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[Q] How good is the Desire's GPS and audio on headphones?

I have the Samsung Galaxy S 16GB but am about to return it due to the useless GPS and get a Desire (or eventually recover the money and buy a Desire later)
How accurate is the current Desire's GPS? Can anyone show me some MyTracks paths for instance?
Another thing that worries me is audio quality on the 3.5mm as I use the units a lot for music. How well does it behave with audiophile headphones? Including low-impedance ones.. any background hiss, etc?
The Galaxy S is really excellent at audio and the screen is amazing but I really need a well-balanced unit that includes a reliable GPS.

I have never had an issue with the GPS but I've only used it for in-car navigation every now and again. The sound on the Desire is acceptable for me. I'm using a pair of Klipsch Image X1s and it sound the same as, if not better than the iPod.
It does however seem to have a volume limiter on it which is bloody annoying! Still it's not an issue if you have a decent pair of 'phones.

Same expeirence here. Music quality on headphones is at least the same as on the ipod classic (old 80GB model). Gps outside has a quick fix (usually within 10 seconds) and i haven't had any signal los yet (except for tunnels and inside buildings).
steve228uk said:
I have never had an issue with the GPS but I've only used it for in-car navigation every now and again. The sound on the Desire is acceptable for me. I'm using a pair of Klipsch Image X1s and it sound the same as, if not better than the iPod.
It does however seem to have a volume limiter on it which is bloody annoying! Still it's not an issue if you have a decent pair of 'phones.
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A My Tracks sample for GPS accuracy. Unlike the Galaxy S, Desire never lost the signal.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...874704971674600592.00048b2dcdedf643cc518&z=14
Audio quality is almost as good as Galaxy S. Maybe a little bit noisy, but it's a phone after all.

h t t p://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&z=14&msid=106701584406805964837.00048ad075c8a785906d6 - another patch from MyTrack
Audio quality is at least comparable (or better) with iRiver T60 and better than in most ipods. I'm using Koss Porta Pro or AKG K416P headphones.

10 sec or less GPS fix on desire is only if using AGPS (you have the 3G so it can load satellite data). Otherwise it takes more than a minute. It helps if you are not moving.

pigbrother said:
A My Tracks sample for GPS accuracy. Unlike the Galaxy S, Desire never lost the signal.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...874704971674600592.00048b2dcdedf643cc518&z=14
Audio quality is almost as good as Galaxy S. Maybe a little bit noisy, but it's a phone after all.
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Thanks for the feedback.
I don't really care about the fast fixes. Don't mind waiting at all even if the initial gprs assistance is off. That I care about is accuracy and keeping the locks after the inicial fix. That is something the Galaxy can't do.
I gathered some more feedback about the audio and while the Desire seems weaker in that area it should be good enough for normal use.
One thing I'm now wondering is if it suffers from the same "lag" or occasional pauses that I got on the Galaxy. Sometimes it would pause for 2 or 3 seconds while some IO was happening, sometimes more. Perhaps I'll post that in a different thread.
Meanwhile if anyone has more GPS tracks (google maps is fine) especially driving in town, I'd like to see them. The ones I did with my Galaxy S are just scary and full of zig-zags... don't want that again.

I’ve used my desire to track routes with Maverick when out mountain biking in Portugal. I put it in my shorts pocket and it tracked me very accurately without any variations. I haven’t really used it in my car while driving. I can give it shot today and see what results I get. Obviously it’s not going to be as accurate while driving as it is when cycling because of the speed factor but I will let you know later on.

I have used my desire since I got it in April, as my Ipod, and Tom Tom and cycle computer. It does all these thing very well. I agree about the headphones, should be decent quality. Have not experienced any problems with music play back, while doing other things. Gps seems very accurate. The desire is now my main music device, there are several music apps which are better than the stock player, Mixzing is one and it now has an equalizer, which I don't use, but is there if you need it.

