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Nexus 5x or 6P?

I'm so confused as to which nexus to pick. I like the screensize of the 5x but the specs on 6p are better. I want a high end phone but at the same time i don't want a phablet. What are you guys going for?

If you do not consider screen size when deciding which model to get you will be disappointed in the long run.

I'm going for the 5x. I have the moto 6 atm

I can't decide either. I prefer IPS LCD displays rather than AMOLED displays because the exaggerated colors on AMOLED displays!
In the other hand 6p has more battery capacity with lower screen size than N6! And a nice metal design! I don't care that much about their cpu/gpu or ram specifications.
Other thing is storage size, I need more than 32gb. I prefer 64gb with atleast a reasonable price.

I am going with the 5x if it has a notification LED. Otherwise I will stick with my 2013 Nexus 5 for another year. I need a device with a robust notification system and nothing beats a customizable light for that. I can tell from across a room what notification my phone has and at work that is priceless as I cannot continually be using my phone. The ambient display of the nexus 6 is not good enough. The notifications time out/turn off after a period of time and aren't customizable in any way.
The 6P is too big for me. It may as well be a Note or whatever.

Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/

setspeed said:
Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/
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I think you're pretty spot on here. I was hoping for a spec bump on the 5X as a excuse to Swappa out the M9 for a N5X, however it would basically be a spec downgrade at this point, or a spec match on the 6P, in which case, probably not worth the hassle. Guess I'll just be waiting until the next round of phones in Spring 2016!
Also, for the record, I've had very little issue with the 810's performance on the M9. There was a large update that worked towards mitigating some of the throttling, and the phone still has plenty of juice while warm. I wouldn't consider it a poor chip by any means, and do not let this dissuade you if you are set on a 6P!

I ditched my Nexus 6 due to its AMOLED display. My eyes were burning from its over-saturated colors.
But I now i want to go with 6P. I already spent quite a time with LG's N4 and N5. Huawei's turn.

Evo_Shift said:
I am going with the 5x if it has a notification LED. .
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It has been confirmed that the 5X has an LED notification light, this was a big concern of mine too.
I really don't want a 6 inch (or 5.7) phone. i have the GS5 right now and still think it's too big. I have yet to own a nexus phone so i'm thinking purely based on screen size that i'll go with the 5X. Not too concerned about 2GB of ram, and i think the 808 will do just fine with vanilla M. I am bummed about no wireless charging, i added it to the GS5 even though it made the back quite bigger, but USB C will be nice.

I would've gone with the 5 if it had a 64GB and 3GB ram option.
The battery I think is fine since my current 5.7 QHD Moto X as a 3000Mah battery which gets bout 4hrs SOT so I think a 2700 on a 5.2" display should be fine.
The storage and ram really bothered me and it's shame for N5 users since it' barely an upgrade.
I did go with the 6P,I worry about the 810 since I also got a chance to use the OPT and wasn't impressed

I went with the 5X 16 gig. I stream everything (thanks Verizon unlimited) and really don't use a ton of apps. All my photos get instantly backed up to Google Photos so I can just delete them from my phone whenever.
Not even remotely worried about performance and any phone has a better camera than my Moto X 2013 that I use now. If I want really nice pics I'll bring my Sony point and shoot along.
I'm a short dude. I have no idea how I'd fit the 6P in my jeans pocket this winter. And I don't even wear skinny jeans.
The only thing I'm bummed about is the lack of cables that come with the phone. No C to A cable included AND the wall charger cable isn't detachable. Weak.

I really, really wanted to want the 5X. I love my Nexus 4. I like the LG company. But with $80 getting me another GB of faster ram, metal build, larger battery, faster charging, and (the big one) better graphics, I had to go with the 6P.
I wanted something N4/iphone 6 size though. If it's too large for me I will return it.

I went with 5X 16g as well. I have no need for extra space, I usually move my photo and video to NAS. As far as for music, I stream them online. LG is the company I trust since N4 to my current N5. A Chinese run company? I don't know??? Time will change my mind.

I went with the 5X because I currently have an LG G3 (which is almost the exact same size despite having a larger screen) and the screen size is at the limits of what I can use one-handed. The monstrous size of the 6P is just too big for me.

this is my first High end phone; i took the 5X 16Gio!
I took it because I thought is was more ecological than buying a Android phone, a Ubuntu phone and a FirefoxOS phone... The N5 couls run all these OS, I really hope the N5X does!
I am quite disappointed though, I thought it was a 3.1 USB port and thus could accept a keyboard and a screen...

