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If you are not a developer, this phone is quite bad

I know I'm not the only one thinking this, but looks like I'm the only one who has the courage to admit this:
I thought that people who were calling this device a developer phone were exagerating.... Before buying it I was thinking: "Come on, those adds google put on youtube about the gnex are definitely not targeted towards developers"
I thought: "Wow a phone with stock android, future updates ensured, and those high end specs!..... Bought"
The thing is that hardware wise this device sucks.
And I'm not talking about the CPU and the ram (that's the hardware that matters for the developers, and the nexus is fast, we know it).
But i'm talking about the important hardware! The one that matters on a smartphone for normal people like me.
..as I said: I'm not trying to troll. I just want to talk with people who have my same thoughts
BUILD QUALITY: feels too cheap and it definitely doesn't give you that "built to last" feeling in your hand that Nokia or Motorola phones give you. But hey: you get a curved glass and super thin body...
ANTENNAS (GPS, WIFI, CELLULAR): while on my gsm galaxy nexus the 2g and 3g antennas are quite decent ( still not comparable to Motorolas or Nokia though) The Wi-Fi and the GPS are super weak in comparison to even low end smartphones made by Nokia Moto or Htc.
DISPLAY: worst 720p screen on a smartphone ever. First being a pentile display, ON YOUR EYES it's not a true 720p. Take a look to an IPS 720p display, THAT is sharpness. Though on paper it is 720p, so its perfect for developers who need to test apps on 720p screen. White color tone usually looks perfectly white on every phone, until you compare it to another phone side by side that has better whites. On the galaxy nexus you find yourself constantly thinking that what you are looking at, is not pure while.
SPEAKER: probably a very cheap speaker, just like all the "hidden parts" on this phone and all the hidden parts on Samsung phones in general. Don't ever compare it to a Nokia side by side or you'll cry.
(Why is the volume so lower on notifications and on YouTube? LOL Google)
VIBRATION: if you are used to the amazing vibration feedback that Nokia and HTC devices give you, hearing and feeling the galaxy nexus vibrate will be a pain. It just looks like Samsung didn't spend a penny on the vibration system on this device.
[Small story: I had a GS2 some months ago, one day I came back home and threw it on the bed, it did even had a case on... From that day the vibration became much weaker, almost nonexisting]... just for the lols
That said let's come to the part where we all agree:
Stock android is awesome and developers are probably having a much easier time working with this device
Its also really cheap now. Let's not forget that.

my quick thoughts:
BUILD QUALITY: this category will always be subject to personal preference
ANTENNAS (GPS, WIFI, CELLULAR): I don't get the same strength as with the Razr HD on Verizon, but no drops and data is still more than plentiful in speed
DISPLAY: I find it pretty sharp vs the S3 and some others, the whites are a little yellowy vs others but the blacks are way darker. So you have to pick do you want whites or blacks
SPEAKER: who uses the external speaker with all the bluetooth speakers/docks out there now?
VIBRATION: I like the vibration cuz this way when ur in class/work you feel it but can't hear it, hearing a phone vibrate defeats the purpose of having it on vibrate

I strongly disagree that HTC outperforms Samsung in terms of connectivity / signal strength. According to my (and many other users' ) experiences HTC devices used to have constant issues with WiFi, data signal drops etc something I've never experienced on my samsung devices. I find WiFi signal slightly weaker on Gnex than on my previous S2 or my brother's Droid RAZR but it's not a big deal since I've never experienced random connectivity drops. I do find lack of gorilla glass more irritating.
Comparing "new" IPS displays to our "old" SAMOLED it's little like comparing exynos 5 to our tiomap in terms of speed. (Anyway white will always look better on LCD screens while black on AMOLEDs.)
Before I bought Gnex I read a lot about very low max volume level, but to be honest I've never found it so low that I couldn't hear incoming notification or a phone cal.

this screen is awesome if you tweak it a little.... Reviews still praise the display to this day.
I personally love this phone, Go watch drop tests of the nexus vs. other phones and then come back and talk about build quality.
This is easily the best phone Ive ever owned, bar none. (and I am in no way a dev)

Phone is over a year old. What did you expect compared to newer models? It still holds fine. The build quality is a Sammy trademark.
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OP, though I see where you're coming from. I personally wanted a Nexus solely for the massive dev community (and just to clarify, I'm not a dev, just a ROM flashing addict). Personally, I feel that getting a Nexus for other reasons (like hardware) is kind of missing the point...

Let's not forget the Gnex cost $350, and it's over a year old, and it's now out of production. Is a Porsche 911 comparable too and in the same class as a VW GTI? The Gnex at that price point was absolutely the best bang for your buck...shortcomings and all. What more could you ask for in a $350 phone? Well, time passes and the Nexus 4 arrived at the same price, so now we can come to expect more features and better hardware for the same price :victory:

Funny though your comparing to a company who are now struggling to be afloat , even going so much so as sleeping with there's once enemy Nokia's!
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wannagofast said:
Let's not forget the Gnex cost $350, and it's over a year old, and it's now out of production. Is a Porsche 911 comparable too and in the same class as a VW GTI? The Gnex at that price point was absolutely the best bang for your buck...shortcomings and all. What more could you ask for in a $350 phone? Well, time passes and the Nexus 4 arrived at the same price, so now we can come to expect more features and better hardware for the same price :victory:
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It cost $350 for the late adopters. I paid $560 and others paid even more.

