Continuation of the discussion between kravmangoon and JanDK found starting here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...tkat-head-unit-newsmy-carpad-t2865525/page753
ahhh, thx for this info too. My guess is that this one could power up the amp, but don't know which one to connect it to.....( wish I could post pics ).
I'm assuming all you need is this to get the amp running.
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Look for an open switch on the original stereo diagram. Pin 13 might be the wire you're looking for but I'm sort of guessing without seeing the pinout diagram.
There's a green connector in the Quadlock, three wires are going to it, and according to the diagram on the OEM HU, there's a yellow=LO-RR , a green=LO-RL , and a purple=LINE(ground symbol). Guess it these you want me to connect the spliced RCAs to, right?
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That sounds right to me. Line Out Rear Right(+), Line Out Rear Left(+), and a common ground (-) between the RCAs.
kravmangoon said:
Look for an open switch on the original stereo diagram. Pin 13 might be the wire you're looking for but I'm sort of guessing without seeing the pinout diagram.you're absolutely right, pin 13 is an open switch according the diagram on my OEM HU
That sounds right to me. Line Out Rear Right(+), Line Out Rear Left(+), and a common ground (-) between the RCAs.
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I'll try to see if I can find a couple of RCA cables tomorrow, and give it a try
I just read in another forum, that the volume in the rear speakers will be lower than in the front speakers - I hope not, and if, I hope it wil be possible to adjust it with viper4android ( once I've moded the HU)
Thx for making this thread, makes sense, and not disturbing for others
I'll be back
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I'll try to see if I can find a couple of RCA cables tomorrow, and give it a try
I just read in another forum, that the volume in the rear speakers will be lower than in the front speakers - I hope not, and if, I hope it wil be possible to adjust it with viper4android ( once I've moded the HU)
Thx for making this thread, makes sense, and not disturbing for others
I'll be back
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I wouldn't worry, there are a couple solutions:
-You can look into a line driver like this to bump up the RCA volume to match volumes more appropriately: http://www.amazon.com/Peripheral-PAC-LD10-Driver-Booster/dp/B003LWV77Y
-There's a built in app for balancing/fading. You should probably try to figure out if the RCA outputs correspond to the front or rear speakers (using the built in fader app, fade all the way front and all the way back to test; see which direction keeps the RCAs going). If the RCAs correspond to the front speakers (more than likely), than use the rear speaker/high-level outputs from the NU3001 to power the front speakers.
This will allow you to use the fader app (fading will just have the opposite affect as your fronts and rears are reversed).
Then you use Viper4android (turn on convolver --> Select something like Studer +6db IRS file). This would boost your overall volume once your speakers are appropriately matched/faded.
kravmangoon said:
I wouldn't worry, there are a couple solutions:
-You can look into a line driver like this to bump up the RCA volume to match volumes more appropriately: http://www.amazon.com/Peripheral-PAC-LD10-Driver-Booster/dp/B003LWV77Y
-There's a built in app for balancing/fading. You should probably try to figure out if the RCA outputs correspond to the front or rear speakers (using the built in fader app, fade all the way front and all the way back to test; see which direction keeps the RCAs going). If the RCAs correspond to the front speakers (more than likely), than use the rear speaker/high-level outputs from the NU3001 to power the front speakers.
This will allow you to use the fader app (fading will just have the opposite affect as your fronts and rears are reversed).
Then you use Viper4android (turn on convolver --> Select something like Studer +6db IRS file). This would boost your overall volume once your speakers are appropriately matched/faded.
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It's up and running all 4 speakers, yeeehaaaa, :good:
No fader control in the factory version, so
Next step is to mod the HU, I'm sure I'll have questions regarding this too:silly:
Thx for your support
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No fader control in the factory version, so
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It's in there, it's a separate app. I used 1.2.9 and 1.3.0 before switching to xDAuto.
I think it's called something like Sound Balance.
Thx for your support
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Not a problem, glad I can help.
SD card mcu update
Hi, I'm back/ what format should I use to format the SD card for mcu update, fat32/Exfat/ms-dos fat ?
I've tried with Exfat and ms-dos fat, but the HU doesn't recognize any update on the card. I did excactly as described in the wiki Extract the files burn_mcu.hex and updatemcu.bin to the root of a SD card
This must be an external SD card, this will not work if placed on the internal SD or USB
Have to admit I not an android user,but an Appel user, a bit different....
JanDK said:
Hi, I'm back/ what format should I use to format the SD card for mcu update, fat32/Exfat/ms-dos fat ?
I've tried with Exfat and ms-dos fat, but the HU doesn't recognize any update on the card. I did excactly as described in the wiki Extract the files burn_mcu.hex and updatemcu.bin to the root of a SD card
This must be an external SD card, this will not work if placed on the internal SD or USB
Have to admit I not an android user,but an Appel user, a bit different....
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I'm assuming you can see the external card in ESFileExplorer or in Settings-->Storage? It would be called External_sd or something like that.
After you're sure it's detected, all I needed to do was run the update in the MCU app ("Update Settings").
EDIT: I believe I used FAT32 for my SD card. Might be able to use NTFS.
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I'm assuming you can see the external card in ESFileExplorer or in Settings-->Storage? It would be called External_sd or something like that.
After you're sure it's detected, all I needed to do was run the update in the MCU app ("Update Settings").
EDIT: I believe I used FAT32 for my SD card. Might be able to use NTFS.
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Hi, yes I'm able to see it in ESfileexplorer, but once I hit the mcu update button, it says no update file found.....
I'll try to format in the formats you mention.
How does your radio perform? / even though I've attached an amplifier to my OEM Audi FM antenna, it's only, poorly, able to receive local stations....Disappointing...
Kindly
Jan
Kind regards
JanDK said:
Hi, yes I'm able to see it in ESfileexplorer, but once I hit the mcu update button, it says no update file found.....
I'll try to format in the formats you mention.
How does your radio perform? / even though I've attached an amplifier to my OEM Audi FM antenna, it's only, poorly, able to receive local stations....Disappointing...
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Jan
Kind regards
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Radio is iffy. Initially it was awful because I forgot to power the antenna with the blue lead coming off the harness (this is my first vehicle with a powered shark fin antenna). Once I connected it I was able to receive FM stations but I still don't think the reception is great. I ordered this and it actually arrived today, probably similar to what you bought. I'll let you know how it sounds after I install it.