Of course most of us want the highest spec'd device, that's normal. I want a more compact size phone (not phablet sized) and for it to perform the way I want (no matter what the specs are) with the latest greatest stock Google software updates. I want a good phone camera. I believe the 5X is the best choice. The 5X is going to scream

I don't watch movies listen to music or play games on my phone so the 16g 5x is plenty for me but I did order the 32g blue ice

One factor to consider in the US is that the 6P supports LTE band 30 whereas the 5X does not. LTE 30 is a new band supported by AT&T.
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yeah i ended up ordering the 5x but it is tough to cough up the money for it considering you get so much more phone in the 6p for a little bit more money, keeping in mind that the two are from completely different kinds of companies.
100% of my decision came down to size. I just dont think there is ever a need for a phablet.
I do wish the quick charge was better (i hear that the 6p quick charges much more quickly)
amoled makes more sense for ambient display which is a must for me coming from a moto x dev
and that 240fps video of the hummingbird is delicious
all the other stuff about storage is a non issue. This is what cloud services are for
and 2gb ram should be plenty. If more performance is needed, this needs to be done on the software side. its like worrying about horsepower in a car and ignoring weight.

I chose the nexus 5x. It was what we N5 users wanted on the first place. Just an updated N5, we kept on saying that we just need a better camera, and better battery and of course updated specs(but not the best), for only a little bit higher than the price of the original N5. If anything, google actually listened to their customers.
I think google screwed themselves over for releasing two phones at the same time, giving customers too many options creates anguish.
Question, if google only released N5x and you had no knowledge about 6p, would you still have your doubts?

Would you consider 5x an upgrade from a Galaxy S4?

Has anyone who has jumped from a Galaxy S4 to a Nexus 5X consider the switch an upgrade?
I am considering getting a midrange phone to last me 8 months until my next subsidized Verizon upgrade, I would insist on a replaceable battery for a phone being used for over a year and/or costing over ~$400, but the 5X looks usable at $329.
The specs look similar, and the 5X display is perhaps a downgrade, but I am sick of laggy S4 touchwiz, and it looks like installing CM on my baseband S4 will brick the phone.
I guess other options are the Moto X Pure or Nexus 6P but I have trouble reconciling spending even that much for a phone programmed to die by way of non-replaceable burnt out battery.

i switched from a 16GB S4 + 16GB SDcard to the 32GB 5X.
do i consider it an upgrade? yes, definitely. will i miss the SD-slot? maybe eventually. will i miss the removable battery? not if the battery does its job at least as good as the one in my S4, which still is almost as good as new (back in my S1 times i had to switch between 3 batteries).
as you already said, touchwiz just sucks and (imo) is ugly as hell. the nexus just runs so much smoother and doesn't come with all the bloat. the fingerprint sensor works perfectly and makes picking up the phone and actually using it quite a bit faster. rooting is easy, updates come quick, and i have a guarantee that i get those updates as soon as possible.
the camera is just amazing in comparison. the screen, while not being an amoled display does a great job and of course doesn't suffer from the movement shadows i had to deal with on the S4.
considering CM on the S4: well im one of the lucky ones who got his antenna fried, a bug that to my knowledge never got completely fixed or even fully acknowledged. the consequences being that cell reception was only ever acceptable on that one build.
i hope this helps. if it's worth to spend $329 on it for only eight months is entirely up to you.

The display is most certainly not a downgrade. OLED has come a long way in the last few years but the S4 generation OLED had subpar colour accuracy and brightness even for its day.
On the other hand the 5x IPS panel took the top mobile IPS panel spot away from the iPhone 6s which costs twice as much.
http://anandtech.com/show/9742/the-google-nexus-5x-review/2
I really don't know what else to say about the Nexus 5X's display, because there's really nothing that can be criticized. I would certainly like if the brightness went up to 600 nits, but I would also prefer that it went to 6000 nits, and obviously that's asking a bit much. As far as LCDs go, the Nexus 5X has one of the best, if not the best that I've seen to date. At this point Google and their OEM partners are going to have to look to gamut as a vector of improvement, but only after proper color management is available at the OS level in order to avoid the problems that have plagued wider gamut displays, which have lacked suitable color management to properly map sRGB content into the wider color space.
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Thanks. Yeah upon more research it looks like the 5x is definitely an upgrade from S4, I thought I had seen some benchmarks somewhere that showed them to be similar, must have been the geekbench site, but phonearena's benchmarks show the 5x to be far superior to the S4 in both performance and display, and not far behind the 6P. I should have pulled the trigger at $80 off in November, guess I will have to settle for $50 off.
Only reservation now is non-swappable battery and I'd have rather seen 3 GB Ram and 32 GB storage base, but should be fine for 8 months to a year.

