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APP2SD??

hey everyone..
i recently got my hero an have been upgrading roms back an forth, but each time i wipe to update the rom i lose all my apps.. i was wondering if anyone could please help me get app2sd installed or show me a step by step process for it.. itd help heaps an be greatly appreciated!!
thanks in advance,
brett

I need help for this altso, dont realy understand how this works?

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How to install apps from MARKET to SD card, so we dont have to reinstall them each flashing

you need root! and a custom rom (MCR2.2 or 2.3 are my faves) these have apps2sd built in.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=552591
p.s your thread should be in Q&A NOT the Dev section

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hi. i've partitioned my sd card as per the instructions on this website. prior to that, i'd installed the modaco rom version 2.2, which is meant to have apps2sd on it.
i thought that after partitioning my sd card my apps would automaticaaly get transferred to the sd card. but that doesn't seem to have happened. how do i go about making that happened. i don't want to reinstall the modaco rom, it should happen already shouldn't it?
also, where exactly is apps2sd on the modaco rom? i can't find it.

try booting your phone without the SD card in....are your apps still there?
apps2sd is built in to the rom, you dont need to run anything. It does it all by itself in the background.

thanks. I'll try that tomorrow. Before I do, just one other query. I thought that after partitioning the sd card, everything on it would get wiped. But the same folders (ther were only 2 before i partitioned it) are still there with the files in them!
which makes me think, did i successfully partition the card? there's no doubt that when i typed 'print' in the adb shell/ gparted after the partitioning process it gave a list of 3 partitions in the sd card. I basically followed the instructions to the letter. I won't be in a position to check again until tomorrow.

Just to be clear before I do something I may or may not regret, to get apps installed on the sd card, I need to partition it first, correct? Once it has been partitioned correctly, any app installations I do, say via the market, should go straight to the sd card? I'm running MCRv2.2.

Yes partition your card first. (FAT first, then EXT3 second)
they usually go to the SD card after a reboot i think.
AFAIK it is a script that is run during startup.

thanks alot for that.. i done a bit more research an have it all sorted.. cheers.. brett

good news. happy to help

as suggested earlier on this thread, i rebooted my phone without the sd card, and sure enough, all my applications/ widgets could not be loaded (except those that were already on the modaco 2.2 rom). rebooting again with the sd card in place, and everything is back to normal.
however, when looking on the sd card with astro file manager, i can't see a list of the applications anywhere. also, after connecting my phone to the computer, and then looking under 'removable disc' on my pc, i can't see the list of apps on my sd card then either.
so i guess what i'm asking is, how do you definitely know that apps2sd has kicked in. i've read on this and other forums that people have checked on their sd card and seen their list of applications. how does one do that? is what i've done above, namely booting my phone without the sd card in place and demonstrating that the downloaded apps don't work, enough proof that apps2sd has worked properly on my phone?

djdhrubs said:
as suggested earlier on this thread, i rebooted my phone without the sd card, and sure enough, all my applications/ widgets could not be loaded (except those that were already on the modaco 2.2 rom). rebooting again with the sd card in place, and everything is back to normal.
however, when looking on the sd card with astro file manager, i can't see a list of the applications anywhere. also, after connecting my phone to the computer, and then looking under 'removable disc' on my pc, i can't see the list of apps on my sd card then either.
so i guess what i'm asking is, how do you definitely know that apps2sd has kicked in. i've read on this and other forums that people have checked on their sd card and seen their list of applications. how does one do that? is what i've done above, namely booting my phone without the sd card in place and demonstrating that the downloaded apps don't work, enough proof that apps2sd has worked properly on my phone?
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You can't see them in /sdcard because that is your FAT32 partition of the card.
Apps2SD works by mounting an ext3 partition from your card, it is mounted to /system/sd/ normally I think. Have a look there with your filemanager.
The reason for having a separate partition for it is that Android requires the ability to set access rights and ownership to files for it work, and FAT32 does not support this.

