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I want my watch to look like a watch. Any apps for always on mode?

So like the title says I want my watch to always be on. So not ambient mode I hate the on and off crap. I want a dimmed but always on watch face if possible. Not worried about battery. Any suggestions?

There's a launcher (?) I think called Swipify I've seen mentioned multiple times for this. There's also at least one face available for purchase on the Play Store that allows you to choose how long it stays on, including always on. I bought it for that gimmick but never really used it. I think it's the "A06 for Moto 360" face.
In any case, understand that "always on" won't make your watch any more a watch than it will a brick, as you're looking at probably less than one hour of battery life with the screen always on.

1 hour is exaggerating. Either way the whole point of these things should be to be a watch first and foremost, and a notification hub second. LG G watch has a always on option built in and it lasts all day just fine, so I do not think what im asking is too absurd.

Well, you're asking if there are apps to do that. I answered that much.
But as far as what you're hoping you'll get, you seriously need to readjust your expectations. It sounds like you didn't do your homework prior to buying this watch. Undoubtedly this is the nicest looking smart watch now. But the battery life is not great. I get about a full day's worth with the screen turning off constantly.
I can guarantee you, you will not get a full day's battery of this watch with the screen always on. I don't know much about the LG G Watch, but I also highly doubt the whole day of battery you're talking about is with the screen on always.
I get what you're saying. It would be ideal. But battery technology is not at a point where it can power a full LCD screen for a whole day on a single battery charge. Try either of the ones I suggested and see how far it gets you. I might do it just for testing purposes at some point.

Take it down a notch bud. I did a lot of research before I bought this device. Perhaps you should do some with the way screens operate. You can in other similar watches like the G watch have everything turn off and throttle down but keep the time on the screen. The g watch turns everything to black and keeps the time and date still on screen. No reason this watch cannot do the same. I was merely asking if an app was released yet that does this. As most apps like the one you listed does this but keeps the CPU throttled up and the screen drawing more power. Hence why the battery gets killed. Do some research before talking next time. there are a million videos on youtube showing you exactly what im talking about.
Love the watch not complaining, I just want to squeez all the goodness out of it I can.

iMurderous said:
1 hour is exaggerating. Either way the whole point of these things should be to be a watch first and foremost, and a notification hub second. LG G watch has a always on option built in and it lasts all day just fine, so I do not think what im asking is too absurd.
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The difference is because of the display technology. As you know (or may not?), LCDs illuminate the entire display, whereas OLEDs (LG, Asus, Samsung) only illuminate the individual pixels, thus reducing power consumption by utilizing a simpler display graphic to use as the 'always on' portion.
To have your Moto 360 always on would be a huge drain on the battery life because of the power consumption to illuminate the display. LCDs are simply not capable of selectively illuminating pixels.

kloan said:
The difference is because of the display technology. As you know (or may not?), LCDs illuminate the entire display, whereas OLEDs (LG, Asus, Samsung) only illuminate the individual pixels, thus reducing power consumption by utilizing a simpler display graphic to use as the 'always on' portion.
To have your Moto 360 always on would be a huge drain on the battery life because of the power consumption to illuminate the display. LCDs are simply not capable of selectively illuminating pixels.
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To be fair, the G watch is also LCD. The gear live is amoled.

SilentAce07 said:
To be fair, the G watch is also LCD. The gear live is amoled.
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Well I was referring to the R, which I assumed is what he was referring to as well... but if he's saying the LG G watch is capable of that, then I dunno what to say.

kloan said:
Well I was referring to the R, which I assumed is what he was referring to as well... but if he's saying the LG G watch is capable of that, then I dunno what to say.
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The reason the g watch is able to is because it's built with a larger battery. I had the g watch briefly and it was nice in terms of battery but just didn't hold a candle to the 360 IMO. It is a quality device though.

I'd like an always on option as well for my moto 360.

The always on mode ...is not actually a always on totally. ..it just dims to show only the dials and not the back ground. ..the lg g watch R and the gear live with oled screens will burn in if they are totally always on. .
But yes. .using apps like facer..you can select which layer you can keep dimmed on always on mode on the lg g watch. ..but that will eat battery up.
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WatchMaker lets you set up to 30s stay awake.

