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The Cube T7 is arguably the most anticipated tablet from a Chinese brand. Not only is it the first Android tablet to feature the 64-bit MediaTek MT8752 octa-core processor, it is also the first tablet with dual 4G support – LTE & TD-LTE. Is it capable of continuing Cube’s dominant success in the category of tablets with phone functions, we are eager to find out.
Cube T7 main specs:
OS: Android 4.4
Display: 7-inch IPS, 5-point multi-touch
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200 (16:10)
CPU: 64-bit MT8752 octa-core processor (eight cores of Cortex-A53)
CPU Frequency: 1.7GHz
GPU: Mali-760MP2
RAM / Storage: 2GB / 16GB
Function: WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, GPS, A-GPS, OTG, Miracast, FM Radio
WiFi: 802.11 b/g/n, WiFi hotspot
GSM: band2, band3, band5, band8
TDS: band34, band39
WCDMA: band1, band5
TDD: band38, band39, band40, band41
FDD: band1, band3, band7
Camera: 5MP back camera, 2MP front camera
Battery: 3500mAh
Extend Port: TF Card Slot, SIM Card Slot, Micro USB Port, 3.5mm Headphone Jack
Weight & Size: 280 g / 192*113*9.3mm
Design and build
The main design element is the size of the tablet, as the T7 is the first high-end 7-inch tablet we have seen from Cube. It's almost like holding a phone because the device is so small and slender – holding it one-handed is a breeze. The silver frame looks great and we like the rounded curves of the cover.
The device doesn't have a metal rear cover like those bigger flagship tablets from Cube, instead it has a delicate plastic rear cover which matches that of the iWork 7. This may not look quite as impressive but provides much better grip.
Like other 3G and 4G tablets from Cube, the T7 has the minimum number of ports and buttons. The only physical controls you'll find are the power/lock key and the volume rocker switch on the right hand side of the slate (when held in portrait). The 3.5mm headphone jack and Micro SD card slot are on the top side of the tablet, while the Micro USB port is located on the bottom side, as the T7 is a tablet which has full phone functionalities, there is also a SIM tray slot on the right side.
It is obvious that Cube has already given up on the SIM tray lock design we’ve seen on its previous higher-end 3G tablets, which requires the users to use an awkward removal tool to pull out the SIM tray, and now leaves a more convenient opening for us to be able to pull out the SIM tray with our own fingers.
The tablet weighs 280g, not much heavier than many of the large phones, long period of one-handed operation wouldn’t be much of a problem. However, at 9.3mm, it isn’t a slim tablet by today’s standards.
It's hardly a game changing design, but it is functional and we've seen many worse looking tablets in our time - we're just pleased Cube hasn't gone bezel crazy here. There's just enough to hold the T7 without fingers encroaching on the screen, and that's all we ask for.
Excellent build quality has been maintained with no signs of unwanted gaps in the casing or wobbly buttons. The only thing we can really mark it down for is a lack of premium materials such as aluminum, but that also comes down to personal preferences.
Display
The Cube T7 sports a 7-inch display at an impressively-high 1920x1200 resolution, and we would've been delighted. But not only do we now have a delightful 323 pixels-per-inch IPS display to look at, it's also a really great panel overall.
Compared it down next to the lower-end models such as the Talk 7X Octa, the T7 is notably brighter, has higher contrast and is of course more crisp thanks to the Full HD resolution. The "gapless" display technology used here makes images appear to float on the surface.
In everyday use, the display looks fantastic no matter what we're using the T7 for. Text and images are clean and easy on the eyes, and color reproduction is as accurate as leading LCD panels out there. Tablets are more likely to be viewed by multiple people at once, it's also important to note that the display doesn't distort images or wash out at even obscure viewing angles.
We tried to use the T7 outdoors, and the glass-covered display still performed quite well, aside from some unwanted glares.
Only when we laid the T7 side by side with some flagship smartphones and tablets (The iPhone 6 Plus and Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4) did we begin to notice some weaknesses of the 7-inch display – the color temperature was a little bit too warm, the black is not too deep, etc.
With that said, it is still the best 7-inch screens we've ever laid eyes on, period.
Sound
The T7 rear-facing speaker is very loud, but tinny. It is acceptable for streaming clips on YouTube, but you would want to plug in your headphone for music and action movies.
System & UI
The T7 runs Android 4.4.4 out of the box. Customizations have been made to some of the icons, other than that, you have the pure feel of Android Kitkat.
Performance
The Cube T7's beauty is more than skin deep: its 64bit MT8752 octa-core processor, coupled with two full gigabytes of RAM, is an agile performer.
Benchmarks
You can spend a day sifting through benchmarks, which tend to place the T7’s performance notably higher than the Nexus 7’s and the LG G Pad 8.3’s, or you can simply spend a few hours using the device. It’s fast, it’s capable, and it’s powerful. This is one of smoothest experiences I have ever had on an Android tablet, period.
Apps and Browser
We did have a few performance hiccups and just one hot reboot while testing every app we could think of, which is expected on pretty much any mobile devices you use today. And I believe it was more of a problem of the Android ecosystem other than the processing power the T7 could bring to the table. Other than a couple of app freezes, the T7 was surprisingly stable, most apps worked quite ideally on the slate.
Browsing webpages on a 7-inch display is definitely better experience than always trying to zoom and drag on your phone, the T7 remained pretty responsive even while we were opening dozens of image-heavy websites at the same time.
Multimedia
Cube's own video app as well as the Google Play apps are on board. Cube's video app is clean and simple; it doesn't muck around with extra features like ifive's apps do, for instance. The tablet had no problem playing video up to 1080p in various formats, including H.264, MPEG4, WMV, and even an MKV file with high-quality audio. The tablet also had no problem with a range of audio formats including MP3, AAC, and WMA.
If you are not used to keeping media files in your tablet, you can always turn to YouTube for tons of videos online.
There's no video out; if you want to show video on a TV, you'll have to do it wirelessly through Miracast with the aid of something like a Netgear Push2TV adapter. Because there's generally a line of sight between your tablet and the TV, I saw perfectly smooth video streaming over Miracast.
Gaming
The T7 features the Mali-760MP2 GPU, which is powerful enough to run even the most graphic-intense games from the Android ecosystem. And I haven’t experienced any lags or hiccups in playing the games that I normally play on my Snapdragon 800 powered LG Optimus G Pro2.
Connectivity
The T7, like other tablets from Cube’s Talk series, is a tablet with full phone functionalities. That means, besides Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, you also have features such as GPS, FM Radio, Phone call functions, SMS and mobile data access. What really sets the T7 apart from other 3G or 4G tablets is that the T7 is the first tablet ever to support both 4G LTE and 4G TD-LTE, with only one SIM slot.
Because of the T7’s relatively small footprint, holding it to your ears to make a phone call isn’t going to be too awkward, although it still looks a little bit strange.
OTA Upgrade
The T7 is one of the few Chinese tablets which support OTA upgrade, which makes firmware update much easier for users. During my three weeks with the T7, it already received three wireless upgrades. Although I barely noticed any differences after each update, but kudos to Cube for assuring us with its ongoing after-sale services.
Battery
Likely for reasons of weight and thickness, the T7's only packs a 3500mAh non-removable battery, which is less capacity than most higher-end 7-inch tablets on the market. With a high-resolution and extremely bright display and a faster processor, we were initially quite worried about the T7’s battery life, but the test results and the experiences in daily use changed our minds.
In our standard cngadget battery test, which entails looping a video at half-brightness with the normal amount of background actions running (i.e., push email, Twitter syncing, WiFi/GPS enabled), places theT7 at 7 hours and 33 minutes, which ranks in the middle of our list in standardized testing. That's pretty much on par with the run time we got from LG's G Pad 8.3 and the Colorfly G808 3G. In actual usage, too, the T7 lasted through a weekend with light to moderate use. So, unless you plan to sit and stream movie after movie, you should be satisfied with its longevity.
Cameras
I’m all for ignoring a tablet’s camera, as after all, it’s probably the device’s least-functional component. But I know there are people actually having fun taking pictures with tablets, I’ve seen that a lot in China. The T7 has a 5-megapixel rear camera and a 2-megapixel front camera, both of which are not bad. The front camera is fine for video chatting, and the main camera is sharp, when you have good lighting. It records smooth 720p videos and takes nice pictures. The stock camera app also has some useful features, like night mode and HDR.
With that said, they are still just tablet cameras, so don’t expect anything extraordinary, below are some samples:
Conclusions
The T7 represents not only how far Cube has come over the past few years, but also how much Chinese Android tablets have grown. Just two years ago, Cube, along with many other Chinese manufacturers, was still making tablets with not much more functionalities than a blown-up MP4 player; today, they’ve released some of the best Android tablets on the market. And that’s saying a lot in December 2014— the dark days of oversized, bogged down Android tablets are behind us, and we finally have a market filled with capable, gorgeous tablets. Android tablets are finally useful, supplementing your smartphone with a device large enough for books, magazines, movies and games, yet small enough to through in your bag, and the T7 is the cream of the crop.
I’ve never met a Chinese Android tablet that’s more capable, more gorgeous, or easier to use. Its lightweight and delicate design is the ideal balance of size and portability, and that 7-inch display is simply stunning. The 64-bit octa-core processor and 2GB RAM easily generate enough power to smoothly run any Android applications, no matter how demanding they might be.
A lot of Chinese manufacturers can call 2014 a good year, as many were revitalized by Intel’s ambitious invasion in Shenzhen and Microsoft’s free Windows 8 authorization for smaller tablets. But for Cube, 2014 was great. It found itself on top of the second-tier Chinese brands, after years of stumbling and trying to find its way into the public eye. Today, the company is producing several of the best Android tablets on the market. Will it become as financially successful as Xiaomi and Meizu? Probably not. But cheers to Cube for fighting the good fight. .
