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[MOD] Properly disable Carrier-IQ

Carrier IQ doesn't actually turn off when you disable it (the setting is hidden under System Settings -> Back up and reset.) If you check ps, battery stats, etc you will see it is still running to gather private data and send it off.
Fortunately, it is easier to disable on SGSIII than other devices. No framework mods needed!
To completely disable it (and remove the option from settings) you just need to remove the apps from /system/app. (Freezing is not enough, as it will still run in the background.)
Just remove these 3 files from /system/app and reboot to wipe it out completely:
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
(If you are feeling paranoid like me, you can just move them to a different directory - ie /system/app-bak. So long as they are gone from /system/app, Android won't run them.)
If you watch logcat on the first boot, you will see the permissions disappear:
W/PackageManager( 535): Removing dangling permission: com.carrieriq.tmobile.permission.IPC from package com.carrieriq.tmobile
And when you launch the backup page:
D/PrivacySettings( 967): Package not found : IQToggle
(The error shows on logcat, but the backup prefs work fine without it.)

Disconn3ct said:
Carrier IQ doesn't actually turn off when you disable it (the setting is hidden under System Settings -> Back up and reset.) If you check ps, battery stats, etc you will see it is still running to gather private data and send it off.
Fortunately, it is easier to disable on SGSIII than other devices. No framework mods needed!
To completely disable it (and remove the option from settings) you just need to remove the apps from /system/app. (Freezing is not enough, as it will still run in the background.)
Just remove these 3 files from /system/app and reboot to wipe it out completely:
IQ-tmobile-release-unsigned.signed_TMO.apk
IQToggle.signed_TMO.apk
IQ_OOB_TMO.apk
(If you are feeling paranoid like me, you can just move them to a different directory - ie /system/app-bak. So long as they are gone from /system/app, Android won't run them.)
If you watch logcat on the first boot, you will see the permissions disappear:
W/PackageManager( 535): Removing dangling permission: com.carrieriq.tmobile.permission.IPC from package com.carrieriq.tmobile
And when you launch the backup page:
D/PrivacySettings( 967): Package not found : IQToggle
(The error shows on logcat, but the backup prefs work fine without it.)
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I think most of us who did a custom Rom already removed it
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uoY_redruM said:
I think most of us who did a custom Rom already removed it
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And everyone else didn't.. so..

Just use the Logging Test App, but only remove ciq crap. If you remove the loggers it'll boot loop your phone.
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anthonykash said:
Just use the Logging Test App, but only remove ciq crap. If you remove the loggers it'll boot loop your phone.
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I'd hesitate to remove the library (the only thing it detects after you pull the apps out) because something else might depend on it. If you have a working recovery its easy enough to test though - move it out of the way, reboot. If it bootloops, boot recovery and put it back. (And let me know so I can update the first post..)

I suggest using TB to uninstall the CIQ and other bloatware because it also removes the entry in /data/data. Otherwise, you have to do it manually.

overground said:
I suggest using TB to uninstall the CIQ and other bloatware because it also removes the entry in /data/data. Otherwise, you have to do it manually.
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Tried that and it didn't work for me. YMMV, but that is why I started looking into pulling it out of the framework. (Fortunately they didn't build it in as deeply on this one as they used to, so its pretty simple to remove.)

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anthonykash said:
Just use the Logging Test App, but only remove ciq crap. If you remove the loggers it'll boot loop your phone.
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Agreed, I had the same issue.

Disconn3ct said:
Tried that and it didn't work for me. YMMV, but that is why I started looking into pulling it out of the framework. (Fortunately they didn't build it in as deeply on this one as they used to, so its pretty simple to remove.)
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Odd, worked just fine for me.

Anything in 'ps' related to IQ? After removing the apps through Titanium and rebooting the service was still running (and it even showed in battery stats - https://twitter.com/disconn3ct/status/223401642077327361 has a screenshot)
That is why I started looking at it to begin with.

Thanks
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This worked on my SGH-T999 T-Mobile Galaxy S III.
XDA Rocks!!!

On my tmo GS3 I get errors about cross-device links???
I just used adb shell to get in, then su, then tried moving the files.
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Never mind. I just did it with root explorer instead.

