Want to use Google Now instead of Voice Mate - Possible? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am a motorcycle rider and recently switched to LG G4 from iPhone 6. I would be a happy camper if I had something on par with siri. I have a bluetooth (SENA) headset installed in my helmet. I need the ability to activate Google Now so that I can say things like "Navigate to _____," "Call _______," Read my messages, etc. etc.
Voice Mate doesn't work. I hit the button and nothing happens...it ends up getting locked up or something.
Is there a way to use Google Now when i click the button on my bluetooth device?
Why would LG even feature Voice Mate over Google Now when it is SO FAR BEHIND. Makes zero sense not to give us the option to use the Google feature on a google phone (the reason I end up always going back to apple...)

You're trying to activate Google Now with the screen off?
As far as I know, GN does not activate with the screen off unless it's plugged into a charging device. You can see this from the settings --> voice --> "OK Google" detection. I am unaware of how Voice Mate works, since I disabled it from the start.
Does the iPhone allow you to activate Siri while screen's off?

Yeah there's a voice dialer app on the g4, locate it and disable it in settings. The g4 will them redirect to Google now! Don't think you can disable voice mate but it won't activate without the voice dialer app
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I bet you can accomplish this. I have an annoying bug where most times I plug my regular headset in, the phone thinks I'm plugging in a headset+mic, and launches google now (it used to try to launch the LG voice mate, but after installing the ZV6 update, it launches google now).
So, if you could just duplicate that, maybe cut the wires and splice a new switch to duplicate whatever my malfunction is, it might work? Have you updated to the latest Over The Air update?

Use the Debloater tool on XDA to disable the VoiceMate apk. That's how I got Google Now to work on a long press on the middle button from my headphones.
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I am NOT trying to activate it via voice at all. I simply want Google now to work when I push the button on my bluetooth device. Yes sir I does this s.

To do that I would have to have root. Is that very difficult to accomplish on the LG g4?

Thank you Cor-master! That worked!

JeffXT said:
Use the Debloater tool on XDA to disable the VoiceMate apk. That's how I got Google Now to work on a long press on the middle button from my headphones.
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Cor-master said:
Yeah there's a voice dialer app on the g4, locate it and disable it in settings. The g4 will them redirect to Google now! Don't think you can disable voice mate but it won't activate without the voice dialer app
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Sfkn2 said:
You're trying to activate Google Now with the screen off?
As far as I know, GN does not activate with the screen off unless it's plugged into a charging device. You can see this from the settings --> voice --> "OK Google" detection. I am unaware of how Voice Mate works, since I disabled it from the start.
Does the iPhone allow you to activate Siri while screen's off?
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I was simply hoping for Google Now whenever I pressed the button on my Bluetooth.

Voyaging said:
I was simply hoping for Google Now whenever I pressed the button on my Bluetooth.
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That's what it does when you disable the voice dialer. Seriously I gave a plantronics headset and an arctic sound Bluetooth speaker in which I both push the button to activate Google now and keep my phone in my pocket. All you have to do is disable the voice dialer app that's it. The voice dialer is what comes up by default not voice mate
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Voyaging said:
Thank you Cor-master! That worked!
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Sorry didn't see this before I replied. Glad to hear!
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Cor-master said:
That's what it does when you disable the voice dialer. Seriously I gave a plantronics headset and an arctic sound Bluetooth speaker in which I both push the button to activate Google now and keep my phone in my pocket. All you have to do is disable the voice dialer app that's it. The voice dialer is what comes up by default not voice mate
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Sorry didn't see this before I replied. Glad to hear!
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Yeah - I'm not very good at forums. I'm figuring out how to quote in replies so it's easier to follow. Thats on me. Thanks again for this simple solution. I do A LOT of motorcycling. To push the bluetooth button and be able to say "navigate to _____" is huge for me. Thanks to you, i can now do that. bravo!