Also, I can't get the AM radio to do much of anything. I don't know if this is uncommon: in the US, AM stations are every 10kHz. This unit doesn't even let you browse to those stations, I have to manually input a favorite station in order to enter a frequency ending in a "0". Even with the correct frequency tuned, I am not receiving anything.
I was always under the impression that radio manufacturers use a coil within the stereo to receive AM radio (as opposed to trying to have an antenna that receives a 300m wavelength signal). The fact that I'm not getting any AM stations makes me wonder if the coil in the unit is defective (or whether the coil even exists).
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Radio is iffy. Initially it was awful because I forgot to power the antenna with the blue lead coming off the harness (this is my first vehicle with a powered shark fin antenna). Once I connected it I was able to receive FM stations but I still don't think the reception is great. I ordered this and it actually arrived today, probably similar to what you bought. I'll let you know how it sounds after I install it.
Also, I can't get the AM radio to do much of anything. I don't know if this is uncommon: in the US, AM stations are every 10kHz. This unit doesn't even let you browse to those stations, I have to manually input a favorite station in order to enter a frequency ending in a "0". Even with the correct frequency tuned, I am not receiving anything.
I was always under the impression that radio manufacturers use a coil within the stereo to receive AM radio (as opposed to trying to have an antenna that receives a 300m wavelength signal). The fact that I'm not getting any AM stations makes me wonder if the coil in the unit is defective (or whether the coil even exists).
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Hi?/ well,I've also supplied the aerial amplifier( all most like the one you ordered) with +12V, but it's just really really poor?/ think I'll go for the radio apps, perhaps TuneIn radio Pro, the one I uses on my iOS devices.
I managed to update the mcu( formatted the sd card in fat 32), only thing is, I think,it says version 1.1.7 or something like that, when I look in the mcu update menu, shouldn't it say something with ...30?
Excited to hear how your radio performs once you've installed the aerial amplifier.
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Hi/ well,I've also supplied the aerial amplifier( all most like the one you ordered) with +12V, but it's just really really poor/ think I'll go for the radio apps, perhaps TuneIn radio Pro, the one I uses on my iOS devices.
I managed to update the mcu( formatted the sd card in fat 32), only thing is, I think,it says version 1.1.7 or something like that, when I look in the mcu update menu, shouldn't it say something with ...30?
Excited to hear how your radio performs once you've installed the aerial amplifier.
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Sorry, crazy hectic work week. I will see if I can get you a picture of what mine looks like.
1.1.8 sounds like the software version you have installed. I'm assuming you're running the stock software? If yes, I'd recommend at least trying xDAuto.
I switched to xDAuto (MCU v41) after messing around with stock software (1.2.9, 1.3.0 and MCU v47 and v48) and have found it to be a lot more reliable.
All that work, takes too much of our spare time [emoji23]
Where do you download your firmware and mcu update isn't it in here
http://xfer.aokp.co/?developer=zaphod&folder=nu3001/MCU ?
Where excactly do I look up for the firmware version and the mcu version, is it in about this device or in update settings?? / sorry for the noob quest. .....
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Jan
JanDK said:
All that work, takes too much of our spare time [emoji23]
Where do you download your firmware and mcu update isn't it in here
http://xfer.aokp.co/?developer=zaphod&folder=nu3001/MCU ?
Where excactly do I look up for the firmware version and the mcu version, is it in about this device or in update settings?? / sorry for the noob quest. .....
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Jan
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It's in the Update Settings menu.
That's the right website. Only thing is that I needed to flash a custom recovery to use the image zip file (xdAuto-1.1.6c2.zip, see the wiki for Clockwork and TWRP instructions)
Found it, thx. It seems I'm running mcu v48, and firmware 1.1.7
Kindly
Jan
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Hi[emoji4]/ well,I've also supplied the aerial amplifier( all most like the one you ordered) with +12V, but it's just really really poor[emoji51]/ think I'll go for the radio apps, perhaps TuneIn radio Pro, the one I uses on my iOS devices.
I managed to update the mcu( formatted the sd card in fat 32), only thing is, I think,it says version 1.1.7 or something like that, when I look in the mcu update menu, shouldn't it say something with ...30?
Excited to hear how your radio performs once you've installed the aerial amplifier.
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Well, guess what, I just fixed my poor radio, I dismantled the double fakra plug on the antenna amplifier, and switched the two antenna cables, and voila, IT WORKS,perfectly [emoji108][emoji122][emoji4]
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Jan
What method did you use to install Xdauto, SD card or Pc? If Pc method, Did you only connect the android box to Pc, or did you connect a laptop in the car?
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Jan
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What method did you use to install Xdauto, SD card or Pc? If Pc method, Did you only connect the android box to Pc, or did you connect a laptop in the car?
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Jan
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I brought it in the house and set it up via my PC. Had the HDMI cord plugged into a TV and used a USB keyboard/mouse combo to interact.
I copied the xDauto zip to the SDcard and then installed the zip using a custom recovery (need to check out the wiki for that). 1.1.6c2 (most recent version I see) only comes as a zip so I think you have to flash it via a custom recovery.
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Well, guess what, I just fixed my poor radio, I dismantled the double fakra plug on the antenna amplifier, and switched the two antenna cables, and voila, IT WORKS,perfectly [emoji108][emoji122][emoji4]
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Jan
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Nice, I plan to install the antenna amp in an hour or two.
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Has anyone used one of these devices - ebay item 330270408584
How well does it work with a PPC ?
I would take a punt and get one, but apparently I will need adaptors to connect to my car (audi) which bumps the price to £61 !!!
In view of that, I want to know if the sound is crystal clear, connects automatically etc
XCarLink?
hays said:
Has anyone used one of these devices - ebay item 330270408584
How well does it work with a PPC ?
I would take a punt and get one, but apparently I will need adaptors to connect to my car (audi) which bumps the price to £61 !!!
In view of that, I want to know if the sound is crystal clear, connects automatically etc
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I have been looking at these on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160283183151
£75 and you get an MP3 player that interfaces to a standard Audi head-unit (see the list) and emulates a 2nd CD-Changer. It also has a BlueTooth adapter that allows you to stream audio from your phone to it (A2DP?) as well as apparently acting as a hands-free car-kit.