MrGibbage said:
On my tmo GS3 I get errors about cross-device links???
I just used adb shell to get in, then su, then tried moving the files.
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Never mind. I just did it with root explorer instead.
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The default 'mv' just calls the move syscall, which creates a link and removes the original. (That fails across different filesystems since you can't create hardlinks between them.)
'busybox mv' will do it th at way if it is the same filesystem, but if not it will do a full copy-and-remove. (Or just use a file manager, as you did..)

On my GS2, just freezing it in Titanium was enough. It never actively ran after that. The CIQ stuff embedded in the kernel was still present, but there was no activity or battery usage. Weird that it's still active after freezing it. I'll have to look into this and see what activity is actually going on, because I don't want to root this phone or delete anything just yet. Right now the standard ICS "disable" is working just fine on several things, and so I thought on CIQ as well.

What does this IQ do anyway? any reason why we wouldnt or would want to remove?

allendj81 said:
What does this IQ do anyway? any reason why we wouldnt or would want to remove?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_IQ
Especially the "Rootkit discovery and media attention" section.
There's plenty of info here on XDA also since it was one of our members who discovered it's prevalance.

overground said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_IQ
Especially the "Rootkit discovery and media attention" section.
There's plenty of info here on XDA also since it was one of our members who discovered it's prevalance.
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What does this mean?
Many have already been seeking suit against CarrierIQ, including:
Commonwealth of Massachusetts (criminal and civil)
United States Department of Justice (criminal)
Federal Trade Commission (civil)
Sprint Nextel (civil)
T-Mobile (civil)
JMLECS Umbrella Companies[36] (criminal and civil)
Hagens Berman, California, class action (unknown)[37]
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T-Moble was forced to install CarrierIQ? Why are they suing?

It tracks your location, activity, browsing, sms/mms traffic, email etc etc etc without telling you and sends it to the carrier (and others.) Some of that data has good uses. (For example, the carrier can say "there are a lot of dropped calls near these towers, lets get more information from those devices - exact locations, etc - and see if we can fix it.") The majority of it is purely for marketing, advertising and so forth.
In exchange, you get lower battery life and no privacy. (Oh, and as an added bonus, it doesn't actually turn off when you disable it in the settings..)

HG! said:
What does this mean?
T-Moble was forced to install CarrierIQ? Why are they suing?
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They're probably suing because they're claiming that they were told it didn't record keystrokes
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[APP] LMK Whitelist v2.0 for Semaphore, Mackay, Cyancore & Fishears

I had a few spare hours and made an app to add processes to the whitelist of the low memory killer.
This feature is currently available in
Semaphore Kernel for 4.2 JB
Mackay Kernel (untested)
Cyancore (untested)
Fishears Kernel (untested)
You can add up to 6 apps (kernel-limit) that will not get killed if your phone needs free ram. The purpose of this is to prevent e.g. your launcher from being killed when your phone needs more ram - resulting in redraws and unresponsiveness.But be warned: if you add too many memory intensive apps to this list your phone will get laggy and in worst case you will get force closes.
How it works:
To make an app "invulnerable" one needs to write it's PID (process ID) in a Kernel-config file
To get the PID of an app it has to run
This is why the whitelist-app starts a service (on boot and if you change the config) that runs and checks periodically for PIDs until it has found all your selected apps
Be aware that the service will run forever if you add an app that never gets started to the list!
If you only add your launcher and/or other apps that run permanently it will finish immediately.
Of course this requires root permissions to work!!
It is not the prettiest android app there is, so feel free to contribute with a better layout
Since Version 1.2 there are 3 open intents, which let you clear/create the whitelist from within other apps. The intent actions are:
com.jb.semaphorelmkwhitelist.CLEAR_WHITELIST
com.jb.semaphorelmkwhitelist.CREATE_WHITELIST
com.jb.semaphorelmkwhitelist.TOGGLE_WHITELIST
BIG THANKS TO STRATOSK, the developer of Semaphore Kernel and the Semaphore Manager app.
Please consider donating to him to support the further development of the kernel.
If you want to support my work please have a look at my apps in play store (see my signature)
I will send the source code to anyone asking me via PM.
Changelog:
Raise Version to 2.0
-) Ability to detect services running in their own process (works for greenify, possibly also tasker - didn't check though)
-) Create Launcher shortcuts for apps combined with whitelist actions, takes label and icon from the selected app
- clear whitelist: recommended for games, whitelist needs to be manually enabled again afterwards
- temporary add to whitelist: recommended for music player apps, the started app gets added to the whitelist until it is refreshed
1.4
Fix wrong game mode state on reboot
Option to force greenify apps in game mode (enable in settings)
1.3
Changed launcher shortcut to toggle game mode (whitelist on/off)
Added new open intent TOGGLE_WHITELIST
1.2
Added Launcher shortcut to clear whitelist
Added open Intents to clear/create whitelist
1.1
Renamed to LMK Whitelist
Added option to disable toast messages
Added about dialog
1.0
Initial release