Pros
• Nice design and build quality
• Lightweight and durable
• Perfect size and footprint
• Top-of-the-line display quality
• Full phone functionalities
Cons
• The camera is still very much a tablet camera
• Lacks the premium feel of flagship tablets
Thanks for that great review. I am waiting for mine coming in the mail in the next few days. I bought it online for $221 canadian and cant wait to see if it is as good as they say cause i am gonna use it as my daily driver as a cell phone and a tablet. At 38737 antutu score it should be very impressive for a tablet compared to my Samsung Galaxy Mega (which is running perfect on megafire), but when it comes to screen size and performance, I am just like a kid with icecream
I got this from cube before Christmas. Very nice capable tablet, wifi great, calls great and 4g great on dan and phil unlimited Internet sim.
Tried framaroot to root no joy, tried vrooot apk now known as iroot but no joy.
Hopefully vroot standalone pc root app can root it tomorrow.
Hasn't restarted on me yet and cant see any bugs yet.
Volume nice and loud on tab and gaming/showbox/chromecast good(beta screencast good quality but not as good as a certified device)
Excellent brightness levels.
Cams a bit weak in low light due to noise but manufactures still haven't addressed that problem yet bar z3.
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Cant root t7 either
Tried oneclickroot
Root genius
iroot formerly vroot
Kingo root too
Doomlord please help I'll send ya my tablet to root if you fancy a challenge
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Cube T7 root
serialkillazzs said:
Cant root t7 either
Tried oneclickroot
Root genius
iroot formerly vroot
Kingo root too
Doomlord please help I'll send ya my tablet to root if you fancy a challenge
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Hi, I have oficcial rooted firmware for this tab, so if you want to get it - send me message, and I'll give you download link
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Good tablet.
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Hi, I have oficcial rooted firmware for this tab, so if you want to get it - send me message, and I'll give you download link
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Link?
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Hi,
I bought a cube t7 can you send me the link to root it ?
I think it can help to solve memory use fin application. To use sd card go install application
Do you observe that application are install in Internal memory, and they have a stock memory too.
So rapidely t7 are out of memory to install app, i thing it's strange...
Have you an idea ?
Well if you have a tuto to root the cube t7 thanks a lot !
Best regards, Ludovic
I've already bought a cube t7 ,
is it possible to be rooted?
2GB Internal memory isn't enough ...
I did flash the russian rom floating around, and DID get root (and 4Gb of app storage compared to the original 2).
Slight problem is that it killed any connectivity (sim recognised, but red x over signal bar and no voice or data connection, tested with a few other sims). When trying to fix it by reflashing the original rom, root was gone (logical) but still no signal. Went a bit experimental after that, and managed to brick the poor thing... Oops.
Morale of the story, great hardware but maybe the waiting game is better on that one.
Magnetometer does not work.
The magnet field sensor does not work in my tablet Cube T7.
Because of that many other sensors do not pass their tests,too.
They are: orientation,rotation, gravity, linear accelerometer.
Please tell me guys - is that problem of my tablet or your magnet sensors don't work as well?
Thank you in advance.
I had seen this about sensors on another thread, and therefore tested mine. They DO work in real life, but somehow are not seen as working by testing apps.
Magnetometer does not work for me in real life, too.
I installed 2 "compass" softwares and these compasses did not rotate at all.
Well, I'm getting my second one tomorrow, and I'll check this one too, and will report back. I hope it's a fluke, I know it's an odd piece of kit but it feels perfect for my needs, would hate to see it that flawed.
Thank you, I will wait your report but please take in consideration -
I did not test magnetometer when tablet arrived with firmware v1.1.
I updated it by air to version 1.4 and only then noticed that problem.
So please check it twice - before and after firmware updates, if you can.
Thank you!
Ok, I will, and you make a good point, as I said earlier trying to install a rooted rom killed the modem, so 1.4 might killed the magnetometer. Though that review seems to have the same problem as yours (too new to post external links, it's a german gizchina test.)
I read that v1.3 makes proximity sensor not working well.
But proximity sensor could be re-calibrated from engineering menu.
I made such re-calibration successfully. I found nothing about magnetometer there.
Well, we'll see. Is the absence of a compass such a big deal for you? Will you use it as a tablet or a phablet? Because I can't see the point in the former, unless you use it as in car navigation.
Hi All,
First review so please be kind. I have also posted this at Mod Edit: Link removed.
HomTom HT10 - The eyes have it?
HomTom is a brand who are trying to make a name for themselves by releasing devices at a low price point with interesting features. In reality, HomTom is a subdivision of DooGee so there is shared experience in making decent devices at a reasonable price. I've owned a few lower spec DooGee phones in the past and have found them reasonable given the price tag so will be interested to see how the HomTom HT10 can make a name for itself with a top end set of specifications.
Key Spec:
SoC MediaTek Helio X20 10 Core
CPU 2 x 2.3GHz, 4 x 2.0GHz, 4 x 1.4GHz
GPU Mali T880, 700MHz
RAM 4GB, 933MHz
Storage 32GB + SD Slot
Screen 5.5 inch, 1920x1080, 401ppi
Camera Rear: 21MP, Front: 8MP
Battery 3200mAh
The HT10 is touted as coming with the same Iris Recognition technology that the ill-fated Samsung Note 7 utilised.
Unboxing
The HT10 comes in a plain dark blue box with HomTom branding and with slight wood effect. Opening the box reveals the phone, charger and cable. You don't get any headphones in the package which I'm fine with but the overall impression of the packaging seems a little dated.
A tab reveals a 'secret drawer' containing a wood-effect flip case, and very rudimentary and superfluous instruction booklet.
The flip case actually replaces the removable back cover so doesn't add a great deal of extra weight or size to the HT10 which was a nice touch, though the front is just a simple flap, there is no magnetic magic to keep it shut. final point to note is that this had a screen protector installed which is a bonus.
On the whole a rather boring retail box, I'm not swayed by such things but may be pretty underwhelming for some.
Hardware
Looks-wise the HT10 reminds me of my old Samsung Galaxy S2. A fairly inoffensive shape, with an array of sensors and notification LED at the top and off screen buttons at the bottom.
The first major whinge here is that the buttons are not back-lit, in this day and age this is only excusable in the cheapest of budget phones and certainly at this price point, for a manufacturers top device this is a total no no.
On the top of the phone is a trusty 3.5mm audio jack, and at the bottom we find a standard micro-usb port, 2 speaker grilles and the microphone. On the right side is the power button and volume control.
The screen features the now obligatory '2.5d' glass curving at the edges, and is a decent size though there is a slight element of cheating as there is probably 1mm of black space around the viewable screen meaning that the visible bezels are artificially small.
The rear of the phone has the camera, another microphone and a single LED flash. Again that is a little disappointing as the standard for a top spec phone these days is to have dual-LED flash at least. The back panel is removable and rather cheap feeling plastic, but there are no creaks or areas which depress under pressure.
The sides of the phone are made from metal and look nice - mainly matte silver with a beveled shiny edge. The power/volume buttons seem to have a little lateral play though and could perhaps be slightly better sized to give a more premium feel.
In terms of look and feel I think HomTom have done a reasonable job here. Nothing groundbreaking or uber premium, but it looks and feels nice enough.
Software
The HT10 runs a skinned version of Android 6.0 which seems to be called HomTom Fire. This has inexplicably altered some of the generic Google App icons, such as Play Store and Maps, and as per the majority of import phones does away with the App Drawer in favour of having all apps accessible from the main screens. Though this is what any iPhone user has to deal with, many Android users find this a difficult concept to deal with, but a solution would be to use a third party launcher such as Google Now or Nova. The other option of course is just dealing with it!
There is not a great amount of bloatware on the device which is refreshing, and the majority of what's there can be uninstalled anyway.
Display
I was impressed with the display HomTom have provided for the HT10. Everything looks crisp and clear. The screen is capable of going very bright and I had it set on auto-brightness defaulting to around 40%, and had no issues both at night or in bright sunlight. I could find no evidence of light bleed on my unit which you might expect from a 'budget' device.
Performance
This is where the HT10 really excels. The HT10 comes out very well against more established flagship phones using the main benchmark apps.
Geekbench results below.
Device - Single Core - Multi Core
Oneplus 3 - 1698 - 4015
HT10 - 1655 - 3298
Huawei Nexus 6P - 1212 - 2848
Antutu results below.
Device - Score
Huawei Honor 8 - 94164
HT10 - 87631
Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge - 81087
What this shows us is that the HT10 benchmarks very well against phones that are more than twice the price. The Helio X20 SoC that powers the device definitely seems to hit the sweet spot, and we can presume that it's just the Mali GPU that is hindering the scores, but this shouldn't make too much difference if you're not a hardcore gamer
Obviously statistics don't really tell the full story but I've had no issues whatsoever in daily operation of the HT10. I can run all the apps I want with no discernible slowdown.
Iris Recognition Unlocking
Of course the elephant in the room that I've not discussed as yet is the HT10's USP, the 'Second Generation Iris Recognition Unlocking'. What this means in reality is that to unlock the phone you press the power button, then look at the screen. A small window opens up to show you what the iris recognition camera can see, and will tell you to move closer or further away if required. The iris recognition function was present in the top end Lumias released last year, but they were hardly big sellers, and the less said about the Galaxy Note 7 which also has this feature the better.