I wouldn't recommend nexus for an average smartphone user. OEM flagships are imo definitely more suitable here, they offer more eye candy ui, and usually more customization and user friendly options (t9 dialer, regular toggles, more camera options etc). Nexus line with the most lightweight firmware is for those who know why they want it.

polonordo said:
I know I'm not the only one thinking this, but looks like I'm the only one who has the courage to admit this:
I thought that people who were calling this device a developer phone were exagerating.... Before buying it I was thinking: "Come on, those adds google put on youtube about the gnex are definitely not targeted towards developers"
I thought: "Wow a phone with stock android, future updates ensured, and those high end specs!..... Bought"
The thing is that hardware wise this device sucks.
And I'm not talking about the CPU and the ram (that's the hardware that matters for the developers, and the nexus is fast, we know it).
But i'm talking about the important hardware! The one that matters on a smartphone for normal people like me.
..as I said: I'm not trying to troll. I just want to talk with people who have my same thoughts
BUILD QUALITY: feels too cheap and it definitely doesn't give you that "built to last" feeling in your hand that Nokia or Motorola phones give you. But hey: you get a curved glass and super thin body...
ANTENNAS (GPS, WIFI, CELLULAR): while on my gsm galaxy nexus the 2g and 3g antennas are quite decent ( still not comparable to Motorolas or Nokia though) The Wi-Fi and the GPS are super weak in comparison to even low end smartphones made by Nokia Moto or Htc.
DISPLAY: worst 720p screen on a smartphone ever. First being a pentile display, ON YOUR EYES it's not a true 720p. Take a look to an IPS 720p display, THAT is sharpness. Though on paper it is 720p, so its perfect for developers who need to test apps on 720p screen. White color tone usually looks perfectly white on every phone, until you compare it to another phone side by side that has better whites. On the galaxy nexus you find yourself constantly thinking that what you are looking at, is not pure while.
SPEAKER: probably a very cheap speaker, just like all the "hidden parts" on this phone and all the hidden parts on Samsung phones in general. Don't ever compare it to a Nokia side by side or you'll cry.
(Why is the volume so lower on notifications and on YouTube? LOL Google)
VIBRATION: if you are used to the amazing vibration feedback that Nokia and HTC devices give you, hearing and feeling the galaxy nexus vibrate will be a pain. It just looks like Samsung didn't spend a penny on the vibration system on this device.
[Small story: I had a GS2 some months ago, one day I came back home and threw it on the bed, it did even had a case on... From that day the vibration became much weaker, almost nonexisting]... just for the lols
That said let's come to the part where we all agree:
Stock android is awesome and developers are probably having a much easier time working with this device
Its also really cheap now. Let's not forget that.
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If you do not like the Gnex then go buy what is evident you really want, a Nokia or a Motorola. Everything you have just pointed out is opinion and nothing more. My mother doesn't know the first thing about anything tech, I build her computers for her and she loves her galaxy nexus, she has not a single complaint. I have many female friends that had iPhones that love how easy and smooth my phone runs as well. To say it's only for developers is ridiculous. What you should have done is called this thread "My rant about how Nokia, Motorola and HTC are better than Galaxy Nexus".
No offense but not one thing you have to say is based on fact. My phone has no issues with connectivity, whether it be data or wifi. My gps locks on instantly as long as I'm outside and within 10 seconds indoors. My screen is amazing, if you don't think this is 720p then you are blind (that's my opinion, not fact.). Vibration is no different than the last two HTC phones I owned, I have no problems with volume either. As someone already said, there is no reason to be using your device speakers for anything besides your ringtones and notifications in the age of Bluetooth.
Now onto build quality, you may personally want a oversized heavy lug of a phone but I love how lightweight and thin my Gnex is, I have not a single scratch on it nor a ding or dent and I do not use a screen protector or a case, this is coming from someone that keeps it in the same pocket as his car keys a lot of the time as well.
Now a lot of what I said is opinion as was what you said but out of the two of us, I at least point that out. You posted an entire comment speaking as though all these issues are fact and that this phone is only meant for developers, sorry man, I'm gonna have to go with "no" on both of those.

i dunno where to start man, are you trying to throw this thing against a brick wall? if they made it "tougher" people would complain that its too heavy. people (me included) like the thinness, it can go in my pocket without looking like a bannana or am i happy to see you joke. the build quality is fine, it feel like quality electronics but not tough enough to get run over by a bus. the speaker is fine, every music app has an eq, play musics eq works on the internal speaker and boosting the lower end clears up the tinny crappy tiny speaker sound pretty good. boohoo, pentile. the pentile argument is so overblown, my fascinate had a pentile screen and it looked amazing. i cant see any jagedness or pixels on my nexus, its plenty resolution. the radios are fine unless you live in the middle of nowhere (not bashing people who do) and if you do live in the sticks then why did you buy a phone knowing that it has a weak radio? you want a phone with loud vibration? get a rezound, jesus that things louder than the actual speaker in it. the point of vibrate is so you can feel it but dont hear it.
not trying to fight but man, it seems like you are posting to complain for the sake of complaining.

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i dunno where to start man, are you trying to throw this thing against a brick wall? if they made it "tougher" people would complain that its too heavy. people (me included) like the thinness, it can go in my pocket without looking like a bannana or am i happy to see you joke. the build quality is fine, it feel like quality electronics but not tough enough to get run over by a bus. the speaker is fine, every music app has an eq, play musics eq works on the internal speaker and boosting the lower end clears up the tinny crappy tiny speaker sound pretty good. boohoo, pentile. the pentile argument is so overblown, my fascinate had a pentile screen and it looked amazing. i cant see any jagedness or pixels on my nexus, its plenty resolution. the radios are fine unless you live in the middle of nowhere (not bashing people who do) and if you do live in the sticks then why did you buy a phone knowing that it has a weak radio? you want a phone with loud vibration? get a rezound, jesus that things louder than the actual speaker in it. the point of vibrate is so you can feel it but dont hear it.
not trying to fight but man, it seems like you are posting to complain for the sake of complaining.
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I agree with all of the above, I even stated most of the same things above you lol.
A lot of people forget that they can actually get apps that will increase vibration levels without even having to be rooted.