Great job! Thank you so much! Just installed and trying...
SGS - Sema 2.9.20s - Xylon 0.2.3.3 - Cobalt Sam-X - Big Thanx2all
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Nice one! I really like the infobox of this app. Well done!
SGS - Sema 2.9.20s - Xylon 0.2.3.3 - Cobalt Sam-X - Big Thanx2all

Great work! It seems to work fine. Thanks!

There a 3 kernels which can use this app currently, semaphore, cyancore and mackay.
Also about the source, why not upload it to github.
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Nice job! I think a few screenshots would be nice in the OP!

Great idea!
Thanks for the great idea and implementation, this is exactly what was needed to complete stratosk feature.
a small bug I encountered:
when trying to add the phone process through the "Lancher apps" list, if i press the "Phone" button the app adds the "com.android.contacts" process instead of the "com.android.phone" process. (BTW, pressing the "Contacts" button, also adds the "com.android.contacts" process).
Great job, Thanks!

ts1506 said:
There a 3 kernels which can use this app currently, semaphore, cyancore and mackay.
Also about the source, why not upload it to github.
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I'm sure more kernel developers will implement it...
So, why not call it just LMK-Whitelist?
Also nobody could complain if you sell it at Playstore and share the profit with Stratosk...
For more comfort you could show the real name of the apps in the list and enable to choose all apps at once.
Great job, congratulations!
SGS - Sema 2.9.20s - Xylon 0.2.3.3 - Cobalt Sam-X - Big Thanx2all

grinder777 said:
I'm sure more kernel developers will implement it...
So, why not call it just LMK-Whitelist?
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:good:
I totally agree.

superkoal said:
How it works:
To make an app "invulnerable" one needs to write it's PID (process ID) in a Kernel-config file
To get the PID of an app it has to run
This is why the whitelist-app starts a service (on boot and if you change the config) that runs and checks periodically for PIDs until it has found all your selected apps
Be aware that the service will run forever if you add an app that never gets started to the list!
If you only add your launcher and/or other apps that run permanently it will finish immediately.
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Hi,
do you think it would be possible to periodically check for the running apps and if they match the list configured in your app instead of having a service running once after the configuration or after system boot? As you stated the service is running forever if the app is not yet running. If you could make the interval to check for apps configurable, one could still use the current setup. But it could also be configured in the way that you just specify a list of apps, that are supposed to be LMK safe once they are running, and they would also be remove from the whitelist once you close them manually.
What do you think of this idea?

Rebel2k said:
Nice job! I think a few screenshots would be nice in the OP!
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Thanks! I will add them in my next few spare hours
ziporpor said:
a small bug I encountered:
when trying to add the phone process through the "Lancher apps" list, if i press the "Phone" button the app adds the "com.android.contacts" process instead of the "com.android.phone" process. (BTW, pressing the "Contacts" button, also adds the "com.android.contacts" process).!
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This is just the way android works - the apps in your launcher are sometimes combined in one package.
grinder777 said:
I'm sure more kernel developers will implement it...
So, why not call it just LMK-Whitelist?
Also nobody could complain if you sell it at Playstore and share the profit with Stratosk...
For more comfort you could show the real name of the apps in the list and enable to choose all apps at once.!
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Thanks, I will change the name.
I will think about it, but i don't think i will sell it, maybe i add a donate button.
elhennig said:
Hi, do you think it would be possible to periodically check for the running apps and if they match the list configured in your app instead of having a service running once after the configuration or after system boot? As you stated the service is running forever if the app is not yet running. If you could make the interval to check for apps configurable, one could still use the current setup. But it could also be configured in the way that you just specify a list of apps, that are supposed to be LMK safe once they are running, and they would also be remove from the whitelist once you close them manually. What do you think of this idea?
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Not sure if I understood what you mean, just post again if I misunderstood.
You can already configure the check interval in settings (Hit the menu button!)
When I say the service runs forever it means that it will check every 60 seconds (configurable) if the selected apps are running.
Not sure why you want to remove apps from the whiteliste again, the whole purpose is to make an app always running.
Android won't kill an app in foreground...