Apparently iris recognition is much more secure than fingerprint scanners, though I thought fingerprints were unique so I'm not really sure why the wheel needed to be reinvented. The iris recognition works perfectly well in standard light and even darkness, but is very flaky in even moderate sunlight outside. If the iris recognition is unable to match, you are reverted to the standard pin unlock, however irritatingly you still need to confirm the pin meaning an extra screen press when most devices now will unlock automatically after a the right pin is input.
Another annoyance is that the iris unlock takes precedence on the 'unlock screen', so if you are used to your music app telling you what song is playing on this screen you will need to unlock the phone in order to see this.
Overall, this feature is not a disaster, in fact it is certainly pretty cool and definitely (mostly) unique thing to have. I just wish it worked a bit better, and remain to be convinced that it in any way improves on fingerprint unlocking.
Camera
Unfortunately even though the camera in the HT10 (IMX230 Exmor RS) is the same as the one in the best camera phone I've ever owned, the Honor 7, the results from the HT10 were patchy to say the least.
In a well lit situation I could get some of the best photos I've ever got from an 'import phone' (though still miles away from the Honor 7's quality), but as soon as the lighting conditions were less than perfect the photos suffered massively.
In low light both inside and out photos had very poor detailing, with a flattening of features and a watercolour effect.
Hopefully HomTom will be able to resolve this with a software update, as well as the annoying bug which caused the LED flash to activate all the time in auto-flash mode, even in bright sunlight.
If anyone can advise the best way for me to share images I will do this
Other features
Battery life on the HT10 is pretty good. While I'm no power user I managed to get through every day with plenty to spare, at worst I managed to get it down to around 40%, but through general internet/app use and listening to music you'll have no issues at all. The device does apparently feature 'Pump Express' fast charging, but in reality I found it quite slow to charge the 3200 mAH, it took about 3 hours to complete a full charge from flat, though this may be because the charger supplied was not UK spec so I had to use a different one.
Connectivity is fine, I had no issues with my wireless speeds or range, and could get 4G everywhere that I'd expect. The HT10 is touted as a 'Global 4G' phone so all in all the connectivity gets a thumbs up. Bluetooth connected quickly and worked fine in my car for both music and phone functionality.
GPS worked absolutely fine both driving and walking. MediaTek phones have caused me a lot of woe in the past due to poorly performing GPS so they have clearly upped their game.
Music sounded fine through headphones. The loudspeaker is a little flat for music and could be louder for calls but even still it is acceptable.
Conclusion
Taken as a complete package the HT10 really does take some beating for the price. The Iris Recognition seems slightly pointless, and the camera performance isn't anywhere near flagship standard, but in every other area the HT10 performed well, so much so that it has become my 'daily driver' when not reviewing other devices.
Score: 8.5/10
Price when reviewed £199
Review sample kindly supplied by those lovely chaps at LightInTheBox. Head over to Mod Edit: Selling site link removed. for the cheapest price available!
Got myself a HT10 and I agree in your conclusion, but I experienced some touch freeze and poor LTE reception from time to time.
I really hope they fix the camera software asap. The quality is a deal breaker as for now, but the videoquality is strangely very good.
Thanks for the comment.
I've had one occasion where an area of the screen seemed to be unresponsive but this was resolved with a restart. I've not had any 4g problems but am in built up areas most of the time.
The camera performance is the biggest issue and if not resolved would be the one thing that turns me off this device, fingers crossed that it can be solved by an update.
recently bought the Ht10 super great phone feels amazing but i cannot get it to connect to verizons network to call, text or browse any ideas on how to get it working
My main complaints with the HomTom HT10
HARDWARE ISSUES
compass isn't available
NFC isn't available (it was advertised but removed!)
OTG isn't available (it was advertised but removed!)
network reception is bad (3G/4G)
Wi-Fi reception is bad (3G/4G)
not detecting/connecting 5Ghz Wi-Fi networks
audio speaker quality (distortion and not enough bass)
battery losing energy way too quickly
camera quality is bad on low light situation
SOFTWARE ISSUES
- battery saving mode is too aggressive (cannot easily modified for a bunch of Apps)
languages preferences are lost if IDLE or turned off (if you set french language it will comeback later to Netherlands. it could be because Belgium country has multiple official languages (french/nederlands/dutch) or if because the smartphone was shipped from .nl post)
- defaults apps choice in settings is too limited
- If you choose to protect your device with a password (PIN/password/pattern) for intrusion your device is going to freeze and you will have to reboot !
- hardware navigation buttons cannot be modified / edited
- HomTom OS is much less complete than MIUI8 (or even UMI OS)
MAJOR MISC PROBLEM:
There is no official forum to post bugs reports !
There is no updates or fixes for those issues announced.
There is no tutorials yet to flash/root.
Yes, same problem here....
Very HORRIBLE DEAL!!!
One Solution to ROOT FIND ! ! !
KingRoot apk finally works !!!
I tried this version: V4.9.7
by this file: NewKingrootV4.9.7_C152_B341_xda_release_2016_11_14 _20161115194410_105243.apk
IMPORTANT NOTE:
1) I find some bloatware that doesnt wipe out neither with a factory reset
2) the root is factoryreset resistant.
3) Some issue with Wathsapp only when sending stored images.
Best regards!
If you are happy with this please tnx me!
If you have trouble, please share!
Kingroot did not work for me
Westboy82 said:
Yes, same problem here....
Very HORRIBLE DEAL!!!
One Solution to ROOT FIND ! ! !
KingRoot apk finally works !!!
I tried this version: V4.9.7
by this file: NewKingrootV4.9.7_C152_B341_xda_release_2016_11_14 _20161115194410_105243.apk
IMPORTANT NOTE:
1) I find some bloatware that doesnt wipe out neither with a factory reset
2) the root is factoryreset resistant.
3) Some issue with Wathsapp only when sending stored images.
Best regards!
If you are happy with this please tnx me!
If you have trouble, please share!
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This method did not work for me, anyone else has any other suggestions on how to root this device?
Please double check the process, is the only way right now to root our Toilet-phone :fingers-crossed:
PS the updated version of the kingroot is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/dl/?id=22115
Hi there!
Below is adapted from my original review on gadgetvictims.com
Mi A1 is definitely a good phone for the price but the noise-cancellation bug, well know in MIUI devices is also present in this Android One version .
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Nobody was fooled by Xiaomi's efforts to explain that MI A1 is not a rebranded 5X, and it is obviously the same device (with possibly a better thermal dissipation plate for countries with hot climate, like India).
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The A1 is all about the Android One experience out of the box.
An Android One device basically complies with Google standards, which include some (unclear) minimum hardware requirements, and the provision of security and system updates by Google. The device should also receive the Oreo update around Christmas, if you've been good!
Possibly also -but I'll believe it when I see it- we can expect to get the next Android P (Pancake?) when it comes out.
Features:
5.5-inch FHD display,
Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 @2.0gHz,
4GB of RAM, and 64GB storage + microSD slot
SIM/SD tray for 2 SIM's or 1 SIM+1 microSD
Dual rear cameras:
Main: Omnivision OV12A10, 12MP, f2.2.
Second OmniVision OV13880 12MP f2.6
Front camera: Samsung S5K5E8, 5MP, f2.2
Wi-Fi ac, Bluetooth 4.2, LTE with VoLTE,
3080 mAh battery.
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: Band B1/B2/B5/B8
4G: FDD-LTE B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20 TDD-LTE B38/B40
IR blaster
Back lit soft keys
Notification LED (white)
Unpacking
The Global version comes with a standard 5V2A charger, a USB type C cable, a tray pin and the usual leaflet that nobody bothers reading.
As usual with Xiaomi, no accessories are provided. Since the Mi A1 and 5X are identical, there's already a large choice of covers and tempered glass filters to choose from.
It's curious to see a product targeted at the Indian market without any water proofing, (and that factor is equally important for Irish users). So, while the Corning Gorilla 3 should not need further protection, a phone case it always a good idea to protect at least the back side. It won't make it waterproof, but that should help a bit.
While waiting to try a smart flip case, I found the inexpensive ASLING Protective Back Cover to be a nice fit for the black version.
Setting up
The hybrid SIM tray allows either
2 SIM's together
or
1 SIM + 1 MicroSD
So if the 64GB of storage don't suffice, an additional 128GB extension is possible.
Android One experience: so simple it's boring!
The recently reviewed Xiaomi Redmi Note 5A Prime could have been my everyday phone if it wasn't for the MIUI ecosystem, but I must admit that I did enjoy taking time to fine-tune all the customization options.
The Android One experience is the opposite: You're all set just a few minutes!
The initial setup is straightforward, particularly if you had a previous Android device from which apps and settings can be restored.
After that, you're pretty much ready and there's very little fiddling around the system options, even with the System UI Tuner enabled (activated by holding the gear icon in drop down menu for a few seconds).
Suddenly I regret the absence of the wallpaper carousel, the integrated call recorder, some smart gesture options like turn the phone over when busy, or swipe down 3 fingers for screenshot, ...
I wanted a pure vanilla Android experience... I have it!
There's virtually no bloatware (only 2 Xiaomi Feedback and Mi Remote apps which can be uninstalled, at least in the Global edition). The collection of pre-installed apps is kept to the bare minimum, to the point it feels incomplete: for instance, there no FM radio app despite the presence of the hardware (which can be verified in the Hardware Test Menu *#*#64663#*#*)
That's not an acceptable solution and none of the FM radio apk's I tried worked, so it's down to Xiaomi to resolve this in a future update.
Cameras:
The A1 is really a snapper I could live with! The Omnivision sensors may not be prestigious like Sony and Samsung are, but they deliver some nice pictures, with fast focus for sharp pictures, even with HDR.