I use TomTom Navigator on my HTC Kaiser and would like to know about how functional it is when used in this combination - i.e. Use Media Player or Audio Manager on the PDA to play music whilst running TomTom and also use it as a hands-free kit for the phone. I have verified that using the internal speaker you can play music and also use TomTom and the the instructions are just played over the music. I just don't want to get one and find out its cr4p.
I have asked the question on a couple of forums but not had any good responses yet. I have a 20% off voucher for eBay (as long as PayPal is used) so I can get £15 off the £75 which brings it down to £60. However £60 is still £60 and if it's rubbish......
Andy
looks good
I've got an Audi too. Here are a few pics of my iO Play setup which supports the handsfree and headset profies (HSF/HSP) as well as the stereo music and remote control profiles (A2DP/AVCRP). In all honesty though, this was a custom (ie non plug and play) setup. So I did do some custom wiring to get this to work. I think though, if you have an older non-Bose Audi, this might be plug and play.
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IO play looks good but is gonna be about £150
I like the look of xcarlink but it doesn't say much about its bluetooth operation
I want to keep using S2P as my preferred MP3 software because the cover flow is superb
Therfore I dont want to reorganise my folders as xcarlink suggests, but if the bluetooth A2DP works, I shouldn't have too
Can you take a punt on the xcarlink as you have the 20% voucher
I'm sure if it didnt work out, you could resell on ebay for the purchase price as you bought it for less money
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I have been looking at these on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=160283183151
£75 and you get an MP3 player that interfaces to a standard Audi head-unit (see the list) and emulates a 2nd CD-Changer. It also has a BlueTooth adapter that allows you to stream audio from your phone to it (A2DP?) as well as apparently acting as a hands-free car-kit.
I use TomTom Navigator on my HTC Kaiser and would like to know about how functional it is when used in this combination - i.e. Use Media Player or Audio Manager on the PDA to play music whilst running TomTom and also use it as a hands-free kit for the phone. I have verified that using the internal speaker you can play music and also use TomTom and the the instructions are just played over the music. I just don't want to get one and find out its cr4p.
I have asked the question on a couple of forums but not had any good responses yet. I have a 20% off voucher for eBay (as long as PayPal is used) so I can get £15 off the £75 which brings it down to £60. However £60 is still £60 and if it's rubbish......
Andy
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I'm very tempted to try the xcarlink
Bluetooth Module?
As far as I can work out the Bluetooth module is an afterthought and is entirely external. The XCarLink doesn't actually have any Bluetooth intelligence as the module just plugs into the AUX port - like a 'dumb' MP3 player connected directly with a stereo jack plug (I assume there has been some minor modification to get power to the module though?).
I have been searching for a manual or installation guide and can't find anything useful. I am tempted to just get one with my 20% discount and see how it works - its still £60 though
If anyone has any experience with one of these or has any links I would be grateful.
Andy
bluetooth car audio
A good solution to hear your favorite songs and call your friends from your car ...
Clarion FB288/FB289 BT !!!
very simple : Radio, SD slot (2Go max), AUX in, and bluetooth A2DP...
installed last week...
Pompei1888 said:
A good solution to hear your favorite songs and call your friends from your car ...
Clarion FB288/FB289 BT !!!
very simple : Radio, SD slot (2Go max), AUX in, and bluetooth A2DP...
installed last week...
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I don't want the hassle of having to remove the front panel off a standard sized stereo evertime i leave the car
THe feedback for the xcarlink seems really good
If I had a 20% code, I would order now - any ideas where theses codes can be found
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As far as I can work out the Bluetooth module is an afterthought and is entirely external. The XCarLink doesn't actually have any Bluetooth intelligence as the module just plugs into the AUX port - like a 'dumb' MP3 player connected directly with a stereo jack plug (I assume there has been some minor modification to get power to the module though?).
Andy
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It does appear to be a different unit than the non bluetooth version. It looks like a mini usb socket for the bluetooth module, while the non BT version has a 3.5mm headphone input
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It does appear to be a different unit than the non bluetooth version. It looks like a mini usb socket for the bluetooth module, while the non BT version has a 3.5mm headphone input
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Yes, thats what I thought. If you look at the cables that get supplied with it there is a mini-USB to 3.5 stereo audio jack as well. I assume they have just used the extra pins in the mini-USB (if that's indeed what it is?) to power the BT module.
Still not sure whether to get it or not
Andy
If I get one I will be happy to post a full review with some decent pictures and you tube vid
I'll let you know how well it works
I'm biting the bullet and getting one
Stand by for a full review when it arrives
Hays
I use one of these and would never consider living without it. It works fantastic with S2P and most other software I have.
AJ
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I use one of these and would never consider living without it. It works fantastic with S2P and most other software I have.
AJ
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That looks good but suffers from the same issue (albeit opposite) as the XCarLink does emulating a CD Changer - i.e. if you are not listening to the radio (i.e. your BT kit) then you won't be notified that a call is coming in.
I have also bitten the bullet and ordered an XCarLink with BT, with my 20% discount I got it for £59.80 (unless customs hit me for any import duty....).
I'll post a review when I manage to get it fitted...
Andy
ADB100 said:
That looks good but suffers from the same issue (albeit opposite) as the XCarLink does emulating a CD Changer - i.e. if you are not listening to the radio (i.e. your BT kit) then you won't be notified that a call is coming in.
Andy
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On the other hand, if you are not listening to the radio via the BT kit, then you probably haven't got the phone currently paired with the device anyway, in which case you will be notified just like normal. Also, if you set the phone to vibrate you will always be notified that way regardless.
In my experience, this device doesn't "suffer" from anything.
AJ
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On the other hand, if you are not listening to the radio via the BT kit, then you probably haven't got the phone currently paired with the device anyway, in which case you will be notified just like normal. Also, if you set the phone to vibrate you will always be notified that way regardless.
In my experience, this device doesn't "suffer" from anything.