It's an upgrade even coming from my S5.
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I am coming from an SGH-I337 Galaxy S4 16gb. So far hardware wise it is an upgrade except for the screen. It has a very slight reddish yellow tint to it, not the crisp bluish white tint a galaxy has. Some people like it, I do not but I have heard it can be changed by rooting it. The only lag I have seen has been on websites with tons of graphics (slow to display pics when scrolling) other than that it is quick to move through screens and open apps. Have not tried any games. The finger print scanner is an awesome feature and works very well. I bought an unlocked N5X so it had nothing but bare bones Marshmallow 6 and it leaves a lot to be desired, if you were a custom to and used a lot of the apps that came with an S4 like gallery, memo, calendar, my files then you will need to find suitable replacements. The default keyboard in the messaging app has me all buggered right now, some genius thought it would be a good idea to put the microphone key right below the send key and for us fat fingered folks it is pretty much impossible to hit. I have not experienced any of the camera issues the N5X is notorious for yet, seems to run a little slow but nothing that is a show stopper.
Bottom line. Hardware is faster, screen is bigger with higher resolution, finger print reader is awesome, Marshmallow kind of sucks but that is my opinion, I bought it because it is a whole lot easier to root than the S4 and a whole lot easier to put custom ROMS on from what I have read. So far for me it is a trade off and the verdict is still out on whether I'm keeping it. Just wanted to offer my opinion because I know how much it sucks looking for a replacement with so many options avalible.

ajndede said:
Just wanted to offer my opinion because I know how much it sucks looking for a replacement with so many options avalible.
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My problem is the device I want if I am paying flagship prices nobody makes.
I want swappable battery, stock android, snappy performance, AMOLED, fingerprint sensor, high screen to phone ratio (small bezel). So the Nexus 6P with a removable battery, or a Note 5 or S6 with removable battery and stock android, or LG G5 with stock android and an OLED, etc etc... every device is missing something on my list.
Pulled trigger on the 5X yesterday, just have to set it up on Verizon when it arrives, also ordered nano sim cutter.
And in Fall 2016 I'll probably get the best 2016 phone I can that has a swappable battery and hopefully fingerprint sensor, probably the LG G5.

joelbnyc said:
My problem is the device I want if I am paying flagship prices nobody makes.
I want swappable battery, stock android, snappy performance, AMOLED, fingerprint sensor, high screen to phone ratio (small bezel). So the Nexus 6P with a removable battery, or a Note 5 or S6 with removable battery and stock android, or LG G5 with stock android and an OLED, etc etc... every device is missing something on my list.
Pulled trigger on the 5X yesterday, just have to set it up on Verizon when it arrives, also ordered nano sim cutter.
And in Fall 2016 I'll probably get the best 2016 phone I can that has a swappable battery and hopefully fingerprint sensor, probably the LG G5.
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Why order a nano sim cutter as opposed to simply going to a Verizon store to get a nano sim card for free?
But anyway, the N5X is definitely an upgrade over my previous S4. No question. Sure, it still has its quirks and bugs, but every phone does. Those aside, it's still a better phone overall. Especially for the price. The point made above about having a better IPS panel than the iPhone at half the price could be said for many of the features. When you think about it, it's quite impressive what you get for your money (by comparison of course).
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plwalsh88 said:
Why order a nano sim cutter as opposed to simply going to a Verizon store to get a nano sim card for free?
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Only $8 on amazon for aerb cutter and adapter, $4 more than the nano to micro adapter alone which I wanted anyway so I could save the S4 as a backup, and I kinda like diy projects anyway. Was pretty easy to cut.

I switched from a 16 GB S4 I9500 + 32GB SDcard to the 16GB 5X (take the 80$ rebate in NF)
Do I consider it an upgrade? Yes, definitely: More fluid, zero lag, Android 6.0.1 (+ Android 6.5 or 7.0 next Year), better battery optimizations, 4G LTE, Ambient Display (well, ocasionally), MAGNIFIC fingerprint sensor, easy to root/unroot, bye bye TouchWiz!
Will i miss the SD-slot? YES. 10 GB is not practical for store my MP3 Collection!
Will i miss the removable battery? yes, because I will have to resell my 5X in 1/2 years. With S4, a extra battery is only 8-15 $.
What I don't like from 5x?
- Poor speakerphone (very POOR) .
- MicroSD Slot, or 64 GB option
- USB-c port (I have to buy a USB-c to USB-a cable)
- Don't have earphones
- Poor devs support (for custom roms, Nexus 6P is more supported)

