I had an LG G Pad (got stolen this weekend, GRRR) so I am shopping for my next tablet. my one issue is the 16GB of memory, is it enough, or is apps to SD available on this now? I was running out of space on the g pad even putting what (little) I could on my sd card. Thanks
aawshads said:
I had an LG G Pad (got stolen this weekend, GRRR) so I am shopping for my next tablet. my one issue is the 16GB of memory, is it enough, or is apps to SD available on this now? I was running out of space on the g pad even putting what (little) I could on my sd card. Thanks
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I have the SM-T325 16gb internal with 64gb microsd card. No issue with sufficiency of internal storage. The OS needed only 3.98gb, my apps totaling 90 used only 2.32 gb and I still have available space of 10.26gb, plus of course the external storage. To top it all, you can move the apps to the external microsd card; it is a built-in capability without requiring the app2sd app.
ondoy1943 said:
I have the SM-T325 16gb internal with 64gb microsd card. No issue with sufficiency of internal storage. The OS needed only 3.98gb, my apps totaling 90 used only 2.32 gb and I still have available space of 10.26gb, plus of course the external storage. To top it all, you can move the apps to the external microsd card; it is a built-in capability without requiring the app2sd app.
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Thank you very much, great information.
Its a very subjective question. It depends on what you need to put on the tablet storage, and if you can put media, etc. on the removable SD card. If you can put stuff on an SD, just buy a 32 or 64 GB one, and you're good to go.
I personally agree that 16 GB is bit low for devices nowadays. 32 GB would have been great. But the Tab Pro 8.4 (WiFi) was what I wanted, and is only available with 16 GB, far as I can tell. I use it with a 32 GB SD, and its workable.
It has the inherent issue of having 2 external storage. The primary being a partitioned storage in the internal memory which is part of the 16GB of the device. Any app you move to SD would move it to that storage thereby using up the internal 16GB storage of the device. So far I have not found a way to move the app to the real external storage, the removable SD card.
With that being said, installing games that are huge would eat up your 16GB device storage.
Rooted?
If you're rooted, there are many ways to move "apps" (or rather, apps data) to the SD card.
The one I use is FolderMount, available in the play store. It allows to mount a folder from your internal storage to the SD card, so everything happens for the system as if it was internal storage, but the files are saved to the SD card. I do that for my OBB folder (Android / obb) which contains around 20GB of games data currently... And still have 10GB left on my internal storage because of that.
Guillaume Delarue said:
If you're rooted, there are many ways to move "apps" (or rather, apps data) to the SD card.
The one I use is FolderMount, available in the play store. It allows to mount a folder from your internal storage to the SD card, so everything happens for the system as if it was internal storage, but the files are saved to the SD card. I do that for my OBB folder (Android / obb) which contains around 20GB of games data currently... And still have 10GB left on my internal storage because of that.
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I was trying to avoid root but it seems there's no choice in this case.
One question though before I take the plunge and root, there's another folder under the Android folder called data, should I mount that as well?
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how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.
Since the phone has 16GB storage on it, theres no reason to use App2SD at all. You can run all your apps off the phone's 16GB storage.
The 16GB (actually ~11.5GB) comes up as "USB Storage" in Settings > Storage if thats what your wondering.
An SD card will show up separately under SD Card. Though in a file manager, the 16GB onboard shows up as your storage, the SD card under an "external sd" folder
Treefallingquietly said:
how does Apps2SD work when you have internal memory and an SD Card?
If you don't have an SD card, do the apps go to internal Memory.
Just curious how this all works since my current phone doesn't have internal RAM.
What I would like to do is keep Music/videos in one storage and apps in the other.
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I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.
Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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Actually there is only 2 gb of storage for apps. The rest of the internal memory is for media and other files. If you choose to install to SD it will install to external SD card.
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Yes there is 2gbs for apps. If u use app2sd u can put the apps on the other internal partition thy has 11gb. Works for me when I tried it.
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strongsteve said:
I cant possibly see why anyone would still use Apps2SD with this amount of internal storage. Accessing apps from an external drive is so much slower.
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This is good to know. So based on all the other comments, Apps go to the internal memory or the extended internal memory and I can keep music/video/books on SD.
thanks all.
Finally got hands on with phone. I noticed the internal memory is listed as USB storage but when I go to app management it doesn't give me the option to move apps out of ram to USB memory, just move to SD card.
What gives?
How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?
