Bravia engine after bootloader unlock! - Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion

So as the title reveals, I have unlocked the BL and tried a few custom roms. Didnt liked any so back to stock. But i just came to know that we loose bravia engine after we unlock the BL. But as I m on stock 4.1.2 I do see the bravia engine on/off toggle. Its quite confusing. Have i really lost bravia engine? Or it just gets restored when we flash stock roms?
Well If i have lost my BE, any way to restore it back? i mean will locking the BL do?
thanks!

ChaTy said:
So as the title reveals, I have unlocked the BL and tried a few custom roms. Didnt liked any so back to stock. But i just came to know that we loose bravia engine after we unlock the BL. But as I m on stock 4.1.2 I do see the bravia engine on/off toggle. Its quite confusing. Have i really lost bravia engine? Or it just gets restored when we flash stock roms?
Well If i have lost my BE, any way to restore it back? i mean will locking the BL do?
thanks!
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Yes, You get the option for Bravia Engine after You flash the stock ROM or stock based ROM. Also, if You had not taken backup the TA partition before unlocking bootloader, then You cannot have the Bravia Engine back, even if You get the option for it. If You had taken backup, then it will work after restoring, and that too only on stock firmware.

Mirhawk said:
Yes, You get the option for Bravia Engine after You flash the stock ROM or stock based ROM. Also, if You had not taken backup the TA partition before unlocking bootloader, then You cannot have the Bravia Engine back, even if You get the option for it. If You had taken backup, then it will work after restoring, and that too only on stock firmware.
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Well I havent taken any backup of TA partition, is it unique for each cell? or do they have common one for xperia s? Damn, this mean I wont be getting BE back?

Should I try this?
http://www.gizmobolt.com/tag/bravia-engine-2/
EDIT: xda link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131071

ChaTy said:
Well I havent taken any backup of TA partition, is it unique for each cell? or do they have common one for xperia s? Damn, this mean I wont be getting BE back?
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ChaTy said:
Should I try this?
http://www.gizmobolt.com/tag/bravia-engine-2/
EDIT: xda link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2131071
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TA backup are unique for each device, and using other people's TA backup would brick Your phone. You can try those mods, but taking a backup is recommended and trying these backups on stock or stock based ROM. I have not used them. so can't comment anything other than that.

Mirhawk said:
TA backup are unique for each device, and using other people's TA backup would brick Your phone. You can try those mods, but taking a backup is recommended and trying these backups on stock or stock based ROM. I have not used them. so can't comment anything other than that.
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Thanks for replying..
Well i tried those mods, but i cant see any noticeable difference

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[Q] [Question] How do I load back stock firmware from CM7.1 on Xperia play

Well the title basically says it all.. I upgraded to cm7.1 on my play and it's awesome and all but some games don't work with the touchpads and the I lost the ps games function.. I was thinking about flashing back to stock firmware but flashtools doesn't work. any idea how I should go about this?
unless you backed up your NAND of the stock firmware, there's not really an easy way to get back without flashtool
Thanks.. I forgot to perform NANDROID backup :s you think i can fastboot??
You could try extracting the system.sin from the stock FTF (with winRAR or similar) then do "fastboot flash system system.sin". And if you want the stock kernel, extract kernel.sin and do "fastboot flash boot kernel.sin", or flash DooMKerneL which I find is vastly superior to a stock kernel
jacklebott said:
or flash DooMKerneL which I find is vastly superior to a stock kernel
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Is there any benefit to flash that kernel if intending to use stock speed at 1Ghz and not going go change roms or anything (besides being able to do nandroid)?
dannejanne said:
Is there any benefit to flash that kernel if intending to use stock speed at 1Ghz and not going go change roms or anything (besides being able to do nandroid)?
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I only use 1ghz on it, and it's still far faster than stock
jacklebott said:
I only use 1ghz on it, and it's still far faster than stock
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Ok thanks. I'll think about it. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the data folder only, right?
dannejanne said:
Ok thanks. I'll think about it. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the data folder only, right?
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I believe so, I just wish I knew that when I unlocked mine :|
jacklebott said:
I believe so, I just wish I knew that when I unlocked mine :|
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Hehe. Good thing to have titanium

[Q] How to back up app data & settings without root and Ultimate Backup Tool?