I normally avoid using the flash at all cost with a smartphone, but the dual tone LED's have proven to be usable, as seen with the shot of the white orchids below, taken in almost complete darkness.
See here for the full picture sample
The manual mode offer a good range of controls and the manual focus is particularly well thought with the assistance of a focus peaking function.
While low cost brands like Bluboo, Doogee, Oukitel, will probably never be able to use their dual camera unless Google releases a camera API supporting them, Xiaomi (and other big players like Huawei, and HTC, ...) can afford to develop their own camera software!
As a result, the A1 dual camera phones can achieve an authentic Bokeh / depth effect (enabled via the Portrait Mode icon) rather than just layer of blurred circles.
The 5 megapixel camera on the selfie side does a decent job despite the absence of a flash and offers a large collection of creative filters. The results lack the level of details offered by the selfie-centric Redmi Note 5A, but are still quite good.
Video recording: not the A1 strong point!
Videos can be recorded in SD, HD, FHD and 4K.
Slo-mo initially didn't work at all but the bug has been fixed with the September Security update.
There's no "focus hunting" problem as such, just a quick but noticeable back-and-forth move each time the focus adjusts to a different subject.
In any case, the videos fail to impress, due principally to the lack of stabilization. A post-recording stabilization can be applied afterward via the embedded editor but the result is terrible!
Adding to it, the deteriorated sound recording quality contributes further in making the A1 a pathetic camcorder.
Sound quality: very good and very bad!
(I know how it sounds but please read on!)
The very good:
Since USB Type C can also output audio, it is often a good excuse to ditch the old 3.5mm earphone jack but Xiaomi kept both! Great!
The music playback through the internal speakers or via the headphones is clear and loud enough, and Xiaomi products are usually good at this.
The very bad:
The troubles start when recording your own sound with either the camera or an audio recording app.
Although it should only be active during phone calls, the dedicated noise cancelling microphone keeps fulfilling its duty during video and audio recordings, adding a weird flanger effect while trying to cancel the "noise" surrounding the voice!
https://youtu.be/6IPtygXJbjk
I discovered this popular Xiaomi noise cancellation bug first with the Redmi Note 5A, but only after a while because my first videos where made in a quiet environment. Then I came to record a public ceremony with loud rounds of applause, and discovered that the sound track had been almost completely muted!
It's quite a bid deal to me as I like to record some excellent bands performing in local pubs. In such typically loud environment, that bug is disastrous!
I hoped that it was confined to MIUI but the A1 is not spared and the bug is so widespread that it's becoming a Xiaomi trademark!
Until Xiaomi eventually acknowledge and fix the problem, I'll have to use other ways for that kind of task (like an Android watch, they make excellent sound recorders).
Battery life, Encryption and Performance
Embarking a 3050mAh battery would have been probably presumptuous with a Mediatek processor, but with a Snapdragon 625 it's a different story.
I could stretch it up to 48 hours of mixed use on a single charge, taking pictures (a lot), playing video games (a little) and watching videos. Of course this varies with each other lifestyle but most users should comfortably achieve a full day without having to keep an eye on the battery indicator.
In this Global Edition, the accompanying charger is a standard 5V2A and the phone definitely does not support Quick Charging.
In any case, it takes 2 hours to fully charge the battery.
The phone storage is encrypted by default, but this had no visible impact on performance when launching apps.
I can't think of an app that would give hard time to an 8-core 2016MHz processor with 4GB RAM.
Some benchmark scores:
Antutu: ~63000,
Geekbench 857/4167
Generous set of sensors, but no NFC
The list of sensors is quite complete with magnetometer, accelerometer, gyroscope, step detector, and Hall (for smart covers).
The fingerprint sensor is lighting fast just as expected after trying the lower range Redmi 5A. It also conveniently double as a way to scroll down the notification bar.
The picture below should tell enough about the GPS, no surprise.
Screen
The bright and vibrant [email protected] is protected by a Gorilla Glass 3.
It feels very smooth and does not keep the fingerprints too much.
The viewing quality and contrasts are very good but maybe I'm not the best judge as I felt the same with the HD-only screen of the cheaper Redmi Note 5A.
There's still a good 1.5cm at the bottom of the screen just dedicated to the soft keys, which is a bit old-fashionish in this bezel-less era, but at least they're back lit.
IR Blaster: (and yes, this is a copy/paste from my previous review)
The A1 can be used as an IR remote controller. The native Mi Remote application mostly supports the smart home devices from Xiaomi but also some popular brands of TV and set top boxes. However I could not get it work with any device, even my LG TV.
As an alternative, I've installed "Universal TV Remote" from Twinone which works great, even with my old X10 IR relay.
Conclusion
According to a poll on miui forum, the preference between the 2 models is evenly balanced:
Xiaomi and Google may have achieved a mutually beneficial deal with this phone by combining the quality of Xiaomi hardware and the authentic Android experience in the first convincing implementation of the Android One project.
You're it, until you're dead or I find someone better! [J. Rasczak, Starship Troopers]
None of the recently reviewed Android phones could decide me to finally put my good old Xperia Z1 to rest.
With its solid performance, large storage, latest Android and excellent camera, the A1 did this!
It is not faultless however and I'm not done with Xiaomi about the noise-cancellation bug!
The Mi A1 (like the Mi 5X) is priced around 200€.
If, like me, you want an unspoiled Android experience but are not willing to sell a kidney but still get a stable, well built phone with a great camera, this may be the Android you're looking for!
Good:
Fast and straightforward setup
Great dual camera
Notification LED
Back lit soft keys
Not good:
Noise cancelling bug
FM Radio present but app missing
Limited customization options
No stabilization for video recording
No NFC
Poptel P9000 MAX - Info & Reviews - 5.5" FHD | 4+64GB | 13+5MP | IP68 | 9000mAh
Poptel P9000 MAX
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Specifications:
Brand: Poptel
Model: P9000 Max
CPU: MTK6750V/CT
Cores: 1.5GHz, Octa Core
RAM: 4GB RAM
ROM: 64GB
Screen resolution: 1920 x 1080 (FHD)
Screen size: 5.5 inch IPS
Screen type: Corning Gorilla Glass
Back-camera: 13.0MP
Front camera: 5.0MP
Battery Capacity (mAh): 9000mAh, 9V/2A Quick Charger
Global Network: FDD-LTE,TD-SCDMA,TDD-LTE,WCDMA,GSM
TD-SCDMA: TD-SCDMA B34/B39
FDD-LTE: FDD-LTE:B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B26
CDMA1X: BC0/BC1
CDMA 1XEVDO: BC0/BC1
TDD-LTE：B38/B39/B40/B41
Wireless Connectivity: Bluetooth, GPS, GSM, NFC, WiFi
WIFI: 2.4G/5G
I/O Interface: 2 x Nano SIM Slot,3.5mm Audio Out Port, Micophone, Micro USB Slot,Speaker, TF/Micro SD Card Slot, Type-C
OTG : Yes
SIM Card Slot: Dual SIM Dual Standby
SIM Card Type: Nano SIM Card
Sensor: Geomagnetic Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Gyroscope
External Memory: TF card up to 128GB
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Official Product Page:
https://www.poptelmobile.com/product/POPTEL-P9000-MAX-1.html
Development & Support:
Coming Soon...
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Reviews:
My own review: Post #4
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Poptel P9000 Max Review
Looking great. I like it because of 9000mAH battery capacity, 5.5" FHD screen, and 4 LED light for torch. I hope you will be add the review soon.
i want to see the quality of rear camera.
I ordered this from GearBest, and it's currently in the process of being shipped to Canada. If you guys have any questions, let me know. When it arrives, I can answer them for you. I will also post my impressions later.
This phone claims to be a "tough" & "rugged" phone. And I will put that to the test in real life situations. I work out all week in the gym, and my phone routinely falls or gets exposed to water.
My last phone was the "Leagoo Elite 1". Here were my problems with my Leagoo (and what I will be looking for improvement for, in the Poptel):
I routinely listen to streaming music, watch, & download videos on my phone. After 6 hours in the gym, with this media usage, my Leagoo battery drops to 5% to 10% battery. The Poptel P9000 claims to have a long-lasting battery...so I will be excited to see excited to see if it can survive my heavy daily usage.
Apparently, both the "Poptel P9000" and my "Leagoo Elite 1" utilize "Gorilla Glass 3". This claims to be strong. But my Leagoo suffered a crack on the left side from a short accidental drop on hard surface. Through that crack, the screen messed up due to small water exposure. So right off the bat, I am a little skeptical about the P9000 glass material.
My "Leagoo Elite 1" had terrible OS glitches. If you held the home button long to bring up the task manager, the entire OS would crash. This was never fixed in the two years I had the phone. Then an even worse problem was that the Leagoo camera or background service installed a program every anti-virus flagged as a trojan. This happened after the first year after one of their updates. It was very difficult to disable, and while installed it created many performance & internet issues. Speaking of updates, there hasn't been a single one in the last year for my "Leagoo Elite 1". So I will see how much Poptel supports their phone. But I am not so confident, because I looked at their FaceBook page, and it seems PopTel is already releasing a new phone...so I am worried they may stop supporting the P9000.
Poptel P9000 Max Quick Review
I am writing the review just after receiving the Poptel P9000 Max Orange version.
It’s available in three colors: Green, Orange, and Black. Let’s start, what I got in the box?
Unboxing
The Poptel P9000 max comes with a lot of accessories. The box is containing the phone, User Manual, Warranty Certificate, USB Type-C cable, OTG Type-C cable (Also for Reverse Charge), 9V/2A Quick Charger and screen protector. The earphone is here in the box too.
