There are two variants of 4gig model
1.8 and 2.3 .
I wanna know how much difference is there between them ?
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The extra 2gb makes all the difference. 1.8 vs 2.3 isn't much of a factor. If 64gb and a quick charger is worth $60 to you, then the extra cpu speed is a bonus.
You will probably see the difference in gaming, multitasking and power hungry apps.
The thing is you can clock down the cpu with a 2.3 but you cannot overclock a 1.8 to 2.3.
are there?, we are talking about z551 right?, from what I knew, the 1.8ghz model only have 2gb ram, while buying the 4gb ram one gives you 2.3ghz proc. But CMIIW.
oktoaditya said:
are there?, we are talking about z551 right?, from what I knew, the 1.8ghz model only have 2gb ram, while buying the 4gb ram one gives you 2.3ghz proc. But CMIIW.
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there is a 1.8ghz varient with 4gb ram as well
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there is a 1.8ghz varient with 4gb ram as well
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well i second this post then
ziddey said:
The extra 2gb makes all the difference. 1.8 vs 2.3 isn't much of a factor. If 64gb and a quick charger is worth $60 to you, then the extra cpu speed is a bonus.
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I dont see difference between 1.8 and 2.3GHz. I usually underclock the Z3580 to 1.83GHz (less, sometimes), and I dont feel drop in the smoothness.
If you can spend some more, its better you go with the 2.3GHz Model.
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I've had a 1st gen Moto G for a while and I have up to ~£250 to spend. I was settled on a OPO or an LG G3 (16GB/2GB RAM) since they're both around £240 now. After a bit more reading I think I'd prefer a Zenfone 2, but I'm not sure which models I should go for, or which I can use in the UK.
I usually just buy from Amazon but have noticed a lot of sites I've never seen before offering various models at much cheaper prices, like eglobal central. The confusion comes with the model variants and which is best. I want to make sure I get a model with a 1080p screen, which appears to be the ZE551ML. There appears to be a few different models with sometimes not-so-clear specs. There is this one, but it states a 1.8GHz CPU, which indicates that it's the 2GB RAM model, but states that it's 4GB. Also, this one, that states the same, i.e 1.8GHz with 4GB RAM.
Is there a model with 2.3GHz/4GB RAM with only 16/32GB storage? Is there such a model with 1.8GHz/4GB RAM, or are these sites citing wrong specs? Is it worth the extra money to go for the 2.3GHz model over the 1.8, or 4GB RAM over 2GB? Where is the best place to buy from since the Amazon sellers seem to be charging £70-80 more for the same models as those other smaller sites?
I'm not worried about the storage since 16/32GB is plenty, and the phone allows for a memory card. I'm not really a phone gamer, so I'm not hugely worried about GFX performance. Not really worried about the camera either since I only rarely take pics and almost never video. I just want a 5.5 inch screen with decent specs and the Zenfone seems to offer the best price/spec ratio for me. Provided I can root the phone then I'm happy enough. I can get to custom ROMs later.
Cheers.
FWIW, the one I got has the 1.8 GHz CPU, 4 GB of RAM and 32 GB of storage. So such a variant definitely does exist. It's the WW (international) version, and came with a UK type plug on the charger.
I have just received the 1.8gh variant with 4g of ram and 32gb storage I bought mine from eglobal for £181 delivery was 3days.
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buge boyo said:
I have just received the 1.8gh variant with 4g of ram and 32gb storage I bought mine from eglobal for £181 delivery was 3days.
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I just ordered the same model (silver) from the same place about 5 minutes ago. For the size/spec it's a steal at that price.
It should be in your hands by Thursday.
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You should've got the 4Gb/64Gb model. It uses the Z3580 CPU at 2.3Ghz instead of the Z3560 at 1.8Ghz.
Slightly faster but around 7000 points difference on Antutu (if you are interested in that)...
It also comes with the speedy charger which the 1.8Ghz version doesn't...
They both come with the same speed charger the only difference is in the CPU clock speed and storage amount. Besides with custom kernels you can increase the clock speed.
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buge boyo said:
They both come with the same speed charger the only difference is in the CPU clock speed and storage amount. Besides with custom kernels you can increase the clock speed.
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Well nope, the lower-clocked version is delivered with a plain charger, and only the 2.4 GHz version comes with a Quick Charge one. At least that's the case for the vendors I checked.
And I wouldn't hold my breath for custom kernels, there are none at present.
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Well nope, the lower-clocked version is delivered with a plain charger, and only the 2.4 GHz version comes with a Quick Charge one. At least that's the case for the vendors I checked.
And I wouldn't hold my breath for custom kernels, there are none at present.
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From some of the video reviews I've seen, they state that the 1.8GHz model (regardless of RAM/storage and including the ZE550ML) all lack the quick-charge charger.
hi, i want to buy the zenfone.. but i read that all 4gb medel should packing the Intel Atom Z3580 , with 2.3ghz .
but on sales site, like pandawill or geekbuying, i see the 4gb ram model with Intel Atom Z3560
what is real ?
havlaz said:
hi, i want to buy the zenfone.. but i read that all 4gb medel should packing the Intel Atom Z3580 , with 2.3ghz .
but on sales site, like pandawill or geekbuying, i see the 4gb ram model with Intel Atom Z3560
what is real ?
