Any guesses as to how rootable the Amazon Fire TV 2.0 will be?
The current AFTV firmware hasn't been rootable ever since the past 12 updates, so my guess is that chances are really slim that someone will be able to find a way to root the AFTV 2.0.
What has me is that they're using a mediatek processor.
jamboss said:
What has me is that they're using a mediatek processor.
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I know! Anyone know how well Kodi will run on a SOC made by MediaTek?
Neo3D said:
I know! Anyone know how well Kodi will run on a SOC made by MediaTek?
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Well they're claiming it can stream play 4k so i imagine it has to be pretty powerful but still a mediatek. :/
4k streaming can be done mostly by GPU hardware decoding, so it does not require very strong hardware.
Neo3D said:
Any guesses as to how rootable the Amazon Fire TV 2.0 will be?
The current AFTV firmware hasn't been rootable ever since the past 12 updates, so my guess is that chances are really slim that someone will be able to find a way to root the AFTV 2.0.
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Why would they not go out of their way to lock it down? What would be different?
ldeveraux said:
Why would they not go out of their way to lock it down? What would be different?
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well once android 6.0 is released there will be a rooting tool just like towelroot and kingroot to support newer devices. so we shall see. hopefully amazon didn't patch the vulnerability they use in it just like kingroot
MrGHLover said:
well once android 6.0 is released there will be a rooting tool just like towelroot and kingroot to support newer devices. so we shall see. hopefully amazon didn't patch the vulnerability they use in it just like kingroot
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Someone would have to discover a new vulnerability in M, as of now, doubt there is one. And if I'm not wrong, there is no vulnerability in Lollipop either?
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What are the chances of getting an Android TV ROM put on the FireTV? Is the partial bootloader unlock that's out there enough to do this?
I'm curious what would happen if the Android TV Launcher was sideloaded on the FireTV? I doubt it would be that easy, but I know it's been possible to get Google Play Store working and linked to your account and the ability to show all apps.
Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can expand on this and what else would have to be packaged together for the TV Launcher to work properly.
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I'm curious what would happen if the Android TV Launcher was sideloaded on the FireTV? I doubt it would be that easy, but I know it's been possible to get Google Play Store working and linked to your account and the ability to show all apps.
Maybe someone with a little more knowledge can expand on this and what else would have to be packaged together for the TV Launcher to work properly.
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My guess is it won't work because it requires lollipop stuff. I am currently working on a lollipop build. I have some time off work so maybe I'll be able to make some progress on it.
Android TV Launcher available (4.4 +):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher
Someone to test ?
Antechris said:
Android TV Launcher available (4.4 +):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.leanbacklauncher
Someone to test ?
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Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
rbox said:
Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
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Very stupide, I was sure it was 4.4. Sorry
rbox said:
Well the stock Amazon OS is 4.2.2... so...
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Give it a few weeks, I'm sure the AFTV will be updated to Kitkat at least.
RAFAMP said:
Give it a few weeks, I'm sure the AFTV will be updated to Kitkat at least.
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I highly doubt that. The kernel that Amazon is using does not have a kitkat branch. Plus they really have no reason to do that.
CM12...
Awesome!! Looking forward to trying it out!
rbox said:
CM12...
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Nice... Glad I got all my FTV's with partial unlocked bootloader, latest CWM & BootMenu ready to go....
rbox said:
CM12...
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will you still be making the prerooted stock roms?
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CM12...
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This is awesome!
I'd love to know how successful we expect this to be? Not trying to push or anything, of course, but I'm very curious if we have audio and video acceleration working yet? Having seen this I think I'll pick up another Fire TV, but not sure where best to buy, to have best chance of rooting it? Staples or Amazon?
I've currently got an Amazon Fire TV with your kernel boot menu installed, and would be happy to play about with some CM12 builds if it is helpful to have another users perspective. If the network does not work I have an Android compatible USB ethernet adaptor, and also wifi adaptor.
Thanks!!
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This is awesome!
I'd love to know how successful we expect this to be? Not trying to push or anything, of course, but I'm very curious if we have audio and video acceleration working yet? Having seen this I think I'll pick up another Fire TV, but not sure where best to buy, to have best chance of rooting it? Staples or Amazon?
I've currently got an Amazon Fire TV with your kernel boot menu installed, and would be happy to play about with some CM12 builds if it is helpful to have another users perspective. If the network does not work I have an Android compatible USB ethernet adaptor, and also wifi adaptor.
Thanks!!
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Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
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will you still be making the prerooted stock roms?
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He will probably still be making them. It just happens that the latest FW update isn't much of an update Features wise. So no rush for an update. Plus Amazon is getting trickier with the FW too. So patience is a virtue..
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He will probably still be making them. It just happens that the latest FW update isn't much of an update Features wise. So no rush for an update. Plus Amazon is getting trickier with the FW too. So patience is a virtue..