Design
Starting from the design, good use of rubber and plastic to protect the phone from shock and drop. The device feels really solid, probably one of the best-rugged phones in the price category, and overall the build quality is decent. Being a rugged phone, it isn't possible to expect the most compact device. Due to the huge battery and body cover with multiple layers of rubber, I feel it cumbersome and bulky (16.80 x 8.30 x 1.70 cm / 6.61 x 3.27 x 0.67 inches approximately for weight 320g); although heavy it seems to be balanced in handling.
On the front side, Poptel adopts 5.5-inch FHD 1920 x 1080p resolution, the glass uses Corning 3rd generation gorilla. The upper front side of the device features a Front-Facing Camera, an Earpiece, and the Sensors hole that includes Light and Proximity Sensors. As regards the lower front side, there isn't anything at all except a nice-looking Poptel logo, primary microphone, and type-c port. On-screen keys are used here.
The upper back side of the device features a big camera sensor and 4 high LED lights. On the right side of the LED lights, there is a little hole that seems to be for the secondary microphone. The fingerprint sensor located just below the LED lights. On the lower back side, there isn't anything at all except a stereo speaker grills and some words about the device protection certification.
On the right side of the phone, there is Volume up and down buttons. Another button located on the right side is for direct open the torch or use it as a camera shutter.
On the left side of the phone, there is one button for On/Off the device and card slot.
There is an audio port located on the top of the phone.
On the bottom of the phone, there is USB-Type C port.
Screen:
The Poptel P9000 Max adopts 5.5-inch FHD 1920 x 1080p resolution, As regards the screen, it is just perfect. It’s Bright enough for a decent outdoor usage. I found it pretty good, with excellent color accuracy and an overall nice viewing experience.
Camera:
An outdoor phone needs to be a great camera. Thanks, Poptel for not adding the fake dual camera. Its equipped with a 13MP camera, the manufacturer of the camera not mentioned. The autofocus works quickly, on-screen shutter button and physical button both work very quick. The pictures are usually sharp, the colors look natural and the contrasts are also great. Even in Low light, the Poptel can still deliver great images. It has a 5MP Front camera for a selfie.
Very good in daylight / good light, but in low light, you can't get the result.
Hardware:
It’s powered by MTK6750V octa-core processor; it can run at the rate of 1.5 GHz. With the support of the 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM, and a Mali T860 GPU, the processor can perform every task smoothly. That’s mean you can watch HD videos and play heavy games without any problem.
Battery:
As we know that, outdoor phone need to have a big battery with quick charger and it is a vital part of the rugged phone. Poptel p9000 max has 9000mAH battery with 9V/2A charger.
Software:
Poptel chooses to use a pure Android OS for this device. It runs on Android 7.0 Nougat with May 2018 security patches and no bloatware pre-installed. The OS feels smooth.
Audio:
Poptel added one stereo speaker system which provides pretty high and decent sound quality. It has Minor distortion at maximum volume. Overall there is no major problem in the audio section.
IP68 certification: it has IP68 certification that means it can survive in water, dust, and unexpected drop.
OTG: its supporting OTG function and it can charge your Android and IOS devices
Sensors: if we talking about the sensors than Poptel P9000 Max comes with all important sensors like an Ambient Light Sensor, E-Compass, Geomagnetic Sensor, Gyroscope, Proximity Sensor.
NFC: Thankful to Poptel for adding NFC on the device.
GPS: Excellent GPS result, too many satellites with strong signals I got outdoor and indoor as well.
Product Link: https://www.poptelmobile.com/product/POPTEL-P9000-MAX-1.html
Coming SOON
Detail Cameras result, Battery life, GPS, mobile network and wifi, Antutu Benchmark
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Where are the SIM cards located and what size are they? What is/are the best US major carriers that support the phone? I have Red Pocket right now, paid like $220 for 365 days of service (5 GB data unlimited text/calls) using a Moto G5+. The P9000 would be to replace this phone. The card slot on the side is for a microSD card? - if so what is the max capacity it can handle? I went to the product page and these question are not answered there.
Thanx in advance!
Manual?
Anyone have a link to an owner/user manual, preferably in English. Scary part to me about this phone is support. Nor sold yet but I am really wanting this phone.
samileo31 said:
An outdoor phone needs to be a great camera. Thanks, Poptel for not adding the fake dual camera. Its equipped with a 13MP camera, the manufacturer of the camera not mentioned. The autofocus works quickly, on-screen shutter button and physical button both work very quick. The pictures are usually sharp, the colors look natural and the contrasts are also great. Even in Low light, the Poptel can still deliver great images. It has a 5MP Front camera for a selfie.
Very good in daylight / good light, but in low light, you can't get the result.
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I disagree with this evaluation.
Your samples look pretty dark & rich. As if there's too much contrast.
There was another recent YouTube review - which compared pictures from the "Poptel P9000" & the "Xiaomi Redmi 6 Pro" (at 5:00 in the video):
https://youtu.be/kT1J3kTDHto?t=298
As you can see from this comparison, it's the same problem.
The Xiaomi's photos are more brighter and cleaner looking - while Poptel's colors look overly rich & dark.
More importantly...human skin looks much better on Xiaomi's camera - whereas Poptel's camera makes human's look ugly & pimply!
samileo31 said:
Poptel chooses to use a pure Android OS for this device. It runs on Android 7.0 Nougat with May 2018 security patches and no bloatware pre-installed. The OS feels smooth.
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This is a great selling point! :good:
Coming from Xiaomi (with its custom OS that conflicts with many apps) & Leagoo (which installed a widely flagged TROJAN via their camera "beauty" app)...the fact that Poptel is providing a normal Android installation & no bloatware is much appreciated! :angel:
jpr9845 said:
Where are the SIM cards located and what size are they?
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If I recall correctly, it has a dual sim tray. You can see its location on the phone, and how the tray looks, in this YouTube video (at 3:07 of video):
https://youtu.be/wKzlbYeeOjw?t=188
jpr9845 said:
Anyone have a link to an owner/user manual, preferably in English. Scary part to me about this phone is support. Nor sold yet but I am really wanting this phone.
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Right after I ordered this phone two weeks ago, Poptel announced that they are releasing a newer model called the "P10":
https://twitter.com/poptel_global/with_replies
This is so unfair. I bought the P9000 thinking it was new...and they would at least support/upgrade it for one or two years.
Then all of a sudden, they release this new model.
What especially bothers me is that the "P9000" has Android 7...and they're saying the upcoming "P10" model will have Android 8.1.
To me, this sounds like they'll never update the P9000! :crying:
jpr9845 said:
Where are the SIM cards located and what size are they? What is/are the best US major carriers that support the phone? I have Red Pocket right now, paid like $220 for 365 days of service (5 GB data unlimited text/calls) using a Moto G5+. The P9000 would be to replace this phone. The card slot on the side is for a microSD card? - if so what is the max capacity it can handle? I went to the product page and these question are not answered there.
Thanx in advance!
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2 x Nano SIM card or (1 x Nano SIM card + 1 x TF card) slots 4GB RAM , 64GB ROM and extendable Up to 128GB Via Micro SD Card
Red Pocket GSM uses AT&T's 850 and 1900 Mhz network
Poptel P9000 Max Support following Networks:
GSM：850/900/1800/1900
CDMA1X：BC0/BC1
TD-SCDMA:B34/B39
WCDMA:B1/B1/B4/B5/B8
CDMA 1XEVDO:BC0/BC1
TDD：B38/B39/B40/B41
FDD：B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B20/B26
jpr9845 said:
Anyone have a link to an owner/user manual, preferably in English. Scary part to me about this phone is support. Nor sold yet but I am really wanting this phone.
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User Manual is in different languages. Please, you can ask questions here.
thanks
jaibubwan said:
I disagree with this evaluation.
Your samples look pretty dark & rich. As if there's too much contrast.
There was another recent YouTube review - which compared pictures from the "Poptel P9000" & the "Xiaomi Redmi 6 Pro" (at 5:00 in the video):
https://youtu.be/kT1J3kTDHto?t=298
As you can see from this comparison, it's the same problem.
The Xiaomi's photos are more brighter and cleaner looking - while Poptel's colors look overly rich & dark.
More importantly...human skin looks much better on Xiaomi's camera - whereas Poptel's camera makes human's look ugly & pimply!
This is a great selling point! :good:
Coming from Xiaomi (with its custom OS that conflicts with many apps) & Leagoo (which installed a widely flagged TROJAN via their camera "beauty" app)...the fact that Poptel is providing a normal Android installation & no bloatware is much appreciated! :angel:
If I recall correctly, it has a dual sim tray. You can see its location on the phone, and how the tray looks, in this YouTube video (at 3:07 of video):
https://youtu.be/wKzlbYeeOjw?t=188
Right after I ordered this phone two weeks ago, Poptel announced that they are releasing a newer model called the "P10":
https://twitter.com/poptel_global/with_replies
This is so unfair. I bought the P9000 thinking it was new...and they would at least support/upgrade it for one or two years.
Then all of a sudden, they release this new model.
What especially bothers me is that the "P9000" has Android 7...and they're saying the upcoming "P10" model will have Android 8.1.
To me, this sounds like they'll never update the P9000! :crying:
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Stay Tuned for the News of P9000 Max updates.
hi
im looking forward for the
1. root & recovery ...
2. the suitable audio like viper & dolby atmos
3. the original rom link
thanks for sharing
some info about the fact
http://bollywoodvivs.com/unlock-bootloader-poptel-p9000-max/
seems too bad support around !
found that the device compass not show correctly the right direction eg west/east !!
how to solve this ?