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There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
The second variant has been released in India. Flipkart is selling this particular model. Not sure about other regions.
Hope this helps.
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There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
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Yep, the 2.3GHz model USUALLY costs 50-60€ more than the 1.8GHz (4gig) model.
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There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
The second variant has been released in India. Flipkart is selling this particular model. Not sure about other regions.
Hope this helps.
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Z3580 has also been released in India and i am using it.. I bought Asus Zenfone 2 (4GB, 2.3Ghz Z3580) from Flipkart only... It is the also mentioned in the Flipkart page (Intel Atom Z3580).... here is the link to the Z3580 phone http://www.flipkart.com/asus-zenfone-2/p/itme6pvuvfsxu5wb?pid=MOBE6PVUTMZSQNHE&ref=L%3A729938417393618866&srno=b_4
Leave it up to ASUS to make it all confusing with 8000 different models of the Zenfone 2. Going to make getting a custom ROM for your specific model a nightmare to figure out.
Several users (myself included) have gotten the 1.8/4GB model from eglobal central (£181). I'm sure there are plenty other sellers of this model. I too was under the impression that you needed to go for the 2.3GHz model to get the extra memory, but no. I didn't want to pay the extra £50-60 for the better CPU so I was glad I stumbled on this middle-of-the-road variant.
To date the 1.8ghz model with 4gb ram is the 551ml model and with 2gb ram is the 550ml model.
the 4gb 1.8ghz model is only available in the 32gb internal storage while the 2.3ghz model is 64gb internal storage.
Seriously though, on Antutu, if this stuff is a must, the 1.8ghz (4gb, cpu 3560) model scores around 40,000 and the 2.3ghz scores around 48,000 due to the better cpu(3580).
I don't see how this would be a nightmare for devs as it seems the roms for the 551ml models is the same....
Mine is 32gb, 4gb ram, 2.3ghz 3580
And guys, couldn't fine a better thread for this but what do you think is the best price/performance model?
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
Currently using G3 / 2GB and want a better UI performance and less lag/stutter. Don't care about gaming performance.
Thanks in advance.
1.8 GHz model is just fine
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
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I own the Z00AD (32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, Z3560) and it's just fine for me. Gaming performance and multitasking are great! I guess the 4GB RAM is what makes the difference here.
Also the 32GB of storage are no problem either because of the microSD expansion.
I would rather save some money and go for the Z00AD. The software is the same as on the Z00A (64GB, 2.3GHz).
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And guys, couldn't fine a better thread for this but what do you think is the best price/performance model?
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
Currently using G3 / 2GB and want a better UI performance and less lag/stutter. Don't care about gaming performance.
Thanks in advance.
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Going by Antutu benchmarks,
3580 with 4gb ram at 2.3ghz = 48000 score.
3560 with 4gb ram at 1.8ghz = 41000 score.
I have both and truthfully the 1.8ghz model is no different in general use.
Up to you if you want the "Best" model out there or not....
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How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
I own the Z00AD (32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, Z3560) and it's just fine for me. Gaming performance and multitasking are great! I guess the 4GB RAM is what makes the difference here.
Also the 32GB of storage are no problem either because of the microSD expansion.
I would rather save some money and go for the Z00AD. The software is the same as on the Z00A (64GB, 2.3GHz).
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Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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Thanks for the numbers but I generally ignore benchmarks, especially when real user experience is concerned.
Telling that both CPUs perform almost identical is encouraging though. Can you compare it to any other popular phones?
G3 is my first Android phone after lumias and I'm somewhat satisfied with its performance with some lags every now and then.
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Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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@ultramag69
Thanks for the numbers but I generally ignore benchmarks, especially when real user experience is concerned.
Telling that both CPUs perform almost identical is encouraging though. Can you compare it to any other popular phones?
G3 is my first Android phone after lumias and I'm somewhat satisfied with its performance with some lags every now and then.
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If you go to youtube there are a heap of comparison videos, usually with flagship devices, which tells you this is a good phone as it's only 1/3 to 1/2 the price.
The reviews are delivered by (mostly) impartial people though they do of course have their favourite devices too....
Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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Wow these are some hefty prices! I would not go with the chinese version as it has no warranty. And G3 vs. the 16GB Zenfone with 4GB of RAM is actually quite a tough decision.
What about the OnePlus One? Is it available in your country and if yes how much is it?
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Wow these are some hefty prices! I would not go with the chinese version as it has no warranty. And G3 vs. the 16GB Zenfone with 4GB of RAM is actually quite a tough decision.
What about the OnePlus One? Is it available in your country and if yes how much is it?
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In Oz I paid $500 for my 64gb 4gb 2.3ghz Zenphone 2 and $350 for the 32gb 4gb ram 1.8ghz Zenfone 2... That's about right....