if you load a linux live cd (i use ubuntu) and plug in your card reader, or mount your hero, you will see the two partitions (or 3 if you use swap).
Windows can't see ext3 partitions, but linux can, cos its great

yeah i had a look using astro file manager and went into system/sd but nothing is listed there.
anyway, now i have a whole new bizarre problem. most of my apps force close when i try to use them! for example, i open taskiller, and its fine while its running, but as soon as i select something to kill, a message pops up saying it has to force close. same with advanced task manager, shopsavvy, shazam, flixster movies and many others. i've turned my phone off and on, and rebooted a couple of times to no avail. phone calls and internet access still works fine.
all this has started since i tried booting my phone without the sd card. i've taken it out again and tried again, but still same problem. weird!

ok problem above solved! i uninstalled then reinstalled the applications, and then they work.
thanks for all your help guys.

i used to get that on my g1...un-install and re-install always solved it for me too!
happy hero'ing!

I am glad that there is a ROM that support A2SD, but i prefer to run the generic one, and if possible is there a code to make my generic pre-rooted rom A2SD abled?

I answered a similar Question a day or so ago here.... Just general stuff
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4655969&postcount=2
Dayz xxxx

I'm stumped

Hi everybody. I am trying to get my daughters phone set up. She is 20, very busy, and I only get the phone an hour or so at a time which is frustrating. I have modded my own android phones(Note, Infuse,Gnex) so I'm not a beginner, but this captivate glide is acting a little different.
Here is where I am. CWM is installed and a backup of 2.3.6 is done, and a copy saved on my laptop. I have ardatdat's 1.2 version kernel ready to flash for root and to remove the IQcarrier junk. She will probably stay on stock, rooted since she is not into teching her phone but does want to remove ads and maybe tether to a tablet occasionally on ATT without a tethering plan- tit BU and freezing or removing the tethering manager.
I am having trouble getting the phone to recognize an 8 gb sd card. I have repartitioned it so more apps can be moved over(primary fat32 and logical-ext 2) and split the card to 4gb and 4gb.(approx)- even when just left as a one partition card with 8gb fat 32 the phone just won't recognize it. I put the old 2gb card into the phone and that one is recognized but is from a non android phone- an LG xenon.
I want to put the zip files to flash on the external sd card along with a few apk's ti install with the appinstaller. But.. the phone won't see the files. Do I have to use the internal storage?????
Don't have the phone now- it's off to work with her. So I will try later tonite. Any suggestions??
Thanks. Open for any help here. I have never had this much trouble before! Have searched for sideloading apk's, but from what I am finding it has to be rooted first??? I have checked unknown sources for install of 3rd party apps and usb debugging also checked.
I will continue my hunting for info. I'm sure it's just basic stuff I'm just not seeing. Thanks again

Ah. CWM Recovery is not compatible with the external sd card, I believe. It's located under /sdcard/external_sd but the zips are invisible in the recovery. So yes, I think you have to use internal

Aquethys said:
Ah. CWM Recovery is not compatible with the external sd card, I believe. It's located under /sdcard/external_sd but the zips are invisible in the recovery. So yes, I think you have to use internal
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Thanks for that. Did not read that anywhere! Any idea about apks on the external sd card?