Lol. Dude, you really need to do your research. You'd get MAYBE three hours max with the screen on like that. Your attitude against people who are trying to inform you and help you (you know because that's the point of your post where YOU asked for OUR help) is atrocious. If you knew it all you wouldn't need to ask this question. The first guy who responded to you gave you real experience and opinion, and you told him he was exaggerating and to "take it down a notch". Lol.
Ridiculous. Hope you find what you're looking for. Let us know the moment you can get a full day of screen on time with the 360. I won't hold my breath.
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Not sure if this helps but like you I like a watch to be a watch and very close second I really like all the features for notifications that the smart watches make. I have had my Moto 360 for a little over a week now and I use it for keeping time and getting the basic notifications like SMS, Emails and Google Now info like weather. I do not have any other apps installed and with the Ambient Mode ON and brightness set to 2 I have been able to get 36 hours (at most) out of it with light to moderate use . The watch face I use is the preinstalled digital one. It dims just right but it will go to a black screen when there is very little movement detected. I can very slightly move my wrist and it will activate the dimmed time mode so I can see it without having to drastically twist my wrist and bring the watch up to my face.
Hope that helps.
If you find what you are looking please be sure to share as I am interested in this also.

Just to satisfy curiosity, I went ahead and tried this "always on" thing. I used the "A06 for Moto 360" face I mentioned in my initial reply, which is paid for on the Play Store so I won't link. It's not that great looking either, but it does have the option to have the watch Always On.
So, fully charged, I disconnected from the charger at 12:16 PM and changed the face to the one in question. I enabled Always On and set Brightness to max. With no usage of the watch other than to swipe away notifications and to use as a watch (i.e. looking at it for the time), the battery ran out exactly at 4:54 PM, or 4 hours and 38 minutes later. Admittedly, this was longer than my estimated one hour battery life, but again I wasn't doing anything with the watch. I didn't reply to messages, I didn't play games, I didn't check my heartbeat, I didn't control music. Only swipe away notifications and look at the time. Not quite 5 hours.
I guess it may be worth it if you're using a fancy face and going out for a date or something and you're fully charged before going. But it's useless as a daily driver with that kind of battery life.

Your very wrong. First and foremost it should be a watch. I bought a pebble for that same reason. Now before you go saying it's different due to it's e-ink display, I also own a Microsoft band and it's a color screen. I have my band with the watch always on and I user the sleep monitor every night. It easily lasts through almost 2 days and that's with constant notifications and checking pulse often.
It can most definitely be done.

YanivC said:
Your very wrong. First and foremost it should be a watch. I bought a pebble for that same reason. Now before you go saying it's different due to it's e-ink display, I also own a Microsoft band and it's a color screen. I have my band with the watch always on and I user the sleep monitor every night. It easily lasts through almost 2 days and that's with constant notifications and checking pulse often.
It can most definitely be done.
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So a galaxy gear S with tizen OS and amoled screen. With a large display and 3g, WiFi,GPS and phone calling with only 300mah will work for 2 days....
The moto 360 will not... Just accept it and move along
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So what's the point of wanting the screen always on? Are your eyes on the screen with your hands at your sides? Are you trying to show off? I don't think the whole "it should be a watch first & foremost" thing is a good enough excuse. As far as I can see, I can tell the time just fine without the screen being on 24/7. As a matter of fact, I guarantee I can tell the time every single time you can if we check our watches at the same time. No added functionality. Decrease in battery life. I see no win here. But to each there own. Charge your watch every 3 hours. I'm happy charging mine every night.

It's definitely wanting others to see his watch when he's not looking at it. Otherwise they see a black screen. I wanted that too but then realized I couldn't and moved on.
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I only get 10-14 hours out of mine but I have a bunch of apps installed. Not sure where the battery drain is because its not like most of them stay running. Maybe google fit is the big drain, but its a nice feature and I don't need much more than 12 hours. Hopefully in the future this will get an easier root (without the interface clock) and an underclock for more battery life. That's very possible. I don't need my watch running at 1 GHz and I'm willing to bet the kernel is a huge part of the battery problem (as well as the smaller battery). But hacks could fix the watch I think.