EeZeEpEe said:
It's an upgrade even coming from my S5.
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Yes, after just a day with it I can see this is true.
Display: Its great, no complaints whatsoever here, and coming from an amoled. The 5X colors do pop, just not quite in the radioactive way of galaxy amoleds. Colors are probably more accurate than an oversaturated amoled anyway, and I have an xrite calibrator eye if I want to mess with calibration.
OS: great, reminds me of my 2013 Nexus 7. No touchwiz, webpages load much quicker in chrome or firefox compared to S4. Nice to be back to stock android and know I can root easily if I want to. No problems popping in an activated cut down verizon sim either. Yet.
Fingerprint reader is awesome and a must for me on any mobile device going forward.
Performance seems just as snappy as the S6 floor models ive played with.
Got 1230 to 1290 single core and 3550 multi core geekbench 3. No noticeable lag yet. What sold me on the 5X other than xda was the youtubes where the guy opens a bunch of apps side by side on a 6P and 5X, there is one with a 5X vs S6 too, and the 5X does juuuust fine next to those.
Great phone, and at $330 i dont feel as cheated about non swappable battery as I would if I'd dropped $600 on a "flagship."
Oh and coming from an S4 i have no idea why reviews say the 5X doesnt feel "premium" or feels cheap. Anything but. The design is stylish and minimalist, and a case is going on anyway, but even without a case there is nothing wrong whatsoever with the industrial design and materials of this phone.
I do like the aluminum on my XPS 13 laptop, but whatever apple fanboy started the trend of 99% of tech reviewers saying every device that isn't 100% glass and metal feels "cheap" is nuts.

Yes it is a massive upgrade over the S4 which I still have one. In every way possible. The display on the S4 by today's standards is poor. The build quality is much better on the 5X.

joelbnyc said:
Yes, after just a day with it I can see this is true.
Display: Its great, no complaints whatsoever here, and coming from an amoled. The 5X colors do pop, just not quite in the radioactive way of galaxy amoleds. Colors are probably more accurate than an oversaturated amoled anyway, and I have an xrite calibrator eye if I want to mess with calibration.
OS: great, reminds me of my 2013 Nexus 7. No touchwiz, webpages load much quicker in chrome or firefox compared to S4. Nice to be back to stock android and know I can root easily if I want to. No problems popping in an activated cut down verizon sim either. Yet.
Fingerprint reader is awesome and a must for me on any mobile device going forward.
Performance seems just as snappy as the S6 floor models ive played with.
Got 1230 to 1290 single core and 3550 multi core geekbench 3. No noticeable lag yet. What sold me on the 5X other than xda was the youtubes where the guy opens a bunch of apps side by side on a 6P and 5X, there is one with a 5X vs S6 too, and the 5X does juuuust fine next to those.
Great phone, and at $330 i dont feel as cheated about non swappable battery as I would if I'd dropped $600 on a "flagship."
Oh and coming from an S4 i have no idea why reviews say the 5X doesnt feel "premium" or feels cheap. Anything but. The design is stylish and minimalist, and a case is going on anyway, but even without a case there is nothing wrong whatsoever with the industrial design and materials of this phone.
I do like the aluminum on my XPS 13 laptop, but whatever apple fanboy started the trend of 99% of tech reviewers saying every device that isn't 100% glass and metal feels "cheap" is nuts.
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God damn sir, well said. The phrasing at the end had me laughing lol. Good review from a more objective point of view opposed to the trolls lately.

jbdan said:
Yes it is a massive upgrade over the S4 which I still have one. In every way possible. The display on the S4 by today's standards is poor. The build quality is much better on the 5X.
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It's been only a couple days, but I'd probably pick the 5X over the Galaxy S6 so far, from what I've seen in stores. Especially if price is at all a factor, and maybe even if it isn't. My 5X is perfectly smooth, just the experience I was looking for. 1080P and stock android makes it perform better than QHD phones with bloatware.

I came from an S5 and I think it's a massive upgrade. I couldn't be happier with my purchase, personally.
The biggest things for me so far has been 1) Wireless ac (speeds are phenominal) and 2) no lag at all. I went through 2 S5's and both were laggy at times. I'm yet to see any of that with the 5x and I put it through its paces.
I think the camera output is much better, button layout is great (I had issues with accidentally hitting volume or power with S5's on both sides), and fingerprint reader is amazing.
I switched from Verizon to Project Fi last week also. Couldn't be happier with that as well. Going to cut my bill in half.
Luckily I haven't seemed to have any of the issues other are having here on the forums.

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The 5X colors do pop, just not quite in the radioactive way of galaxy amoleds.
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LOL radioactive is a pretty good description. So not natural looking when I compared with the S5 side by side.
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UnderXP said:
What I don't like from 5x?
- Poor devs support (for custom roms, Nexus 6P is more supported)
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This is not necessarily the truth. There are plenty of ROMs and kernels for Bullhead. Some teams, like mine, just do not release until everything is tip-top.

I have the 16gb tmoblie variant S4 w a 64 gb card, which still has 30 gb free so I really didn't need 64gb after all, the 32 I had was sufficient. It just leads to hoarding too much crap on my phone. I have almost 100 albums on it I barely listen to for example, and TB backups from 4 years ago of **** that isn't even in the play store anymore lmao...
I got the 32gb from the Google store because 16gb is an insult and should be illegal in 2015. Even if you don't have 1gb+ games it gets eaten up fast.
The one thing I love the most about switching is not having to fight with that damn internal memory card partition anymore. What the actual **** was that about anyway? Thank god for Link2SD...
The camera is a bazillion times better, and the FULL camera2 api is the icing on the cake.
I will say that I beat the absolute hell out of that S4 and the screen never broke. It looks like the dog chewed the edges but that's it. Time will tell if the 5X can withstand my butterfingers as well!