Ive tried that too... The apps are located in the data partition on the kernel so that is already directed to internal... The only things most people put are Media like movies because music players scan the entire /sdcard partition and the /external_sd is in it.
Hope this helped ^o^
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sashusmom said:
I am having trouble getting the phone to recognize an 8 gb sd card. I have repartitioned it so more apps can be moved over(primary fat32 and logical-ext 2) and split the card to 4gb and 4gb.(approx)- even when just left as a one partition card with 8gb fat 32 the phone just won't recognize it. I put the old 2gb card into the phone and that one is recognized but is from a non android phone- an LG xenon.
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You may need to format the sd card in the phone itself to get it to show up, some people have had problems with cards formatted in other devices or a pc.
I haven't tried a dual partition card in the Glide, but I came from a Motorola Flipside which had an absolutely tiny amount of space for apps, making link2sd and the second partition virtually mandatory. The Glide, however, has 2gb internal memory for apps, and the ~3.75gb internal memory that's mounted as /sdcard that you can store apps on with the standard Move to SD build into android, so I can't imagine anyone needing more storage than that for standard apps.
You can always points Titanium Backup to /sdcard/external_sd, my backup folder tends to get pretty big since I keep multiple backups. If she's installing a ton of games that have extra downloads to the sdcard though, you can fill up the internal "sd card" pretty quickly, and there's only a couple of ways to deal with that. She can give you the phone after installing those games and downloading the extra data, and you can manually move the data over to the external SD and create symlinks yourself, which can be tedious.
Alternatively, you can modify the vold.fstab to change the mount points, putting the real external sd as /sdcard and the internal storage as /sdcard/external_sd. There's instructions for this here. The vold.fstab method is what I personally use, as I've got a 32gb sd card and far too many games that want to download 500mb+ each.

bakageta said:
You may need to format the sd card in the phone itself to get it to show up, some people have had problems with cards formatted in other devices or a pc.
I haven't tried a dual partition card in the Glide, but I came from a Motorola Flipside which had an absolutely tiny amount of space for apps, making link2sd and the second partition virtually mandatory. The Glide, however, has 2gb internal memory for apps, and the ~3.75gb internal memory that's mounted as /sdcard that you can store apps on with the standard Move to SD build into android, so I can't imagine anyone needing more storage than that for standard apps.
You can always points Titanium Backup to /sdcard/external_sd, my backup folder tends to get pretty big since I keep multiple backups. If she's installing a ton of games that have extra downloads to the sdcard though, you can fill up the internal "sd card" pretty quickly, and there's only a couple of ways to deal with that. She can give you the phone after installing those games and downloading the extra data, and you can manually move the data over to the external SD and create symlinks yourself, which can be tedious.
Alternatively, you can modify the vold.fstab to change the mount points, putting the real external sd as /sdcard and the internal storage as /sdcard/external_sd. There's instructions for this here. The vold.fstab method is what I personally use, as I've got a 32gb sd card and far too many games that want to download 500mb+ each.
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Hi and thanks. I just read about that mod. Is it as straightforward as just rewriting that file in rootexplorer? It sounds too easy!
I was gonna format the sd card in the phone but was not sure it would format the internal card and not the external one since I can't seem to get it recognized. I would be in big do do if I erased her stuff!!! It might be a bad card and I'll try an alternate one.

Yep, it's really as easy as snagging the file, editing it, and rewriting it in root explorer (or a shell, I haven't bought root explorer so I tend to do things from the shell). As for formatting in the phone, it should list both an SD card and USB storage, the usb storage is the internal storage, and the sd card is actually the sd card, it *should* have a format option there if the card is good, even if it's not seeing the files on it.

Thank you all!!!!!
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Yep, it's really as easy as snagging the file, editing it, and rewriting it in root explorer (or a shell, I haven't bought root explorer so I tend to do things from the shell). As for formatting in the phone, it should list both an SD card and USB storage, the usb storage is the internal storage, and the sd card is actually the sd card, it *should* have a format option there if the card is good, even if it's not seeing the files on it.
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Piece of cake!!!!! :highfive: We now have the external sd card (only 8gb for now) mounted instead. Whoever came up with that very clever work around is genius. That's better than apps2sd or link2sd.
Thank you so much to everyone who responded. Between all of you I have Rooted with the kernel on the internal card, and the appinstaller saw the apks when I put them on the internal card. My original 8gb card was bad. It was a cheap one- $5 or $8 dollars. I got 2 and the 2nd one works fine- formatted in my computer and phone saw it immediately. I transferred the stuff from the internal to the external. Did I need to do that? I left it on the internal incase the sd card is removed. Tethering manager is removed- att junk is frozen.
One more question if I may? If another rom is flashed, or I odin back to stock for whatever reason, does this sd card switch stay, or is it overwritten with the new rom? Just need to know what to do if I ever need to reset this phone.
I also added my google account to the market to put my paid apps on her phone but when I signed in to the play store under my account my paid apps did not show as paid. Anyone know why? I worked around it but I was surprised.
Again thanks to such a nice group of people! :highfive: I had a crash course in the captivate glide in 24 hrs. You gave me info here I don't think I could have found with continued searching.