What is the status on rooting this phone? The bootloader is definitely unlockable (I just unlocked mine) but before I try anything else I wanted to check on experience with root.
Guys, I am having a crazy experience with this phone. :crying:
So a few days ago, this phone was delivered.
And now I discover the audio jack is defective :crying:.
When I asked them for help on FaceBook, they gave me a strange response.
So I own "Xiaomi Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro".
I bought this from Amazon, and it works in ALL devices I ever tried (laptops, phones, PS4, etc.).
But the support guy from Poptel told me it wouldn't work in their phone because "P9000 MAX can only match the headphone of 18MM pin".
I never heard of such a thing, so I asked for more information in a follow-up.
They responded: "3.5mm jack is ok, but the length shoud be 18mm".
I listen to music all day, and love Xiaomi headphones. And they tell me it doesn't work with their phones.
Okay, I thought, let me just use their stock headphones.
Then today...even their stock headphones stop working!
It's clearly a defective hardware issue. Something is wrong with their audio port.
So now is the big test. I asked them for help tonight.
If you are curious about Poptel's customer service...stay tuned.
I will let you know how they respond...hopefully, they have good customer service. :good:
Poptel P9000 Max ROM
https://mega.nz/#!KDpAACjb!XWSKLbwBdJg6VJm9P_2-ndB69qqj8gPjBlQNc9MbbVE
Flash Tool
https://mega.nz/#!mf5gCABD!9bktnoqDGYo82qhoDqcxSBTD70IZ4dFjBEvEDiRgYcY
Drivers
https://mega.nz/#!LLo02QDJ!_v1JFpnpsZWW31hdZnZgjpQVu7OSgm21DUjLtBS4vks
who can can help & come out with root access + twrp much appreciate ... thanks
jaibubwan said:
Guys, I am having a crazy experience with this phone. :crying:
So a few days ago, this phone was delivered.
And now I discover the audio jack is defective :crying:.
So now is the big test. I asked them for help tonight.
If you are curious about Poptel's customer service...stay tuned.
I will let you know how they respond...hopefully, they have good customer service. :good:
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Hey guys! Great news! I contacted Poptel via FaceBook.
I showed them video proof of my technical problem. They gave me no trouble.
We explored many options such as complete phone replacement or partial refund.
I chose partial refund (which was no small amount), based on typical cost for audio-port repair in my area.
This is because school was starting, and I had desperate need for a phone.
Poptel sent my Paypal account the exact amount discussed. I am now able to take my phone to a local repair shop for possible solution.
I have spent a few weeks with this phone, and set it up with lots of different media & workout apps.
I've used it for jogging and weight-lifting.
I've dropped it accidentally on hard tiles and carpet.
It lives up to its durable claims.
Later on, I will post some pictures of a great armband I found that works with this phone. It's especially useful if you use this phone outdoors & during physical activities like jogging.
The only issues I ever had was with apps. But those were app developer issues, unrelated to anything the manufacturer controls. One of the best things about this phone is the Android stock OS. This means you never have to worry that some strange OS issue is interfering with your apps. All my app problems were solved quickly after contacting developers & applying Play Store updates.
If anyone has any specific questions, let me know.
I'm a big expert in this phone now, and I can try to answer them in more detail.
But keep in mind, for me, this is more of a media device. I don't use this for phone calls.
So I can tell you more about performance & playback.
@ jaibubwan
my compass not working or show the wrong direction ! how to fix this
Got it but not sodisfied
So i rooted with magisk i wanted to try IP68 features so i put it in water 2 minutes and the phone is became crazy ..personally i think it's a fake IP68 ---
for the rest it's too heavy
NFC don't support all NFC CARD types
YOU CAN MANGE IT WITH hiSUITE (HUAWEI ) SO MEEN IT'S HUAWEI CLONE I'M TRYING TO FIND WHICH ONE WITH hUAWEI Multi-Tool 8
Hi, how did you root with magisk?
Hi, could you explain how you managed to get root access. I have tried several methods but all fail for one reason or another.
Thanks.
ashdjto said:
So i rooted with magisk i wanted to try IP68 features so i put it in water 2 minutes and the phone is became crazy ..personally i think it's a fake IP68 ---
for the rest it's too heavy
NFC don't support all NFC CARD types
YOU CAN MANGE IT WITH hiSUITE (HUAWEI ) SO MEEN IT'S HUAWEI CLONE I'M TRYING TO FIND WHICH ONE WITH hUAWEI Multi-Tool 8
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AGM G2 Guardian5G Unlocked Rugged Smartphone | Thermal Monocular Long Detection Range: 500m/yd
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Main Features
* Qualcomm QCM6490
* Long Range Thermal Monocular
* 6.58' FHD+ 120Hz Display
* 108MP Rear Camera
* 7000 mAh Battery
* Waterproof, shock and dust proof. Certified IP68/IP69K/MIL-STD-810H
* 109dB Loud Speaker
* 8/12GB + 256GB Storage
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Source: AGM Mobile Website
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5G
Band: n1, n2, n3, n5, n7, n8, n28, n41, n66,n71, n77, n78,n79
NSA: Support, Option 3x/3a
SA: Support, Option 2
MIMO: n1/n2/n3/n7/n66/n77/n78/n79 Four Downstream, Single Upstream, n41 Four Downstream, Dual Upstream
SRS
SA SRS: n41:2T4R，n77/n78/n79：1T4R NSA SRS：n41/n77/n78/n79 1T4R
HPUE: n41/n78/N79： Total Power 26dBm
EN_DC
CA
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ChipsetChipset: Qualcomm QCM6490
CPU: Kryo 670
GPU: Adreno 643
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StorageCapacity: UFS2.2, 8G+256G & 12G+256G
Expandable Storage (TF Card):Support , 512G
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ScreenSize: 6.58'
Resolution: FHD+
Refreshing Rate: 120HZ
Cameras
Pixels
108MP Rear Camera
20MP Infrared night vision Camera
2MP Macro Camera
256*192 Thermal Camera (10mm lens)
sensor: TBD
Flashlight: Support
Front Camera
Pixels: 32M
sensor
Sound
MIC: Dual-mic
PA: 3.5W Speaker
Stereo: Not Support
Motor: Support
Speaker Effect: Default algorithm
Headphone Effect: No
Speaker: AGM Iconic Speaker
Direction: Back
WLAN agreement: 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax
Battery
capacity: 7000mAh
installation method: built-in
Fast Charging: Support, 18W
Dock Charging: Support
Durability requirements
Operating temperature: -20°C~60°C
Degree of protection: IP68/IP69K/810H
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I pre-ordered the G2 Guardian and received it 4 days ago. I charged it to 100% when I received it and have not since charged it again...4 entire days of pretty heavy usage, still I have 30% battery. Just about to fill the MicroSD up with music. Hopefully by the time it's fully charged again my battery usage metrics will be calibrated and I can work on some proper usage figures for everyone.
Why did I make this purchase/ My use case:
I work in forestry in Northern Australia. It's sweaty as hell, storms develop quickly and whatever I use will get wet multiple times per week through one or the other. Overall I look after my gear with great care, but some things are unavoidable: water, dust, plant matter slowly filling all of my pockets and getting into my gear through whatever orifice is available. Much like Eels, it finds an entrance where it can. I spend much of my week smashing around in the undergrowth. Being able to wash my devices periodically is important, good quality port covers are equally important.
Another must-have for me is a battery that won't let me down. If I manage to hike to the furthest point from my vehicle within a given parcel of land then it's a major problem for me if my battery runs out and I lose the GPS track that I am running, or cannot collect the remainder of my data taking a different path back to my vehicle. My time is wasted, my sweat and exertion are wasted and I've got to climb a bunch of 35+ degree slopes back to the car for no gain. For this reason, the company iphone and ipad are in the bin where they belong. Both devices constantly let me down one way or another, neither of them are designed to do what I do, even in a lifeproof case.
To solve these issues, I ran the Ulefone Power Armor 13 for over a year. It was a great device, I customised the hell out of it but eventually I got tired of carrying a 498gram brick in my pocket. At home without a belt, it would pull my pants down. It was JUST fast enough not to annoy me, and I really enjoyed how deeply I had customised it but I became annoyed with how poor the camera could be sometimes, and with just how heavy it was, but moreso how cumbersome the form factor was and how cheap it looked and felt.
In a flash of brilliance, I replaced the Power Armor 13 with a Galaxy Xcover 6 pro. Paid outright for the device, bought a couple of spare batteries and rubber port covers for the 3.5mm and USB-C ports, and patted myself on the back for being the smartest man alive. The extra speed of the Snapdragon 778G was just what I had been looking for, the retention of an IP68 rating even with a replaceable battery and the moderately rugged construction seemed to be more than enough for my workday, and I could much more easily slip this thing into the pocket of my jeans before heading to the bar on the weekend. No more laughter when producing my phone from my pocket, no more having to explain how I could possibly need a half kilogram phone...I just looked like a normal person, with a normal life.
It lasted 2 months. I got caught in a storm, the Xcover 6 pro was in my backpack. That IP rating is not worth the paper it is written on. Not only did it fail spectacularly, I'm pretty sure it almost caught fire doing so. It got indescribably hot to the point that I knew it was absolutely dead. No amount of time spent in bags of rice would resurrect it, and after a last ditch effort trying to dry it out in direct sunlight I could see that constant exposure to heavy sweat during my work had also managed to penetrate whatever miserable water ingress protection it had. There were literal salt crystals falling out from near the battery terminals: this thing had been getting moisture past the rubber gasket whilst in my pocket for the entire 2 months I'd owned it.