dankblaze said:
If you do not like the Gnex then go buy what is evident you really want, a Nokia or a Motorola. Everything you have just pointed out is opinion and nothing more. My mother doesn't know the first thing about anything tech, I build her computers for her and she loves her galaxy nexus, she has not a single complaint. I have many female friends that had iPhones that love how easy and smooth my phone runs as well. To say it's only for developers is ridiculous. What you should have done is called this thread "My rant about how Nokia, Motorola and HTC are better than Galaxy Nexus".
No offense but not one thing you have to say is based on fact. My phone has no issues with connectivity, whether it be data or wifi. My gps locks on instantly as long as I'm outside and within 10 seconds indoors. My screen is amazing, if you don't think this is 720p then you are blind (that's my opinion, not fact.). Vibration is no different than the last two HTC phones I owned, I have no problems with volume either. As someone already said, there is no reason to be using your device speakers for anything besides your ringtones and notifications in the age of Bluetooth.
Now onto build quality, you may personally want a oversized heavy lug of a phone but I love how lightweight and thin my Gnex is, I have not a single scratch on it nor a ding or dent and I do not use a screen protector or a case, this is coming from someone that keeps it in the same pocket as his car keys a lot of the time as well.
Now a lot of what I said is opinion as was what you said but out of the two of us, I at least point that out. You posted an entire comment speaking as though all these issues are fact and that this phone is only meant for developers, sorry man, I'm gonna have to go with "no" on both of those.
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We may have argued in the past but this is a quality post and I fully agree

Since this phone receives a lot of support from devs, you'll have plenty of custom roms and mods to toy with. Everyone can flash a custom rom or mod if they read the instructions carefully, you don't need to be a dev to do that.

That awkward moment when you realize this device is a year old.
It was great for its time.
People still use the Nexus One.
I completely disagree with this thread because I had a One S before and I know that this phone is better.
You know, specs aren't everything.
It's your personal preference.
Their could be a device with amazing specs, but looks like a pile of ****.
Or vice versa.
In my opinion, this device wins in both.
You still get decent specs, a nice screen, and a beautiful slim phone.

If you don't like it buy a new one, simple.
I'm happy with it, and I'm not a developer. I must be a frickin vampire or something.

Had my GNex for a year, switched to the Galaxy S3 for a month and came back to the GNex. Can't beat stock AOSP.

What version do you own?
I came from a CDMA Day 1 Toro. After a few months, I hated the phone with very much the same regard and issues you had. Then I got a GSM when I switched to T-Mobile.
I learned I had a dud in the Verizon version. The new GSM one is amazing, the screen is spectacular, the signal is strong and I cannot complain much about it. I prefer low vibration, I have my phone on silent or sound only.
Honestly the GSM Nexus is still one of the top performers of all time, it sits next to the iPhone 4 and Motorola Droid as the best/game changing smartphones of all time as well. The Galaxy Nexus became both a benchmark and a leaping off point for so many people, projects and development. True it has its issues, but when my Galaxy Nexus will out perform my Nexus 7 and a Galaxy S3 in normal day to day operation, it is a testimony to greatness.
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polonordo said:
If you are not an enthusiast, this phone is quite bad.
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FTFY
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Help Deciding - Nexus 5X or Nexus 6? All Input Appreciated!

So, it doesn't seem to be an easy choice for someone in the market for a new device whom prefers stock Android.
I am trying to weigh out the pros and cons between the 5X and the 6. (In my personal opinion of course)
Pros of the 6:
1440P Amoled Display
SD 805 (Yes, I consider this a Pro)
3GB ram
Dual Front Facing Speakers
Wireless Charging
Pros of the 5X:
Form Factor
Nexus Imprint
Better Camera
64bit soc ?
USB C ?
Is it right to compare the 5X to the 6, giving the substantial size difference? I believe so due to the price. I mean, the 32GB Nexus 6 is $80 cheaper than the 32GB Nexus 5X.
Tomorrow (11/24/2015) I will be receiving two packages from Fedex. One will contain a Brand New White Nexus 6, the other a Brand New Black Nexus 5X. I have 24 hours to decide which I want to keep.
I will GREATLY appreciate any and all input from current Nexus 5X owners. What made you decide to purchase a Nexus 5X, knowing that you could have gotten a Nexus 6 for less?
P.S- I'm not a fan of the Nexus 6P. I feel it is well worth $500, but for some reason I just don't really like it. I don't know if it is its appearance, the fact that it is a Huawei, I don't know. But something makes me not want it.

No one? Was it something I said? lol

Get the 5X, especially for the imprint it's worth it. Has good battery life also. I love it, I thought I wouldn't with all the "bad" reviews but it's an amazing phone!

buru898 said:
Get the 5X, especially for the imprint it's worth it. Has good battery life also. I love it, I thought I wouldn't with all the "bad" reviews but it's an amazing phone!
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What do you like most about your 5X? What color did you go with?
It's like, I love the N6 AMOLED Display and Dual Stereo Speakers, but then I love the 5X Form Factor and Nexus Imprint. The AMOLED vs IPS isnt that big of a deal to me. I love AMOLEDs deep blacks and vibrant colors, but I dont like their uneven pixel wearing and future nav bar / status bar retention. The 5X seems more future proof with 64bit SOC and USB C, but how future proof is 2GB of ram?
Sigh, I am way over thinking this! There is a 90% chance that regardless of which I get, it will be replaced with a new Nexus next Oct / Nov.
The Nexus 6 has a better display and better speakers. I just need to decide if that justifies the loss of a favorable form factor, fingerprint sensor, and better camera.

