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Desire Z Nandroid backup problem

Somehow the backup went like over 1GB and fully fill up my memorycard.... I notice the backup also include "DATA" as well..
I just want to backup my ROM data so I can have a fresh copy of my stock OS if I need it in the future.
Is there a way?

philippecr said:
Somehow the backup went like over 1GB and fully fill up my memorycard.... I notice the backup also include "DATA" as well..
I just want to backup my ROM data so I can have a fresh copy of my stock OS if I need it in the future.
Is there a way?
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What do you mean by "data"? Perhaps you can borrow a bigger microSD card to make a complete backup

You say you want a clean stock backup? Just wipe everything (data, cache, dalvik...) and then make the backup...

Nandroid backup?

I am thinking right now?
Did a nandroid backup when I was completely happy with ROM (MIUI GingerBread).
After that I sat and played a lot of different apps widgets, etc.
Also downloaded a bunch of widgets and tested.
Then when I tried it finished I went into file manager and deleted the folders that I thought had something to do with the apps I tested.
But if I accidentally delete a folder that I should not have been removed, reset everything anyway when I reset my nadroid backup?

Are you asking if a nandroid restore will restore the data you deleted on your sd card? If so, the answer is no.
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No, just want to know if I accidentally deleted something that was needed in my nandroid backup?
Or you can delete anything on the SD card and it will still be reset by nandroid backup?

Nadroids are stored on your sdcard at /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ (at least for me). Don't touch this folder. If you are unsure what to delete, nandroid and copy the entire SD to your computer.
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Do you need to do a wipe of everything before you restore a backup nandroid?

depends what you mean by wipe everything, do you mean your data or your dalvik cache?
you can restore a nandroid back up with the dalvik cache in place, but that really depends why you're doing the restore as you might want to wipe and start a fresh.

puredesire said:
But if I accidentally delete a folder that I should not have been removed, reset everything anyway when I reset my nadroid backup?
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Check SD card
/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ for ClockworkMOD recovery
/sdcard/nandroid for AmonRA recovery

puredesire said:
Do you need to do a wipe of everything before you restore a backup nandroid?
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You can wipe everything you want unless it states otherwise. If you are simply updating your ROM to a newer version, you may not need to do a full wipe. Just read the 1st and 2nd pages of the ROM forum for more information on that...

Nandroid does not back up or restore anything from sd storage, and your radio, recovery and hboot are also separate.

stringer7 said:
Nandroid does not back up or restore anything from sd storage, and your radio, recovery and hboot are also separate.
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Except for an ext-partition of the sd-card, as far as any exists. At least amonra-recovery has this option, do not know as it is with the clockworkmod-recovery.

Stock Backups

for some reason my stock backups from the virgin ndc do not boot after i use a lp or mm rom. im using twrp 3. Someone posted about the stock backups not restoring but no help in that thread. clean wipes do not work either.

koobie777 said:
for some reason my stock backups from the virgin ndc do not boot after i use a lp or mm rom. im using twrp 3. plus no rom ive used has working data for virgin mobile and ive tried the universal vm apn fix but it doesn't work. would do a prl update if i could successfully boot back into stock but the only way i can is by using the ndc tar. someone posted about the stock backups not restoring but no help in that thread. clean wipes do not work either.
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Clean wipe means, also wipe internal storage. To boot a KitKat ROM or restore a backup after lp or mm, you must wipe everything except external sd. It's the way lp and mm encrypt the internal storage.

madbat99 said:
Clean wipe means, also wipe internal storage. To boot a KitKat ROM or restore a backup after lp or mm, you must wipe everything except external sd. It's the way lp and mm encrypt the internal storage.
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tried that but still get fcs

koobie777 said:
tried that but still get fcs
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Are you sure you're wiping internal? Not just wipe data, format internal (data/media) storage. Do it twice if you have to. If you've definitely done that, then your backup is corrupt. Because once you wipe internal (and data and system) you've removed all traces of mm or lp. So the previous rom has nothing to do with FC. Are you trying to restore titanium backups of apps from mm onto kk? Don't.
Also, have you moved apps to external sd on any rom? If you have, and not properly removed that data, it can cause problems.