At this point, Samsung can go and boil their bums. I had been a militant supporter of their Galaxy Active lineup, simply unable to understand why anyone would choose their regular lineup when the Active line existed. Once they dropped the Active I had to look elsewhere, but I was over the moon to see that they had done an xcover device that wasn't completely and utterly under powered so I caved. Fool me once... they're dead to me, and so is the possibility of me owning a 'normal' phone. It's just not going to work for me.
After drying my tears I set about scouting out a new rugged phone that would meet all of my needs without pulling my pants down. I have also recently had to start doing koala spotting again, and even though we have a $2400 thermal scope available at my office, there is only 1. I can't carry it with me all the time in case somebody else needs it, and to be perfectly honest I've found it pretty inadequate once the sun rises. Once there's sunlight on the trees it's pretty much useless, and having to peer through a monocular makes it dangerous walking through the bush. The hardware specs of the scope are so low that it is ridiculously clunky to use, and it is endlessly refreshing the sensor. I wasn't happy with it, and I always had to drive back and get it, so the presence of a thermal camera on my everyday phone became appealing. Imagine my joy when I got home to find that pre-orders for the AGM G2 guardian were just about to start. BOLD claims in the promo literature, but I decided to roll the dice.
Initial impressions of the AGM G2 Guardian after 4 days:
I had some serious trepidation about this purchase. I know that AGM have been around for 14 years or so, and I have come really close to buying several of their devices over the years. The AGM X3 was right up my alley, but for $1000USD in 2019, it was a much easier choice to grab a second hand S8 Active for a few hundred bucks.
The purchase experience through AGM's official eBay store felt sketchy. They shipped me an AU power adapter on the day I pre-ordered, marking the device as shipped. Once the adapter was delivered my buyer protection started counting down. Honestly, in spite of their constant assurances I felt like I was about to get scammed especially since I got it for such a comparatively low price as a pre-order.
I was also nervous about the price I had paid for a rugged phone made in Shenzen. Even though AGM have always positioned themselves as the premium offering in this space, often choosing absolute top of the line Snapdragon SOC's rather than poxy mediatek chips, and having a European design team for their entire range it still seemed like an awful lot of money given the competition.
As soon as I held the G2 Guardian in my hands the reason for the additional price tag compared with the competition became obvious. Even before I turned it on this thing felt TIGHT. Not a rattle in sight, and whilst the 400 grams is still very heavy for a phone, it carries the weight well and manages to feel extremely high quality, reliable and a little bit sexy all at the same time. I'm not sure how to describe this, because it's only 98 grams lighter than my Power Armor was, but I barely notice this thing in my pocket. It feels great to hold and even though I acknowledge that I am part of a very small and very weird group of customers...I think it looks cool as hell and the ergonomics are great. Everything is where you want it to be including the fingerprint sensor. Every time I pull it out of my pocket, I get that nugget feeling. It feels built to last and extremely high quality.
Once I powered it up and started going through the setup process I really started smiling. The first thing that really brought home that nugget feeling was the quality of the haptic feedback. I assume a decent quality motor combined with just how solid the body of the device is has given a fairly nice result here.
Overall an absolute 10/10 for satisfaction on the physical characteristics of this device.
Chipset
Qualcomm QCM 6490 industrial processor.
2.7Ghz, 8 cores, 6nm process. 5G, Wifi6/6E. 8 or 12GB ram.
There's not much to say here. This thing absolutely flies, and sips battery whilst it's doing it. It's faster than the competing 778G by a decent margin and has far better multithreaded performance. It also destroys even the best Mediatek Dimensity chipsets in competing rugged phones clocking in at just under 600,000 Antutu score in V9. No, it's not as fast as a snapdragon 8 Gen1, but it also won't get overly hot or need a purpose built animation to see your battery empty whilst playing games or doing demanding processing.
Display
120hz refresh rate (though I have to assume it is adaptive given the battery life and lack of manual setup options) and a very tasty 2408x1080 400ppi results in a fast, flowy and vibrant display. Let me be clear, this absolutely bashes the pants off my previous 2 phones, but I have to assume it wouldn't be in the ballpark of the latest S23 or anything like that in terms of image quality. The 120hz display is a massive bonus here, and a great implementation. I've never seen this thing lag or skip. It's a really rewarding user experience that looks and feels great and is always buttery smooth. AGM have not provided customisation options here. There's no ability to lock it to 60hz or change the resolution. Ordinarily I wouldn't be happy with this, but given the battery life and quality of experience it seems like they've dialed it in exactly where it needs to be.
Cameras
The main camera is a 108mp Samsung lens. Obviously this lens is extremely capable of taking good photos. Plenty of depth and colour, and it is extremely fast. Unfortunately the combination of a lack of image stabilization and a very basic camera app implementation lead to a lot of dud photos unless you get lucky with the natural lighting conditions being absolutely perfect. I find myself having to take 5 or 6 photos of the same scene or subject to guarantee 1 good shot. It is really reliable up-close on stationary objects, and in this use-case it seems to thrive, producing consistently good images.
There is work to do here for AGM. At present, this high-quality and perfectly capable lens is going to waste a lot of the time because the camera app is so basic. You can tell that the hardware is infinitely capable, but it is absolutely screaming for a port of GCAM or a LOT of development on their in-house app. I don't think it even has HDR at present and configuration options are extremely limited.
Front camera is a 32mp unit that provides a really smooth video calling experience, quality is good. Not sure how good it is at selfies because selfies are for children.
There's also a 20MP Sony night-vision camera. This works well, and I believe it is activated by choosing 'infrared detect' in the camera app and probably plays some role in the thermal function I guess (?).
Finally, the last 'normal' camera is a 2MP Macro Camera. This works really well for Macro shots but I have to wonder what kind of insanity led to the inclusion of a macro lens rather than a decent wide-angle sensor in an outdoor focused device. 90% of my photos on my last few phones have been taken with the wide-angle sensor and it is going to take some serious getting used to not having one. Obviously I knew this before purchase, but I miss my wide-angle lenses already.
Thermal Module
Here is the big daddy, and obviously the focal point of this device. A 10mm lens paired with 256x192 thermal image resolution and 25hz video resolution.
AGM have knocked this out of the park. With zero exaggeration, this is the best thermal scope I have ever used. I have used devices with higher thermal detector resolution (384 x 288), but even in devices that cost over $2200AUD, these sensors are paired with absolute garbage processing power. This leaves you with a really clunky user experience. These specialist devices are also often plagued with really terrible battery life, and having to hold it up to your eye is downright dangerous given the understory you are more than likely walking through if you have a use for such a device.
Combining a decent sensor and a 10mm lens with the very respectable hardware at the heart of the G2 Guardian eliminates all of the problems inherent to a standalone thermal monocular. They say the best camera is the one you have with you, and this applies double to thermal scopes. To ALWAYS have this thing available in my pocket is a massive advantage.
Thermal Range (Detection Range VS Recognition Range) and performance
I was pretty dubious of the claims made by AGM here. Well, I was wrong. At night, there is a very comfortable recognition range of around 100 to 200 metres depending on the size of the animal, and a detection range (how far out you can actually identify a heat signature is present) well over 500 metres, again, depending on the size of the object.
The thermal app interface is fast and responsive, and there is an entire galaxy of configuration options including the ability to set up your own custom thermal ribbon colour modes to suit your use. The timelapse function will be awesome for monitoring wildlife, and the analysis tools are crazy good. Both auto-focus and manual focus modes are brilliant, and I find myself wishing they had put a similar amount of effort into the main camera app.
Temperature measurement range is disappointing in the Guardian variant which I believe is only capable of 0C to 150C with accuracy. I believe this was a necessary compromise to allow such an amazing long range thermal camera experience. The G2 Pro variant does not have such impressive long-range thermal capability, but has accurate temperature measurement between -20C to 550C. This was an easy choice for me, it's far more useful for me to be able to detect an animal or heat signature at long range, than to tell the exact temperature of that object up close.
I have had a FLIR sensor previously on the very first CAT phone, and it was not even in the same universe of what the G2 Guardian is capable of. Hands down, this is the best bit of thermal gear I've ever used and I have access to several very expensive standalone units - the implementation on the G2 Guardian is genuinely impressive. They have made the jump from what is a cool gimmick on most phones, to a genuine work or hunting tool. I am blown away here.
The most impressive feature of the thermal experience is how well it works in daylight conditions. Many extremely expensive scopes are completely useless in daylight. As soon as sunlight starts to hit tree trunks, it's time to give up and go home. I'm not exactly sure how AGM have overcome this challenge, and obviously it will always work better at night or in the early morning, but even at 10am in full sun I have been able to ID animals very easily.
Firmware and customization potential
The Android implementation here is completely and utterly bloat free. The only non-google apps AGM have installed is their camera app, their thermal camera app and the AGM service app, where you can input the particulars of your device and purchase date, and submit a help or service request. There is also a third party launcher, but I never touched it - I installed Lynx launcher from my google backup before I even made it to the homescreen...i know what I like at this point.
The remainder of the UI experience is practically untouched, sharing most similarities to the latest Pixel devices including some of the fancier features including the ability to screenshot beyond the current display area of a web site, the juicy larger sized quick settings menu, extra dim mode, bedtime routines etc etc. There are extra settings menus present for the user defined key (though very basic, can't even set a vibration
I have to commend AGM here for providing such a beautiful stock android experience and not going ham with some janky over zealous skin.
Whilst I have not unlocked the bootloader or rooted this device, I have verified that flicking the OEM Unlocking switch in developer options does have the desired result, and that you are able to gain access to the bootloader via ADB reboot bootloader. This is good news for the future, with many devices from mainstream manufacturers now shipping without even the ability to access the bootloader.