Its pretty amazing how much this phone brings to the table... 1gig ram, 16gig internal storage.. this phone keeps.blowing me away, it really does. I am very impressed with samsung. I would be running roms on my evo and it didn't have enough ram to hold the contents of a web pagr if I multi tasked to xda. I would hold the home button and fast switch to the internet again and the browser would have to load it all over again instead of having enough ram to just keep it there. I'm inlove haha
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How do they get away with saying it's 16GB internal when it's actually 11.5GB?
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I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
This hasn't worked for me. Everytime I try to move apps to internal storage, it says that there is no sd card inserted, and I need to insert one.
Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?
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I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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Ok that makes sense.
gedster314 said:
Can some suggest a good way to use the memory?
The Incredible had 8GB internal but the phone was setup never to use it, except for pictures. Everything went on the SDcard. I bought the Incredible used and the guy did a full reset from with in Android but when I got it the internal memory was still full of pictures, unfortunately nothing X-rated or blackmailable.
The E4GT is just as *ssbackwards. In / you have an sdcard which is internal storage. In sdcard you have a link for ext_sd and usbStorage. I put my Music in usbStorage and no music app can find it. How crazy is that? I just want one sdcard link that actually goes to the sdcard, that I would use for Media. The internal sdcard memory used for /data and a home folder. Come on Samsung, doesn't that make more sense?
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+1. I too would love to know if there's a "best practice" for how to manage the storage memory on the EG4T. Should I just put all media in the onboard USB storage, and then only use my SD card as overflow, or are there certain things that might be better put on the SD card? I'm probably overthinking this, but I'd like to get a handle on this now while the device is new and I don't have much on it yet.
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I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.
HappyFillmore said:
I have filled the internal sd with some games and have room on external sd how do I transfer aps from internal sd to external sd? I have searched found some things about a apk converter??? I love the 16gb internal but it is not enough for my needs. I did see the adb method to swap internal and external sd cards.
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look into darktremor apps2sd maybe? not claiming it works, just a suggestion
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I'm not exactly sure how it works but I think 2gig is partuined for apps and some more for the rom right?
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The rom takes up about 3 gigs (just under) and 2 gigs are partitioned for apps. The rest is partitioned as USB Mass Storage (11.5) So 11.5+2+2.5 = 16, thats a rough estimate of how it breaks down anyways. The OS is usually between 2.5-3 gigs depending on how much the manufacturer adds to it. Stock Android is 2 gigs. Sammy doesnt add major bloat so it comes out to like 2.5 to 2.65 gigs. Motorola however usually comes out to 2.75-3 gigs. Which is why I like Sammy. ICS is about 3 gigs stock though, so remember that when you decide to upgrade to ICS later on. You'll be sacrificing memory on a device that wasnt built for it. Sammy added that extra memory for when ICS does come out, just in case. They were aware of the extra memory in ICS.
So if I'm not mistaken, this phone is suppose to come with a 4GB internal storage n a 16GB (or 14.something something GB in reality)MicroSD card. Ok, I get that much, but, where is that 4GB internal storage? I checked in the Storage section and all I see is the 16GB SD card and 1.89GB free space under Internal Storage. If that 1.89GB is the only space left from the 4GB, what the hell is occupying the other 2GB of space? It can't be the OS (I'm very sure that's on a different chip/ram/etc) and whatever it is, I'm not seeing them on the phone (since the HD videos were even deleted when I format the SD card). So what is in here?
Also, Unlike on the Atrix, it seems you can't unmount the internal storage and view them on the computer under mass storage. In the atrix, when I connect the phone to the PC, I get 2 removable drives pop up, one the microSD and the other is called MB860, which is the internal storage of the phone.....So why can't we do the same thing on this phone? Is there something hidden in there? And if it's locked, that means LG lied about having 20GB of storage available on the phone, while it's only 16GB.
According to the official datasheet for the phone (click here) on page 2 under specifications it states that the phone has 4gb internal storage but only 1.91 gb is usable for apps (which is why on your phone it only shows ~1.9 gb available in info).
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According to the official datasheet for the phone (click here) on page 2 under specifications it states that the phone has 4gb internal storage but only 1.91 gb is usable for apps (which is why on your phone it only shows ~1.9 gb available in info).
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Awww!! That is BS!! So now I actually need to get a 32GB even if that 20GB would have sufficed -__-
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According to the official datasheet for the phone on page 2 under specifications it states that the phone has 4gb internal storage but only 1.91 gb is usable for apps (which is why on your phone it only shows ~1.9 gb available in info).
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if that is for apps then tell me why i cant download anything from the market with out my sdcard mounted
tokie_ said:
if that is for apps then tell me why i cant download anything from the market with out my sdcard mounted
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That leftover space on the internal storage is for apps, specifically for apps that only works or works better in the internal storage over ext. sd card. I just restored all my apps for TiBu, and the apps that go into the internal storage end up in there , and those that go into the sd card end up in my sd card.