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Are you sure you're wiping internal? Not just wipe data, format internal (data/media) storage. Do it twice if you have to. If you've definitely done that, then your backup is corrupt. Because once you wipe internal (and data and system) you've removed all traces of mm or lp. So the previous rom has nothing to do with FC. Are you trying to restore titanium backups of apps from mm onto kk? Don't.
Also, have you moved apps to external sd on any rom? If you have, and not properly removed that data, it can cause problems.
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no the fcs happen right at boot. dont see how my backup is corrupted and yea ive wiped internal storage. not that much of a noob lol just new to this device. what i did was restored with ndc tar and then flashed twrp then booted back to stock to make sure everything is ok. Then make a backup then clean wipe again to install lp or mm roms then if i do another clean wipe and restore stock backup fcs on boot.

twrp backup wont restore

I have a nandroid backup of my phone from earlier in the day i am trying to restore. It finishs no problem says its restore but when i reboot it goes back to factory settings??
I have rooted the phone and also s off just done tonight.
Any ideas this is driving me crazy i really really dont want to have to set up the whole phone again!!!

Are you talking about data backup? If so let me tell that doing a data backup in TWRP will be nontheless, as long as data partition is still encrypted. In that case TWRP won't be able to decrypt it, due to proprietary encryption used by HTC, and the restored backup is no data backup as a matter of fact. Will say at the moment it is not possible to backup/restore the encrypted data partition.
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So nandroid backups are pointless at the moment then?

angerfist2009 said:
So nandroid backups are pointless at the moment then?
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for user data yes. Try Titanium backup or just store everything on your external storage and use google backup to restore to the best of its ability. I've actually found google backup restores to be fairly decent lately. Much better than the old HTC backups.
TWRP can still be useful for system backups. If you make system edits, you can simply restore with TWRP and not have to touch data at all. For example, if you modify build.prop or use xposed or some other system mod, and want to return to stock system, you can just restore your system backup. Of course, you may need to then remove anything that your mod did to the data partition manually.

So the backup still works but when you restore, it'll land you back at out of the box stock? And I started a backup and it said 27gb! Is that right?! I know it gets bigger everytime with each new phone, but 20gb larger than m9 backup is nuts.
System is 3.x GB and data is 24.xx GB. Should I just uncheck data and only backup system and boot?
Just want to be 100% sure before I wipe stock rom
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Evocm7 said:
So the backup still works but when you restore, it'll land you back at out of the box stock? And I started a backup and it said 27gb! Is that right?! I know it gets bigger everytime with each new phone, but 20gb larger than m9 backup is nuts.
System is 3.x GB and data is 24.xx GB. Should I just uncheck data and only backup system and boot?
Just want to be 100% sure before I wipe stock rom
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Restore system with no data wipe will leave you with your data intact.
Twrp can't see anything on the data partition, so it tries to backup the whole thing, which on my phone was about 25 GB. Unfortunately, this backup is useless. If you restore it, your system will not boot with a warning that your data is not encrypted and you need to wipe data to fix. Which kind of defeats the point of the data backup.

jollywhitefoot said:
Restore system with no data wipe will leave you with your data intact.
Twrp can't see anything on the data partition, so it tries to backup the whole thing, which on my phone was about 25 GB. Unfortunately, this backup is useless. If you restore it, your system will not boot with a warning that your data is not encrypted and you need to wipe data to fix. Which kind of defeats the point of the data backup.
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So if I flash a rom and it doesn't boot, am I out of luck getting back to anything bootable? I'm on the Verizon model so I don't have many options yet.
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Evocm7 said:
So if I flash a rom and it doesn't boot, am I out of luck getting back to anything bootable? I'm on the Verizon model so I don't have many options yet.
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Well. I think there is an ruu for Verizon, so you should be able to get back to full stock by flashing it. But you will lose everything on you internal storage so make sure to back everything up prior to doing anything. At the moment, internal storage is inaccessible on a device that can't boot into system.
I personally am not keeping anything of importance on my internal storage right now knowing that everytime I flash something I could be forced to wipe.
Twrp system backup should work to get you back to where you are too, without wiping any of your personal data.
Having said all of this. I'm really not that familiar with Verizon specifically. So take all of these above as general device information.
Remember, it's just data partition that there are issues with. If you have a good system backup you should always be able to restore to a bootable state. But you may have to format data in order to do so.
When wiping, try topjohnwu's wipe script in the dev section to wipe app data, but not userdata first. If it doesn't work, then full wipe

I nothing valuable on internal so I think I'll try it. Thanks for the help
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TWRP Restore Issue

Hi guys,
I seem to have this problem where my nandroid backup from TWRP won't boot. I can only get it to boot after flashing the Rom over again after the store (this doesn't erase the data and all my file are still there, I just have to make sure I'm flashing the same Rom version as was part of the backup to avoid issues . But I was wondering if there is something else I should be doing here. I've used TWRP in the past and was just able to back up and restore no problem.
When I back up I make sure my system partition is mounted and I usually backup the default selections (boot/data/system, EFS) . My feeling is somehow the boot partition gets corrupted and won't allow the phone to continue booting, but I'm not sure why?
Any ideas? I'm using TWRP version 3.0.2-0. This happens when restoring nandroid for any rom (so far tried with oxygen/hydrogen/miui and cm14).
Thanks in advance.

