low on storage on my S4 mini, and with CM11 that doesn't allow moving apps to the SD card things are getting worse.
Samsung has formatted the device is such a way that the internal storage is recognised as "sdcard0", I don't know why they did it and I don't care.
Is there a way to swap my internal storage with my sd card? I have a 32gb class 10 sd card and i think it is more than enough for use as internal storage.
Thanks

alrosh7 said:
I am running low on storage on my S4 mini, and with CM11 that doesn't allow moving apps to the SD card things are getting worse.
Samsung has formatted the device is such a way that the internal storage is recognised as "sdcard0", I don't know why they did it and I don't care.
Is there a way to swap my internal storage with my sd card? I have a 32gb class 10 sd card and i think it is more than enough for use as internal storage.
Thanks
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"link to sd"
and the app to enable the external storage in the apps is called "handle external storage" it's an xposed module

Adoptable Storage HTC 10

So I have read that there is a way to do mixed adoptable storage on Marshmallow. Allowing part of the SD card to be internal and part to be external memory. I followed the steps to obtain this through using ADB but allows get sd corrupt error or does not recognize this format. In either instance I have to format the card and start over.
Has anyone come across this issue and have a solution?
Or does anyone have a suggestion?
I'm trying to use my Sandisk Ultra 128GB in my US unlocked HTC 10 running Venom ROM.

I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.

schmeggy929 said:
I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.
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I know it's pretty useless but I could use a little more storage for all my apps.
I heard you can do a 2nd partition on the SD card and use that partition only as adoptable storage. The rest of the SD would be used like a normal SD card.

schmeggy929 said:
I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.
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I know it's pretty useless but I could use a little more storage for all my apps.
I heard you can do a 2nd partition on the SD card and use that partition only as adoptable storage. The rest of the SD would be used like a normal SD card.

Its useful if you happen to drop your phone with all your naked pics. They cant take out the sd card and access it from their computer.

jmorales30 said:
I know it's pretty useless but I could use a little more storage for all my apps.
I heard you can do a 2nd partition on the SD card and use that partition only as adoptable storage. The rest of the SD would be used like a normal SD card.
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If I am not mistaken that causes more issues then not. The way the adaptable storage is coded it was made to use the whole sdcard. So trying to partition it doesn't really work well.

How do you change Back from one to the other?
How do you convert a "existing" removeable storage SDXC card (with data) to be a "internal" storage card? Or vice versa? I'm looking to change my Samsung Evo 256GB (class 10, U3) card which I initially made "removeable", to become "Internal". I'm not looking for lectures on the "pro and cons", just a step by step process to do this. FYI - I wanted the larger and faster memory for 4K videos. I have no problem with this being a dedicated card to my HTC 10 once completed. Please note that as a removeable storage card, I'm finding duplicate files (internal/removeable). What's up with that?

dpsrams said:
How do you convert a "existing" removeable storage SDXC card (with data) to be a "internal" storage card? Or vice versa? I'm looking to change my Samsung Evo 256GB (class 10, U3) card which I initially made "removeable", to become "Internal". I'm not looking for lectures on the "pro and cons", just a step by step process to do this. FYI - I wanted the larger and faster memory for 4K videos. I have no problem with this being a dedicated card to my HTC 10 once completed. Please note that as a removeable storage card, I'm finding duplicate files (internal/removeable). What's up with that?
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You will have to clear it out as it will format the sdcard. No way around it and it will have to be set as non removable.

zelendel said:
You will have to clear it out as it will format the sdcard. No way around it and it will have to be set as non removable.
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So in either scenario, you'll have to copy the "entire" content of your SDXC card to your computer (or other storage device), and then recopy back once the card is reformatted as the other storage (internal/removeable)? Isn't there a tool or something to help do this? I already have 56GB on the card. Isn't there folders that should only be on "internal" and not on "removeable" (in copying entire card)?