Hi Beowulf_pt I’ve uploaded two tracks I recorded yesterday when I was out driving. Both of them seem very accurate and don’t deviate or jump about at all. The 2nd one is over 34miles long and is very accurate. A lot of the roads I went down have tree/hedge coverage on both sides too. I you want to get a good idea of what the roads look like you can go onto Google earth street view as all of Northern Ireland has street view. I’m very impressed with the performance of the GPS on the desire anyway.
I hope this helps.
http://www.trialsworld.com/hosted/9%20Aug%2010%20Track%201.gpx
http://www.trialsworld.com/hosted/9%20Aug%2010%20Track%202.gpx

FSake said:
Hi Beowulf_pt I’ve uploaded two tracks I recorded yesterday when I was out driving. Both of them seem very accurate and don’t deviate or jump about at all.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...286,0.059996&z=14&iwloc=00048d2c27552512edb09
http://www.trialsworld.com/hosted/9%20Aug%2010%20Track%202.gpx
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Thanks for taking those, those don't have many low speed driving with lots of turning probably but in any case are very accurate, really pretty good.
If anyone wants a good laugh, this is what the great Desire's rival produces.. the mighty Samsung Galaxy S:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...09658333539209.00048d2c2727adf4f601e&t=h&z=13
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...09658333539209.00048d44b071f0237417b&t=h&z=14
I tried everything (except plugging in an external antenna yet) but it loses lock so often and is so imprecise that tracks look like that and navigation is pathetic.

It’s strange the results you got with the Samsung. It’s kind of understandable that it’s inaccurate between buildings but in areas that are quite open it’s bad as well. Did you try it with Assisted GPS (mobile internet) on? Admittedly I didn’t use it when I took mine but maybe it might help yours. The only City I could really use mine on is Belfast and I’m off at the moment so I would get the chance to try it for a few days. Belfast wouldn’t be in the same class as city as Lisbon. I still think the Desire would get a lot better results than the Samsung though.
I think the Samsung GPS chip has alzheimer's. It gets confused quite easily.

LG G PRO issues ?

I just got it yesterday and here is my exp
1. Even though I use it very carefully (still waiting for my case and screen protector arrive ), I have couples minors scratches on the screen (which I dont know why it happens on the Gorrila Glass)
2. Overheat auto dim brightness when I use maximum brightness about 15 mins
3. GPS sucks !!!
4. Sound quality so bad compare to my iphone 4s, especially when listening music by headphone (mine is Audio-Technica ATH-M50s/LE) or by AUX cable on my car. Iphone 4s give me louder and more crispy sound. This issues happens to me before with Nexus 4. I really doubt that Qualcom chipset sucks at music experience.

ptt1404 said:
I just got it yesterday and here is my exp
1. Even though I use it very carefully (still waiting for my case and screen protector arrive ), I have couples minors scratches on the screen (which I dont know why it happens on the Gorrila Glass)
2. Overheat auto dim brightness when I use maximum brightness about 15 mins
3. GPS sucks !!!
4. Sound quality so bad compare to my iphone 4s, especially when listening music by headphone (mine is Audio-Technica ATH-M50s/LE) or by AUX cable on my car. Iphone 4s give me louder and more crispy sound. This issues happens to me before with Nexus 4. I really doubt that Qualcom chipset sucks at music experience.
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GPS sucks for me too....as for the rest never had a problem
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ptt1404 said:
I just got it yesterday and here is my exp
1. Even though I use it very carefully (still waiting for my case and screen protector arrive ), I have couples minors scratches on the screen (which I dont know why it happens on the Gorrila Glass)
2. Overheat auto dim brightness when I use maximum brightness about 15 mins
3. GPS sucks !!!
4. Sound quality so bad compare to my iphone 4s, especially when listening music by headphone (mine is Audio-Technica ATH-M50s/LE) or by AUX cable on my car. Iphone 4s give me louder and more crispy sound. This issues happens to me before with Nexus 4. I really doubt that Qualcom chipset sucks at music experience.
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are you going to return it?
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ptt1404 said:
I just got it yesterday and here is my exp
1. Even though I use it very carefully (still waiting for my case and screen protector arrive ), I have couples minors scratches on the screen (which I dont know why it happens on the Gorrila Glass)
2. Overheat auto dim brightness when I use maximum brightness about 15 mins
3. GPS sucks !!!
4. Sound quality so bad compare to my iphone 4s, especially when listening music by headphone (mine is Audio-Technica ATH-M50s/LE) or by AUX cable on my car. Iphone 4s give me louder and more crispy sound. This issues happens to me before with Nexus 4. I really doubt that Qualcom chipset sucks at music experience.
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1. not sure how people do this, are you tossing your phone in a pocket full of change or with your keys? Have diamonds in your pocket? I find that when I keep my phone and ONLY my phone in my pocket I never get scratches.
2. On full brightness with a 1080p movie playing I have had no overheating problems at all. And that was outside in the heat of the day.
3. I find the GPS takes a little to get a fix, but once it has it...its accurate and doesnt lose it.
4. The sound using my Klipsch S4 earbuds is just as good as it was on my Galaxy Note 2. The Bluetoth audio is just a tiny bit less clear but I am no audiophile and cant compare accurately due to my horrible hearing.
Of course these are my opinions. If you dont like the phone...return or sell it?