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S Voice

So I had heard from everyone how bad S-voice is and I almost didn't even use it. However, I started using it yesterday and so far it's great. It transcribes me almost perfectly and it is much easier to send text messages and call people versus remembering the exact syntax for google search. Also, the ability to snooze my alarm this morning without having to fumble half-asleep for my phone by simply saying "Snooze" is amazing. Has one else been pleasantly surprised as well?
Bottom line -- this phone just keeps getting better.
PS Is there anyway to use the voice controls that Samsung has for the stock music app for the google music app? Or is there a way to connect the samsung music player to my google music songs in the cloud? Thanks
Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).
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Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).
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Nice. Is there a way to change the long press on the home button to bring up Google Voice instead of S-Voice?
I usually use and prefer Google Now, but have used S-voice to add appointments to my calendar as Google Now doesn't do it directly. S-voice is also the default voice command app when I use my Bluetooth headset, and it works well for calls.
But in general it's MUCH slower than Google Now to find or look up things (weather, local restaurants).
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Nice. Is there a way to change the long press on the home button to bring up Google Voice instead of S-Voice?
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I would like to know this as well, or if anyone has some tips of how to access google now quickly.
Right now I have the shortcut on my lockscreen, the google search bar on my homescreen, and can long-press the menu button from the homescreen. None of these methods seems to directly activate Google Now to listen to me though, I still have to tap the microphone. I'd like to be able to use it like I did with Siri on my iPhone...
check out home2shortcut app on play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...0.appspot.home2shortcut&feature=search_result
Milkman00 said:
Nice. Is there a way to change the long press on the home button to bring up Google Voice instead of S-Voice?
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lmike6453 said:
check out home2shortcut app on play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...0.appspot.home2shortcut&feature=search_result
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Excellent suggestion. Thank you. It does add in a slight delay now when I press the home button, but being able to double-tap to Voice Search is awesome. Wish it would work on the lockscreen too...
UCLAKoolman said:
Right now I have the shortcut on my lockscreen, the google search bar on my homescreen, and can long-press the menu button from the homescreen. None of these methods seems to directly activate Google Now to listen to me though[.] I still have to tap the microphone.
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In Google Voice Search Menu>Settings>Voice, select Hotword Detection. Then when you start Google Voice Search, you can say "Google" instead of tapping the mic to get started.
Guys, if you are at home already, click and hold menu key, launches Google Now. Then no delay on home key. But now you have some options
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hrivner said:
PS Is there anyway to use the voice controls that Samsung has for the stock music app for the google music app? Or is there a way to connect the samsung music player to my google music songs in the cloud? Thanks
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I froze the stock music player with Titanium BU and tested with S voice (hoping to get a prompt to choose a music player) and it just sits there
Google now, say "play Journey" it will prompt which music player you want to use (as long as you have a few options) and then you'd be set.
Rockasama said:
Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).
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Wow. That helped a lot since I'm not a s voice fan. Thanks for the tip!
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Long press the menu button & Google now/search will come up
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Rockasama said:
Guys, if you are at home already, click and hold menu key, launches Google Now. Then no delay on home key. But now you have some options
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I froze the stock music player with Titanium BU and tested with S voice (hoping to get a prompt to choose a music player) and it just sits there
Google now, say "play Journey" it will prompt which music player you want to use (as long as you have a few options) and then you'd be set.
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Google now isnt google search tho.
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So far I am finding S Voice much more useful for activity integrated to the device wheras google Now is more useful for searches.
Example With Svoice I can ask for a particualr song and it will play it. Same to launch an app or text someone check schedule.....
I am finding that with Google now it will launch music player to a group but not a specific song etc.....
Thanks! OP!!!!! That was an incredible piece of info.
Rockasama said:
Here's another tip about S voice , if you or others didn't know about it already. Open your app tray or anything else then click home button on bottom of the phone. There will be a slight delay. Sorry to point this out because most people I show didn't notice it until I said something.
Now go into S voice and remove the setting "Open via home key".
Now click the home key and enjoy your instant back to home with greater speed
The home button is waiting to ensure that you didn't mean to double click it. So with this setting off its like 'no reason to wait take em home'.
(Doesn't mean you can't use s'voice again just put it on a shortcut).
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This does remove the lag, but it also (for my ROM anyway), changes how a press of the home button functions when your screen is off.
With this option unchecked, a press of the home button when the screen is off opens to my home screen, rather than just waking the device to display the last app you were running when display was turned off (very annoying for me). Thus, I have just been dealing with the lag to get the desired wake screen behavior. If anyone knows a way around this, it would be appreciated.
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This does remove the lag, but it also (for my ROM anyway), changes how a press of the home button functions when your screen is off.
With this option unchecked, a press of the home button when the screen is off opens to my home screen, rather than just waking the device to display the last app you were running when display was turned off (very annoying for me). Thus, I have just been dealing with the lag to get the desired wake screen behavior. If anyone knows a way around this, it would be appreciated.
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I actually posted a thread about how the home button removes everything and takes me to the home screen immediately. I guess this was the culprit. Hmmmmm.....