I have question regarding TWRP. I always had a phone with an external SD card. This will be my first phone with no external memory. When I install a new ROM I always wiped internal, factory reset and cleared cache. Now can't do that anymore cause that will wipe my internal card and lose my nandroid backup. What are you guys wiping right before you install a ROM?

borijess said:
I have question regarding TWRP. I always had a phone with an external SD card. This will be my first phone with no external memory. When I install a new ROM I always wiped internal, factory reset and cleared cache. Now can't do that anymore cause that will wipe my internal card and lose my nandroid backup. What are you guys wiping right before you install a ROM?
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Standard factory reset on TWRP will erase data, cache and Calvin cache without wiping internal SD card. That's what most people use.

piotrus22 said:
Hi guys,
I seem to have this problem where my nandroid backup from TWRP won't boot. I can only get it to boot after flashing the Rom over again after the store (this doesn't erase the data and all my file are still there, I just have to make sure I'm flashing the same Rom version as was part of the backup to avoid issues . But I was wondering if there is something else I should be doing here. I've used TWRP in the past and was just able to back up and restore no problem.
When I back up I make sure my system partition is mounted and I usually backup the default selections (boot/data/system, EFS) . My feeling is somehow the boot partition gets corrupted and won't allow the phone to continue booting, but I'm not sure why?
Any ideas? I'm using TWRP version 3.0.2-0. This happens when restoring nandroid for any rom (so far tried with oxygen/hydrogen/miui and cm14).
Thanks in advance.
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I don't have any solution for you but I can certainly concur. I've seen this behaviour as well but not as consistently as what you are describing. About 1/3rd of the time my restores don't work as you mentioned and I have to dirty flash the rom to get it to boot. Sometimes the restore even errors out while restoring the System partition in which case I just dirty flash. This is like my 9th or so Android device since Samsung released the SGS1 in whatever year that was and this is the first phone I've ever had this problem with. On previous phones it would happen rarely but nothing like it does on the OP3.
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borijess said:
I have question regarding TWRP. I always had a phone with an external SD card. This will be my first phone with no external memory. When I install a new ROM I always wiped internal, factory reset and cleared cache. Now can't do that anymore cause that will wipe my internal card and lose my nandroid backup. What are you guys wiping right before you install a ROM?
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You can either not wipe internal storage (that is what I do usually) or you can buy an OTG adapter. I think TWRP supports it for our device. You can always copy off your backups via USB then wipe internal then copy your backups back too I think.

Did you for once try wiping the complete device after backing up nans on external storage and thn trying restoring? That would make a difference

Dr-Hack said:
Did you for once try wiping the complete device after backing up nans on external storage and thn trying restoring? That would make a difference
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What?

piotrus22 said:
What?
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I think he is asking to do below procedure -
1.Copy your nandroid backup and other imp stuff to computer
2.boot into TWRP
3.wipe all partitions including internal storage
4.copy nandroid backup to phone
5.restore backup through TWRP

Did you mount system to restore backup?

null0seven said:
Did you mount system to restore backup?
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Yep of course.

JumboMan said:
I think he is asking to do below procedure -
1.Copy your nandroid backup and other imp stuff to computer
2.boot into TWRP
3.wipe all partitions including internal storage
4.copy nandroid backup to phone
5.restore backup through TWRP
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OK. Have not tried this, why would this work and fix my problem? Do I only have to do it once and then all subsequent restores would be fine? Is it a problem with my TWRP? Phone?

piotrus22 said:
OK. Have not tried this, why would this work and fix my problem? Do I only have to do it once and then all subsequent restores would be fine? Is it a problem with my TWRP? Phone?
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its one time procedure. Subsequent restore will be fine.
May be different versions of TWRP will help you with this problem

is this issue had been resolved? because i have also the same problem.. whats the fix for this?

piotrus22 said:
OK. Have not tried this, why would this work and fix my problem? Do I only have to do it once and then all subsequent restores would be fine? Is it a problem with my TWRP? Phone?
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How did you fix your problem? I cant restore my backup also..
it says restore complete but stock in boot logo after... any fix?

toto_vanir said:
How did you fix your problem? I cant restore my backup also..
it says restore complete but stock in boot logo after... any fix?
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Hey man. No I never fixed it. Just flash your Rom over it and it should boot fine.