Hi, everyone. I can't seem to find the solution for my prob, so I've to ask for ur knowledge on this.
Problem:
I'm using Xperia Arc with latest stock firmware without root. And I want to back up my app data & settings before resetting or flashing it.
Attempt:
I've tried Ultimate Backup Tool, but to no avail, just as mentioned in the Ultimate Backup Tool thread that there are known problem with Xperia Arc as one of the Sony 2011 devices.
I've looked through all the rooting methods for Xperia Arc, and I can't seem to find or perform a working root on the phone without flashing it. Naturally, Titanium Backup can't work as well.
Question:
So, what options do I have to back up the app data & settings now? And I'm looking that whether will a flash necessarily wipe the data on ur phone? Can I retain the data even after flashing the phone?
Really appreciate for ur help. Thx~ =)
SCC2002 said:
Hi, everyone. I can't seem to find the solution for my prob, so I've to ask for ur knowledge on this.
Problem:
I'm using Xperia Arc with latest stock firmware without root. And I want to back up my app data & settings before resetting or flashing it.
Attempt:
I've tried Ultimate Backup Tool, but to no avail, just as mentioned in the Ultimate Backup Tool thread that there are known problem with Xperia Arc as one of the Sony 2011 devices.
I've looked through all the rooting methods for Xperia Arc, and I can't seem to find or perform a working root on the phone without flashing it. Naturally, Titanium Backup can't work as well.
Question:
So, what options do I have to back up the app data & settings now? And I'm looking that whether will a flash necessarily wipe the data on ur phone? Can I retain the data even after flashing the phone?
Really appreciate for ur help. Thx~ =)
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You can't, it's not possible to access and backup app data while your phone is not rooted. Are you on GB or ICS?
BTW, you don't have to flash your phone to root unless you have to downgrade. In the instance for ICS .587, I only need to flash the kernel of .562, root it via adb, then flash back the .587 kernel. This should not wipe your data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061338
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popthosegaskets said:
You can't, it's not possible to access and backup app data while your phone is not rooted. Are you on GB or ICS?
BTW, you don't have to flash your phone to root unless you have to downgrade. In the instance for ICS .587, I only need to flash the kernel of .562, root it via adb, then flash back the .587 kernel. This should not wipe your data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061338
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Thx a lot for ur reply. I'm on ICS .587 too. I was just afraid that flashing would wipe the data. And now this is clear.
Seems like this is the only option that I have, right? Btw, won't flashing it back to the latest firmware lose the root? Bcuz I used to have root, but I lost it when I updated my phone through official update methods. Or is that why I lost root?
SCC2002 said:
Thx a lot for ur reply. I'm on ICS .587 too. I was just afraid that flashing would wipe the data. And now this is clear.
Seems like this is the only option that I have, right? Btw, won't flashing it back to the latest firmware lose the root? Bcuz I used to have root, but I lost it when I updated my phone through official update methods. Or is that why I lost root?
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You lose root from both flashing stock firmware and updating through official updating methods.... at least for locked boot loaders
SCC2002 said:
Thx a lot for ur reply. I'm on ICS .587 too. I was just afraid that flashing would wipe the data. And now this is clear.
Seems like this is the only option that I have, right? Btw, won't flashing it back to the latest firmware lose the root? Bcuz I used to have root, but I lost it when I updated my phone through official update methods. Or is that why I lost root?
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Yes, flashing will lose your root, so does updating it via the official method. Flashing the entire ROM would wipe the data, but flashing the kernel does not.
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jman2131 said:
You lose root from both flashing stock firmware and updating through official updating methods.... at least for locked boot loaders
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popthosegaskets said:
Yes, flashing will lose your root, so does updating it via the official method. Flashing the entire ROM would wipe the data, but flashing the kernel does not.
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Really? Then, what's the point of downgrade the firmware then upgrade again? Lol~
So, does that mean that with unlocked bootloader, I can keep root even after upgraded?
SCC2002 said:
Really? Then, what's the point of downgrade the firmware then upgrade again? Lol~
So, does that mean that with unlocked bootloader, I can keep root even after upgraded?
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You can't root the latest firmware so you have to downgrade to root. You then upgrade by flashing the latest firmware's kernel which upgrades the firmware to the latest version and also keeps root status.
As for unlocked bootloaders, I can't comment because I have no experience with them
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jman2131 said:
You can't root the latest firmware so you have to downgrade to root. You then upgrade by flashing the latest firmware's kernel which upgrades the firmware to the latest version and also keeps root status.
As for unlocked bootloaders, I can't comment because I have no experience with them
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I think I got u wrongly before this. Lol. Bcuz you said that flashing it to the latest firmware will lose root. Or do you mean just stock firmware?
While for unlocked bootloader, can popthosegaskets or anyone else share the insight? Thx.
yep i meant flashing any stock ftf will make you lose root on locked bootloader
jman2131 said:
yep i meant flashing any stock ftf will make you lose root on locked bootloader
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So that means that if I want to upgrade to a later firmware without losing root, I've to use a custom firmware?
SCC2002 said:
So that means that if I want to upgrade to a later firmware without losing root, I've to use a custom firmware?
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Nope. You flash the kernel of the latest version of stock firmware. Here's an example
Sent from Xperia Arc S
ごめん~ごめん~
Sorry for the late reply
Anyways, I tried flashing the .587 kernel on my .562 stock. My firmware version still read .562, so I don't think flashing kernel will update firmware on unlocked bootloader.
As for rooting the latest firmware, you can update first, downgrade the kernel and root. You can keep data this way and get root.
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popthosegaskets said:
ごめん~ごめん~
Sorry for the late reply
Anyways, I tried flashing the .587 kernel on my .562 stock. My firmware version still read .562, so I don't think flashing kernel will update firmware on unlocked bootloader.
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it works for locked...at least for me lol
jman2131 said:
it works for locked...at least for me lol
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Yeah, when you unlock bootloader, you also remove DRM keys that connect to Sony servers. So Track ID, Playnow and other Sony services won't work anymore. You also cannot use OTA updates as it will brick your phone.
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jman2131 said:
Nope. You flash the kernel of the latest version of stock firmware. Here's an example
Sent from Xperia Arc S
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But the one that u provided is Arc S kernel, mine is Arc. Not sure whether are they compatible...
popthosegaskets said:
ごめん~ごめん~
Sorry for the late reply
Anyways, I tried flashing the .587 kernel on my .562 stock. My firmware version still read .562, so I don't think flashing kernel will update firmware on unlocked bootloader.
As for rooting the latest firmware, you can update first, downgrade the kernel and root. You can keep data this way and get root.
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Oh, it's alright~ Are u a Japanese? Lol. =P I see I see. Didn't know that firmware & kernel are different. Will try & see. Thx a lot~ ^^
jman2131 said:
it works for locked...at least for me lol
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Alright~ Will try. Thx a bunch. ^^
popthosegaskets said:
Yeah, when you unlock bootloader, you also remove DRM keys that connect to Sony servers. So Track ID, Playnow and other Sony services won't work anymore. You also cannot use OTA updates as it will brick your phone.
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Hmm~ I'm aware of that. But from first impression, it seems like they're not that important, since apps like Playnow are not useful. The only one that I use is TrackID, which I saw Sony published it on Play Store for public download. Sounds like it's fine to lose the DRM key too. Lol.
Arc S kernel and Arc kernel is different. Don't flash or it may cause problems.
I am Japanese but studying abroad.
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popthosegaskets said:
Arc S kernel and Arc kernel is different. Don't flash or it may cause problems.
I am Japanese but studying abroad.
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Wow, cool.
Is there any guide for me to flash the kernel? Is flashing custom kernel the same?
SCC2002 said:
Is there any guide for me to flash the kernel? Is flashing custom kernel the same?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683957
Just follow the instructions and you should get root for latest firmware.
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SCC2002 said:
Is there any guide for me to flash the kernel? Is flashing custom kernel the same?
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For flashing custom kernel, you need to unlock bootloader.
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[Q] flash ta backup while bootloader unlocked?