[Q] Answer call via voice command

Hello!
After setting up my new note II 3 days ago, i noticed a text in the notification bar pointing out to answer or reject an incomming call via voice command. Today i wanted to test this feature, but it seems i disabled it accidentialy...Now i can't find it in the settings anywhere.
Can someone help me with a little hint?
Sun
Sun2down said:
Hello!
After setting up my new note II 3 days ago, i noticed a text in the notification bar pointing out to answer or reject an incomming call via voice command. Today i wanted to test this feature, but it seems i disabled it accidentialy...Now i can't find it in the settings anywhere.
Can someone help me with a little hint?
Sun
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I think this setting might be buried in the S-Voice settings.
S-voice >> Settings >> Application control
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S-voice >> Settings >> Application control
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Ok, found it. Now i have to wait for a second phone to test it.
Option is enabled, but doesn't work with incomming call
Any other idea?
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Sun2down said:
Option is enabled, but doesn't work with incomming call
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You have to disable vibration on the phone. Enable sound is ok but do not enable vibration. Set ring tone a little lower and shout "answer" or "reject".
Ok, will try that. But why is the text in notificatin bar gone?
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Suddenly the text reappeared and the feature works. Can't say why....
Tx so far for all your help.
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Sun2down said:
Suddenly the text reappeared and the feature works. Can't say why....
Tx so far for all your help.
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I am also having this issue. Its driving me crazy. On my iphone it was not an issue. But this new note 2 and my new voyager legend its not letting me answer the incoming call with my voice I have to take my hand off the wheel and hit the button to answer. Ive tried going into the svoice settings and doing what you guys recommended as well as disabling the vibrations. Still mothing.
You have to disable vibration on the phone. Only leave sound enabled and it should work.
I was having the same problem until I saw this thread today.
Same here.. It wasn't working and I even tried a factory reset. Lately I saw this thread and now it started working. No vibration should be enabled for this function to work. The popup message had already said this but I mistook it for the silent mode with vibration and kept on trying different ways. But the point as clear from above is, vibration should be fully disabled and the phone shoud be in ring only mode for answer via voice feature to function properly...

Voice Input on LG Keyboard

Anyone know how to get voice input on the LG Keyboard? I have added it in the menu but the handwriting pencil appears instead. I do not want to use LG Voice over Google TTS. I hope there is a way to activate this because I kinda like this keyboard.
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Anyone know how to get voice input on the LG Keyboard? I have added it in the menu but the handwriting pencil appears instead. I do not want to use LG Voice over Google TTS. I hope there is a way to activate this because I kinda like this keyboard.
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Did you find out how to fix it? I have the same problem...
Anybody?
Am I really the only one with this problem ?
On my Verizon g3 I have a gear icon to the left of the space bar. Long press it and select voice input.
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On my Verizon g3 I have a gear icon to the left of the space bar. Long press it and select voice input.
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I have no microphone under after pressing on the gear, that's the problem.
I have checked with another keyboard (Swiftkey) and the voice input works like a charm! So my problem obviously comes from the LG Keybpard itself... But what??
Anyone??? :crying:

Google Assistant - No audible acknowledgement

If the screen is not visible, when I say "OK Google" there is no audible tone to say she is listening, is there a setting to turn this on?
I just experienced the same today.
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Are you sure you are not connected to a bluetooth device?
That was the only time I had this issue... When in my car, bluetooth connected, I would not get any audio feedback. Realized it was coming via bluetooth and disconnected.
Good luck and let us know!
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Are you sure you are not connected to a bluetooth device?
That was the only time I had this issue... When in my car, bluetooth connected, I would not get any audio feedback. Realized it was coming via bluetooth and disconnected.
Good luck and let us know!
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That would be it. Never thought of that being the issue. No big deal to me.
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No, I have Bluetooth turned off. The only feedback I get from Assistant is a very slight vibration and the on-screen animation of the 4 colored dots. What sort of notification do you get?
Thanks.
This is normal and frankly welcomed lol the crackling beep that would previously sound off was not appealing.
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No, I have Bluetooth turned off. The only feedback I get from Assistant is a very slight vibration and the on-screen animation of the 4 colored dots. What sort of notification do you get?
Thanks.
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Ran into the same exact problem.... when I first got the phone it would make a noise to notify you it's listening after saying "OK google". For some reason even with the volume all the way up and everything turned on (voice set to 'on', rather than hands-free) it no longer makes any noise or responds, only a slight vibrate.
I called tech support and they told me this is not normal (duh), and had me factory reset... same thing, it persists... so they are mailing me a new phone.
peejayw said:
No, I have Bluetooth turned off. The only feedback I get from Assistant is a very slight vibration and the on-screen animation of the 4 colored dots. What sort of notification do you get?
Thanks.
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It's a bug. If you go to Settings>Accessibility>Switch Access> and turn it ON the audible tone will return. I've talked with support and gotten nowhere.
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It's a bug. If you go to Settings>Accessibility>Switch Access> and turn it ON the audible tone will return. I've talked with support and gotten nowhere.
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Wow your my hero, was so irritated by this.... what the hell is switch access? The settings for it don't really explain what it does..
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Wow your my hero, was so irritated by this.... what the hell is switch access? The settings for it don't really explain what it does..
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Yep, It drove me crazy too. I do know that activating switch access solved the audible notification issue, but it adds another. Check out your camera while switch access is activated. There are added zoom and 5 second burst options. I just hope they get this bug worked out.
N3V3RS3TTL3 said:
Yep, It drove me crazy too. I do know that activating switch access solved the audible notification issue, but it adds another. Check out your camera while switch access is activated. There are added zoom and 5 second burst options. I just hope they get this bug worked out.
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So I figured out if you disable the talkback app it kills both talkback and switch access under accessibility, which seems to fix it as well!
And that explains those buttons in camera lol.. was wondering why those randomly kept popping up. Even with switch access disabled I was randomly getting them...
EDIT- Nevermind, it only works after you disabled talkback if switch access was on when you disabled talkback, and only until you reboot. So it must leave a service running even after disabling talkback. So I guess we're stuck with it on...
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lol gdi... now it ding's twice if you say 'ok google' when the screen is off....
THESE ARE STUPID PROBLEMS TO HAVE GOOGLE...
After first day of using my phone I noticed that assistant wasn't making confirmation tone after I would say Okay Google.
Today someone on the pixel Facebook group just happened to mention it and offered Google advice on how to fix it.
Go to settings > accessibility > enable "switch access".
Mine works now, how about yours?
From what I've read on other forums, enabling Switch Access also puts play controls on your YouTube screen (it is an accessibility helper after all). I'd rather have no Assistant acknowledgement tone than put up with those controls on my screen.
Has anyone found an actual solution to this problem yet? Its been a few months now.
Ok, we need to get this straight. The beep was removed by Google intentionally, so it's not a bug. Since they consider this a "feature", there will not be a way to "fix" it. Next, the Switch Access is NOT a fix. It's a workaround. And, just like many workarounds, it solves one problem and gives you another -- in my case, my volume control no longer work.

Question Anyone know of a quick way to enable/disable "Hey Google"?