Another note, I installed Fleksy keyboard and added the number row so the on screen keyboard resembles what im used to with Galaxy S series, i dont like having to long hold or hit the 123 key to get to numbers.
Fleksy seems to use more ram than it needs though, so i might look for other options. Google keyboard with the PC layout and number row makes the keys too tiny.
Google should just add an option to include a number row in the stock keyboard.

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Another note, I installed Fleksy keyboard and added the number row so the on screen keyboard resembles what im used to with Galaxy S series, i dont like having to long hold or hit the 123 key to get to numbers.
Fleksy seems to use more ram than it needs though, so i might look for other options. Google keyboard with the PC layout and number row makes the keys too tiny.
Google should just add an option to include a number row in the stock keyboard.
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SwiftKey does a number row.
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Xperia L1 is a phenomenal device and you should buy it

Ok, I have got myself an L1 - didnt have money for a premium device as I always tend to buy top phone, so I went with the reviews to buy a budget phone with a big screen and not a single review was in favor of L1
That is completely shi*. As soon as I entered the store, I realized L1 is 3x better than other similar phones. The biggest problem reviews are saying with L1 is that it doesnt have fingerprint sensor, compared to Motorola G5 and other similar price-range phones, completely disregarding the fact that this phone is miles, years and eons in front of all other manufacturers when it comes to design and quality. Something HTC had back in the day, premium build quality
First of all - If finger print sensor is so god-damn important than you are a girl with nude selfies. I had several Huawei devices with best finger-print make and not once did I activate that stuff, I dont even lock my phone so I dont get what the big fuss is
L1 >
- superb screen. (who ever says they see individual pixels at 267 PPI should get punched in the face)
- Better camera quality compared to ANY mid-range price device.
- Phenomenal build you would find in only premium phones, excluding the slightly thicker body.
- one of the best plastic finishes on plastic-body phones, ever
- guaranteed harder body than 99.9% phones ever made (if there is one phone you will hope survived 3 floors fall, it's this one)
- has Mediatek MT6737T which is really OK chipset, slightly slower CPU than Snapdragon 801, sligthly stronger GPU (snapdragon 801 is stronger than J7 2017 exynos SoC, for example)
- Sony has really tried on this one, to tone down the big chin-forehead bezel on it's design (74% screen to body ratio)
- exactly due to 720p and MTK chipset, 2620 Maph battery holds really really good, charges fast even though stock charger is 1A (I didnt even try the quick charge with 2A)
- a really simple solution to make phone not-slippery: make plastic rough but somehow matte so it looks great
- USB C on such a device, looking forward
Downsides:
- no earbuds ? seriously Sony ? you are the earbud people, japanese people, and you dont putt even those stock-shi* earphones ?
- no screen protector out-of-the-box, just that lame transparent thin shi* that falls off immediately
- my device needs force to plug-in USB-C, nothing big but noticeable
- poor choice of accessories compared to beaten-to-death HTC who makes those fancy cover-thingies with holes n' shi* even for budget phones , you need to up your game Sony
In my opinion, in this price range, there is no better device than L1. I dont care about fingerprint, my points of interest are phenomenal big screen, sturdy and quality build and lack of stupid design stuff on the phone you are surely gonna damage (like those frames with thin lines and glossy finish on Samsungs you are destined to chip, break, or damage) - this phone is great and you should buy it

Samsung stereo headset works 100%.
You can use screen protector for LG G4 even it looks weird.
I prefer type C because it has OTG support out of the box.
Other than the case, I can use all accessories on hand with no problem.

i got earbuds with mine, they are not great but not terrible but it hurts ears if you use it for a while.

My issue with the L1 is that too many apps wont transfer to my SD and of the ones that do there a too many that wont update while they're on the SD

Hay I'm planning to buy this phone
What can you tell me about speakers?
Is voice noisy or disorted?
Can you post some photos of your cameras?
Thank you

This device uses MEDIATEK chip. Can we use MTK Tool with it?

