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Hey All,
I am curious about a few things...
I had a couple/few nandroid back ups that were stored on my phone, do you all only keep 1 nandroid and delete your previous backups?
I am running mikfroyo and flashed another ROM about 2 days ago, had some issues so I went back to mik. I think I may have done it in a way that nobody else does...I did it like I was flashing it for the first time, wipe everything and flash from sd card.
Should I have just did a nandroid restore? What does this actually bring back? Text, recent calls, apps?
When doing a nandroid restore should I wipe all before doing so? I would imagine the answer is yes.
And one more, before switching to any new ROM, should I always flash Caulkins Format All zip?
Thank you.
Nand restore will restore everything that was on your phone when you made the backup. Definitely a good idea to flash the zip when installing a new ROM. I also do it to restore though.
When you restore, unless you are backing up the cache, which isn't necessary, you need to minimally wipe the cache/dalvik before you restore. Also, if your SD Card is partitioned, you would need to wipe SD EXT. I pretty much flash Calk's format all anytime I restore or flash a new ROM.
I almost never have one back up. I have a few ROMs I like so, I set them up the way I want and restore between them when I get bored, which is like 100 times a day it feels like.
I do usually only keep the latest backup of any one ROM though. At any given time I probably have at least 5.
Edit: I re-read your post and I think I misunderstood one part the first time. Sometimes, when I got back to a previous ROM, I do just reflash it and start over, but I am anal about fresh starts. Usually I do just nand restore, especially if I know the setup was running well. I don't typically restore a lot between ROMs b/c I feel like it just adds to something that can go wrong. A lot of times I redownload apps instead of restoring, especially if they are purchased, since they are just stored in my apps in the market anyway. And I never restore app data. Usually end up only restoring about 30 apps w/out data, but most people do backup/restore a lot of info with no problems.
You should have just restore from a previous backup. When you restore, it bring ti back to EXACTLY how it was, texts, number of calls, ect. Actually you don't need to wipe when doing a restore. Well you can manually wipe all of them, or flash the format all, so I'm saying yes.
Also, I suggest against wiping data before creating a nandroid backup, lol. That would defeat the purpose, as your info and apps will be gone! Just wipe cache and davlik before a backup, or nothing at all, just so there's no confusion.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to wipe anything before backing up. But if your going to restore a different ROM and there's no cache included in the nand back up you're going to restore, then best to wipe it before you restore.
jstalford said:
Also, if your SD Card is partitioned, you would need to wipe SD EXT. I pretty much flash Calk's format all anytime I restore or flash a new ROM.
It is partitioned, what gets stored on there that needs to be wiped, apps?
Thanks for your help
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It is partitioned, what gets stored on there that needs to be wiped, apps?
Thanks for your help
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If the ROM has a2sd built in, yeah, if not, nothing. I always wipe it just so I'm in the habit of doing it for when it's there. Also depending on how a2sd is set up, dalvik can be on there.
I am thinking right now?
Did a nandroid backup when I was completely happy with ROM (MIUI GingerBread).
After that I sat and played a lot of different apps widgets, etc.
Also downloaded a bunch of widgets and tested.
Then when I tried it finished I went into file manager and deleted the folders that I thought had something to do with the apps I tested.
But if I accidentally delete a folder that I should not have been removed, reset everything anyway when I reset my nadroid backup?
Are you asking if a nandroid restore will restore the data you deleted on your sd card? If so, the answer is no.
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No, just want to know if I accidentally deleted something that was needed in my nandroid backup?
Or you can delete anything on the SD card and it will still be reset by nandroid backup?
Nadroids are stored on your sdcard at /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ (at least for me). Don't touch this folder. If you are unsure what to delete, nandroid and copy the entire SD to your computer.
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Do you need to do a wipe of everything before you restore a backup nandroid?
depends what you mean by wipe everything, do you mean your data or your dalvik cache?
you can restore a nandroid back up with the dalvik cache in place, but that really depends why you're doing the restore as you might want to wipe and start a fresh.
puredesire said:
But if I accidentally delete a folder that I should not have been removed, reset everything anyway when I reset my nadroid backup?