will bravia engine work with this?
i was on 6.2.b.1.96 xs 4.1.2 rooted
then i took TA Backup.
now today i unlocked bootloader for the first tym (DRM keys preserverd in TA backup.)
now if i restore my TA backup while the bootloader unlocked, then will it restore drm keys and will bravia engine work?
m nt trying it because m afraid of bricking the phone.( just recovered from a soft brick yesterday). has anyone tried?
yes surely mate ...go ahead with restore....it will restore ur DRM keys and bravia engine will work as it was at the time of backup...
recommend to do this on stock firmware on which u had taken the TA backup....Hope this helps...
mohit378 said:
yes surely mate ...go ahead with restore....it will restore ur DRM keys and bravia engine will work as it was at the time of backup...
recommend to do this on stock firmware on which u had taken the TA backup....Hope this helps...
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but dont it look weird, unlocked bootloader and drm keys working together? i didnt read anything like that on internet. can u quote any such link?
when u restore ur TA BACKUP it will restore ur DRM keys and bravia engine & ur BOOTLOADERS will get locked again....u have to unlock it again for custom kernel flashing...
so just flash stock firmware first on which u had taken TA backup and then restore it.... if you're using a custom kernel, you'll brick the phone.......so u must be on stock firmware first before restoration process...hope this helps...
Just to add since you just recovered from a soft brick.
If you restored your TA while using a custom kernel, you will hardbrick your phone which I believe is unrecoverable...
intoxic8 said:
Just to add since you just recovered from a soft brick.
If you restored your TA while using a custom kernel, you will hardbrick your phone which I believe is unrecoverable...
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Can you please explain the reason behind it?