Igoritza said:
- superb screen. (who ever says they see individual pixels at 267 PPI should get punched in the face)
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Thanks for that you just made my day :laugh: :laugh:
I 100% Agree :good:
The entire Range of Sony/MediaTek devices M5, C4, C5, XA, XA1, L1, E5 and variants of are/were Awesome value for money and If I had the cash I would buy them all !!
Build quality is fantastic through out the range and you get Sony aftercare at the price of a obscure china import phone It's a no brainer to me.
The mediatek naysayer's/haters here on xda are usually noob's who never built anything ever and read old topics from ten years ago then spout the same old garbage (so annoying )
Igoritza said:
this phone is great and you should buy it
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Along with the XA XA1 they're a steal too :good:
Just looking at the L1 now Manufacturer Refurbished with 12 months Warranty "A1" condition and Sim Free £69
Similar deals on the XA and XA1 too but I really want the XA1 Ultra

Vernee X 4Gb/64Gb Mediatek P23

So, I wanted to put a word in for Vernee, and specifically for this phone.
I looked around for a forum and didn't find one.
This is a wonderful budget phone, absolutely. A sleeper.
At $180 roughly, it's fantastic.
Everything about it IS a step down from Flagship but the package it delivers punches well above it's class.
This is just a set of observations to help those thinking about digging around the lower priced Chinese offerings.
I'll try and give a comparative review.
The phone is just a few millimeters taller than the OnePlus 5T, a few shorter than the Galaxy 8+ and roughly the same width as the HTC U11.
The screen is 18:9 and tinted in such a way that the screen appears to take up the entire front surface before you fire it up.
Although I have seen reviews that say it is a metal phone, it is not. The back is a very solid form of plastic, treated and painted to look like metal.
Don't get me wrong; it's not a bad look at all. The deep blue looks radiant in the sunlight and the soft texture of it feels wonderful in the hand.
The phone is as heavy as the Mate 9 but feels perfectly weighted. It really feels great to hold and they've curved the back in such a way that it feels far slimmer than it is - which at 9.8mm, it is not.
When you turn the screen on, you notice that Vernee has done a great job with slimming the bezels, and the glass, though not Gorilla glass has a nice, slick feel to it.
It's built to a very high standard; compelling when you think they just begun to make phones in 2016.
The P23 mediatek chip is perfectly adequate for everyday use - I'd say think Qualcomm 820/821 (Lg G4).
There are a few stutters and it's not as fluid as say the OnePlus 5T but it IS quick and the management of it's 4Gbs of ROM keeps lots of apps on tap.
And now, the killer. They've stuffed a huge battery in there. They say it's a 6000 but My Device reads it at 4000.
Any which way, the battery is a revelation. On, and on, and on - It will easily give you 2 days of normal use, all in a relatively tight package - but I'm not like that. I am on it ALL DAY doing everything, with everything on from 08:00 and still, as I come to charge at 23:00 there's 15% in it.
Astonishing.
And I think that's where this phone hits its home run.
It looks good, it feels good, it runs well - you'd be hard pressed to be embarrassed laying it on the table beside the absolute big guns - and you could have five of them for the price.
It's an Astonishing feat.
Think 4 by 4 Beemer or Merc in the bush against the original Toyota Prado.
But unlike a bear-bones interior, you have leather seats, good stereo, manual sun-roof and proper differentials.
You know what I'm talking about.
The Vernee X is not rugged but it's handsome, sure footed, tireless and a joy to carry around.
It will take you dancing all night long, and that, at least, in Miyake.
Yes. There is a catch. The camera.
It's not bad but you'll want great light all the time. And don't try that blurred shallow focus thing, it's not good.
Still there pictures are adequate sometimes and very good at other.
This phone has climbed into my pocket and the company, won my heart and I can't wait to see what Vernee has for us this year and next.
The Doogees, Elephones...are on notice.
So are, in another few years I think, Samsung et.al.

Still no one ROM for this model... Someone from the owners of this unit, could you make a full backup of the firmware and put it in the public domain.

room for vernee x 4gb ram / 64gb
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Dyxless1986 said:
Still no one ROM for this model... Someone from the owners of this unit, could you make a full backup of the firmware and put it in the public domain.
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some roms here. Ive not tested but some activity it seems
https://www.needrom.com/category/others/u-v-w-x-y-z/brands-v/vernee/x/