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Check SD card
/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/ for ClockworkMOD recovery
/sdcard/nandroid for AmonRA recovery
puredesire said:
Do you need to do a wipe of everything before you restore a backup nandroid?
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You can wipe everything you want unless it states otherwise. If you are simply updating your ROM to a newer version, you may not need to do a full wipe. Just read the 1st and 2nd pages of the ROM forum for more information on that...
Nandroid does not back up or restore anything from sd storage, and your radio, recovery and hboot are also separate.
stringer7 said:
Nandroid does not back up or restore anything from sd storage, and your radio, recovery and hboot are also separate.
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Except for an ext-partition of the sd-card, as far as any exists. At least amonra-recovery has this option, do not know as it is with the clockworkmod-recovery.
I've been running CM 10, 4.1.2, on Verizon gn. Works fine.
But I can't leave well enough alone, and want to try 4.2.2.
That should be easy right, just flash the recent CM 10.1. No cache wiping. Right?
But if I do that and I don't like it. how do I go back? Is it as simple as just flashing CM 10?
Also, I have Ti backup. The backup folder is sdcard/TitaniumBackup. I've read that 4.2.2 creates /sdcard/0/ for data. Does this mean that my present backup will be deleted?
Any help appreciated.
Since you are migrating Android versions, I would recommend that you do a full wipe, so system, data, and cache (and restore apps from TiBu if you must). You can do a nandroid backup from recovery; if you don't like 4.2 just restore it. When restoring a nandroid backup everything will be exactly the same.
seandarcy said:
Also, I have Ti backup. The backup folder is sdcard/TitaniumBackup. I've read that 4.2.2 creates /sdcard/0/ for data. Does this mean that my present backup will be deleted?
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I just upgraded from 4.1.2 to 4.2.2 and had the same concern about being able to go back if I had problems and knowing that the partitioning of internal storage would be changed.
I recently got my GN back from Samsung after getting the screen replaced. Before sending it off, I totally wiped and reset the phone to stock. I made sure I did a full Ti backup first, then a Nandroid backup, and finally copied the entire contents of internal storage via "adb pull" to my desktop computer. When I got the phone back, I reversed the process and was able to restore the phone entirely to where it was before the wipe.
I did the same operation before upgrading to 4.2.2, without wiping the phone. So if I'd have wanted to go back to 4.1.2, I'd have wiped the phone, including internal storage, and restored as described above. I'm pretty confident that this would have removed the new partitioning from 4.2.2 and reset it to where it was before the 4.2.2 upgrade.
Sorry to be dense, but...
So I do a nandroid backup from TWRP 2.4.4.0, system, data and cache
From TWRP flash the CM 4.2.2.
Do nandroid restore from TWRP?
Flash gapps, restore apps from TiBu.
Now if want to go back to 4.1.2:
Flash 4.1.2, wipe system data cache.
Flash gapps, restore apps from TiBu
Do I have this correct?
Nandroid the entire thing from TWRP, wipe system, data and cache from TWRP, flash CM10.1 and gapps from TWRP, restore apps from TiBu in ROM. If you don't like it just restore the nandroid from TWRP. TiBu only restores apps, nandroid restores everything: ROM, account, system settings, apps, etc.
The only extra thing I referred to was making a full copy of your phone's internal storage to your computer using "adb pull". This would allow you to wipe the internal storage and restore it, in case the partitioning change from "/storage/sdcard0" to "/storage/emulated/0" needed to be removed. But if TWRP's nandroid backup and restore takes care of this, this step isn't necessary.
How easy? Dead easy.
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I'd like to flash cloudy g3 but I'm not sure how to restore data into it, I have a nandroid backup with twrp, I used the preset backup and compressed the file on a sd card. Please help.
AryG15 said:
I'd like to flash cloudy g3 but I'm not sure how to restore data into it, I have a nandroid backup with twrp, I used the preset backup and compressed the file on a sd card. Please help.
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by restore data you mean to restore data from stock rom? I don't think that would be possible every time you flash a new rom you have to do a fully wipe, or you'll get a bootloop.
I mean as in all my app data and photos etc
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by restore data you mean to restore data from stock rom? I don't think that would be possible every time you flash a new rom you have to do a fully wipe, or you'll get a bootloop.