sashusmom said:
I transferred the stuff from the internal to the external. Did I need to do that? I left it on the internal incase the sd card is removed. Tethering manager is removed- att junk is frozen.
One more question if I may? If another rom is flashed, or I odin back to stock for whatever reason, does this sd card switch stay, or is it overwritten with the new rom? Just need to know what to do if I ever need to reset this phone.
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Moving everything that was on the internal memory to the SD card was a good call, since you swapped the mount points everything that stored stuff on the internal memory will now expect that stuff to be on the sd card. There's no need to keep it on the internal memory (you can delete everything there and it'll recreate LOST.DIR) unless you plan on swapping back at any point, in which case you could just copy stuff across before swapping back.
As for flashing another rom, that'll require you edit the vold.fstab again unless the rom has already made that change, which none of our existing roms have.
Personally, I keep the internal memory completely empty as far as daily use things go. CWR will store its backups there, as it mounts the memory independently of the vold.fstab, and all roms/kernels/etc you want to flash can go there, leaving the sd card free for things you actually use.

Bak- thank you so much for all the info. I saved the original file and I will make a copy of the edited mount file in case I need it again. If I ever get her phone back I will clear the internal card since that info is now on the external one.
I wonder how long this captivate glide will hold up with my daughter. She is very hard on her cell phones. Already case #1 broke due to a drop. 2 more are on the way. When I pointed out it could have been the phone broken she said- yeah, I know. I'll keep the case on. :victoryshe hates cases!) Hopefully this phone will get her thru her senior year in college!
Thank you everyone who pitched in to get me the info I needed to get it going. :laugh:

[Q] Does App2sd function really work?

Hi all, I have installed cm12 with App2sd function on my Xperia M (C1905) and although I get a message for successful movement to the ext card, nothing seems to work as my available internal storege still reduces with every install. Also, if I set the external sd card as the default install location, I get the famous "insufficient storage available" when trying to install big apps although I have more than enough free storage. Clean Master also says "Your device storage and internal SD card are the same, so moving is unnecessary" and google camera's option for saving photos to the external card is also dissapeared.
Despite all these, if I remove the sd card while having applications installed in it, the apps cannot open (popup: app not installed). It seems like the apps are indeed installed in the sd card but my phone believes they are in the internal(?)
Is there something I can do about this? I use a 32 gb fat32 sd card, but I have tried ext4 and ntfs too, with no result. I also can't mount a 2nd partition (if any) with Link2sd.

App2sd works but...does not move complete data...
I feel temp files, apk, and cache still remained in internal sd.
Link2sd if far better...than this...

Oh I see… Unfortunately I can't get link2sd to work for me :/ Do you know if storage swap works on lollipop?
Thanks for your help!
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Hey,
The app2sd problem in 10.01 fxp is fixed..
Flash the boot.img in this file using flash tool
http://www.mediafire.com/?cpklvyh374193qw
And no swap method is available for lollipop yet.
Link2sd ll work only if you have two partitions...
Try like this, one partition with fat32 and second partition with ext4 . Good Luck :thumbup:
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Thank you for your help!!