I went with black. I did want the AMOLED but this display is good anyway. Do you really need the stereo speakers? I find that kind of a gimmick. It's nice and all but the speaker on this phone works well, plus there's a mod to allow sound from the earpiece and it's surprisingly good.
With more iterations of Android, the RAM usage will only get better. I do wish it had 3GB but it performs fast for me.
You could get the 6 for cheap then just get the new Nexus phone next year . That's also not a bad idea, but I didn't like how big that phone is. The N5X is JUST big enough to where it isn't too big.

Nexus 5x is better for me.
The N6 was my phone, I sold it to buy a N5X. Today I have no regret.
Two main reasons : the N6 size and weight, it was difficult to use with one hand.
Other reasons : imprint, much better camera, much better battery, USB C, and IPS N5X screen is for me better than N6 amoled.
The only thing i am missing is the dual speakers.

yauyau said:
Nexus 5x is better for me.
The N6 was my phone, I sold it to buy a N5X. Today I have no regret.
Two main reasons : the N6 size and weight, it was difficult to use with one hand.
Other reasons : imprint, much better camera, much better battery, USB C, and IPS N5X screen is for me better than N6 amoled.
The only thing i am missing is the dual speakers.
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I'm not alone here then. You actually sold your Nexus 6 and bought a 5X. Did you ever feel like you "downgraded". I guess there are pros and cons to both really.
I like the Nexus 6 and for some reason I feel like if I go with the 5X I am downgrading. Yet, for some reason something is making me want the 5X. I guess I am trying to decide between performance and form factor. To me it seems the Nexus 6 has better specs as far as processor, ram, display, speakers. But, the 5X has a more functional form factor, fingerprint sensor, better camera, and USB C.
Talk about first world problems.... lol. Rough life I have, trying to decide if I want to keep the Nexus 6 or the Nexus 5X.
In the end, I think I am going to go with the 5X. I like the idea of the big beasty Nexus 6, but it is the phablet of phablets. Sure the display is nice and all, but damn it is a huge phone. Also, I am far from a power user. I do not play games or even download them to my phones. So the larger screen will be kind of a waste for me. My phone usage consist of calls, texts, web browsing, YouTube, normal app usage. I think the 5X is perfect for me. I'm not sure if it is worth getting the Nexus 6 just to have a better youtube experience, because for my usage that is about all I will be gaining.
I have been thinking about picking up a Nexus 7 for the at the house anyways. So maybe I will just stick with the 5X and pick up a Nexus 7 for the house. Then I will have the best of both worlds. Larger screen for media at home, and a solid functional phone for on the go.

Well I received my Nexus 6 and my Nexus 5X today. Next to the 5X, the Nexus 6 doesn't seem THAT much bigger. Until you turn the screens on. Then, I see a big difference. Colors look much more vivid on the 6, but whites look whiter on the 5X. I definitely did not get a 5X with the yellowing issue. My whites on my 5X are WHITE, where on the 6 they look slightly creamy. The 6 display is definitely brighter when both devices are max. I do see where people are coming from about AMOLED displays. They are super vivid, and the colors just pop, but they also have a cartoony look to them. Definitely over saturated. Call my crazy but I am starting to like the 5X display more. I have never had an AMOLED next to an IPS like this before. (previous iPhone guy here).
I would say the Whites and Grays look much better on the 5X, and the colors can look better on the 6, but almost way over saturated at times.
They both feel pretty good in the hand. More so the 5X, it actually feels like a phone. The 6 is just so wide. Feels more like a mini tablet than a phone. I snapped a few pics. The 5X definitely takes a better picture. The speakers on the 6 smoke the 5X hands down. (obviously) I love Nexus Imprint though.
This is going to be hard! I am giving myself until tomorrow morning to decide. It is looking to be exactly as I predicted. Do I want beasty media device with a huge display and dual speakers, or do I want a more functional device with a fingerprint sensor and better battery life.
Sigh.... I will say that I am leaning a little bit more towards the 5X. I am going to do some real world performance tests and see how that goes.

Rektifying said:
Did you ever feel like you "downgraded".
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Sure, the size of the screen and dual speakers give a better experience for youtube and web browsing, maybe for games too. But N5X screen size is not so far from N6' one. And I repeat, N5x IPS is better to my eyes than N6 amoled.
When I bought the N6 and saw its screen, after the N4, I said "wow it is large" !! When I put the phone in my pocket I also said "wow it is very large and heavy weight" !! After a few weeks, I felt I could not forget i had my phone with me, here in my pocket, annoying for all I was doing all day long (sitting, walking, driving, ...).
After my N6 I felt downgraded because I went back to my N4. That's maybe why I feel "upgraded" now.
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yauyau said:
Sure, the size of the screen and dual speakers give a better experience for youtube and web browsing, maybe for games too. But N5X screen size is not so far from N6' one. And I repeat, N5x IPS is better to my eyes than N6 amoled.
When I bought the N6 and saw its screen, after the N4, I said "wow it is large" !! When I put the phone in my pocket I also said "wow it is very large and heavy weight" !! After a few weeks, I felt I could not forget i had my phone with me, here in my pocket, annoying for all I was doing all day long (sitting, walking, driving, ...).
After my N6 I felt downgraded because I went back to my N4. That's maybe why I feel "upgraded" now.
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I love the idea of the 5X. The only problem is I have been using a Nexus 6 for almost two months. I'm so use to the display. It's super nice for Chrome and YouTube. Typing is a dream.
However, I have noticed the faults of its camera. It takes less than desirable photos. There are many times where I have tried to pull it out and use it while doing something, and I had to set down what was in my other hand to finish what I was doing on it. The size is awesome for media, and bad for everything else.
The form factor and functionality will be so much better if I go with the 5X. It would be nice to be able to whip out my phone, have it unlocked by the time it's out of my pocket, and send a text easily one handed. The camera would be a welcomed change as well.
Decisions, Decisions.

So, N5X is a good compromise.