[Q] Brighter dimmed watchface?

Hi guys,
During the daytime I want the "dimmed" watchface to be a bit brighter. Is there anyway to achieve this? Do you know of a watchface with a brighter dimmed screen?
Thanks!

in "dimmed" mode there is no backlight so u cant't adjust the "brightness".

tripleacs said:
Hi guys,
During the daytime I want the "dimmed" watchface to be a bit brighter. Is there anyway to achieve this? Do you know of a watchface with a brighter dimmed screen?
Thanks!
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Like billdanos says, the screen technology is called transflective LCD and it's pretty cool but you can't increase the brightness.

One major help is to make sure to use bold watchfaces so it reflects better

cykoduck said:
One major help is to make sure to use bold watchfaces so it reflects better
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Any good examples?

Actually, I decided to do one by myself. Used WatchMaker, took me few minutes. It is very nicely visible on SW3 with no backlight ("dimmed mode").

BartManX said:
Actually, I decided to do one by myself. Used WatchMaker, took me few minutes. It is very nicely visible on SW3 with no backlight ("dimmed mode").
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Hello,
just a question about WatchMaker, do you think it use abnormally the battery of watch and phone?
Thanks.

mickael91210 said:
just a question about WatchMaker, do you think it use abnormally the battery of watch and phone?
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Hard to tell. My approach is to charge SWR50 every 2nd night, and basically nothing changed here. Yet, I was not observing power consumption closely.

BartManX said:
Hard to tell. My approach is to charge SWR50 every 2nd night, and basically nothing changed here. Yet, I was not observing power consumption closely.
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Thanks for feedback, in my side even without a big usage i can't have more than one day+one night. So i tried without watchmaker to see...
Thanks.

mickael91210 said:
Thanks for feedback, in my side even without a big usage i can't have more than one day+one night. So i tried without watchmaker to see...
Thanks.
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I don't use watchmaker but another watch face app: Facer for Android Wear. 2 days-usage is very easy to achieve in my case: always screen-on (reflective screen) + normal usage + power-off in the night (I don't like wear anything when I sleep so I turn it off and left it during the whole night)
Almost 1.8% per hour battery consume is totally fine for me.

Which face from "Watchmaker" seems to be the brightest? I just downloaded it.

Question about Ambient Mode

I'm currently searching for an Android Wear watch and torn between the Moto 360 and Asus Zenwatch. I like the look of both of them. I feel the Moto360 will be more masculine, but the Zenwatch is more recent and has better specs screen/battery wise.
I've found conflicting/confusing information with all the updates Moto360 has received. So, is there a way for ambient mode on the 360 to stay on and if so, what is the battery life? Or is it that the ambient mode only stays on with stock watchfaces, but not custom?
I just don't know about having a giant black disk on my wrist when the watch is off, plus how 'future proof' is the Moto360 with its TI processor?
I know this is the Moto360 forum, but any feedback is appreciated.

Just a quick update to my question to make sure I understand.
The Moto360 will turn off when sideways, be in ambient mode when tilted, and full mode when tilted towards your face, correct?

That is correct and those were the two I was deciding went to best buy and liked the moto but that's the point which ever puts the biggest smile is the one you get. Yes the moto has some older specs but it works great battery is good and I use ambient mode quite a bit I like it better than tilt to wake
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BBowermaster said:
Just a quick update to my question to make sure I understand.
The Moto360 will turn off when sideways, be in ambient mode when tilted, and full mode when tilted towards your face, correct?
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You seem to be confusing tilt to wake with ambient mode .....
2 different things
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ben.nesheim said:
but that's the point which ever puts the biggest smile is the one you get.
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Thanks, unfortunately, none of the Best Buy's near me have the Asus in stock. My wife ordered one, so I may just wait for hers to arrive and compare it to the Moto 360 Best Buy had.
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You seem to be confusing tilt to wake with ambient mode .....
2 different things
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I understand that, but without tilt to wake, where does ambient mode come in to effect? Does your full watchface dim, then it goes to ambient mode for xx seconds, then goes dark? I had the Pebble, upgraded to the Gear 2, not realizing apps have to be coded to your phone to show up in the Gear store. But the Gear 2 had tilt to wake, and the lag or fact that sometimes it didn't turn on and I'd have to hit the button annoyed me.