kolembo said:
So, I wanted to put a word in for Vernee, and specifically for this phone.
I looked around for a forum and didn't find one.
This is a wonderful budget phone, absolutely. A sleeper.
At $180 roughly, it's fantastic.
Everything about it IS a step down from Flagship but the package it delivers punches well above it's class.
This is just a set of observations to help those thinking about digging around the lower priced Chinese offerings.
I'll try and give a comparative review.
The phone is just a few millimeters taller than the OnePlus 5T, a few shorter than the Galaxy 8+ and roughly the same width as the HTC U11.
The screen is 18:9 and tinted in such a way that the screen appears to take up the entire front surface before you fire it up.
Although I have seen reviews that say it is a metal phone, it is not. The back is a very solid form of plastic, treated and painted to look like metal.
Don't get me wrong; it's not a bad look at all. The deep blue looks radiant in the sunlight and the soft texture of it feels wonderful in the hand.
The phone is as heavy as the Mate 9 but feels perfectly weighted. It really feels great to hold and they've curved the back in such a way that it feels far slimmer than it is - which at 9.8mm, it is not.
When you turn the screen on, you notice that Vernee has done a great job with slimming the bezels, and the glass, though not Gorilla glass has a nice, slick feel to it.
It's built to a very high standard; compelling when you think they just begun to make phones in 2016.
The P23 mediatek chip is perfectly adequate for everyday use - I'd say think Qualcomm 820/821 (Lg G4).
There are a few stutters and it's not as fluid as say the OnePlus 5T but it IS quick and the management of it's 4Gbs of ROM keeps lots of apps on tap.
And now, the killer. They've stuffed a huge battery in there. They say it's a 6000 but My Device reads it at 4000.
Any which way, the battery is a revelation. On, and on, and on - It will easily give you 2 days of normal use, all in a relatively tight package - but I'm not like that. I am on it ALL DAY doing everything, with everything on from 08:00 and still, as I come to charge at 23:00 there's 15% in it.
Astonishing.
And I think that's where this phone hits its home run.
It looks good, it feels good, it runs well - you'd be hard pressed to be embarrassed laying it on the table beside the absolute big guns - and you could have five of them for the price.
It's an Astonishing feat.
Think 4 by 4 Beemer or Merc in the bush against the original Toyota Prado.
But unlike a bear-bones interior, you have leather seats, good stereo, manual sun-roof and proper differentials.
You know what I'm talking about.
The Vernee X is not rugged but it's handsome, sure footed, tireless and a joy to carry around.
It will take you dancing all night long, and that, at least, in Miyake.
Yes. There is a catch. The camera.
It's not bad but you'll want great light all the time. And don't try that blurred shallow focus thing, it's not good.
Still there pictures are adequate sometimes and very good at other.
This phone has climbed into my pocket and the company, won my heart and I can't wait to see what Vernee has for us this year and next.
The Doogees, Elephones...are on notice.
So are, in another few years I think, Samsung et.al.
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Im having same phone, camera is useless much better choice is ulefone power 3 or 3s, they have same hardware with much better camera.
I think vernee have problem with drivers, i have tryed to fix it but im not developer if you have any idea for new firmware or update for this camera problem please let me know.
Regards
Dino

After using the phone for a couple of months;
It is slow. The mediatek chip is nowhere near flagship level and it shows.
And the camera is badly optimised - the photos are ok in very good light.
The best thing about this phone is it's amusing battery life.
The screen is also, surprisingly, very good.
In all other respects you must be willing to compromise.

I just got this phone and for the price, you cant beat it. But you are right the chipset is not as good as the snapdragon and thats the major difference here. I dont use the camera so it doesnt bother me.
But great value nevertheless.

kolembo said:
After using the phone for a couple of months;
It is slow. The mediatek chip is nowhere near flagship level and it shows.
And the camera is badly optimised - the photos are ok in very good light.
The best thing about this phone is it's amusing battery life.
The screen is also, surprisingly, very good.
In all other respects you must be willing to compromise.
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Ulefone Power 3 or 3s has better camera optimisation, hardware is the same, so it is better choice in my opinion...

Yes, I think Verne is still too young to optimise Android for it's phones.
It's hardware is very good though - the X is very strong, has a beautiful screen and an unbeatable battery.
It has to do more work getting it's software lined up to it's hardware.

Having used this phone for a year, it's biggest problem is software.
The phone feels sluggish and jittery.
The battery remains excellent. On experimentation, the speed increases vastly when I switch: settings>duraspeed>off

with disable animation to 0 in devolper settings also same lag ?
regards

i will try aslo root the phone later when i have my order , presumably same way as my thread Root vernee M5 page 7
Regards

US version heavier than advertised

Just got the US version, 64GB capacity... A warning to everyone that the phone is not 190g (6.7oz) as advertised on their website. I weighed it and it's actually 205g = 7.23oz (without sd card and without sim card).
I would never have thought to weigh the phone except that I noticed the phone being noticeably heavier (and more tiring to hold) compared to my Pixel 2 XL (at 175g). Before weighing it, I just couldn't believe that a supposed 15g (0.53oz) difference would be this noticeable -- so I weighed it to be sure.
I'm still deciding whether to keep it. I also haven't rooted it yet because I want to use it for a month or so to make sure there are no hardware issues where I may need to get a replacement.
UPDATE: The false advertisement is even worse. On the US Asus Store site where I purchased the phone, it's advertising the weight as 0.4lbs = 181grams, even less than the 190grams advertised on their general tech specs page.

Not only US version, but EU version too...
I weighed:
200.2g phone with one SIM card
216.8g phone with one SIM card and this silicone case https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/32891428136.html
16.6g silicone case itself

Oh wow, not just the US version.
I'm trying to figure out why ~1oz extra feels so much heavier (and tiring to hold).... maybe the small increase in thickness and the change in weight distribution is making it more tiring to hold?
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Not only US version, but EU version too...
I weighed:
200.2g phone with one SIM card
216.8g phone with one SIM card and this silicone case https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/32891428136.html
16.6g silicone case itself
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even worse
Just found out that the false advertisement is even worse.
On the US Asus Store site where I purchased the phone, it's advertising the weight as 0.4lbs = 181grams, even less than the 190grams advertised on their general tech specs page.