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I mean as in app data and photos and stuff
AryG15 said:
I mean as in app data and photos and stuff
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you cannot restore any data from /data partition (a.k.a. app data, etc) because it will cause a bootloop if you're coming from another rom. Internal storage and external sdcard data can be restored if you have a backup on your computer. In fact it wouldn't even be wiped by twrp in the first place.
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I mean as in all my app data and photos etc
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Internal memory won't be formatted. So your data will stay intact. For backuping and restoring apps you can use titanium backup. It would restore the data completely.
What do you mean?
I don't get what you mean by internal memory won't go
I have a nandroid backup of my phone from earlier in the day i am trying to restore. It finishs no problem says its restore but when i reboot it goes back to factory settings??
I have rooted the phone and also s off just done tonight.
Any ideas this is driving me crazy i really really dont want to have to set up the whole phone again!!!
Are you talking about data backup? If so let me tell that doing a data backup in TWRP will be nontheless, as long as data partition is still encrypted. In that case TWRP won't be able to decrypt it, due to proprietary encryption used by HTC, and the restored backup is no data backup as a matter of fact. Will say at the moment it is not possible to backup/restore the encrypted data partition.
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So nandroid backups are pointless at the moment then?
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So nandroid backups are pointless at the moment then?
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for user data yes. Try Titanium backup or just store everything on your external storage and use google backup to restore to the best of its ability. I've actually found google backup restores to be fairly decent lately. Much better than the old HTC backups.
TWRP can still be useful for system backups. If you make system edits, you can simply restore with TWRP and not have to touch data at all. For example, if you modify build.prop or use xposed or some other system mod, and want to return to stock system, you can just restore your system backup. Of course, you may need to then remove anything that your mod did to the data partition manually.
So the backup still works but when you restore, it'll land you back at out of the box stock? And I started a backup and it said 27gb! Is that right?! I know it gets bigger everytime with each new phone, but 20gb larger than m9 backup is nuts.
System is 3.x GB and data is 24.xx GB. Should I just uncheck data and only backup system and boot?
Just want to be 100% sure before I wipe stock rom
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So the backup still works but when you restore, it'll land you back at out of the box stock? And I started a backup and it said 27gb! Is that right?! I know it gets bigger everytime with each new phone, but 20gb larger than m9 backup is nuts.
System is 3.x GB and data is 24.xx GB. Should I just uncheck data and only backup system and boot?
Just want to be 100% sure before I wipe stock rom
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Restore system with no data wipe will leave you with your data intact.
Twrp can't see anything on the data partition, so it tries to backup the whole thing, which on my phone was about 25 GB. Unfortunately, this backup is useless. If you restore it, your system will not boot with a warning that your data is not encrypted and you need to wipe data to fix. Which kind of defeats the point of the data backup.
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Restore system with no data wipe will leave you with your data intact.
Twrp can't see anything on the data partition, so it tries to backup the whole thing, which on my phone was about 25 GB. Unfortunately, this backup is useless. If you restore it, your system will not boot with a warning that your data is not encrypted and you need to wipe data to fix. Which kind of defeats the point of the data backup.
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So if I flash a rom and it doesn't boot, am I out of luck getting back to anything bootable? I'm on the Verizon model so I don't have many options yet.
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Evocm7 said:
So if I flash a rom and it doesn't boot, am I out of luck getting back to anything bootable? I'm on the Verizon model so I don't have many options yet.
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Well. I think there is an ruu for Verizon, so you should be able to get back to full stock by flashing it. But you will lose everything on you internal storage so make sure to back everything up prior to doing anything. At the moment, internal storage is inaccessible on a device that can't boot into system.
I personally am not keeping anything of importance on my internal storage right now knowing that everytime I flash something I could be forced to wipe.
Twrp system backup should work to get you back to where you are too, without wiping any of your personal data.
Having said all of this. I'm really not that familiar with Verizon specifically. So take all of these above as general device information.
Remember, it's just data partition that there are issues with. If you have a good system backup you should always be able to restore to a bootable state. But you may have to format data in order to do so.
When wiping, try topjohnwu's wipe script in the dev section to wipe app data, but not userdata first. If it doesn't work, then full wipe
I nothing valuable on internal so I think I'll try it. Thanks for the help
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