In ambient mode when you raise your arm it will be dimmed instead of when tilt to wake is on it will come on full screen. Instead of timing out while looking at it it will go to ambient mode as well but then nearly half a second it turns off lol sorry I'm staring at my watch and phone but I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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Brightness Too Bright?

Just got my black Huawei watch tonight and just love it. But I have the dang brightness on 1 and this thing is still too bright! I know its night time right now but just sitting in a normal lighting room and you can see that thing on from way far even on ambient mode!!
Do u guys feel urs is bright at 1!!

You can try this app, which I was recommended in another thread:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.truedarkwear
You can set your display *really* dark with this app.
I did not like the toggle mechanism though.

Ambient rocks
Lepa79 said:
Just got my black Huawei watch tonight and just love it. But I have the dang brightness on 1 and this thing is still too bright! I know its night time right now but just sitting in a normal lighting room and you can see that thing on from way far even on ambient mode!!
Do u guys feel urs is bright at 1!!
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Turn off tilt,and find a good face that still looks good in ambient mode. I love Aviator.
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Hanger4life said:
Turn off tilt,and find a good face that still looks good in ambient mode. I love Aviator.
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Also,Aviator's face turns black,and hands turn outlined in white (dim) at night, sometime after 7pm automatically. Pretty cool. I'm getting 2 days with that face. Wifi on,tilt off,cloud on,gestures on,brightness 5,cards on,always on on.

foo said:
You can try this app, which I was recommended in another thread:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.truedarkwear
You can set your display *really* dark with this app.
I did not like the toggle mechanism though.
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Thank you. Looks promising. I'll give that a try sometime. For now, I am turning always on off at night.

foo said:
You can try this app, which I was recommended in another thread:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.truedarkwear
You can set your display *really* dark with this app.
I did not like the toggle mechanism though.
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Foo, one freaking amazing app. I can't believe it's free. This made my watch usable at night. Can not thank you enough. Happy as can be

I would agree with it being a bit too bright at night on level 1. I have mine on level 1 100% of the time since I bought the watch. The only time I have a problem is when I'm in direct sunlight.
Last night we were at a club, so I set the always on screen to on, and I liked the glow from the watch. Couple ppl spoke to me about the watch last night, and I've had a few others in other places comment on it as well.

dieselboy said:
I would agree with it being a bit too bright at night on level 1. I have mine on level 1 100% of the time since I bought the watch. The only time I have a problem is when I'm in direct sunlight.
Last night we were at a club, so I set the always on screen to on, and I liked the glow from the watch. Couple ppl spoke to me about the watch last night, and I've had a few others in other places comment on it as well.
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I'm on level 2 screen always on since I bought the watch a week ago. At night, I turn on the app recommended in this thread. Love it. Off the charger at 6am and back on the charger at 11pm with over 40‰ battery left.

foo said:
You can try this app, which I was recommended in another thread:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.truedarkwear
You can set your display *really* dark with this app.
I did not like the toggle mechanism though.
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Thanks for the recommendation, I can't believe it's needed. I do like the toggle though.

You can create darker faces using an overlay in something like Watchmaker too. Pretty easy to do. You can even set it to automatically get darker in the evenings.
But I agree brightness level 1 is sufficient for everything except direct sunlight and then I just flick on brightness boost.