ptt1404 said:
I just got it yesterday and here is my exp
1. Even though I use it very carefully (still waiting for my case and screen protector arrive ), I have couples minors scratches on the screen (which I dont know why it happens on the Gorrila Glass)
2. Overheat auto dim brightness when I use maximum brightness about 15 mins
3. GPS sucks !!!
4. Sound quality so bad compare to my iphone 4s, especially when listening music by headphone (mine is Audio-Technica ATH-M50s/LE) or by AUX cable on my car. Iphone 4s give me louder and more crispy sound. This issues happens to me before with Nexus 4. I really doubt that Qualcom chipset sucks at music experience.
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not one single good thing listed in your experience with the device, yes i would return it and run along elsewhere.

Gorilla glass isn't hard to scratch, it's harder to break(given how thin the glass is it really is amazing that it doesn't break dropping out onto carpet).
I've had no GPS issues at all
I think the audio may have to do with the safe volume crap they have going on.
My issue is the stupid implementation of the emergency calling system..I've called 911 7 times in the 2 weeks I've had it. Press and hold!? That's the only thing my leg can do..I will return the phone over this issue
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Did you adjust the EQ settings? It has it built in so you can make many adjustments.

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For the GPS, do 2 things .Download GPS status from the play store and se how long it takes to show locked on GPS status app.If its taking long on an open area you have a defective unit.We have 3 OGP purchased at different times with no GPS issues whatsoever. The next step is connect to your home wi fi with no gps.Maps will tell you to change your settings you need to check and uncheck the GPD boxes several times to get the setting to take.
Glass issues,these days to scratch a glass like these take effort
Sound is similar to all devices,except HTC ONE.One of the threads within XDA has tested audio on all devices

ptt1404 said:
I just got it yesterday and here is my exp
1. Even though I use it very carefully (still waiting for my case and screen protector arrive ), I have couples minors scratches on the screen (which I dont know why it happens on the Gorrila Glass)
2. Overheat auto dim brightness when I use maximum brightness about 15 mins
3. GPS sucks !!!
4. Sound quality so bad compare to my iphone 4s, especially when listening music by headphone (mine is Audio-Technica ATH-M50s/LE) or by AUX cable on my car. Iphone 4s give me louder and more crispy sound. This issues happens to me before with Nexus 4. I really doubt that Qualcom chipset sucks at music experience.
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Not having any of these issues and I've had mine since launch. GPS locks very quickly for me.
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda premium

Also for GPS make sure you have location access turned on on your Google account setting. By default it's and Google maps won't get a fix....
Personally I have had Zero issues with this phone and get a very fast GPS lock.. fast all being relative to my LG Revolution I used to have before this device.
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda app-developers app

Not a single issue with this phone here, if it's Rick solid and everything works really well. Only thing I would say is to get a case cause it's very slippery.
Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk 2

Music volume is a little low for me , everything else is rock solid. No GPS issues at all
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Overall I think the OGP is a very good phone. Two things that do bother me are 1.) the music output is only mediocre. I have to say my Note 2 has much better sound quality. 2.) the screen is very reflective - it's a shame because the screen is very good but the reflections make it somewhat difficult to read off of in brighter conditions.