superkoal said:
This is just the way android works - the apps in your launcher are sometimes combined in one package.
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It's not a bug, it's a feature :laugh:
Thanks!

superkoal said:
Not sure if I understood what you mean, just post again if I misunderstood.
You can already configure the check interval in settings (Hit the menu button!)
When I say the service runs forever it means that it will check every 60 seconds (configurable) if the selected apps are running.
Not sure why you want to remove apps from the whiteliste again, the whole purpose is to make an app always running.
Android won't kill an app in foreground...
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Ok, I just tried again and this time the menu button worked
I just thought about the following use case:
I want to have an app staying in the memory after I started it manually and want keep it - also in the background - until I explicitly close it.
Also if you restart an app (for example the launcher) for some reason the pid changes and you would have to open your app to update the whitelist

If you must really update the whitelist after every reboot (empty battery, wipe cache/dalvik, use recovery etc.) than it's not funny. It means everytime you must think about this.

yavu said:
If you must really update the whitelist after every reboot (empty battery, wipe cache/dalvik, use recovery etc.) than it's not funny. It means everytime you must think about this.
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This is what the app does for you, it's the reason i wrote this app (together with the fact that i don't like scripts running in the background)
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yavu said:
If you must really update the whitelist after every reboot (empty battery, wipe cache/dalvik, use recovery etc.) than it's not funny. It means everytime you must think about this.
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The whitelist content (i.e, the processes that were selected) is persistent after reboot.
There is no need to select it every time again (at least according to my experience).

superkoal said:
This is what the app does for you, it's the reason i wrote this app (together with the fact that i don't like scripts running in the background)
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Ok then its great :good:
Edit:
It mean that we don't need superlauncher script anymore?

yavu said:
It mean that we don't need superlauncher script anymore?
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As far as I remember the superlauncher script does a few more things, but if you just want to make your launcher persistent you don't need it any more.

it would be great if stratosk could add these app into semaphore manager with your permission

pxrave said:
it would be great if stratosk could add these app into semaphore manager with your permission
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Stratosk has my permission to use this however he wants and he knows that.
I am just not sure if he wants to add this, i haven't seen an "official" statement regarding this

Been looking ages for a way to multitask with my poweramp running and for the keyboard not to crash... you just made my life a whole lot easier and maybe gave my phone a longer life... thank you sir, thank you very much!
Edit: lol, not so sure how to whitelist the keyboard... which processes should i whitelist?

[Manual Fix] v2.1.5i Notification auto clear, Apps not autostarting

I've chosen to post this fix that I have created here to bring more attention to XDA, instead of posting directly on OPPO Forums. This is because OPPO staff have clearly stated with their latest release of ColorOS v2.1.5i that it will be their last.
The mods also didn't reply when I offered to share with them this, so.. That's the situation there.
For those who still prefer ColorOS while Project Spectrum is being developed (released today but not all ColorOS features included), follow the steps below.
After 3 weeks if testing.. Here is the fix!!
Issue:
After some usage, you notice app notifications appear, then disappear immediately.
After reboot, this behavior persists. Additionally, your startup apps do not autostart anymore.
Apps in the background are automatically closed after switching to another app.
Manual Fix:
There is a problematic folder and file that needs to be removed. Use a file manager such as Solid Explorer to browse to the files and remove them.
/data/data_bpm - remove folder and files
/data/system/appops.xml - remove file
Reboot and all is fixed.
Persistent notifications hidden using notification centre reappears. Just enable and disable the notification through the notifications control and it will go away.
Tasker is recommended to create a reboot button. The task sequence for reboot would be to remove the problematic files and folder before reboot. It automates the process making your life easier.
If this helps you..
Please spread the word and link back to this thread on xda. ?