The Nexus 5X would have been a good compromise. I couldn't do it though. After using the 5X for two days, I decided against it.
I feel the 5X is a great phone! I have nothing bad to say about it! If I had went from my iPhone 6 to the 5X I would have loved it! Going from a 4.7" LCD to a 5.2" LCD would have been a nice upgrade! However, I didn't. I went from an iPhone 6 to a Nexus 6. The switch made me love Amoled displays, as well as larger displays. (Phablets)
Ultimately I put the 5X side by side to the Nexus 6 and used them both for a couple hours. This just made me fully appreciate the 6 display and the dual stereo speakers even more. The 5X fingerprint sensor and better camera were not enough for me to ditch the 5.96" AMOLED Display and Dual Stereo Speakers. Don't get me wrong though, I thought the 5X did have a very nice IPS display. It had better whites than the 6, but to me colors and blacks couldn't even compare.
Farewell Nexus 5X forum. I will be returning to the Nexus 6 forum.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Only had the phone 3 days, but it has the most cohesive feel of all the Android devices I've owned, not as featureless as my Nexus 7, not over the top like my older HTC/Samsung devices. Switched to Nova Launcher, then switched back to Pixel launcher because it felt a better fit.

I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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I actually very much love this phone, I was expecting a lot to be hype, yet battery is good, cameras awesome see attached pics, and overall it's probably the best phone I owned in awhile, I was using an iPhone 5s, missed mu Android,. Operating system is fast and responsive and split screen multitasking is great especially with YouTube and chrome open

subhani said:
I love it. But I'm having some buyer's remorse. I still give it an 8 out of 10. A 10 would have been better than my previous in most categories, even if marginally.
The Pixel is more expensive than my 6P. It's subjectively uglier than my gold finish all metal 6P. It has no front firing dual speakers. It's speakers aren't as good as the 6P's. It has no 64gb option as my 6P did. And I know people may slate me for this, the 6P had a better camera. By a big margin.
So why the high rating? Well, the Pixel feels better in the hand. This is primarily due to the size. The build seems more solid and more dense. The software feels more natural, although this is hard to quantify. The Pixel doesn't exhibit any throttling that my 6P did, which is a huge improvement. It just seems a more polished finish.
It has excellent EIS and I think the 6P should have been given this as it's just software magic, AFAIK. But it is what it is.
No nightmares in the battery department. Quite stable in fact. My 6P was starting to drain quicker than I liked.
Did I say it's the only viable smaller handset with top end hardware? I find it so liberating to be using a smaller powerhouse again.
Most of all, it's just very reliable and dependable.
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Im sorry but the 6P does not have a better camera. Coming from a 6P as well i agree with some of your viewpoints but the camera isn't a valid arguement. While the 6P camera is good its not at the level of the pixel.

I've used android phones, I've used iPhones. If this is what Google has to offer with its first Pixel phone I'm excited for Pixel 2 already. The camera rocks, love the quality of photos, the UI is intuitive and fast. Opening apps feels instant for me at least no delay. Have yet to see the device slow down. Almost elliminates the need to shy away from stock one can be hopeful that Verizon doesn't end up blocking depixel8 otherwise I may end up unlocking the bootloader if I see they do.

I use an Android and iPhone handset concurrently for work-related reasons. The Pixel is great, and compares very favorably with the iPhone.
Battery: I used to run all intensive apps like Waze and streaming audio through the iPhone, now I don't fear running them on the Android.
App switching: You know when you're chatting with someone and you look something up to further your discussion along? The Overview button double-tap for switching back and forth is so great.
Fingerprint reader: Is faster than the iPhone 6.
You can probably get a nearly identical experience with a Xiaomi or Oneplus phone without spending $650+. I remember even seeing one of the new Xiaomi flagships featuring the same camera sensor. But I hoped that the Pixel being was it is, it'll be a more bug-free experience.

I bought this phone expecting to not like it and sell it in a few weeks. It doesn't have an sd card slot or a removable battery. That's a pretty big deal to me. But I got the 128gb and started allowing Google to back up my pics. I can go 16 hours on the battery with 4 hours SOT. That's exponentially better than my MXP or pretty much any other phone I've used. I have grandfathered unlimited on Verizon so my choices are slim if I want root. Everything about this phone works very well. It's super quick and feels good in the hand. Overall, I'm extremely pleased with it.
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I adore this phone. By far my favorite phone I've owned (S3, EVO 4G, EVO 4G LTE, HTC M8, Galaxy Note 5, Samsung Fireball, LG V20, LG V10). The experience has been unparalleled for me.

It's a great phone, but not worth the price tag that comes with it.

I would consider this to be the "photographer's phone." It has a great camera and amazing EIS. As well as unlimited original photo hosting on Google Photos.
Did I mention it has UNLIMITED, ORIGINAL photo hosting on Google Photos?
Don't get me wrong, there could be better cameras out there, but you just can't beat that perk of having a Pixel.

As a long time samsung owner, this device is a breath of fresh air. If it were more water resistant, and had wireless charging, it'd be a perfect 10.

what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods

So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.

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what overall love for Power Users?
i searched little bit and it seems ok but i want to ask from real life power users?
ease of rooting and number of custom roms & mods
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
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So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to look into Tasker.
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Power user here. Previously owned a Galaxy Note 5 and 7. I got the 128GB because I like to store lots of high-quality music files and 4K film. The auto backup photo/video feature is tremendous.
If you're on a normal Pixel (non-Verizon), rooting is a joke. Very simple. Custom ROMs are awesome - PureNexus is amazing and so are OctOS and RR. Not a ton of options but they've got everything you need. Dirty Unicorns is available too (no Slim ROM, sadly).
Root your phone and you can get those things you desire.
Actually, with Tasker, you could probably make the twist camera thing fairly easily. Probably don't need root for that, either.
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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.