AJ
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OK, but with a 'proper' car kit interfaced with the Phone input on the head unit you would be notified regardless of what you were listening to. In my experience if Led Zeppelin or AC-DC gets played on the radio station I am listening to I immediateley up the volume which will drown out the phone ringer. With either the XCarLink or the Motorola BT device you use there will be no interuption which there would be with a regular car kit like a Parrot dur to the way it interfaces with the HU.
In Manchester (UK) we now have a classic Rock station (Rock 106.1) and Led Zepellin and AC-DC are on quite often....
Andy
All received and almost there
I have the sound working via the line in socket
I'm struggling to get it talking to my phone
I've plugged the bluetooth module into the xcarlink (nothing else connected)
I pressed the button on the bluetooth module. Some beeps came through the stereo and a partnership was set up, however no music or phone calls
Any ideas - think it's likely to be a feature of wm6 than a fault with the xcarlink
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All received and almost there
I have the sound working via the line in socket
I'm struggling to get it talking to my phone
I've plugged the bluetooth module into the xcarlink (nothing else connected)
I pressed the button on the bluetooth module. Some beeps came through the stereo and a partnership was set up, however no music or phone calls
Any ideas - think it's likely to be a feature of wm6 than a fault with the xcarlink
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I have to go to
Settings/Bluetooth then tap and hold the xcarlink device until the menu appears
Then select "set as wireless stereo"
Seems I have to do this each time. Which is a shame, but I know this is the XDA rather than the xcarlink. Does anyone know an automatic way ?
Perhaps a task for Mortscript - but that will be a whole learning curve
Acually, it may be the xcarlink that's your issue, I have some A2DP accessories that search for my phone as soon as they are turned on, and I have some that don't.
However, how is the xcarlink's A2DP sound quality? Do all AVCRP remote control commands work properly? Also, does it have any handsfree capabilities?
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Replying to my own post...
I have to go to
Settings/Bluetooth then tap and hold the xcarlink device until the menu appears
Then select "set as wireless stereo"
Seems I have to do this each time. Which is a shame, but I know this is the XDA rather than the xcarlink. Does anyone know an automatic way ?
Perhaps a task for Mortscript - but that will be a whole learning curve
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I have a MTCC-KLD6-V2.97 Android 5.1.1 800*480, with a december stock rom.
Since I've installed it, I always had a problem with the bluetooth: at the first start, if I do a search does not find any device and from my smartphone I can not find the unit.
After a completely shutdown (with car off) and restart, the bluetooth seem to work properly and i can connect my phone; the same thing happens after I went to the factory settings or when it boot with Android logo instead of the configured startup logo (It appears to be a fresh start after a unit reset, or similar): I have to turn off the car and wait for the complete switch-off time, otherwise I cannot have a Bluetooth connection with my phone.
The problem does't seem to be related to the Rom or MCU, I made several attempts, and the problem still persists.
I don't know if it can be linked, but when I tried a Malaysk 5.1.1 rom, I had to disable the MCT Service module, because otherwise I couldn't always connect my phone.
Someone has encountered a similar problem? How did solve it?
Have you checked that you have the correct BT module enable in factory settings ?
I think yes.
Let me explain: when I received the unit, in the factory setting was set on IVT_BT type.
I always had this problem, so one of the attempts that I made was to change the type of form, and I have tried all the available ones:
WQ_BC5
WQ_BC6
Parrot_FC6000T
IVT_BT
SD_BC5
WQ_BC6B
WQ_BC8
SD_BC8
In all cases, after the boot, in the Bluetooth settings does not appear the name of the unit and the pairing code.
If I try to manually configure name and passcode, if I go out on the settings it lose them. If I try to do a search, no device found.
The only module that seems to work is IVT_BT, but occasionally causes me the problem I described above.
The unit has always had 5.1.1 rom, what I thought of trying to do is use a 4.4.4 rom (maybe the new Malaysk), it could be a solution?
AFAIK, apart from the Parrot modules that have just started to appear, MTCB and C units always come with BC6 BT module. KK shouldnt make any difference really.
The only way to tell from certain is to remove the top, does it have a DVD/CD drive ?
Yes, I'll try to disassemble the unit and open the DVD to check the physical BT module.
But I don't understand, if I configuring in the factory settings the BC6 module will don't see the unit name and passcode and I cannot set it up in the bluetooth configuration... Also the MCU version don't make a difference?
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Yes, I'll try to disassemble the unit and open the DVD to check the physical BT module.
But I don't understand, if I configuring in the factory settings the BC6 module will don't see the unit name and passcode and I cannot set it up in the bluetooth configuration... Also the MCU version don't make a difference?
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Thats why I said have a look at the BT module, to establish exactly what one it is.
You could try MCU MTCC KLD9 v2.98 and see if that works better, its newer.
This is the BT module; unfortunately I cannot see good the face with the processor, I should completely disassemble the radio and today I had no time...
However, it seems that there is nothing written over that show the kind of bluetooth ...
I think I'll have to disassemble everything, find someone that sell me just the module and change it
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This is the BT module; unfortunately I cannot see good the face with the processor, I should completely disassemble the radio and today I had no time...
However, it seems that there is nothing written over that show the kind of bluetooth ...
I think I'll have to disassemble everything, find someone that sell me just the module and change it
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Its quite easy to remove the DVD drive and/or the side of the unit, there should be writing on the bit of the BT module that faces the side of the unit.
Bluetooth Issues
I have a question with the BT on my unit. I have the external Mic connected and people complain that they can't hear me and they always hang up me. Music works fine but on phone call I have to switch my phone to Speaker. Would disconnecting the external Mic would improve the call quality. Do you suggest I get another external microphone? If you do can you please link me to a good one. Please see the picture for my unit's information.
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I have a question with the BT on my unit. I have the external Mic connected and people complain that they can't hear me and they always hang up me. Music works fine but on phone call I have to switch my phone to Speaker. Would disconnecting the external Mic would improve the call quality. Do you suggest I get another external microphone? If you do can you please link me to a good one. Please see the picture for my unit's information.
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Theres a specific thread about how to mod the mic in the hardware section.
daverock said:
I think yes.
Let me explain: when I received the unit, in the factory setting was set on IVT_BT type.
I always had this problem, so one of the attempts that I made was to change the type of form, and I have tried all the available ones:
WQ_BC5
WQ_BC6
Parrot_FC6000T
IVT_BT
SD_BC5
WQ_BC6B
WQ_BC8
SD_BC8
In all cases, after the boot, in the Bluetooth settings does not appear the name of the unit and the pairing code.