dpsrams said:
So in either scenario, you'll have to copy the "entire" content of your SDXC card to your computer (or other storage device), and then recopy back once the card is reformatted as the other storage (internal/removeable)? Isn't there a tool or something to help do this? I already have 56GB on the card.
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Pretty much. Also to be honest it really doesnt make much of a diff. This option was made for devices with low internal memory. You know devices with like 4gb of internal memory where there is no room for apps at all.
A waste of a feature on any real flagship device. This is why most OEM removed or hid the option.

zelendel said:
Pretty much. Also to be honest it really doesnt make much of a diff. This option was made for devices with low internal memory. You know devices with like 4gb of internal memory where there is no room for apps at all.
A waste of a feature on any real flagship device. This is why most OEM removed or hid the option.
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Ok, so are you also saying that I'll not see any performance difference with the Samsung Evo 256GB card (R-95MBS/W-90MBS). I got it specifically to "better" handle 4K videos. I would expect a performance boost having this as "internal" memory. No?

schmeggy929 said:
I wouldn't even use Adoptable Storage. There really isn't much benefit to using it in my opinion. Also now you have an SD card that is useless outside the phone. Reformat the sd card.
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zelendel said:
Pretty much. Also to be honest it really doesnt make much of a diff. This option was made for devices with low internal memory. You know devices with like 4gb of internal memory where there is no room for apps at all.
A waste of a feature on any real flagship device. This is why most OEM removed or hid the option.
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on problem in marshmallow is you cannot move a lot of apps to sd card. switching to adopted storage allows them to use the space. over the years ive started using a lot of apps, that over the years got very large in size. 32gb is barely holding in there now and adopted storage will allow more when without it I would have to start deleting apps.
I didn't run into any adb issues or flashing issues when using it, but at the moment I have it set to removable since I have really nothing new to add.

dpsrams said:
Ok, so are you also saying that I'll not see any performance difference with the Samsung Evo 256GB card (R-95MBS/W-90MBS). I got it specifically to "better" handle 4K videos. I would expect a performance boost having this as "internal" memory. No?
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No you wont see an increase at all and maybe a bit of a decrease due to the different ways OEMs added SDcard support (remember google removed support from the OS so all SDcard code for mounting and using are all on the OEM.)

afuller42 said:
on problem in marshmallow is you cannot move a lot of apps to sd card. switching to adopted storage allows them to use the space. over the years ive started using a lot of apps, that over the years got very large in size. 32gb is barely holding in there now and adopted storage will allow more when without it I would have to start deleting apps.
I didn't run into any adb issues or flashing issues when using it, but at the moment I have it set to removable since I have really nothing new to add.
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Well that is because of the way android mounts the sdcard. Putting apps on the sdcard is just asking for trouble. I have never had more then a 32gb device for the last few years and never used more then half. I also dont keep anything I dont need on my device. Apps are less then 10.

Facebook app lags or freezes on SD card (Adoptable Storage ). any solution ?

format sd card to internal memory

Hello forum,
i´m about to purchase a xiaomi mi a2 lite 64gb 4gb ram and i am concerned that these 64gb of storage wont be enough for me.
i like the idea of Android one and the benefits of it (sleek, needs not much space and so on ... ) and i want to use the stock android.
i already found out that you can format an sd card as internal storage but can anyone of you tell me if you can use this normally with the same speed as the internal storage?
have you made any experiences with an sd card formated as internal storage ?
If yes, which sd card functions properly as an internal storage?
thanks!

High there,
The Samsung 128 Gb works perfectly. noissues with speed so far
Cheers

External SD cards are always worlds slower compared to the internal storage. I really wouldn't suggest to use the card as adoptable storage, better use it as portable storage. Use the internal storage for apps+their data und store pictures, movies, Spotify and such stuff on the external SD.
If your phone breaks, you can't read SD cards formatted as adoptable storage with any other device, because it's encrypted and bound to that unique device.

Pie update solves this issue I think. Just got it today.

Kwaadpepper said:
Pie update solves this issue I think. Just got it today.
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What issue does it solve?