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So I got my Pixel right before Christmas and switched from VZW to Project Fi at the same time. Mostly love the phone (and the service) and my minor complaints are all due to me being so used to my old Moto X '14. I really liked some of the Moto "tweaks" such as the twist camera and flashlight "chop". The camera on the Pixel is great but I really miss being able to take a picture by just touching the screen. Like I said, most of my complaints are really minor and consist of small missing software features. My only major complaint would be the sound of the speakers, they are too quiet which I really don't understand because when you strap the Pixel into a Daydream headset the sound is suddenly great. Battery life is fantastic. As for rooting/romming I'm still in the honeymoon phase where I haven't felt the need for either.
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There's an app for the twist camera. Made by the same guy who made ForceDoze.

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Upgraded to a 128gb unit in December from a HTC ONE M8 and love almost everything about it.
Seriously, the difference in cameras is just amazing. I've got a big family and we all use different phones, and going from one of the worst cameras to the best camera is absolutely incredible. It runs fast, I can play PSP games on it. The rapid charge? 15% to full in an hour?! seriously, just amazed.
I have 2 complaints, the speaker is just terrible in comparison to the M8 (best sounding phone I've ever used) and how I hold my phone in my right hand with my pinky on the bottom to keep it from slipping it just mutes it. Second complaint is location services just kill my battery. When my M8 was new, I once got 3 days on a full charge, with the Pixel I'm resembling those iPhone wallhuggers everyone likes to joke about.
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Battery life is much better than comparable Androids devices. I've never had such great battery life, honestly. Interestingly, I had an M8 for a year and did NOT get close to 3 days (not even 2). Coming from an LG V20, V10, Note 5 and Note 7 (and watching my wife's S7), this battery life is tremendous. I literally don't ever pay attention to battery anymore. I go to bed with 30-50% usually. I just charge overnight (why not?) to be safe.
But yes, the sound of M8 was unparalleled. Why they quit on that feature I'll never understand.

Overall I am pretty happy with the Pixel. I don't like large phones so i am glad Google offered a smaller version. I used to have the Nexus 5x (still do) but the Pixel has been lag free. Anyone who has been using Google's devices long enough knows the thing starts to lag and the only thing to get rid of it is to totally format every so often. This has been running great so far so I am happy.
One thing I hope Google does not do is eventually become like Samsung or Apple where they totally lock down the device. The price point was already bad enough, but if the attempt to become mainstream to the point where the phone cannot be customized I will be very unhappy.
If they want to sell their product as "Pure Android", that should include customization outside of their OWN OS. Locking things down is no better than Apple or Samsung.

so buy oneplus 3 or nexus 6p ?

i want to buy new phone after nexus 4 so should buy one plus 3 or nexus 6p and why

Oneplus 3. Nexus is quite a bit more expensive and doesn't provide too many goods to make it worth the price.

Wait for the OnePlus 3T (to be announced this 15th november).
- https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/09/oneplus-4/
- http://www.techradar.com/news/oneplus-3t-launch-all-but-confirmed-for-november-15-launch

Demian3112 said:
Oneplus 3. Nexus is quite a bit more expensive and doesn't provide too many goods to make it worth the price.
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its quite the same price around 400$

ahmedvip2008 said:
its quite the same price around 400$
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The 64GB variant it €490 here.

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its quite the same price around 400$
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Even at the same price I'd still recommend the OnePlus 3. It's more future proof in terms of specs and currently has one of the biggest communities of developers actively working on it. And even if you do decide to stick with OxygenOS, it's pretty damn close to stock Android anyways.

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Even at the same price I'd still recommend the OnePlus 3. It's more future proof in terms of specs and currently has one of the biggest communities of developers actively working on it. And even if you do decide to stick with OxygenOS, it's pretty damn close to stock Android anyways.
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so if the company stop supporting the device the developers will still support 6p is that also with 1+3
i have nexus 4 and dev still support it with android 7.1

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so if the company stop supporting the device the developers will still support 6p is that also with 1+3
i have nexus 4 and dev still support it with android 7.1
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ofc the only benefit of buying a nexus device is that google provides new android version half a year before any other brand and all other devices must wait till source gets released. but other than that the hardware is not good enough. if you are not into high performance games and want allways newest android version first then go for nexus. but you get better hardware for better cost if you go for oneplus ( buy oneplus3 t)

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ofc the only benefit of buying a nexus device is that google provides new android version half a year before any other brand and all other devices must wait till source gets released. but other than that the hardware is not good enough. if you are not into high performance games and want allways newest android version first then go for nexus. but you get better hardware for better cost if you go for oneplus ( buy oneplus3 t)
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Couldn't have put it better myself

I have both. There are a few things that may sway a decision. The 6P has nougat source and the available 7.X ROMs reflect that. This isn't a shot at anyone developing here, they just don't have it, or even a stock base to work with. If you like back fingerprint scanners you might lean toward the Nexus, if you're like me and don't that would favor the 3. Updates favor the 6 as mentioned already. The 3 is easier to handle without the massive bezels. The speakerphone through the 6 is very loud if need be and can be easily heard over background noise like a TV. In that regard the 3 is not bad at all but is outgunned by the 6 speakers.
For myself I was tired of keeping up two phones and wanted to move to a dual SIM. That combined with the fact that after several backside fingerprint scanners I'm starting to hate them the move was an easy one to make. I don't miss the 6P, it was and is a great device but the 3 is punching well above its cost.