If I try to manually configure name and passcode, if I go out on the settings it lose them. If I try to do a search, no device found.
The only module that seems to work is IVT_BT, but occasionally causes me the problem I described above.
The unit has always had 5.1.1 rom, what I thought of trying to do is use a 4.4.4 rom (maybe the new Malaysk), it could be a solution?
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I have the exact same issue right now. Did you ever resolve it?
manofconviction said:
I have the exact same issue right now. Did you ever resolve it?
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No, i'm sorry. The touchscreen of my old unit it broken, so i've changed it with a most modern unit, with 2 GB ram and Nougat os.
excessdivide said:
Hello everyone,
Big thanks to the heavy hitters here that are making these units actually usable!
I received my Dasaita HA5217-V600 two weeks ago and thanks to having previously scoured these forums, I was able to install it, in my 2016 Toyota Corolla, with relative ease. Everything worked better than expected, and I had great bluetooth sound, strong WiFi connections, my door and A/C controls appeared on screen, my SWC all matched and decent FM reception. My bluetooth OBDII adapter is arriving this week so I'll have to report back on that.
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My OBDII adapter arrived today and it immediately paired with my HU, and Torque Pro recognized it instantly! I'm thrilled at how easy this was.
For those interested, this is the adapter I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6HLRKY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So to recap:
My unit is:
MTCD HA5217-V600
10.2 " PX5 1.6 gHz, Octa-core, 2Gb/32Gb
Malaysk v5 ROM and MCU: MTCE v2.65f
Installed in 2016 Toyota Corolla S (6 speaker audio w/o factory "Entune" navigation system) and Rockford-Fosgate Prime's in both front and back.
SWC = all preprogrammed settings match my OEM settings, although they are unconfigurable.
Bluetooth connections have not yet dropped, volume and clarity are on pair with my previous Pioneer HU
Panel buttons all work and LEDs are configurable
Door and A/C controls all appear on screen.
GPS is fast and seemingly accurate so far. Recognized by every app that has looked for it.
OEM vehicle status listed properly in the 'vehicle' section
Amp/Fader/ViperFX all work as expected
WiFi connections are strong enough for my purpose. I can connect to my home WiFi from inside my garage.
AM/FM Reception and clarity are better than the stock system
Screen is bright and usable and auto-dims with Headlights on
Daylight brightness is a little difficult to see. (Then again I live in Florida and the tropical Sun made even my JVC, and Pioneer HU's difficult to see. Kenwood was the best for this IMHO)
OBDii interfaced paired quickly and easily and has so far stayed connected and recognized by apps
OEM Rear-view camera connects to the system without issue and is much easier to see on a 10" screen. As well as now having several configurable options in the "factory settings"
OEM USB port is recognized as well as the 2 additional USB ports included with the HU.
HOWEVER, the OEM AUX audio port is not usable with this configuration. (or if it is, I haven't figured out how to configure/access it yet)
I do not have a DAB+ or Front Camera, TV tuner/DVR so I do not have any information to share about those.
I tested the A/V in with a portable DVD player and there were no unusual issues there.
Over all I am very happy with this unit and am thrilled that I took the risk investing in it.
One more BIG thanks to everyone here who has helped to make these HU's worth it!
Thanks for the detailed write up. I just ordered mine. Px5 7 inch 2gb ram dasaita. Any tips for a newbie? I've been browsing the forums myself for the past couple of weeks and I'm aware of all the mods and custom ROMs etc. Just asking you if there's maybe any advice you wanna give on how I should proceed with the unit or just generally anything that might help.
Appreciate any reply
I have Dasaita/Hotaudio HA2100-v600 7" device and happy - it works here good!
@ Nasty_z: Stock rom & MCU and ModRom
excessdivide said:
My OBDII adapter arrived today and it immediately paired with my HU, and Torque Pro recognized it instantly! I'm thrilled at how easy this was.
For those interested, this is the adapter I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6HLRKY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So to recap:
My unit is:
MTCD HA5217-V600
10.2 " PX5 1.6 gHz, Octa-core, 2Gb/32Gb
Malaysk v5 ROM and MCU: MTCE v2.65f
Installed in 2016 Toyota Corolla S (6 speaker audio w/o factory "Entune" navigation system) and Rockford-Fosgate Prime's in both front and back.
SWC = all preprogrammed settings match my OEM settings, although they are unconfigurable.
Bluetooth connections have not yet dropped, volume and clarity are on pair with my previous Pioneer HU
Panel buttons all work and LEDs are configurable
Door and A/C controls all appear on screen.
GPS is fast and seemingly accurate so far. Recognized by every app that has looked for it.
OEM vehicle status listed properly in the 'vehicle' section
Amp/Fader/ViperFX all work as expected
WiFi connections are strong enough for my purpose. I can connect to my home WiFi from inside my garage.
AM/FM Reception and clarity are better than the stock system
Screen is bright and usable and auto-dims with Headlights on
Daylight brightness is a little difficult to see. (Then again I live in Florida and the tropical Sun made even my JVC, and Pioneer HU's difficult to see. Kenwood was the best for this IMHO)
OBDii interfaced paired quickly and easily and has so far stayed connected and recognized by apps
OEM Rear-view camera connects to the system without issue and is much easier to see on a 10" screen. As well as now having several configurable options in the "factory settings"
OEM USB port is recognized as well as the 2 additional USB ports included with the HU.
HOWEVER, the OEM AUX audio port is not usable with this configuration. (or if it is, I haven't figured out how to configure/access it yet)
I do not have a DAB+ or Front Camera, TV tuner/DVR so I do not have any information to share about those.
I tested the A/V in with a portable DVD player and there were no unusual issues there.
Over all I am very happy with this unit and am thrilled that I took the risk investing in it.
One more BIG thanks to everyone here who has helped to make these HU's worth it!
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Hi, I'm a fellow Corolla owner in FL As well!
I just bought a Dasaita PX3 2GB RAM 16GB (Quad core vs your 8 core PX5 due to it being close to $300 flat on an ebay flash sale) and have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
I appreciate your very detailed post as I'm patiently waiting for mines to arrive within the next week.
gab2012 said:
Hi, I'm a fellow Corolla owner in FL As well!