Unable to move apps on SD Card after 6.0 update

Hello,
After upgrade and factory reset and micro-SD format, I am unable to move apps on the SD Card of my LG G4 H815.
I know that some can't be moved, but some can, and I am unable to move some games that before I was able to move, because I don't get that option. I also tried with a different micro-SD, although the card worked just fine before the upgrade.
I just don't get that options - I don't even get the option to format the external SD as phone memory, as I know it should do.
I wanted to post screenshots but I can't, because I'm a new member, so I'll try to explain:
- I go to Settings - Apps - choose a game - storage - there are only 2 options, clear data and clear cache
-I go to Storage - SD Card - settings - (here I have only Eject and Format, and if I choose Format, the only option I have is format as portable storage)
Did anyone faced a similar problem? I digged around bout couldn't find anything like this.
Thank you

I have the same problem, wen i upgrade to 6.0 i have some games with the option to choose were the data goes, less than 5.0 but i can move few.
I hard reset to stop batery drain and now i cant move any data from apps to SD card.

Same problem here! Even link2sd doesn't works...

Did you format your sd card as portable/external? How did you format your partitions and what formats when you tried link2sd?

Just tried it link2sd works for me using Fat32 on first partition and second one ext2. It had to reboot once but I guess it has something to do with my systemless root as it simply dissappeared and I had to reroot again.

The only option is portable in the format on the phone. I was under the impression under marshmallow you would be able to format either to portable or internal.

Just checked move 2 sd isnt showing up in options my guess it has something to do with the new internal/external feature, did not test with link2sd only linking tested and that works for me. I guess that you can only format as external is caused by stock rom. After all I have read internal seems not to be a good choice for mobiles with enough internal storage

Link2sd was formatted as ext4 that worked on lolly, but the big problem is I formatted as external (only choice) and the "move to sd" button does'nt appear at all! Maybe I should format all the sd as ext4? In a nutshell the 20B is using my sd as an otg storage, can read and write, but not considered by games and so (luckily the camera srill save pics and vids on sd).as far as I can see there is only thi thread and we are the only one thata have this problem!

I search about it and seems, LG dont implement 6.0 feature to use SD as internal memory if SD card have the minimal speed requirements

Try ext2 on second partition then it will work. I only have the problem that it wont mount at reboot, I always have to wait after complete boot and some time more until it recognizes second partition and mounts it. Perhaps an issue with systemless root (supersu 2.65beta) I am using but as long as no system apps are linked there is no problem with this (and I dont reboot often)

Ext4 on link2sd used to work, but in 6.0 (20b) it looks like I deleted a lot of "trash" so I was able to reatore all the app without link2sd and I would like not to use it, just to move app to mi samsung64gb sd to save other internal space for the future.I know it doesn't move the complete app, but one day maybe you will need even just 5mb...never say never....and one day you may need even just 5mb of internal memory...never say never... anyhow it store lictures in my sd, so I'm really afraid is about a limit of the rom or the memory card (I miss the format as internal memory too, while someone has that option on G4, am I wrong?) I have the classic silver 64gb samsung micro sd not the ultrafast version I used to make 4k vids on my old S5!

I personally bought link2sd as the old move 2 sd didnt work well with my samsung galaxy tab s, most apps crashed but using link2sd they worked (not all but most of them). As for SD card I have a sandisk ultra 128GB and no problem recording 4k to it, I use the mod with the highest bitrate from the forums here

alxtraxxx said:
I personally bought link2sd as the old move 2 sd didnt work well with my samsung galaxy tab s, most apps crashed but using link2sd they worked (not all but most of them). As for SD card I have a sandisk ultra 128GB and no problem recording 4k to it, I use the mod with the highest bitrate from the forums here
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I was talnkig about my SD not to say if I can record or not 4k (we are off topic here), but just to say that is NOT the ultrafast that samsung requires for recording 4k video without modding.
I just mean that now I have a "Samsung MB-MP64D/EU Micro SD XC EVO, UHS-1, CLASS 10 orange/wite" not the "Samsung MB-MG64D/EU micro SDXC Pro 64Go Class 10 UHS-I silver".
The latter was required by samsung to record 4k video=superfaster compared to the hal priced one I have.So, MAYBE, the SD does the difference in Marshmallow, it detects the kid of SD and allow us to use it as internal memory and/or to move the apps on the sd without the Link2SD app (for the record, I used ext4 withou problem with lollypop, now Link2SD doesn't find the partition, I won't waste time trying other ext till my phone will be full).