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I have both. There are a few things that may sway a decision. The 6P has nougat source and the available 7.X ROMs reflect that. This isn't a shot at anyone developing here, they just don't have it, or even a stock base to work with. If you like back fingerprint scanners you might lean toward the Nexus, if you're like me and don't that would favor the 3. Updates favor the 6 as mentioned already. The 3 is easier to handle without the massive bezels. The speakerphone through the 6 is very loud if need be and can be easily heard over background noise like a TV. In that regard the 3 is not bad at all but is outgunned by the 6 speakers.
For myself I was tired of keeping up two phones and wanted to move to a dual SIM. That combined with the fact that after several backside fingerprint scanners I'm starting to hate them the move was an easy one to make. I don't miss the 6P, it was and is a great device but the 3 is punching well above its cost.
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what is the best screen for reading or watching videos

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what is the best screen for reading or watching videos
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if it was for reading and watching video content I prefer 6p. bigger screen, bigger resolution, dual facing speakers

I had the same dilemma, but couldn't get hold of a 6p so went for the op3. Awesome phone with new community builds coming thick and fast. I love mine :laugh:

Nexus 6p all day, every day. Better camera, better quality, better software better battery, better everything.

I think you forgot the hardware in nexus it's sucks
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Nexus 6p all day, every day. Better camera, better quality, better software better battery, better everything.
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Dude you can be a fanboy but don't lie... The 6P has a better camera, screen with dual front facing speakers and that's about it. The OnePlus 3 trump's it in battery life, it destroys it in absolute performance and is much quicker, has much more RAM that can be used without the processor overheating (S810 overheats like crazy, if someone says otherwise, they do not know what they are talking about). The OP3 doesn't snap in half like a cookie when bent, not to mention the fact that the rear glass over the camera cracks extremely easily. The fingerprint scanner is WAY faster on the OP3 Than the 6P. Camera in daylight is better but low light the 6P Is better, but the difference is surprisingly low. For OP, if you are any sort of power user at all and you do a lot of multi tasking or gaming for example, you will have to get the OP3 as the 6P slows down massive as the CPU goes from using the A57 core at 2.0ghz to not being able to use them and going to the garbage A53 cores to do the task which lead to lag and stutter. Not to mention when browsing the 6P is locked to the A53 cores because it'd overheat otherwise and because of this browsing is super slow. Last but not least, the OP3 beats it in audio quality outputted from the headphone jack, it's louder and has wider soundstage while sounding more crisp (you can really notice it in the base) and clean

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I think you forgot the hardware in nexus it's sucks
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why because processor ?!

Yes my nexus 6p here in Greece the summer easy frizz eggs
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Both dope phones boils down to (no pun intended) SD810 vs SD820 and fastest updates + source vs delayed updates + source
Personal preference really if updates matter to you go for the 6P if not will not be disappointed by the OP3

I had a 6P and switched to the Oneplus 3. I was sick of carrying an iPhone 6s for work and a 6P for my personal line. The dual sim capability is incredibly convenient but I would imagine not something that most people end up needing. Other than that here are my thoughts:
Speakers: 6P. If only for the placement. Maybe I am holding it wrong but I always seem to cover up my speaker when holding the phone in landscape mode. It sounds just fine otherwise. Most of the time I use earbuds anyway.
Camera: Tie. No real world difference for me. Both are great.
Fingerprint Sensor: OP3. Location is better when it's sitting on my desk, screen side up. It is also much faster than the 6P.
Buttons: OP3. I HATED the volume rocker location on the 6P. I was constantly changing volume when holding the phone in portrait mode and typing or whatever. This really annoyed the sh!t out of me. Also having the volume buttons on the opposite side of of the power button is better in my opinion. The notification slider is convenient, too.
Signal Strength: OP3 easily. I have a T-Mobile sim in sim1 and Verizon in sim2. The reception on T-Mobile sim is certainly better on the OP3. Not the case with the Verizon sim because of band compatability.
Feel: OP3. This thing feels more premium than the 6P...if that matters to you. It's also easier to hold.
Software: 6P. For the speed and guarantee of updates but OP3 Nougat will make this a tie. Nova Launcher though. And I don't care for rooting and ROMs anymore.
Screen: 6P? Yes it's more clear but really the OP3 screen is all I need in terms of size and resolutionw. One thing the 6P has going for it though is a totally flat screen. This makes screen protectors easier to apply without the ring around the edges.
Battery: OP3. Probably due to screen size and resolution. Also probably due to the reception being better. And Dash Charging is faster than Rapid Charging on the Nexus.
If I think of more, I will add to this post.

What phone to replace the Pixel 2XL - Getting bored annoyed by things

I have had the Pixel 2 XL for a bit over a year now. Allready swapped it 2 times (Audio problems and Screen Problems) and begin to get annoyed by some aspects of it :
- The 3D-Wrapped-***-screen - This screen is bad. I slowly get used to it but find myself put off by how the colors look and how my 6P had a better screen. Thanks to the absurd 2.75D Screen curvature I cant get a proper Glass cover for it and have settled on a plastic protector. It looks horrible.
- Software bugs -> How come I still get random bugs / freezes on a Google Phone with Google software ? Why do icons sometimes disappear in the recents view ?
- Sound -> I loved the stereo speakers on the 6P, I hate those on the 2XL.
And many other gripes...
I have two choices right now :
- continue to RMA the phone each time something breaks (speakers are at it again I believe) and finaly get my money back after 4-5 times, like the 6P in the end (not a bad deal if you think about it).
- sell it and get somethign else (OnePlus 6 / 6T ? Pocophone F1 ? Mi 9 ? Other ?)
What are the aspects you hate on this phone ? Which one has you drooling right now ? Is there even still a phone with a flat screen (realy dont get this idiotic trend... same as glass backs without NFC / Wireless charging...)
Cheers !

I don't have software bugs on my Pixel 2 XL - no freezes, no disappearing icons, nothing. Works like a clockwork :good:
My speakers are decent, also no problems. I don't use them extensively, though. The screen is better after I had to replace it (dropped the phone on solid tiles), my original screen was from October 2017. But the original one was not too bad, I got used to it.
I never would replace my phone with a non-Google phone - never had such good software on an Android device. Not to speak of fast updates, some phones just got Android P and I can install Q meanwhile.