I appreciate your very detailed post as I'm patiently waiting for mines to arrive within the next week.
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I have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
*Sad to say that I have not yet found a way to use the AUX port, but then again I haven't tried very hard.
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
*I mounted mine on the passenger side dashboard, as far right and forward as it would go. It blends right in as far as I am concerned.
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
*I Bought Car Launcher Pro. By far the best overall. It has been steadily updated, has a great look/feel, easy to modify and the most stable.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
*Nothing that I can think of. I'm still in love with it!
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
*I don't use Google Maps, but I have Waze autostart. I'm dependent upon it now! Lots of threads here about Google Maps not working well.
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
*as of HA-2.75 it does.
You |may| have to trim a piece or 2 off the bezel to get it to fit perfectly in your dash. I had to cut off 2 tabs on top of my PX5.
Good luck!
I have a similar 9" unit.
Running Malaysk v5 ROM and MTCE v2.71 as the bluetooth for 2.75 didn't work well.
I do have the DAB+ aerial and app and it works ok however mostly I use Google music. I have no problems using Waze or copilot.
What I haven't been able to do is get my reversing camera to show on the screen. I have a wireless version and both halfs have leds that light up when the car is in reverse but no picture regardless of which connection I use.
Also I can't get it to connect to a ELM357 OBD2 dongle.
I've had the unit for 4 months and last week while driving to work the screen went black, the unit was still working it was just the screen. The next time I started the car the screen came back....weird.
Other then this the units ace!
excessdivide said:
I have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
*Sad to say that I have not yet found a way to use the AUX port, but then again I haven't tried very hard.
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
*I mounted mine on the passenger side dashboard, as far right and forward as it would go. It blends right in as far as I am concerned.
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
*I Bought Car Launcher Pro. By far the best overall. It has been steadily updated, has a great look/feel, easy to modify and the most stable.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
*Nothing that I can think of. I'm still in love with it!
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
*I don't use Google Maps, but I have Waze autostart. I'm dependent upon it now! Lots of threads here about Google Maps not working well.
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
*as of HA-2.75 it does.
You |may| have to trim a piece or 2 off the bezel to get it to fit perfectly in your dash. I had to cut off 2 tabs on top of my PX5.
Good luck!
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Just to give you a quick update, I received my PX3 unit about a week ago and installed it. At first I encountered one main bug which was that the radio app would go to the background automatically every time I opened it, dasaita sent me the link to the MCU thread and everything updated fixing the issue.
As far as launchers go, I stuck with Car Web Guru for now as it gave the most options on a free basis to experiment with different themes.
The only thing I've noticed is that the backup camera image is a little laggy but nothing to die for.
The only thing I'm still trying to figure out is how to get my wifi hotspot to start automatically (Note 8) when connected to CAR KIT, I tried tasker but it says unable for my device.
I love this HU! and Dasaita on ebay has been very responsive.
gab2012 said:
Just to give you a quick update, I received my PX3 unit about a week ago and installed it. At first I encountered one main bug which was that the radio app would go to the background automatically every time I opened it, dasaita sent me the link to the MCU thread and everything updated fixing the issue.
As far as launchers go, I stuck with Car Web Guru for now as it gave the most options on a free basis to experiment with different themes.
The only thing I've noticed is that the backup camera image is a little laggy but nothing to die for.
The only thing I'm still trying to figure out is how to get my wifi hotspot to start automatically (Note 8) when connected to CAR KIT, I tried tasker but it says unable for my device.
I love this HU! and Dasaita on ebay has been very responsive.
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Hello I have bought a Dasaita HA2039-S720 for Mitsubishi Outlander 2014. I have the same Issue with my Radio App. Everytime I open it, it goes in background. Kill it with the Task Manager can't stop the Music. I have to reboot the Device. I have MCU Version MTCE_HA_V2.75.1 and ROM px3-userdebug 7.1.2NHG47L eng.hct.20171206.143935 test-keys.
Did a system update realy fix your Problem? I noticed that this happend every time a station is scanned and saved. Delete the Cache and Programm Data from Radio App in the App section fixed the issue but you have no music then but white noise.
I have some Issues with apps in general. Sometimes Apps are crashing and did not load properly and stuck while loading.
My OEM Rear CAM Image is laggy and not very smooth too.
Today I tried to update die Rom with this Version HCT2_px3_7.1(20180206) but it failed. Don't know if it's the right one. The Device found this Image and promptet me to update. After a short loading screen a Faild message appeared on the screen and it showed an options screen. I inserted another SD CARD with the image of the update and choosed "update from SD or USB" but it failed again so I rebooted the system. I choose swipe in the beginning and after a reboot the system was in factory condition.
But can anybody explain me what went wrong and how to properly make a Rom and MCU update.
Thanx
Hey guys I just wanted to become a part of this I just purchased and installed this type radio along with the Bluetooth adapter for the cars computer. Hopefully I will soon get the ATSC digital antenna so I can watch TV when my wife goes in to shop for something that will supposedly: "only take a minute." I have to say the install was incredibly easy. Everything works very well and sounded great connected to my factory system of the 2013 Kia Optima. I did use the radio's subwoofer output and added a 300 watt powered Rockford Fosgate subwoofer. It all sounds amazing together. I attached two photos of the type of radio I purchased (or tried to. Kinda new here).
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I am looking at one of these model for my Ford Focus, but can anyone tell me if it come with a separate canbus?? The only reason I am asking is that I have the V840-8 which doesn’t.... unfortunately it only has a prgramable key control, which doesn’t always work...
Many thanks for anyone that can help
Bradsr12 said:
I am looking at one of these model for my Ford Focus, but can anyone tell me if it come with a separate canbus?? The only reason I am asking is that I have the V840-8 which doesn’t.... unfortunately it only has a prgramable key control, which doesn’t always work...
Many thanks for anyone that can help
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Hello
i don't know which model Focus you have. I have a Focus MK3 from 2012 and i just ordered this unithttps://nl.aliexpress.com/item/Dasaita-Android-8-0-4g-32g-Car-Radio-for-Ford-Focus-2012-2013-2014-2015-Multimedia/32889176494.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1e934c4diSRsuQ
and it comes with a canbus adapter and works great. i received it today and installed it. Everything works out of the box.