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oh im patient i just wanted to know if he was stopping the prerooted ones or not. i wasnt asking for an eta or anything. i just know some devs stop one project when they move onto another
As for CM12, it is very far from something flashable. All I have right now is the boot animation and the "updating packages" dialog. Currently my main problem is that none of the required services are starting, so I have to start them manually. Even doing that, I think I'm not starting everything that is required because as it starts loading up things, it dies because storage isn't set up properly, and bypassing that it kinda just hangs starting some android services. I'll have to enable some debug in init tomorrow to see what's going on with that.
As for prerooted, I'll still be making those. To be honest, CM12 is just a fun experiment for me. I probably won't be using it much because I watch a lot of Amazon Prime, and Android TV currently doesn't support it. I didn't really hear anyone saying anything earth shattering is contained in the newest update, and I really need to spend some extra time on it to figure out what's wrong with SuperSU, so that's why I haven't released a new one yet.
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As for CM12, it is very far from something flashable. All I have right now is the boot animation and the "updating packages" dialog. Currently my main problem is that none of the required services are starting, so I have to start them manually. Even doing that, I think I'm not starting everything that is required because as it starts loading up things, it dies because storage isn't set up properly, and bypassing that it kinda just hangs starting some android services. I'll have to enable some debug in init tomorrow to see what's going on with that.
As for prerooted, I'll still be making those. To be honest, CM12 is just a fun experiment for me. I probably won't be using it much because I watch a lot of Amazon Prime, and Android TV currently doesn't support it. I didn't really hear anyone saying anything earth shattering is contained in the newest update, and I really need to spend some extra time on it to figure out what's wrong with SuperSU, so that's why I haven't released a new one yet.
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That's awesome. If you can pull off CyanogenMod, it'll be epic! I know it's super early in the process, but forgive me, you got me all giddy and I couldn't hold back.
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Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
Thanks for the info - I did not realize it was still so likely to be rootable, so was unsure on buying a second.
Happy to say, I picked one up just now from Staples for $71.18 after tax in Duluth, GA. Rootable. Got that price by using a 15% off coupon, which was on their own website: http://www.staples.com/coupons
Great price, and rootable device!
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hearnia_2K said:
Y314K said:
Amazon has been the best place to get rootable FTV's. Staples & BB are still sending a high number of rootable FTV's as long as folks follow AFTVNews.com guides on how to Root them without updating them.
Thanks for the info - I did not realize it was still so likely to be rootable, so was unsure on buying a second.
Happy to say, I picked one up just now from Staples for $71.18 after tax in Duluth, GA. Rootable. Got that price by using a 15% off coupon, which was on their own website: http://www.staples.com/coupons
Great price, and rootable device!
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Nice.. I've gotten all my Rooted FTV's thru Staples site since Staples can really make things an awesome deal with their coupons...
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So I've gotten A LOT farther than I expected. I thought the kernel would have been a much bigger issue than it turned out to be. Anyway, right now I can get to the stock launcher and it looks like SystemUI is doing a crazy crash loop, so eventually the thing just dies. I'm going to try to get the Android TV launcher worker though. Then deal with SystemUI.
EDIT: Well I got the Android TV launcher starting... not sure what's supposed to happen with it though...
I just received a brand new Stick a couple days ago and successfully installed Kodi and a VPN. But, I am now interested in messing around with some custom ROMs and at the very least block further Amazon updates. I can't find any solid yes or no answers as to whether this is possible. Could someone point me in the right direction? I am fairly familiar with rooting Android phones and using recovery and custom roms. Fire is new to me.
Thanks!
Edit: I now realize that I probably should have just bought a Gen 1 Stick, but I didn't know that Amazon was actively fighting off modders. I have faith that the Android community will come up with a solution.. if they haven't already.
I blocked updates on my 5.2.4 fire tv successfully with the debloater tool. I am also waiting for a root method.
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I blocked updates on my 5.2.4 fire tv successfully with the debloater tool. I am also waiting for a root method.
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On 2 gen stick?
I have a fire Tv 2.
Im also searching...
Is there a method to downgrade to a rootable version?
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Is there a method to downgrade to a rootable version?
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You can not
It seems that there isn't one person who works on finding a root for the fire tv. Is it that they wait for a vulnerability to be found in the Android OS itself before a root is available? I'm just wondering this because of the type of ways people have rooted them in the past. Anyone know?
Looks like my hope lies with zeroepoch and rbox.
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I blocked updates on my 5.2.4 fire tv successfully with the debloater tool. I am also waiting for a root method.
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Where can I find debloater tool for fire tv 2?
There is a prerooted 5.2.4.1 rom available.
Is there no way to install a xustom recovery and load that? Lile with many devices (im looking at you samsung) you have to install twrp and then boot straight to rexovery and flash a rom or your supersu.
Is that not possible with this? I am or else someone would have said it but I have to ask.
Edit. Excuse me.
How do you plan on doubling your money? Selling fully loaded boxes and sticks is illegal and Kodi is pretty much dead.
Illigal? You a lawyer? Is that legal advise? I think its perfectly legal. They literally have dozens of sellers on amazon, ebay, etc. (Not trying to come off smartass, I just dont want any trouble)
And even besides all that, everything I own that has a root folder has access to it. I have a touch of ocd maybe, but I just really want to be able to use a device I paid for to its fullest extent. Since they advertise the specs to their fullest when deciding on a sale price.