Remove that screen protector!
A few scratch still look 10000 times better than any screen protector

ChriKn said:
I have had the Pixel 2 XL for a bit over a year now. Allready swapped it 2 times (Audio problems and Screen Problems) and begin to get annoyed by some aspects of it :
- The 3D-Wrapped-***-screen - This screen is bad. I slowly get used to it but find myself put off by how the colors look and how my 6P had a better screen. Thanks to the absurd 2.75D Screen curvature I cant get a proper Glass cover for it and have settled on a plastic protector. It looks horrible.
- Software bugs -> How come I still get random bugs / freezes on a Google Phone with Google software ? Why do icons sometimes disappear in the recents view ?
- Sound -> I loved the stereo speakers on the 6P, I hate those on the 2XL.
And many other gripes...
I have two choices right now :
- continue to RMA the phone each time something breaks (speakers are at it again I believe) and finaly get my money back after 4-5 times, like the 6P in the end (not a bad deal if you think about it).
- sell it and get somethign else (OnePlus 6 / 6T ? Pocophone F1 ? Mi 9 ? Other ?)
What are the aspects you hate on this phone ? Which one has you drooling right now ? Is there even still a phone with a flat screen (realy dont get this idiotic trend... same as glass backs without NFC / Wireless charging...)
Cheers !
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Samsung 10e seems to be phone for you if you are looking for one with a flat screen. Oneplus 6t is a good option too but doesn't have wireless charging and camera is mediocre compared to pixel.

nikhil.agrawal said:
Samsung 10e seems to be phone for you if you are looking for one with a flat screen. Oneplus 6t is a good option too but doesn't have wireless charging and camera is mediocre compared to pixel.
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If S10's camera is anything like the S9, then it's not much better than the 6t... It's amazing for videos, but for stills, nothing beats the Pixel (2 and 3)... This is coming from a photographer...

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If S10's camera is anything like the S9, then it's not much better than the 6t... It's amazing for videos, but for stills, nothing beats the Pixel (2 and 3)... This is coming from a photographer...
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Yeah I'm aware of that. Pixel produces the most natural looking pictures.

It's a REALLY tough decision, in my opinion. I've been debating the same thing for a couple weeks now too. My big thing is front facing speakers, an absolute must for me. I've seriously considered the Razer 2 but I've recently decided against it. I have the opportunity to get a Pixel 3XL for next to nothing. I'll probably hop on that train. I love this phone too. I'm just ready to move on. My wife just got the S10+.... that's what's motivating me to upgrade. Beautiful phone but I need more freedom than what a Snapdragon Sammy provides...

I don't hate anything about the 2xl. The screen did have some issues but everything has been perfect with the warranty replacement I received last November. A headphone jack would be nice but not a deal breaker with the improvements in wireless earbuds. The front speakers weren't any better on my 6P and it felt like a less reliable phone due to potential battery and bootloop issues. I prefer the overall design and build quality of the 2xl. I'll wait for the Pixel 4 before I think about a new phone.
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I don't hate anything about the 2xl. The screen did have some issues but everything has been perfect with the warranty replacement I received last November. A headphone jack would be nice but not a deal breaker with the improvements in wireless earbuds. The front speakers weren't any better on my 6P and it felt like a less reliable phone due to potential battery and bootloop issues. I prefer the overall design and build quality of the 2xl. I'll wait for the Pixel 4 before I think about a new phone.
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This sums up my situation perfectly. My 2xl is working fantastic and no current phones really give me that special feeling. Patiently waiting for pixel 4xl

1. Never used a screen protector since I got the phone October 2017. Thought I would miss it since I had been using tempered glass for years but I don't and my screen is just fine.
2. No bugs or freezes here. The only time I ever even restart is the monthly updates. Way better aging experience than my previous Nexus 5X or any other phone as a matter of fact.
3. It's stereo speakers and gets loud and clear enough. If I want louder I cast it to my any number of speaker I have around the house.
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Like the above post, same feelings here.
The screen protector dilemma is my biggest issue. Searching Amazon, it's hard to find a good one. I really don't want to purchase another one, so I've been rocking the same screen protector for quite some time, even though it's dirty. I don't watch anything on here worth quality(Netflix, Hulu, etc) and mainly use Bluetooth headphones or Bluetooth speakers.
Just recently, my father has gotten an S10 through those buy 1 and get 1 deals, but it's too complicated for him, so I've been thinking of setting my Pixel up clean for him and swapping, but it's just hard to leave Google after being with them for so long, lol.
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Before i ordered the pixel 2 xl, i read its review on gsmarena and this was quoted " overall, we're looking at some of the best audio outputs we've ever seen. " After purchase, i started seeing all sorts of negative reviews concerning it's audio quality using wired headphones.
On one hand, i am filled with excitement that i will be owning this great phone and on the other , i am confused, saying to myself, what have you just done?
As real owners of this device, i felt that this is the right place to be. Please can someone speak his mind? Thanks.
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I come back to pixel for three things
1) camera 2) software which is best among android 3) speedy update s
I hate or dislike few things
)Ear piece is of poor quality i.e low volume and call clarity is average ..it was so great on iphone xr
2) loudspeaker is not good as compare to competitors i.e s9 plus, iphone , U11 etc, p20 pro etc. Its same for audio output from headphone. I will not recommend this phone to music lovers
3) brightness is low . You really need to drag the brightness slider to maximum to make it bright especially indoor
4) design is boring but then its more practical
So i guess every phone will have its pros and cons and no phone will be perfect in every thing . I am saying this after using so many flagships and switching from one to others ..there will be always some compromise so just look what matter to you most in phone and then select phone based on those requirements