Lepa79 said:
I'm on level 2 screen always on since I bought the watch a week ago. At night, I turn on the app recommended in this thread. Love it. Off the charger at 6am and back on the charger at 11pm with over 40‰ battery left.
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I'm turning my watch off when I go to bed and I'm getting 4 or 5 days out of a single charge now.

what is the name of the app? the link doesn't work anymore

The name is "SWApp True Dark Wear"
It's this app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/development/app-swapp-true-dark-wear-t2977161

heart rate monitor

Does anyone else feel that the heart rate monitor is useless.

laroktheblock said:
Does anyone else feel that the heart rate monitor is useless.
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true.. i wish they replace the sensor with a bigger battery.. or a compass at least
even if it work.. i still dont know.. why we should know our hear beat?! to make it useful it should work as heartbeat loop!

I don't think it's accurate and yes, I can easily live without it.

I find it handy when going for a run. I wish it would send the data to google fit or keep the heart rate data in-conjunction with weather, incline, steps etc...

I have dobbel checked my heart rate, and HW Censor works fine ! For me all ok .

Yes. Heart rate monitor is retarded. I guess if you use it for working out but if your serious you would have a more accurate dedicated unit.
The pedometer is also stupid to have on your wrist. I can be at me desk all day working and it says made like 6,000 steps. A pedometer should be at your waste.
Useless stuff like that are just gimmicks. Watches are for assisting with notifications.

From doing comparisions with a proper heart rate monitor the one on the W1 does seem quite accurate to be fair. None the less I don't really see the pint in having one on such a high end smartwatch, I can't imagine I'll ever wear this thing whilst working out.

I find the heart rate sensor to be useless if the band is not tight enough. Other than that, it stops working if too much sweat builds up.

Yes, this is useless for me at least. If it does not monitor during workout it can not alarm you on reaching your limit.

Not quite related but does anyone know why there is such a big discrepancy in step counts between Huawei fitness tracking and Google fit? Google gives me about 1000 steps more then Huawei.
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Step counter is stupid on a wrist. I work at my desk and it says I walked 5000+ steps. Bahaha yea right.
The heart rate monitor is also a gimmick. I honestly never used it. I guess some people would.

I was hoping to ditch my fitness tracker and have the Huawei watch be my single wearable, but the heart rate monitor is not up to the task. It does give a pretty accurate reading for me, but only at rest. I've tried exercising with it a few times and the monitor just stops recording after a few minutes. Sigh. I've gone back to using the Garmin Vivosmart HR for workouts.
As for step counting, the problem is exacerbated by being left handed. Doing things like brushing teeth, eating, etc. will add bogus numbers to my step counts. Since most, if not all, watches are designed to be worn on the left wrist this is a problem for us lefties. I started wearing the Garmin on my right wrist and find the false step padding to be less of an issue.
Bottom line is I'm still pleased that I got the watch, it's just not as useful as I was hoping for. Looking forward to the Marshmallow update...

^ditto! I mostly use this cool watch for exercise! Bring on marshmallow...

I use it for my sleep tracking, Sleep like android is great for this and does full all night tracking. I can have my watch on me all day, and tracking at night (double click to turn screen off so the battery lasts) and it charges in the AM while I get ready for work. My only issue is being on all night sometimes seems to start to burn my skin. I have to take it off my left, and put it on my right at night so my left can "heal".

i have used hearth rate only a few times in 1 month but now it don't works anymore ( like wrist gestures). I Will wait 1.4 firmware before sending it back to amazon. factory reset was useless

boboki said:
I use it for my sleep tracking, Sleep like android is great for this and does full all night tracking. I can have my watch on me all day, and tracking at night (double click to turn screen off so the battery lasts) and it charges in the AM while I get ready for work. My only issue is being on all night sometimes seems to start to burn my skin. I have to take it off my left, and put it on my right at night so my left can "heal".
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Sorry for off topic, but what is your thougths after tracking your sleep, did it change your quality of life or you are more aware of something than without this feature? what is adres value of this, do you sleep better, deeper, longer?

I use sleep monitors for already a few years (started with sleep as an droid, then miband, now hwatch). And yes: it improves hugely how i wake up. It awakes me earlier than alarm, but i feel less tired when I wake up, compared to without monitoring...
But it depends on how your personal sleep-habits are. If you almost always sleep well and feel good in the morning, you'll likely not have the benefit of the feature.
As for the skin: regularly clean your watch on the skin side with isopropyl alcohol.
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