Thank you so much for your reply, mine is the Ford Focus mk2 2010 so slightly different, however despite the stereo surround the unit is the same, it the harness is a different connection... mine is a square connection
Really appreciate your help
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May I ask if yours is the V600??
Bradsr12 said:
Thank you so much for your reply, mine is the Ford Focus mk2 2010 so slightly different, however despite the stereo surround the unit is the same, it the harness is a different connection... mine is a square connection
Really appreciate your help
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May I ask if yours is the V600??
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http://www.hot-audio.com/category/Ford-3.html
I tink they have a car specific unit for you too. Just check out their site. The benefits of these units is that it will fit perfect in your car and all cables and adapters are included...
Btw I have a v840-8 unit
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I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
scotch&dry said:
I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
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My Dasaita PX5 4/32 unit (MCU version 2.88) turns completely off in 30 seconds (lowest preset in system settings) after turning the ignition off.
When turning the ignition on the unit is starting up behind the scenes. When you press power it's already half way in the booting process or even done depending on how quick you switch the unit on.
I'd say about 15 seconds to boot up. This is with a DAB+ unit and USB stick attached.
If you want instant on (e.g. when shopping for an hour or doing multiple deliveries), you can play with the different off time presets in the system settings.
TBM2 said:
My Dasaita PX5 4/32 unit (MCU version 2.88) turns completely off in 30 seconds (lowest preset in system settings) after turning the ignition off.
When turning the ignition on the unit is starting up behind the scenes. When you press power it's already half way in the booting process or even done depending on how quick you switch the unit on.
I'd say about 15 seconds to boot up. This is with a DAB+ unit and USB stick attached.
If you want instant on (e.g. when shopping for an hour or doing multiple deliveries), you can play with the different off time presets in the system settings.
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Awesome. Thanks for this info @TBM2
How good is the microphone performance? I have an old android headunit that I could never get mics to work properly on. Voice calls and "Okay Google" is important for me when I upgrade.
Grims said:
How good is the microphone performance? I have an old android headunit that I could never get mics to work properly on. Voice calls and "Okay Google" is important for me when I upgrade.
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It's an MTCD - they're pretty much all the same.
For best peformance on this platform, use an external mic, which may require the internal disconnected.
marchnz said:
It's an MTCD - they're pretty much all the same.
For best peformance on this platform, use an external mic, which may require the internal disconnected.
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Sorry, I'm just curious as I just got one for my car installed... but the internal microphone performance is horrible. The box came w/ an external microphone, but is there something i need to do to disable the internal microphone?
scotch&dry said:
I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
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Like any MTCD unit, first boot is approx 15-20 secs, with the unit sleeping thereafter resulting in 'instant' resume.
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Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
moreno_cos said:
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
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Check that allí connectors from/to canbus and to the headunit are well connected (sometimes they require some force press to really be plugged)
On the link you provided there is a guy that commented that everything worked as expected including the SWC so....if you can't fix it contact your seller for support
Enviado desde mi SM-G950F mediante Tapatalk
moreno_cos said:
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
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On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
iRcKenny said:
On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
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On 1st photo: I agree with you. My alfa romeo is a car of 2007 and it hasn´t blue&me installed. I did not know if I could use these buttons with the new radio
On 2nd photo: The buttons were working with my original radio. I could change the memorized radio programs. I've seen in some YouTube video, how this function is still operational with the android radio car and I would like use its.
Thank you very much for your help
moreno_cos said:
On 1st photo: I agree with you. My alfa romeo is a car of 2007 and it hasn´t blue&me installed. I did not know if I could use these buttons with the new radio
On 2nd photo: The buttons were working with my original radio. I could change the memorized radio programs. I've seen in some YouTube video, how this function is still operational with the android radio car and I would like use its.
Thank you very much for your help
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Try long pressing the ones for "skip tracks/seek radio stations". My units acts like this. Try also all "Alfa Romes" canbus entries on Factory Settings
iRcKenny said:
On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
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iRcKenny said:
Try long pressing the ones for "skip tracks/seek radio stations". My units acts like this. Try also all "Alfa Romes" canbus entries on Factory Settings
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Long pressing not working, and I´ve tried to configure canbus tap but it not resolve de issue
Thank you again
Hi!!
My Alfa 159 works like yours, only 4 buttons are working. I had one unit android 5.1 before the 7.1.2 and everything from swc work.
If you have the solution please MP
Ruiroach said:
Hi!!
My Alfa 159 works like yours, only 4 buttons are working. I had one unit android 5.1 before the 7.1.2 and everything from swc work.
If you have the solution please MP
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The seller send me a rom update, but I don´t sure to update the radio... Will it solve the problem or will it further damage it...
I can send you the rom if yo want it
moreno_cos said:
The seller send me a rom update, but I don´t sure to update the radio... Will it solve the problem or will it further damage it...
I can send you the rom if yo want it
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I dont think it will make any difference, there is a way that MTCDTools can remap SWC on cars with CAN Bus, @ikerg can tell you how to do it or what thread its in.
typos1 said:
I dont think it will make any difference, there is a way that MTCDTools can remap SWC on cars with CAN Bus, @ikerg can tell you how to do it or what thread its in.
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any ideas please?
moreno_cos said:
any ideas please?
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pm @ikerg or search the forums, hes deffo mentioned how to do it on CAN Bus units before.
typos1 said:
pm @ikerg or search the forums, hes deffo mentioned how to do it on CAN Bus units before.
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Found said posts and they were for car which communicate with resistive signals via canbus (or something ), so wiring the canbus from car harness directly to key1/2 gives access to the buttons.
If Alfa uses no resistive signals, you wont get away with this.
GM cars like mine have the buttons via hardcoded addresses via canbus and you can only try to find those codes in android or mod MCU profile it seems... too nub to do so in my case.. trying hard
Xorit said:
Found said posts and they were for car which communicate with resistive signals via canbus (or something ), so wiring the canbus from car harness directly to key1/2 gives access to the buttons.
If Alfa uses no resistive signals, you wont get away with this.