I seriously don't have any complains with this phone at all. Not even the slightest. Screen is fine for me in daylight at only 75% and its been sunny as hell here in Co. Audio output is great for me too. I use SD-9HD and they are loud. I have to turn it all the way up and then down 2 times so it doesn't stress the speakers. Phone getting hot has never been an issue and here in CO its been 90s for the past two weeks. As for the screen, you guys must have stuff in your pocket that super Sharp because I have coins and screws(I'm a copier technician) in my pocket with my phone and no scratches. Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know.
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MUSIC PLAYER should have a little "Dolby Digital" button on the bottom. Turn it on

I've got the GPS issue. But it's a minor squabble in an otherwise great phone.
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I'm a hardcore audio guy, and I'm very pleased with the OGP. Like most other flagship Android phones, the Pro supports USB audio. If you think the stock headphone jack on phone X sounds good, try listening to a high end portable DAC/Amp combo. I realize very few people are willing to carry an extra device around just for sound. But for the most audio obsessed of us, it's the only way. Built in speaker and headphone jack quality are essentially irrelevant.

nnotis said:
I'm a hardcore audio guy, and I'm very pleased with the OGP. Like most other flagship Android phones, the Pro supports USB audio. If you think the stock headphone jack on phone X sounds good, try listening to a high end portable DAC/Amp combo. I realize very few people are willing to carry an extra device around just for sound. But for the most audio obsessed of us, it's the only way. Built in speaker and headphone jack quality are essentially irrelevant.
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Can you charge at the same time?

raduque said:
Can you charge at the same time?
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I don't currently have a cable to allow that. It hasn't been an issue for me though, even when I was using a GS3. But there are cables out there that accommodate USB audio and simultaneous charging. For anyone interested in the subject, here's the thread on head-fi: http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs

iBlason personal review

Hey guys just thought i'd share my experience with the iBlason battery case for HTC One! Just some pros and cons, simple!
Pros-
- Doesn't get hot
- Good build quality; nice soft, rubbery feel & fits perfectly.
-.Power button, mic are accessible nicely.
- The on/off button is placed nicely, no accidental presses so far.
- The LEDs display the current charge (when you plug in the phone or charge the case) and turn off after blinking for a few secs.
- No interference in the camera view, flash works perfectly.
Cons-
- Only a 50% boost
- The volume rocker is a mess; it only recognises up. (It may 'break-in' with use thought)
- Charges the phone really slowly. Doesn't bother me though as I was looking to prolong the use and not 'charge' it per se. If I'm out the phone doesn't die, that's all I care about.
- The charging cable provided isn't of the best quality. I was charing my phone with it and noticed considerably slower charging.
- The phone becomes considerably larger and heavier after the case, but still pocketable.
- A bit expensive. I find its worth to be around $45.
That's all I can gather right now, will edit later if I missed out on anything. I'd be happy to answer any questions!
I like the case, it solves my purpose of not dying on me and 50% is a decent bump up.