It seems like there is potential here, but at present I do not have a reason to proceed any further down this path. Time will tell how well AGM support these devices long term with incremental updates but so far all they have promised is that they will provide regular Android security updates, and that their camera and thermal apps will be developed on an ongoing basis. I would not be surprised if we never see Android 13 or 14 here, but I could be wrong.
It would be a massive roll of the dice to flash a GSI or custom rom here given the amount of device specific, niche hardware. In all likelyhood, unless AGM decide to expend the resources to support this type of development in-house (and why would they?), any attempt to install a non-factory rom will result in the loss of your thermal camera, infrared camera and probably the sick flashlight as well.
At some point in the future I may attempt to root this phone but for now most of the reasons I have for doing so have already been solved in-house.
The battery optimisation and power management is absolutely killer and unobtrusive, giving an outstanding result for daily use. All of the bluetooth codecs you could possibly want are there including APT-X, APT-X HD, LDAC, AAC - so i've no need to force these in via magisk modules.
Activating the amazingly handy 100 lumen flashlight on the top of the phone via hardware key on the side is a default feature...this is one of the big reasons I usually root my phones. If they would add haptic feedback when it's activated, I'm happy and probably won't root at all.
Connectivity
3G and 4G signal reception on this device is better than anything I've owned previously. I was sweating bullets about VoLTE and VoWifi working on this out of the box because I have been completely reliant on wifi calling at home on all my other phones, which generally only manage 1 bar of cellular signal at best.
The great news is that VoLTE and VoWifi did work immediately out of the box, but given that I now have consistently better coverage with the G2 I'm less reliant on it. When it does kick in, it seems to do so seamlessly. All I could really ask for here is clear visible delineation between Wifi calls and HD voice/ VoLTE calls.
Wifi reception is also very good with very little degradation even at considerable distance from my router. Unfortunately I do not have access to 5G or Wifi6 to truly test it. On the previous 5ghz wifi standard it is easily able to hand me the full capacity of my starlink connection. Overall I feel like they really prioritized antenna location and design in this device. All of the other features are cool, but first and foremost this is a GREAT phone.
Tiny touches
AGM G2 Guardian is one of those cases where the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. I assumed the 3.5watt speaker on the rear would be a gimmick...wow. This little speaker is worth its bulge. It's loud, clear and gives even the simple act of unlocking the device some serious presence. For podcast listening when I'm out in the shed or out in the bush and don't want to risk headphones masking the early warning signs of any slithery surprises it is absolutely fantastic. For music, I own several small bluetooth speakers that do not have this quality or volume. They have tuned the output in such a way that even at max volume there is no distortion, it's just loud and clear. I thought being on the rear of the device would be a disadvantage but they've overcome this with pure power.
The torch is one of my favourite features. I'm a total torch nerd but this is one less thing that I have to worry about having on my person, and the output is more than enough for most simple tasks at night. To have this with me at all times is a huge boon, and it is a million times better than even the brightest LED flash style flashlight on most phones, and emits from the top so is much more usable.
Bluetooth implementation here is INCREDIBLE. Stability of all bluetooth codecs has been fantastic, with no skipping and fantastic range. Even on my tiny earbuds, I am able to walk to the other end of my house with no skips or disconnects. This is about 25 metres. For comparison, my xcover 6 pro would constantly skip just from facing the wrong way in my pocket, and would give me about 10 metres unobstructed in the house. That's some serious power from the AGM, and decent thought put in to location of the antennas.
Best of all, when connecting any bluetooth audio device, a quick popup appears to inform you which codec is active! This is such a great little touch that saves me jumping through 3 layers of developer options to ensure that I am actually using the codec I want when my headphones connect.
A labour of love
In one of their recent long-form videos on youtube, an AGM representative claims the Bill of Materials cost for parts and labour to bring the G2 Guardian to completion is $740USD owing mainly to the expense of the thermal module.
If this is true, this leaves AGM with a very slim profit margin on this device. It seems their motivation here is purely to grow their brand, get more AGM devices into the hands of users in this small segment of the market and really make a great device to be proud of. You can feel it.
If you have ever considered a rugged device, or are sick of destroying your expensive mainstream ones this may well be the halo product you have been waiting for. The attention to detail here is hard to put into words until you've used one for a few days.
Concerns
-Even the large RAM X-Grip can only just hold this device in a vehicle owing to the bulge on the rear. It is secure in there, but only just. If AGM were to release a purpose built vehicle mount for these, I'd absolutely buy one.
-AGM Specs on their website still claim 10W wireless charging even now. It appears that either A) this is a lie B) it uses some non-standard wireless charging standard or C) They are claiming their dock accessory as wireless charging which I suppose would technically be true...but I have not yet received my dock and seems a bit disingenuous
It turns out there is wireless charging present, it's just very difficult getting it to pick up given the shape of the rear and the thickness of the case. Presently charging at 10W after some very careful balancing. I eagerly await the charging dock!
-Thermal module is fairly exposed and picks up every smudge imagineable. This does not impact use, and I do not have any scratches yet. AGM claim hardness of this glass is very high, but I can't think of a way to protect this lens when it is not in use.
-Main camera software needs some help. As detailed previously, you can get great photos out of this hardware combo, but it doesn't happen often enough. Maybe the in-house team can pull something together, but I can't help but think it would be a better outcome to get a port of GCAM running well, and enjoy all of the software processing and HDR trickery that comes with it. I may start having a mess around here myself.
That's about it. 99% of people won't read my wall of text, but for those seriously considering this purchase I hope this goes some way to helping you make your decision.
I have used rugged devices from every major player in this space. This is by far the best experience I've had with any of them. This phone absolutely slaps.
Camera samples attached with some compression from google photos.
Daylight closeup outdoors under cover
Daylight outdoors closeup subject
Daylight indoors close-up
Daylight sneaking distance, medium size eastern grey kangaroo
Outdoors 9am daylight photography sample
Night. Termite mound in foreground. Cow approx 60m away
Night. Small kangaroo @ 70-75m
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Alright I'm off to the races.
Shamim's Gcam port opens and appears to take photos, doesn't lag. It's night here right now, but this is where I will be starting my customisation journey.
Shamim: SGCAM_8.7.250.XX.44_STABLE_V4FIX
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Have you got the gcam port working? And if so how is image quality?
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Have you got the gcam port working? And if so how is image quality?
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Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.
Okay yes I'm thinking this will be my next phone :-D Just need price to drop a bit!
bandario said:
Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.
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I'll try to get into the configs, but does gcam give it any image stabilization?
bandario said:
Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.
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Okay awesome, I'll get it as my next device and follow this thread I suggest contacting the dev from the gcam link, he can help with configs if he can ask you for files etc. Then once built just attach the apk here!
I installed "SGCAM_8.7.250.XX.44_STABLE_V5_ENG_PACKAGE" on G2 Guardian and it is working fine on the main camera and the front camera and has software based image stabilization option. However, I don't see any option for Night vision and macro cameras. May be proper config is required.
bandario said:
Yes it's working and very stable with both main camera and front camera stills + video all good.
Image quality is great but I need to figure out how to make a config file for this device, never done one before. HDR is a little too extreme on both HDR modes.
I'll put a couple of comparison images together over the weekend. That link I posted is a great base to start building from, and stability seems to be zero issues so this is already a win.
I did some up-close shots and GCAM really made them pop. Landscape stuff looking a little alien with HDR effect at present.
Anyone got a good resource for getting started with GCAM config? Seems like the hardware is fully compatible with this build so shouldn't be too many barriers.
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Thank you for the review and mentioning of GCAM software. I installed it and It has many more options then the stock AGM G2 Guardian app. Thanks
vicki20july said:
I installed "SGCAM_8.7.250.XX.44_STABLE_V5_ENG_PACKAGE" on G2 Guardian and it is working fine on the main camera and the front camera and has software based image stabilization option. However, I don't see any option for Night vision and macro cameras. May be proper config is required.
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You never will. It's a small miracle that it works out of the box with main and front cam for stills and video. To get any other lens involved would require huge input from AGM on a non-sanctioned project messing with google code. It won't happen. I'm just grateful they used standard enough hardware calls that we can build from a stable base on main cam.
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I'll try to get into the configs, but does gcam give it any image stabilization?
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Yes, AI image stabilisation standard to GCAM. To be honest I actively avoid phones with hardware OIS because vibrations when mounted to my motorbike kill the mechanism leaving me with a dead camera. I'm super happy to have GCAM fake OIS.
Thinks you for all this informations about agm guardian, I want to buy from ebay agm store, I want to ask you about zoom quality of the main camera? Can you post image and videos with zoom at least x8 or x10
samienemy said:
Thinks you for all this informations about agm guardian, I want to buy from ebay agm store, I want to ask you about zoom quality of the main camera? Can you post image and videos with zoom at least x8 or x10
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It does not have a telephoto lens. Max zoom is 8X and it looks as bad as you imagine. If this feature is important to you, buy something with a telephoto lens.
GCAM
AGM Stock CAM
It cost over 1200$ I will wait for less price
samienemy said:
It cost over 1200$ I will wait for less price
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$859USD on Ebay. AGM web shop is wild, changes price if you view it multiple times getting more expensive every time.
bandario said:
It does not have a telephoto lens. Max zoom is 8X and it looks as bad as you imagine. If this feature is important to you, buy something with a telephoto len
bandario said:
It does not have a telephoto lens. Max zoom is 8X and it looks as bad as you imagine. If this feature is important to you, buy something with a telephoto lens.
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There is an option in SGCAM to increase zoom capability. I am able to get it working up to around 35x
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To what end? At 8X it already looks like a psychedelic cartoon.