Format SD as Internal?

when i format my SD card to be used as internal storage and i place a ROM on the SDcard to install / update the Rom im on i cant locate the zip at all. Is because its formated as internal and also when i connect to my computer only the sdcard shows not the internal memory any ideas

Let me just give you an other warning, when using Custom ROMs you should not use internal storage, because the moment you decide to switch ROMs and you either choose to or have to wipe /data, strangely it will wipe and corrupt an SD card,, its weird because wiping /data doesn't touch the real internal storage but if your SD is set as internal storage it wipes it.
I learned that the hard way, I switched to a custom ROM on my HTC 10, I was using SD Card as Internal for the first time on this device in Stock Rooted ROM, the very second I wiped /data to do a clean flash, TWRP said "can't mound sd card".
The card was wiped in a weird format so it was corrupted, a 64GB Sandisk Ultra became a 16GB card that wouldn't properly mount even in windows, yes for real! even formatting in Windows 10 wouldn't fix it, I had to use a special tool from sandisk's website to repair the card.
After all of this I searched XDA to confirm this is a real issue, it wasn't just weird bad luck, so if I were you I would be careful or just switch back to SD External Mode.
The final conclusion is this feature is very nice for the regular world with OTA's but it seems in the Root world it can be a disaster, which I'm sure why you could be having issues as well.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, the last part you mentioned is normal, internal storage will no longer be accessible in Windows or even Android for you, apps can still install there though, and in the App Manager you have the choice where you want a particular app installed.

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Let me just give you an other warning, when using Custom ROMs you should not use internal storage, because the moment you decide to switch ROMs and you either choose to or have to wipe /data, strangely it will wipe and corrupt an SD card,, its weird because wiping /data doesn't touch the real internal storage but if your SD is set as internal storage it wipes it.
I learned that the hard way, I switched to a custom ROM on my HTC 10, I was using SD Card as Internal for the first time on this device in Stock Rooted ROM, the very second I wiped /data to do a clean flash, TWRP said "can't mound sd card".
The card was wiped in a weird format so it was corrupted, a 64GB Sandisk Ultra became a 16GB card that wouldn't properly mount even in windows, yes for real! even formatting in Windows 10 wouldn't fix it, I had to use a special tool from sandisk's website to repair the card.
After all of this I searched XDA to confirm this is a real issue, it wasn't just weird bad luck, so if I were you I would be careful or just switch back to SD External Mode.
The final conclusion is this feature is very nice for the regular world with OTA's but it seems in the Root world it can be a disaster, which I'm sure why you could be having issues as well.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, the last part you mentioned is normal, internal storage will no longer be accessible in Windows or even Android for you, apps can still install there though, and in the App Manager you have the choice where you want a particular app installed.
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Thats what figured, thanks again for the quick answer.

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Thats what figured, thanks again for the quick answer.
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No problem, I will tell you my set up if it helps you, I use SD as External, all my Music, Photos, Videos, Game ROMs(SNES, N64, etc), TWRP backups, any ROMs or flash stuff is all on the SD.
My internal storage is usually never touched by me file transfer wise, all apps and other caches and such are stored there by force but I still have a good amount of space because of the SD help still.
And I have a bit of apps, including all the big file sized GTA games, Real Racing 3, etc.
Good luck on what you decide is best for you!

hey there. How should I format my SD card? Ext2/3/4? size? What's the best choice? Got a 128gb card
Thx for reply