I took a chance on a similar but lesser quality one
raghav2511 said:
Hey guys just thought i'd share my experience with the iBlason battery case for HTC One! Just some pros and cons, simple!
Pros-
- Doesn't get hot
- Good build quality; nice soft, rubbery feel & fits perfectly.
-.Power button, mic are accessible nicely.
- The on/off button is placed nicely, no accidental presses so far.
- The LEDs display the current charge (when you plug in the phone or charge the case) and turn off after blinking for a few secs.
- No interference in the camera view, flash works perfectly.
Cons-
- Only a 50% boost
- The volume rocker is a mess; it only recognises up. (It may 'break-in' with use thought)
- Charges the phone really slowly. Doesn't bother me though as I was looking to prolong the use and not 'charge' it per se. If I'm out the phone doesn't die, that's all I care about.
- The charging cable provided isn't of the best quality. I was charing my phone with it and noticed considerably slower charging.
- The phone becomes considerably larger and heavier after the case, but still pocketable.
- A bit expensive. I find its worth to be around $45.
That's all I can gather right now, will edit later if I missed out on anything. I'd be happy to answer any questions!
I like the case, it solves my purpose of not dying on me and 50% is a decent bump up.
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This case I got is similar but isn't as good but useable for charging and talking at the same time. It seems to give like 150% charge and is cheaper at $20.99.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DQ1MI7S/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Weak Bluetooth Signal

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is a common problem for the SGS3. Previous to my HM1900 Samsung Bluetooth I had the HM1800. The 1800 worked flawlessly, around 25 feet or so through a wall, turning my head, etc., how a Bluetooth should work. The HM1900, however, is awful in comparison. During work, I keep my phone in my right breast pocket with the headset in my right ear. I stream music while working (in near-perfect 4G) though if I put my arm over my chest, or turn my head, I lose signal. Could it be the headset itself, or is it a possibility that it's a combination of both?
On the phone I have the Otterbox Commuter case, so it isn't that thick. The phone is not rooted and running 4.3. I have attempted at doing a software update, but nothing downloads. Is there somewhere to download a software update for the Bluetooth itself on the phone? Or is this just a lost cause?
I would rather keep the HM1900 just because of how well built it is, I easily ruined my HM1800 within two weeks for it not being as robust.
And another side note! Volume is damned quite on the headset even with everything at full volume. Any volume control fix or app?

caffeinetripp said:
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this is a common problem for the SGS3. Previous to my HM1900 Samsung Bluetooth I had the HM1800. The 1800 worked flawlessly, around 25 feet or so through a wall, turning my head, etc., how a Bluetooth should work. The HM1900, however, is awful in comparison. During work, I keep my phone in my right breast pocket with the headset in my right ear. I stream music while working (in near-perfect 4G) though if I put my arm over my chest, or turn my head, I lose signal. Could it be the headset itself, or is it a possibility that it's a combination of both?
On the phone I have the Otterbox Commuter case, so it isn't that thick. The phone is not rooted and running 4.3. I have attempted at doing a software update, but nothing downloads. Is there somewhere to download a software update for the Bluetooth itself on the phone? Or is this just a lost cause?
I would rather keep the HM1900 just because of how well built it is, I easily ruined my HM1800 within two weeks for it not being as robust.
And another side note! Volume is damned quite on the headset even with everything at full volume. Any volume control fix or app?
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Ive had similar issues save the volume .. its not your case unless its metal and only real thing you can do is re - pair the headset and the phone .

xhozt said:
Ive had similar issues save the volume .. its not your case unless its metal and only real thing you can do is re - pair the headset and the phone .
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I've had similar issues, what should i do?

I have problems when streaming music to a bluetooth speaker. When using iphone on max volume sound is much louder than when I try using my galaxy s3. Do you know a way how to fix that?

mrkele said:
I have problems when streaming music to a bluetooth speaker. When using iphone on max volume sound is much louder than when I try using my galaxy s3. Do you know a way how to fix that?
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I as well have had this problem. Mine comes and goes. Phone volume, Pandora volume, and headset volume are at maximum and it's still not very loud through the headset.
xhozt said:
Ive had similar issues save the volume .. its not your case unless its metal and only real thing you can do is re - pair the headset and the phone .
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Repairing doesn't do anything unfortunately.
Is it possible there's just a weak bluetooth antennae in the phone, or it has somehow become damaged/unhooked?
Going back to my first post, the older headset worked wonderfully, but this new one isn't doing so hot. Turn my head; lose signal, place a hand over phone; lose signal. It will however work from five feet away crystal clear with no obstructions, but I must be within sight and have my headset facing the phone. Seems a little ridiculous for a bluetooth if I can't have the phone in my pocket.