[Q] Root firmware .101

Hi guys... i need root mi ZL whit firmware 10.4.1.B.0.101 but not as... i need help
Sorry for my bad bad english :crying:
You have two options
1. unlock your bootloader and flash root(warranty, DRM keys lost)
2. downgrade to 4.2.2 firmware
backup TA partition then flash a 4.3 pre-rooted stock rom
lastly restore TA partition(must be stock kernel)
stock rooted phone with warranty and DRM keys
If you don't care about the warranty, I'll suggest just go with option 1, since option 2 might be time consuming.
Option 2 is always better. Who knows when your phone is going to break.
GoHelll said:
Hi guys... i need root mi ZL whit firmware 10.4.1.B.0.101 but not as... i need help
Sorry for my bad bad english :crying:
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you will need to downgrade to 4.2.2 firmware,root it,install custom recovery then flash a pre-rooted 4.3 rom
adam1liukuro said:
You have two options
1. unlock your bootloader and flash root(warranty, DRM keys lost)
2. downgrade to 4.2.2 firmware
backup TA partition then flash a 4.3 pre-rooted stock rom
lastly restore TA partition(must be stock kernel)
stock rooted phone with warranty and DRM keys
If you don't care about the warranty, I'll suggest just go with option 1, since option 2 might be time consuming.
Option 2 is always better. Who knows when your phone is going to break.
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what is TA partition AND HOW TO BACKUP TA PARTITION ???????????????/
rameshkotibani said:
what is TA partition AND HOW TO BACKUP TA PARTITION ???????????????/
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
adam1liukuro said:
You have two options
1. unlock your bootloader and flash root(warranty, DRM keys lost)
2. downgrade to 4.2.2 firmware
backup TA partition then flash a 4.3 pre-rooted stock rom
lastly restore TA partition(must be stock kernel)
stock rooted phone with warranty and DRM keys
If you don't care about the warranty, I'll suggest just go with option 1, since option 2 might be time consuming.
Option 2 is always better. Who knows when your phone is going to break.
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Ben Ling said:
you will need to downgrade to 4.2.2 firmware,root it,install custom recovery then flash a pre-rooted 4.3 rom
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Not the OP, but am trying to figure out how to do this. All the root threads are a year old, so I want to make sure I have my facts straight before messing anything up. I have a C6506, US Generic but I don't want to lose my DRM keys or Warranty for resale reasons, so am trying to do this the "locked bootloader" way.
1) Downgrade to 4.2.2 firmware. Do I do this with Flashtool? This doesn't require unlocking the bootloader?
2) Root it .. Doomlord method? The Flashtool website says it can "root", too, but it offers no details on which method. What's the best way to go?
3) Install custom recovery. Which one? I see Nut's thread all talk about a dual recovery, but is that necessary? Can I install just one?
4) Is there a pre-rooted 101 for the C6506 US Generic? I can't seem to find one...
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CokeJunkee said:
If you're on .67 or .101 firmware, just flash the .423 kernel via Flashtool.
Because it is a Sony stock kernel, you do not need to unlock the bootloader for this step.
When flashing is done, close Flashtool and reboot your phone.
Enable 'unknown sources' (found in security settings) and 'usb debugging' (found in developer options).
Now use Doomlord's method to root.
When rooting is done, it's time to install a recovery to your device.
If your're going to use a custom rom based on Sonys stock fw (like ExistenZ and RomAur), I strongly recommend using [NUT]'s dualrecovery.
AOSP roms (CyanogenMod, P.A.C., Omni, etc.) bring their own cwm recovery.
After root and recovery, turn off the phone and flash either .67 or .101 kernel, corresponding to your firmware.
Now it's time to backup the TA partition.
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This is extremely helpful - thank you for providing links. I am wondering why this is so different from the method laid out here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51612704&postcount=12&nocache=1
Seems like your version is much easier, so I wonder why someone would go through all that trouble for the same result...
Also, won't I lose root once I flash the .101 kernel? Do I get it back using recovery?
Also also: the kernels linked above are for C6503 and C6502. Can I use the full FTF files for C6506 and just deselect flashing everything expect Kernel? It looks to be the same files, except that rpm.sin is included in the full files and not in the kernel FTFs.
when i flash a .423 kernel i got bootloops, am i doing something wrong?
after flashing back the .101 it boots normal