Now I only have 845MB of space left on the internal storage, which is not much at all, albeit it is sufficient for several hundred for apps, but still it's very little.
i say once we find a way to get CFW on the phone then we might be able to access it
Let's also remember that the Nitro HD has the 2GB of storage available, while the Optimus LTE only has 1GB.
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Let's also remember that the Nitro HD has the 2GB of storage available, while the Optimus LTE only has 1GB.
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are you talking about it's ROM storage capacity? (I don't what exactly it is called lol)
Application storage.
I realised that Galaxy W got 3 layers of memory which is phone storage, USB storage and ext sd card, and I found out that most of the apps are saved in internal storage (USB storage), but it has very limited spaces, so I would like to move all the apps to my ext sd card.
Anyone can guide me that how to do so???
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There are 3 storage options on this phone...
ROM aka Device Memory = 1GB = Where apps install to.
Internal SD aka USB Storage = 2GB = Extra space
External SD aka SD Card = upto 32gb microSD card.
So you dont need to use an external SD card until you've used up nearly 3gb of space!
Have you used 3GB already?
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There are 3 storage options on this phone...
ROM aka Device Memory = 1GB = Where apps install to.
Internal SD aka USB Storage = 2GB = Extra space
External SD aka SD Card = upto 32gb microSD card.
So you dont need to use an external SD card until you've used up nearly 3gb of space!
Have you used 3GB already?
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There is no installation of apps on the so-called USB Storage/Internal Storage......This is intended for data associated with apps, and storage for stuff like pics/photos/music.
There is built-in App2SD support in all Androids since Froyo, but it is not automatically invoked....you need to go to Settings/Manage Applications.
Look under Downloaded, where all the d/l Apps are listed, and tap on any app you wish to install on your SD Card, your external SD card, this is not internal so-called SD/USB Storage.
Any App that can be moved, will have a Move to SD card option.....those which are not written to enable movement, will be greyed out.
You could also get App2SD from market, which will give you a notification when an App is downloaded that it can be moved, and allows you to do this when you select the notification. It works well......IMHO. I use it and cannot fault it.
There is also another App 2 SD, which does a similar job, but has a Pro paid-for version......reports on Market that it does not support External SD, which is what we have, so avoid....IMHO
Right so still abit confused over this. Before i installed Kerza'a rom onto the phone.
Under the settings and storage and where is shows sd card, usb storage and Device memory.
On sd card it use to show my 8gb card and in the usb storage it use to show the 1.7gb that came on the phone.
After i installed kerza's rom it switched. But no matter what i do my apps still save to the smaller 1.7gb space.
Is there anything that can be done?
This means that KP's ROM switches mount points for SD's, and your Large SD Card is now considered as Internal SD.......
and no Apps can be moved to Internal, by Samsung design, they move to external SD.
arco says this will change with ICS, when and if we get it......
On the good side, your apps are now on probably faster Internal Storage (now mapped as External SD)......and you have more than enough to cater for apps IMHO. And you can probably force move other apps, maybe with Titanium Backup, or other ways, just be careful, some Apps should not be moved, so trial and error.
Even when I used DT's A2SD, on my previous, the biggest sd-sxt I used was 1GB.
Hi.
My wife has already in use the Nokia 5.1 for a while. At that time we have also used a 64GB SD card and formatted it as internal memory. Thus, just under 80GB should be available as one drive.
However, the additional memory of the SD card is obviously not used, because although almost 60 GB continue to be free, the mobile phone complains about missing memory if you want to make photos or install apps.
The attempt to format the SD card as external memory brought no improvement, especially as apps like the camera can not access it then.
What do you have to do so that the storage space of the SD card is attached to the internal memory and is used by the mobile phone?
Thanks in advance.
In order to free up some internal memory on my A3 2017 Android 8, I moved all moveable apps to an external SD card.
The problem is, when one of these apps is updated, this app is moved back to internal memory.
Is there a way to permanently leave these apps in the external memory?
Sadly no, that's how Android works. The system has to move the apps back to internal storage in order to update them. Play Store can't write on the SD card.
Ok, thanks for your answer.
... is it possible to mount the sd-card as internal storage?
I have the same problem. I want to use the phone any longer, because it works ... but the space is the problem.
It is possible but you must root your phone to do this.
Some bank apps will also not work with this solution.
It is a shame that this phone is only equiped with 16 gigs of internal memory.
I like it a lot because it fits my needs and that it is small enough to fit in my pocket.