Hmmm, doesn't glass make phones heavier? Asus has a gorilla glass 3 on the back and gorilla glass 6 on the front. (in addition to 5k mah battery). That contributes to the weigh of it. If the back was only plastic or even aluminum, it might be lighter. But i take the main OP point. Specs should be on point and not off from customers tests. (like weight). They should have advertised the original weight rather than making it look more appealing by reducing it on the specs lol.
PS: (I personally don't care much about weight since, well, I spend the entire day dealing with heavy objects and the phone should feel like a feather to me (if i ever end up buying it). Also I have never though about buying or not buying a phone basing my decision on the "weight" factor.) LOL
Aside from the weighting, @neo_lithic3K , have you experience any technical issues? Please do create a thread regarding that if you do find some. Thank you!

Yeah, I'd imagine glass and bigger battery would make it heavier. I agree that the weight isn't normally a major factor in my decisions. The only reason I noticed it is because, before buying, I was comparing dimensions of the Pixel 2 XL vs Zenfone 6 to make sure it's not too big... and I also happened to see the weight as well (and thought... ok 15g isn't much heavier).
I'm hoping that I'll get used to the increased weight.. but I think a difference between 'dealing with heavy objects' all day and holding a smartphone is that the way I hold my phone isn't the same I would hold/carry, eg, a hammer or a UPS package. With a smartphone, it's more in the fingers.... a bit of a delicate balance between having a firm grip but not dropping it and not accidentally touching the screen at wrong place. The phone is also thicker so I have to stretch and extend my finger muscles just a tad bit more to hold it firmly.
No other technical issues but I did notice some technical differences. I did notice decreased brightness when looking at the phone from a 45 degree angle compared to my Pixel 2 XL which was noticeably brighter. Not a dealbreaker of course. I also notice that the vibration seems weaker compared to the Pixel 2 XL to the point where I cant feel it in my jeans pocket, even with vibration on max.
jinkerz9430 said:
Hmmm, doesn't glass make phones heavier? Asus has a gorilla glass 3 on the back and gorilla glass 6 on the front. (in addition to 5k mah battery). That contributes to the weigh of it. If the back was only plastic or even aluminum, it might be lighter. But i take the main OP point. Specs should be on point and not off from customers tests. (like weight). They should have advertised the original weight rather than making it look more appealing by reducing it on the specs lol.
PS: (I personally don't care much about weight since, well, I spend the entire day dealing with heavy objects and the phone should feel like a feather to me (if i ever end up buying it). Also I have never though about buying or not buying a phone because basing my decision on the "weight" factor.) LOL
Aside from the weighting, @neo_lithic3K , have you experience any technical issues? Please do create a thread regarding that if you do find some. Thank you!
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neo_lithic3K said:
No other technical issues but I did notice some technical differences. I did notice decreased brightness when looking at the phone from a 45-degree angle compared to my Pixel 2 XL which was noticeably brighter. Not a dealbreaker of course. I also notice that the vibration seems weaker compared to the Pixel 2 XL to the point where I cant feel it in my jeans pocket, even with vibration on max.
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That's the downside of OLED screens vs IPS screens. IPS screens in some occasions are crispier than OLED screens. But certain angles do affect the overall brightness and visibility on IPS screens if compared with OLED, (in pixel 2 xl situation P.OLED). If there were only a way to create a screen with both worlds (a screen that wouldn't get a permanent burnt image and get crispy images and infinite contrast ration under normal circumstances, and high contrast ration under sunlight) boi that screen would be a beast!
hmmm vibration weaker. I wonder if we could change the vibration motor :3 . I feel like buying a broken zenfone 6 just to experiment with that. LOL

LOL that would be interesting... changing the motor out for a better one. Wishful thinking of course... but I was also wondering myself if it's possible to swap out the battery for a slightly lower capacity one. I'm never far from an outlet so I wouldn't mind getting a lower capacity battery if it makes the phone lighter....
LOL maybe in 10-20 years... technology would get to the point where we could get a screen with all those positives.
jinkerz9430 said:
That's the downside of OLED screens vs IPS screens. IPS screens in some occasions are crispier than OLED screens. But certain angles do affect the overall brightness and visibility on IPS screens if compared with OLED, (in pixel 2 xl situation P.OLED). If there were only a way to create a screen with both worlds (a screen that wouldn't get a permanent burnt image and get crispy images and infinite contrast ration under normal circumstances, and high contrast ration under sunlight) boi that screen would be a beast!
hmmm vibration weaker. I wonder if we could change the vibration motor :3 . I feel like buying a broken zenfone 6 just to experiment with that. LOL
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