relock bootloader E6883?

who can give me a guide to relock back My bootloader to My z5 premium E6883?
im not see flash tool have E6883 model to relock...tq
See:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/xperia-z5-premium-dual-e6883-help-t3353950
pandan80 said:
who can give me a guide to relock back My bootloader to My z5 premium E6883?
im not see flash tool have E6883 model to relock...tq
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why do u want to relock? do u have DRM KEYS/TA.IMG backed up somewhere in your pc ? to restore?
anways
with flashtool you can relock it and then unlock it again!
keep the original unlock key with you (just in case) or you can always ask sony for the keys
YasuHamed said:
why do u want to relock? do u have DRM KEYS/TA.IMG backed up somewhere in your pc ? to restore?
anways
with flashtool you can relock it and then unlock it again!
keep the original unlock key with you (just in case) or you can always ask sony for the keys
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Hey, I want to put my Sony Z5 premium back to all factory to sell it, can you give me the steps to do that?
EMJI79 said:
Hey, I want to put my Sony Z5 premium back to all factory to sell it, can you give me the steps to do that?
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if the bootloader has been unlocked it can never be fully restored. you can never lock the bootloader the way sony did.
All you can do is to wipe and flash untouched stockrom and sell it
for flashing use flashtool / fastboot modes. you can do google for tutorial. its easy.
What about drm?
EMJI79 said:
What about drm?
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if you never took backup of your DRM then they are lost too! if you have taken backup then restore them manual. but whenever the buyer flash the device the keys will be lost too.
I have backed them up with TA backup
EMJI79 said:
I have backed them up with TA backup
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then relock your bootloader and sell it off. if the new owner don't change anything then the keys will stay intact.
however, if you could guide the new owner about it and email them the keys also , it will be fair deal
because you cannot use these keys on any other device.
Should I lock the bootloader first or restore TA first?
Anyone?
Answer: restoring TA automatically locks Bootloader.
But it needs root, so first restoring TA then flashing stock ROM with Flashtool.

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