Thanks for the fix, dude, very much appreciated

Well done! Even though I am not using COS anymore, I really do appreciate your post!

Thank you for the fix! Cheers

Thanks for the share. Will try this. In the meantime, anyone still having notification problems, try greenify. The fix is in experimental features but you will need to pay for this feature. I've decided to settle on 2.1.5i. Will move to asop when it is more stable. Cheers.

tropical cactus said:
Thanks for the share. Will try this. In the meantime, anyone still having notification problems, try greenify. The fix is in experimental features but you will need to pay for this feature. I've decided to settle on 2.1.5i. Will move to asop when it is more stable. Cheers.
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Could you elaborate more? I'm also using greenify but issue still persists.

You need xposed framework for it to work. In settings, go to experimental features. Tick telephony wake up, don't remove notifications and gcm push. I have all notifications coming in on time. Gmail default app seems to be the only problem app so I use default email app instead. P.s. I tried deleting the first folder and files but it shows up again after reboot. The second file is gone. Is this correct? Thanks.

tropical cactus said:
You need xposed framework for it to work. In settings, go to experimental features. Tick telephony wake up, don't remove notifications and gcm push. I have all notifications coming in on time. Gmail default app seems to be the only problem app so I use default email app instead. P.s. I tried deleting the first folder and files but it shows up again after reboot. The second file is gone. Is this correct? Thanks.
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I had all the options selected. Guess it does not work for me.
And yes, files are recreated. I would suggest adding the deletion to a task sequence for reboot to automate the procedure.

8monochrome said:
I had all the options selected. Guess it does not work for me.
And yes, files are recreated. I would suggest adding the deletion to a task sequence for reboot to automate the procedure.
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Regarding notifications, I've also put every messaging app and email in white list and auto run management. Funny why it's not working out for you. I get reply notifications from youtube too, without adding it. Not sure about how to do the task sequence but everything seems to be fine now.

8monochrome said:
I had all the options selected. Guess it does not work for me.
And yes, files are recreated. I would suggest adding the deletion to a task sequence for reboot to automate the procedure.
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How to adding the deletion to a task sequence..

jalaluddin98 said:
How to adding the deletion to a task sequence..
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You can use Tasker to create a reboot button or profile.
But I suggest using other mm roms.. Coloros pales in comparison after I switched.

If you're rooted, removing Security Centre would stop a lot of issues....
These Chinese phones are over the top on built in security apps and I assume because China has a lot of aggressive adware.
Xposed and MinMinGaurd, plus AdBlock Browser fixes a lot of issues.

@RobboW Do you really remove the Security Centre?

I kept it but it is annoying at times. You have to go in and check so many settings if you install anything you want to run at boot or start up itself. I even had to move a couple of apps into system instead of user so they would run reliably.

Does Xposed trouble with Color OS?

Deleting the file and folder seems to do the job, but not 100%. Yesterday I noticed Waze was closing after switching to another app, so I checked and they were back in the data folder. Deleted them again, but they seem to reappear after every reboot? Anyway, now waze seems to work and does not close with the "new" fikes.
Another solution to the problem is to convert apps that have problems to system apps. It worked for me with Chrome (wasn't getting Facebook notifications at all in chrome), Google Calendar, and Titanium Backup (batch actions would not complete because the app would close when not in foreground).

Do you need to be rooted to locate/delete the two files? I can't seem to find it on my device.

play8oy said:
Do you need to be rooted to locate/delete the two files? I can't seem to find it on my device.
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Yes.