GM cars like mine have the buttons via hardcoded addresses via canbus and you can only try to find those codes in android or mod MCU profile it seems... too nub to do so in my case.. trying hard
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Theyre not the posts I was talking about - pretty certain theres a way to programme CAN Bus SWC.
Alfa 159s have CAN Bus SWC.
I've had a similar problem with my Alfa 159 when I installed a PX3 unit. However, for me all the SWC buttons except the centre button on the left set work (i.e. pic 1) and only the left and right SWC buttons on the right set (i.e. pic 2). It is weird as the buttons that do not work mimic the other buttons for some reason so it's like crossing of signals or decoding it wrong.
As I didn't find anyone else having a problem I assumed it was either the CAN bus decoder (I opened it up and flipped switch 4 which helped I think but maybe it isn't suitable?) or the connection behind the steering wheel is loose. I haven't got round to checking the connection (apparently it's simple to open) as I can still control most things.
BTW, my car had the blue&me installed from factory.
SWC on Alfa Romeo 159
H all, I just installed a new Android head unit in my Alfa Romeo 159 SW (2006) and all the SWC's work and I can map them from the app. Below I will explain how I did it, hope this will help.
My head unit:
Xtrons TE706PL
PX 5 octacore 4GB 32BG Android 8
My car:
Alfa Romeo 159 SW
Upgraded from original radio (so not the navigation unit)
My car did not have Blue&Me
Required hardware:
Dedicated CANBUS adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTSAR002.2 (product number)
Patch lead to go with canbus adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTMULTILEAD.2 (product number)
I ordered both from Amazon Germany from seller NIQ. The patch lead was included with the CANBUS adapter, just make sure to select the correct one meant for Chinese head units. Price was 60 euros.
Installation
The CANBUS adapter is connected between the original car connections and the head unit. This looks confusing at first (it has connections on three sides), but in the end everything only fits one way. On one side connect the patch lead, on the other side it is connected to the head unit and on the last side it is connected to the original car plugs. All these connections are very simple with plugs that only fit one way. (I did need quite some force to push in the 2 of the 3 original plugs into the CANBUS adapter)
As mentioned, the patch lead is connected to the CANBUS adapter on one side. On the other side you need to connect it to the KEY 1, KEY 2 and GROUND wire coming from the head unit. This was the only connection that is not made with plugs, so either crimp them together (which I did, very simple, but you need a crimping tool), solder them, or make another good wire to wire connection.
Important notes:
The connection need to be made in a specific order!
First connect KEY 1, KEY 2 and GRND wires
Second connect the CANBUS adapter to the head unit
Last step is to connect the CANBUS adapter to the car connections
My car did not have Blue&Me, so I don't know if this changes anything. I think I read somewhere you can just leave it in the car and not connect it. But maybe do a little research.
All this is also specified in the manuals provided with the products. Connects2 has some nice youtube videos on the CANBUS adapters, just google them.
I did quite some research myself before I figured it out, but now all is installed and working perfectly! I reprogrammed all the keys to my own preferences, including google assistant speech activation button.
Hope this helps!
SJ1977 said:
H all, I just installed a new Android head unit in my Alfa Romeo 159 SW (2006) and all the SWC's work and I can map them from the app. Below I will explain how I did it, hope this will help.
My head unit:
Xtrons TE706PL
PX 5 octacore 4GB 32BG Android 8
My car:
Alfa Romeo 159 SW
Upgraded from original radio (so not the navigation unit)
My car did not have Blue&Me
Required hardware:
Dedicated CANBUS adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTSAR002.2 (product number)
Patch lead to go with canbus adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTMULTILEAD.2 (product number)
I ordered both from Amazon Germany from seller NIQ. The patch lead was included with the CANBUS adapter, just make sure to select the correct one meant for Chinese head units. Price was 60 euros.
Installation
The CANBUS adapter is connected between the original car connections and the head unit. This looks confusing at first (it has connections on three sides), but in the end everything only fits one way. On one side connect the patch lead, on the other side it is connected to the head unit and on the last side it is connected to the original car plugs. All these connections are very simple with plugs that only fit one way. (I did need quite some force to push in the 2 of the 3 original plugs into the CANBUS adapter)
As mentioned, the patch lead is connected to the CANBUS adapter on one side. On the other side you need to connect it to the KEY 1, KEY 2 and GROUND wire coming from the head unit. This was the only connection that is not made with plugs, so either crimp them together (which I did, very simple, but you need a crimping tool), solder them, or make another good wire to wire connection.
Important notes:
The connection need to be made in a specific order!
First connect KEY 1, KEY 2 and GRND wires
Second connect the CANBUS adapter to the head unit
Last step is to connect the CANBUS adapter to the car connections
My car did not have Blue&Me, so I don't know if this changes anything. I think I read somewhere you can just leave it in the car and not connect it. But maybe do a little research.
All this is also specified in the manuals provided with the products. Connects2 has some nice youtube videos on the CANBUS adapters, just google them.
I did quite some research myself before I figured it out, but now all is installed and working perfectly! I reprogrammed all the keys to my own preferences, including google assistant speech activation button.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the info, but what unit do you have ? - "TE706PL" is a made up name, your MCU will tell us what unit it is, I m guessing a GS ?
typos1 said:
Thanks for the info, but what unit do you have ? - "TE706PL" is a made up name, your MCU will tell us what unit it is, I m guessing a GS ?
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Sorry, I was not near my car, so couldn't find my MCU version. But here it is:
MTCE_GS_V2.88_3
Jun 12 2018 11:17:36
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
bantroi said:
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
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More likely that its just not supported, some cars have even less support.
bantroi said:
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
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That's what Im trying to find, a canbus decoder with more options.
I had the alfa 159 android 5.1 unit and It shows temperature, doors and full keys function. I upgraded to a new unit android 7.1 and now I haven't temperature, doors and only half of keys are working.
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
Is it MTCx post system info including mcu version.
Mtcb is long retired
marchnz said:
Is it MTCx post system info including mcu version.
Mtcb is long retired
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All I know is the model is Xtrons PQS90MTVL so maybe its MTVL (whatever that is) I'm afraid I don't know what mcu means so cannot offer any version for it. Its possible I have posted this in the wrong section and have rep[osted in 'Android Head-Units'. If that is the right place and this is the wrong place, please can you delete this post