If when checking the Bluetooth association you find general poor performance, then there are a few things you can attempt. Initially, make certain your gadget's batteries are appropriately charged or are overall new. Contingent upon the gadget, you can discover this data in either the Bluetooth menu or the Bluetooth framework inclination by selecting "Show more information" from the apparatus menu. On the off chance that your gadget has removable batteries, than regardless of the fact that the framework reports them as being healthy, give the battery compartment a decent investigation to check whether any consumption has happened from a spilling battery.

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If when checking the Bluetooth association you find general poor performance, then there are a few things you can attempt. Initially, make certain your gadget's batteries are appropriately charged or are overall new. Contingent upon the gadget, you can discover this data in either the Bluetooth menu or the Bluetooth framework inclination by selecting "Show more information" from the apparatus menu. On the off chance that your gadget has removable batteries, than regardless of the fact that the framework reports them as being healthy, give the battery compartment a decent investigation to check whether any consumption has happened from a spilling battery.
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Unfortunately the batteries are not removable in my device. They are fully charged as well. I think a lot of this comes down to the signal on the BlueTooth itself brand to brand and model to model. Still though, there might be a fix.

I have come to the conclusion that the Bluetooth headset is the problem going from one device to another; from one Galaxy S3 to an HTC One to my current Galaxy Note 4. The problem is the HM1900. Purchase the HM1700, it's not as robust, but it sure fits better and gives better sound.

MJYUN Wireless Earbud Review - Great for running

I recently got a pair of the MJYUN wireless earbuds, and I've been pretty impressed. I've been using them for the past few days, and so far, I'm quite impressed. The sound is pretty good for such a small headphone, with surprising bass and good treble and a decent sound stage. Where these really have shined, though, is the fit and comfort. These are very light and fit very well. So far, I've worn them at the office and for a few runs, and they have stayed in place with no issues and are very comfortable over longer duration. At my desk, I typically listen to music whenever I'm not in meetings, which this week has been mostly 1 to 2 hour stretches. During my runs, I haven't had any problem with them shifting or needing adjustment. Additionally, the ability to power just the right earbud is awesome for running or biking on the street. I also haven't had any issues with the the earbuds pairing with each other, whether they are powered on at the same time or the left one is powered on after the right one is already playing music. I have noticed a slight delay when watching movies (less than a second), which is a minor annoyance, but not a deal breaker for me.
The battery life so far has been great. I charged these fully when I got them on Saturday using a previously purchased usb c to c cable and charger, and they fully charged in 30 or 40 minutes. So far, I haven't had to recharge the case again. I love that this uses USB C, and the provided cable is nice to have. I've been able to consistently get 2 hours at a stretch before the battery dies. I replace the earbuds in the case when I am not using them, and that's been enough to maintain a charge. The case LED provides some indication of remaining charge (it shows green when it's open if the charge is >50%, and yellow when < 50%), and it's still showing green after about 6 hours of listening time, so I'm happy.
Phone calls work well. Both earbuds have a button, which is used to turn on the buds, pause or play music, and answer or end calls. Once the call is answered, only the right earbud provides audio. The people I talked to had no trouble hearing me, and the music restarted without any problem once I hung up.
Initial paring with my phone (a LG V20) was seamless, and I haven't had any issues with connecting since the initial pairing. Additionally, the range has been great. In my office, I was curious how good the range would be, and managed to get about 75 feet away from my phone before they started to break up (which beat my Garmin Vivoactive 3 by about 20 feet).
Overall, I have been very impressed with these, and would highly recommend these, especially for running or working out.

Here's some pictures of the headphones.