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I'm just saying be very careful. I've had the FBI at my door and it's not fun. I believe Amazon and eBay are taking down "fully loaded" boxes. I thought your post mentioned selling them. I'm not trying to be an ass just be careful.
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There is a prerooted 5.2.4.1 rom available.
Is there no way to install a xustom recovery and load that? Lile with many devices (im looking at you samsung) you have to install twrp and then boot straight to rexovery and flash a rom or your supersu.
Is that not possible with this? I am or else someone would have said it but I have to ask.
Edit. Excuse me.
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Illigal? You a lawyer? Is that legal advise? I think its perfectly legal. They literally have dozens of sellers on amazon, ebay, etc. (Not trying to come off smartass, I just dont want any trouble)
And even besides all that, everything I own that has a root folder has access to it. I have a touch of ocd maybe, but I just really want to be able to use a device I paid for to its fullest extent. Since they advertise the specs to their fullest when decuding on a sale price.
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Yeah. I had forgotten my manners for a moment. The internet is huge, ya know sometimes I forget which spot I am. I am simply trying to enable all the features of this thing. I use it to replace cable, a few (less than $10 usually) monthly subscriptions to alternate channels can save a ton of money over conventional cable. This is all I was saying.
Is there no way to get into fastboot by using possibly a factory cable? I have one of those that I used for my kindle fires.
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I’ve had Kodi since I got my FireStick on Black Friday of 2016. I’ve been trying to customize it as much as possible but I know it’s Lipitor’s without root. Added the HA launcher and love it. Want to debloat the amazon crap to make it faster. Anyway to do this?
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I’ve had Kodi since I got my FireStick on Black Friday of 2016. I’ve been trying to customize it as much as possible but I know it’s Lipitor’s without root. Added the HA launcher and love it. Want to debloat the amazon crap to make it faster. Anyway to do this?
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Unfortunately, there is no currently known method to remove/disable bloatware on devices that are running firmware 5.2.6.1 or higher.
Damn. Ok thanks
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Due to the new firmware you should only buy a current Fire TV device if you mainly use Amazon Prime!
That was exactly the goal Amazon was pursuing
^ Bull****. My debloated Firestick 2 broke. Still can do everything I could do before, with its replacement 5.26.1 (boot to new launcher etc). Only thing missing is voice search in Leanback.
Would you be so kind as to share? There is A LOT of information to sift through and AFTVNews is actually still indicating that the Fire TV 3 can't be rooted, which we know isn't necessarily true now (given firmware level).
Thank you!
Is there anything I can do to this thing? Mainly what I'm wanting is to run Android on it instead of the Fire OS. Any other cool things I can do to this specific TV?
Bump?
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Is there anything I can do to this thing? Mainly what I'm wanting is to run Android on it instead of the Fire OS. Any other cool things I can do to this specific TV?
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I have the exact same tv and also would love to know any tips or tricks
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I have the exact same tv and also would love to know any tips or tricks
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Remove the back shell of your Insignia Fire TV edition and you can see a bunch of test points on the motherboard.
Before you do this. Make sure the warranty of your TV is expired.
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Remove the back shell of your Insignia Fire TV edition and you can see a bunch of test points on the motherboard.
Before you do this. Make sure the warranty of your TV is expired.
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What would we test? I just want non-Amazon branded android on my TV. Lol
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What would we test? I just want non-Amazon branded android on my TV. Lol
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1) you'd need firmware that was build for your TV models' specs to replace FireOS, which probably doesn't exist
2) there is a whole chain of security with checks from the processor in up to FireOS that will prevent you from replacing FireOS.
Hi I just got the TCL 65" model 65S434 and I was wondering what is the most up to date root instructions for this TV and are there any quality android builds worth exploring as well. This was the Targt black Friday TV. Thanks. Also if anyone has any tweak recommendations I would like to hear them.
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Hi I just got the TCL 65" model 65S434 and I was wondering what is the most up to date root instructions for this TV and are there any quality android builds worth exploring as well. This was the Targt black Friday TV. Thanks. Also if anyone has any tweak recommendations I would like to hear them.
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Im sort of surprised there is no replies. Has anyone looked into rooting this TCL or alternative android builds?
I don't think it's hard as long as you don't update it there were several cve bulletins it on it for huge security holes
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Im sort of surprised there is no replies. Has anyone looked into rooting this TCL or alternative android builds?
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Most of these TVs use the standard MStar T22 (m7322) SoC. Check with AIDA64 or some such and post the info here. Is the TV running Android 9.0?
You should be able to unlock the bootloader from fastboot. To do much beyond that, you're going to need UART access (usually a 3.5 mm Sevice jack on the back or side of the TV; if not, via HDMI).
How much of the above can you do/understand? If something goes wrong, you'll have a brick on your hands and a call to warranty support.
(I have a Hisense 65H6570F from last year that is a T22 with 9.0.)