GUIDE: Make your V30 Faster and Smoother

I"ll keep it short, if you guys have more tips to improve on this please share.
I have been testing this for days on my wife stock v30 and mine. Both started the same with all bloware.
After doing this I actually get
-Better battery
-Less battery drain in standby
-Faster performance
-and MUCH SMOOTHER SCROLLING
It seems to be a few LG apps running in the backgroung that are causing the stutter and lag we have all experience,
some more than others.
Before doing this, go into different apps check speed and scrolling (Instagram, google home, gmail etc) so u can see the before and after.
READ THIS BEFORE DOING:
-LG KEYBOARD IS DISABLE, download a different keyboard (swipe, gboard) and have that already install in your device, if you already have then disregard this
-Also downloaded a different launcher if u are going to disable the stock launcher. I recommend using a different launcher other than the LG.
Let start.
1: Go into play store and download "LG package disabler"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lgpd.pmanager
I believe is $1.99 but well worth it for what u can actually do
The LG PACKAGE DISABLE is suppost to AUTOMATICALLY download thr plugin needed to have administrator right so u can disable apps. if it doesnt after installation. download it here.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.weblib.mdm
2: BELOW I have attach pics of all apps i have disable. disable all or just the apps u which to disable.
NOTE: I disable Chrome (using Samsung internet beta) which support ad blocker (highly recommended) you can enable chrome in LG PD
3: go to developer option and enable "force gpu rendering"
after all this, Restart your phone. It should be faster and smoother.
Theres a few things you might want ENABLE (like the floating bar) which I have disable since I don't use it.
I did not include the 0.5X animation trick since I like my animation to be at 1.0X (personal choice)

Anyone else try this?

ern88 said:
Anyone else try this?
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I just used that xml and so far things certainly feel snappier -- will test the battery tomorrow though.
I was getting almost 5hrs of screen on time before, I'm curious how much of an impact disabling all these packages will have.
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cvsolidx17 said:
I just used that xml and so far things certainly feel snappier -- will test the battery tomorrow though.
I was getting almost 5hrs of screen on time before, I'm curious how much of an impact disabling all these packages will have.
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updated the xml files. now includes 109 apps bloaware disable. rebooted phone multiple times and played with it for a day. rock solid

eduardmc said:
updated the xml files. now includes 109 apps bloaware disable. rebooted phone multiple times and played with it for a day. rock solid
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How do you import the XML into the app?

ern88 said:
How do you import the XML into the app?
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save the xml. in ur device. open LG PD. on upper right hand conner u will see 3 dots. when u press that you'll see different options including "import from xml". choose that and select file.

So far so good, just had to re enable a few things that I use but its a lot snappier. Thanks.

i did this as well but now i cant seem to re-enable anything. I uncheck the box and it rechecks it. I imported the xml file

mallman said:
i did this as well but now i cant seem to re-enable anything. I uncheck the box and it rechecks it. I imported the xml file
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Turns out uninstalling both apps and reinstalling them fixed it. Definitely noticably faster

mallman said:
i did this as well but now i cant seem to re-enable anything. I uncheck the box and it rechecks it. I imported the xml file
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even if u delete the app and reboot?

I have around 20 apps disabled this way myself, and regularly get over 7 hours SOT. That includes spending 8 hours in poor signal areas and using WiFi Calling.

eduardmc said:
even if u delete the app and reboot?
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Right. Once rebooted it didn't work so removed and readded apps. Probably just my lucky day

NotATreoFan said:
I have around 20 apps disabled this way myself, and regularly get over 7 hours SOT. That includes spending 8 hours in poor signal areas and using WiFi Calling.
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V30 is great for battery life even with no app disable. This is more about making the snappier. i do get 7 - 8 plus sot on every charge.

I've done this on other phones, so I know how, but when I import and set, the apps don't get disabled. I have to go through manually. Any idea why?

I've been using this since this morning including the XML file. Seems to be working great although I haven't been paying enough attention to know whether or not battery life has improved. At the very least it's worth it to know that I can get rid of all of the bloatware.

eduardmc said:
V30 is great for battery life even with no app disable. This is more about making the snappier. i do get 7 - 8 plus sot on every charge.
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Exactly. Just have to be careful that you don't disable too much. You can accidentally disable things that seem like bloat, but somewhere deep in the system settings, another app/feature could be looking for it. I played that game for weeks getting the debloat of my V20 ROMs just right.

the app doesn't work for me for some reason. I run it, import the xml file, it says "107 packages disabled" or something like that, then reboot my phone, and check how many packages are disabled, and it says only 3. Whenever I import the xml file I never see it actually put a checkmark next to any packages to disable.
Any ideas what's going on? I've already uninstalled/reinstalled and it does the same thing. Do I manually need to give the app certain permissions?
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I now went through the steps to make the app an owner app from adb, and I successfully was able to run the command (removed all my accounts, ran the command, re-added my accounts). Still, nothing actually disables.