As the title suggests, anyone know of a quick way to achieve this?
I'd love something like a quick toggle or widget.
It may be possible to add a shortcut to the activity, via a custom launcher like Nova, to bring up the Google Assistant settings menu. Which would offer some speed compared manually navigating there.
Though if someone knows of a widget or quick toggle addition which I've not been able to find, let us know!
Also similarly, how do find the battery hit, if any, by having "Hey Google" voice activation running all the time?
Goggle Assistant is one of the first packages I disable. Temporarily disabling Google play Services might kill it too... lol, I run like that most of the time. You need to disable find my device as a Administrative Assistant first probably to do that.
Package Disabler allows you to set a widget to toggle selected package on/off real time. It's primarily for Samsung phones but there's a version for other phone manufacturers. I never tested that variant. They respond to emails.
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Goggle Assistant is one of the first packages I disable. Temporarily disabling Google play Services might kill it too... lol, I run like that most of the time. You need to disable find my device as a Administrative Assistant first probably to do that.
Package Disabler allows you to set a widget to toggle selected package on/off real time. It's primarily for Samsung phones but there's a version for other phone manufacturers. I never tested that variant. They respond to emails.
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Hmm but if I disable it then it'll indeed be completely disabled.
Perhaps I should have been more explicit, its the "Hey Google" voice detection I'd like to quickly toggle on/off.
I have Google speakers at home, but for example, it'd be great to be able to toggle my phone to respond to the voice command with the flick of a switch (home screen widget perhaps) rather than go through the settings, which of course would be pure laziness and save me a few seconds. But, this is Android after all, anything is possible
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Hmm but if I disable it then it'll indeed be completely disabled.
Perhaps I should have been more explicit, its the "Hey Google" voice detection I'd like to quickly toggle on/off.
I have Google speakers at home, but for example, it'd be great to be able to toggle my phone to respond to the voice command with the flick of a switch (home screen widget perhaps) rather than go through the settings, which of course would be pure laziness and save me a few seconds. But, this is Android after all, anything is possible
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Problem is Google is a vampire of a data miner and not to be trusted. Do you really want it to have mic or camera access at all?
Especially in your home?
I've never explored toggling it, just killing it.
Samsung's bixby is another one, after reading its eula it was so disabled
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Problem is Google is a vampire of a data miner and not to be trusted. Do you really want it to have mic or camera access at all?
Especially in your home?
I've never explored toggling it, just killing it.
Samsung's bixby is another one, after reading its eula it was so disabled
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I certainly understand peoples hesitancy with Google and such privacy concerns, but I for one aren't that fussed.... I have my speakers listening and it doesn't bother me....
Each to their own though and yeah I can see why you and others choose to disable such features entirely
it already has a tile in quick settings called Mic Access for me. does exactly what you want.
Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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No, they're talking about the ability to say "Hey Google" or "Okay Google" to get their phone to start listening. The previous poster's suggestion about the Mic access Quick Tile might be the best answer.
The OP is looking for a way to temporarily turn off it's ability to be woken up by voice command, and to just as easily re-enable it.
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it already has a tile in quick settings called Mic Access for me. does exactly what you want.
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This is kind of a solution, though this would also disable all mic access presumably and not just per-app, so I'd need to toggle it back on to make phone calls etc.
I probably just need to not be lazy and manually go to the setting when needed lol
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Are you talking about the short press on power button that activates Google Assistant? Or am I misunderstanding your question?
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Thanks, though specifically I'd like to be able to toggle the hey Google voice detection. Eg it not listening all the time, but at the flick of a switch, listen for it and activate the assistant
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Thanks, though specifically I'd like to be able to toggle the hey Google voice detection. Eg it not listening all the time, but at the flick of a switch, listen for it and activate the assistant
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Maybe a combination of Tasker and Auto Voice will work? Idk, but check out the thread below where someone talks about an "always listening" mode. May be too much effort for the result though.
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...t-to-toggle-ok-google-detection-always-on-off
Lughnasadh said:
Maybe a combination of Tasker and Auto Voice will work? Idk, but check out the thread below where someone talks about an "always listening" mode. May be too much effort for the result though.
https://android.stackexchange.com/q...t-to-toggle-ok-google-detection-always-on-off
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Thanks for this, will have a look into it.
Appreciated!

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