You need to remember when you pay $00 you are talking US dollars most times and you have to take into account the exchange rate...
I've put G3 price for reference point though. For some reason, Zenfone 2 launched at a fairly higher price compared to other phones/countries.
Most expensive Zenfone 2 is 555$ (USD) compared to 300$ @Amazon. So it's quite un-encouraging to grab it.
And regarding OPO; Turkey is not an official OPO sales country. On top of that, ordering ANY phone is a no-go because if it gets spotted at the customs, it's automatically rejected, no matter what. That's valid for even 100$ Chinese phones.
So we are forced to buy either overpriced official phones or "illegal" ones which are still not cheap (OPO is inbetween 400-450$)
Someone try the new CM 12.1 on the 1.8GHz 4 GB RAM model ? Is it possible to flash it on this?
Thank you in advanced
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Someone try the new CM 12.1 on the 1.8GHz 4 GB RAM model ? Is it possible to flash it on this?
Thank you in advanced
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Should be OK as long as its a 551ML model. You should read the Op's post as all the information is there...
I am curious about the 1.8GHz/16GB ZE551ML. Does it have any advantages over the 2.3GHz/64GB model?
1.83 ghz model has better standby time due to cpu clock.
i have both of them the 4gb ram & 1.83 mhz model. ( rare to found lower cpu and 4gb) and 2.3ghz 4gb model. Model nubers same ze551
I'm finding contradicting info for the deluxe special edition sold in USA. ASUS usa webpage alludes that is equipped with z3590, but bunch of other pages say that is with Z3580. Has anybody actually bought the US version? If so, help me with the CPU: is it with Z3590?
According to specs on Amazon it's a z3580
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According to specs on Amazon it's a z3580
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I've mentioned above that i know that; i already looked at Amazon, B&H and NewEgg info and they all mention Z3580 but Asus USA says it has Z3590 (and some Philippines youtubers) , hence why i'm asking someone that has purchased one to help me out. Thanks for chiming in.
ASUS Khang should be able to help you with that, he wirks with US ASUS,for me I have always found Amazon's specs to be pretty accurate, he has a thread here on xda.
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Alrighty then, to answer to myself, this US deluxe special edition doesn't come with Z3590, it comes with Z3580. Well, i cannot justify the price of $399 just for bump in storage and some fancy back covers that i do not want. I went to a local Microcenter and there a saw it on the box that the SoC is the same as the regular ZF2.
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Alrighty then, to answer to myself, this US deluxe special edition doesn't come with Z3590, it comes with Z3580. Well, i cannot justify the price of $399 just for bump in storage and some fancy back covers that i do not want. I went to a local Microcenter and there a saw it on the box that the SoC is the same as the regular ZF2.
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Not true, There a few versions and the lower end versions come with the Z3560 cpu. I have a couple of Zenfone 2's, both with the Z3560 and the Z3580. Both have 4gb ram but the Z3580 has 64gb memory while the Z3560 only has 32gb...
Major difference is only really when doing benchmarks as daily use you don't really see that much of a performance difference...
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Not true, There a few versions and the lower end versions come with the Z3560 cpu. I have a couple of Zenfone 2's, both with the Z3560 and the Z3580. Both have 4gb ram but the Z3580 has 64gb memory while the Z3560 only has 32gb...
Major difference is only really when doing benchmarks as daily use you don't really see that much of a performance difference...
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Not sure what is not true. Are you saying that ZF2 with 64GB doesn't come with Z3580? If so, then i can tell you that i saw it with my own eyes at Microcenter on the box of the normal 64GB version of the ZF2; if not, then i'm not sure what are you getting at. The 16GB version comes with Z3560, i saw that one at Microcenter too.
I was going to pay $399.00 for the deluxe special edition if it came with Z3590. I know that Z3590 has a bump in burst freq. to 2.5GHz and bump in GPU burst frequency to 640 MHz. How much that translates into real world performance increase i do not know (i hoped for 8-10%); all i cared for that time when i was at Microcenter if the deluxe special edition was with Z3590. If it did have Z3590 i would have bought it, but since it doesn't have that CPU i decided to go for 64GB version with Z3580. 64GB + SD card slot was enough for me, i didn't care for those fancy covers, but unfortunately Microcenter didn't have it in stock (only display model) and i gave up on ZF2.
and can anybody tell me at what speed mhz does its ddr4 ram run at??? (eg like the snapdragon 652 run at 933mhz ddr3 ram speed ). your replys are appreciated and thanks in advance and are there any cons worth mentioning about this phone...
and can anybody post its 32gb rom and 3gb ram read and write speed .
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and can anybody tell me at what speed mhz does its ddr4 ram run at??? (eg like the snapdragon 652 run at 933mhz ddr3 ram speed ). your replys are appreciated and thanks in advance and are there any cons worth mentioning about this phone...
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Not even ufs 2.0
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Not even ufs 2.0
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Can you paste your rom and ram read and write speed using a1 bench or other similar app