OK, just tried this with Package Disabler (not the LG specific one) and it bricked my phone. I'm now stuck on the white T-Mobile screen and the phone won't load. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

Who can rut tests on just freshly unboxed V30? So we could measure if we can get it faster

Japultra said:
OK, just tried this with Package Disabler (not the LG specific one) and it bricked my phone. I'm now stuck on the white T-Mobile screen and the phone won't load. Does anyone know how I can fix this?
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You are not bricked. Not from disabling packages. You will have to factory reset to get back up and running,

Is Greenify needed in Oreo?

I've been using Greenify for a while now on previous phones, but knowing about battery management options in Nougat and Oreo, I wonder if using it is still beneficial on the S9. So, any advice or feedback is more than welcome!

I was wondering the same.

I wouldn't explicitly say it's a necessity anymore since it literally asks you to put anything you don't use into sleep / hibernation mode, where it won't run in the background until you activate it yourself again.
I'm not sure how this works with notifications from Facebook, etc, but... hey.
And I don't think system bloatware can be touched by it, but this is why you use BK Package Manager or Package Disabler Pro + (both work for non-rooted.)

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I wouldn't explicitly say it's a necessity anymore since it literally asks you to put anything you don't use into sleep / hibernation mode, where it won't run in the background until you activate it yourself again.
I'm not sure how this works with notifications from Facebook, etc, but... hey.
And I don't think system bloatware can be touched by it, but this is why you use BK Package Manager or Package Disabler Pro + (both work for non-rooted.)
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Thanks for your feedback. It'd be good to have the app dev answer this in greater detail, to see pros and cons of Oreo battery management vs. Greenify. As for using bloatware disablers on the S9, I still haven't checked any out.

Coming from the S7, I have to say I'm really impressed with Oreo and the S9's battery optimization so far. It gives you a notification whenever a background app is using battery, and it seems to have optimized "Android System" and "Android OS" which was always a big problem for me in the past.

To add to this once again, you can also put apps into permanent sleep (basically hibernation as I said above,) and they will not be allowed to execute themselves in the background I believe. I haven't been watching my processes, but they indeed never get asked to be put to sleep again by the system and aren't shown to be using battery. That said, I'm thoroughly impressed; it's just a shame you can't disable some system apps. Hopefully in the near future we'll have a mod that'll let system apps show up in the sleep menu.

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To add to this once again, you can also put apps into permanent sleep (basically hibernation as I said above,) and they will not be allowed to execute themselves in the background I believe. I haven't been watching my processes, but they indeed never get asked to be put to sleep again by the system and aren't shown to be using battery. That said, I'm thoroughly impressed; it's just a shame you can't disable some system apps. Hopefully in the near future we'll have a mod that'll let system apps show up in the sleep menu.
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Found this opinion:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74886043&postcount=2

Interesting maybe?
http://greenifyapk.com/greenify-apk-oreo/

Guatiao said:
Found this opinion:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74886043&postcount=2
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I agree with them.
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Guatiao said:
Interesting maybe?
http://greenifyapk.com/greenify-apk-oreo/
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The overview on the update sounds like a standard developer trying to get the audience's attention for how important the app is.
However, there's no mention of Oreo's built in Power Saving / Sleep functions at all, which leads me to believe there's little to no benefit other than automated tasks.

Oreo Greenify
Guatiao said:
I've been using Greenify for a while now on previous phones, but knowing about battery management options in Nougat and Oreo, I wonder if using it is still beneficial on the S9. So, any advice or feedback is more than welcome!
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In my opinion it's device dependent since nougat as well as software version, freeze applications you don't use, changing what notifications you receive is more successful saving the battery than Greenify on my devices, all HTC had less successful on Samsung with identical settings, there is too many viable even with identical devices as you can be lucky or unlucky, as all manufacturing has tolerances

I didn't try with Oreo, but with Nougat (Resurrection Remix) on my G2 D802 I had to install Greenify to force aggressive Doze, otherwise Doze didn't often kick in, plus android alone could not stop a couple of apps, so I think it really depends on what ROM and apps are installed on the device.