I have been reading threads non stop for about 4 days now. Great forum.
Quick question about Unrevoked Forever.
Q: If I apply Unrevoked Forever to my Evo and then apply some future Stock, non-rooted OTA (which may have radios, etc) and I loose root because of it, does having the low-level S-OFF from Forever allow me to run Unrevoked32 again and get root back no matter what the stock OTA did?
I am trying to figure out a best practice for myself so that I can apply stock OTA's and then easily re-root WITHOUT having to wipe everything and redo my settings or even use a backup/restore. I like that the stock OTAs don't require that I clear off everything.
Thanks for any help.
mbwesner said:
I have been reading threads non stop for about 4 days now. Great forum.
Quick question about Unrevoked Forever.
Q: If I apply Unrevoked Forever to my Evo and then apply some future Stock, non-rooted OTA (which may have radios, etc) and I loose root because of it, does having the low-level S-OFF from Forever allow me to run Unrevoked32 again and get root back no matter what the stock OTA did?
I am trying to figure out a best practice for myself so that I can apply stock OTA's and then easily re-root WITHOUT having to wipe everything and redo my settings or even use a backup/restore. I like that the stock OTAs don't require that I clear off everything.
Thanks for any help.
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There is one thing I dont understand and that is if you root your phone why would you run OTA updates. Someone in XDA will have that update and put it in a form that you can use on your rooted phone. People updating after they root really baffles me... <-----Sorry bout that
Now to answer your question - I believe your best route would be to root your phone with this method here and this way you lose nothing and can just get an update.zip file after an update comes out. The problem is you never know what will change in future updates and a OTA may unroot your phone. Since none of us know for sure thats a risk you will have to take although unrevoked forever is suppose to get around that.
I just got myself a Note 2, but I have this question that I want to clarify about rooting. I've read about rooting the N7105 in the thread and I'm not looking at swapping custom roms or changing kernels of any sort. I just simply want root access to use Titanium, Cerberus and other root apps. However I'm also concerned about OTA. I want to receive these OTA updates.
The key question I want to know is, will rooting break OTA? This is asked in reference to using apps such as Titanium Backup, Adfree Android, Cerberus, Six Axis and other root apps. I'm not looking at changing any other system files. Can I simply unroot and will be allowed can OTA even though I have other root apps installed? Also how much do I need to be concerned with regarding the flash counter? Does triangle away work even with the updates? I definitely want to keep my flash counter down so that I can unroot and send my device back for servicing in the case of any hardware problems.
Its pretty obvious that OTA will break root although it doesn't seem too hard to root the device again after OTA.
TL;DR Summary of qns:
1) Does OTA break root?
2) If yes, can I unroot (while keeping root apps) and OTA?
3) If no, what extent can I go before I can't OTA? (e.g. are there root apps that modify the system files and prevent OTA?)
4) Does triangle away work with the new updates to reset the flash counter?
Thanks in advance, am hoping to clear up all my doubts before rooting my device.
EDIT: For background's sake, I have some basic experience with rooting my previous phone (HTC Desire HD) but wasn't concerned about OTA because it went EOL at Gingerbread.
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I'm sure this has been asked somewhere, and I tried to find out for myself but I haven't been able to get a definitive answer and I'm rather careful with my phone so that is why I am asking here. I have the Sprint GNote 2 with Android version 4.1.1 and I rooted using CF Auto Root. I have installed a bunch of root programs (Busy Box, Triangle Away, etc.) and made some system modifications and simple sound file changes... now my device wants me to update to a new version of Android. So before I do that, I am assuming that I just go ahead and do the update and then go through the CF Auto Root process again... is that going to affect any of the mods I have made, do I need to keep track of what I've done so I can make the changes after each system update? I'm still learning, so any help is appreciate and sorry for the n00bish question.
Thanks.
~ Sorcerer Merlin.
I had rooted my SGS3 while on 4.0.4 using the stock Samsung rom and Odin without issue no custom ROMS were installed just root access. Early August of 2013 the OTA for 4.1.2 was rolled out and I had accepted the update which was installed without issue, which apparently should not have been the case (everything I can find says OTAs will fail if you have root access, but this was not the case). I now want to either return to a full stock to get the 4.3.3 update at which point I may remain unrooted, or gain root again and update to 4.3.3 with root. I'm cautious about how to proceed here since I've read about a lot of people bricking their phones while attempting to root after 4.3.3. My primary concern is that my flash counter is tripped at 1, but I don't have root access and am not sure how to proceed with out potentially damaging my phone. So I'm essentially getting the worst of both worlds (unable to receive stock updates from carrier, no root access to update otherwise.) and don't want to be stuck on 4.1.2 for the life of this phone. I still have SuperSU installed, but when I open it it says "There is no SuperSU Binary installed and Super SU cannot install it. This is a problem!"
I have searched these forums and a few related to it, and from what I can gather I should just reroot the phone following instructions for 4.1.2, but if I want to make the jump to 4.3.3 I wasn't clear if this would be needed or not, but none of the threads I could find directly addressed the issue for the ATT SGS3 i747. The closest I found was a thread posted last month where the OP was directed to the CF Root procedures, but there was no followup after that. I'm just a little leery about what might happen if I reroot with another method and end up with duplicate files/.apks etc related to the root process on my phone.
I also wanted to be sure that rerooting using a different method wouldn't somehow damage my phone.
Can someone with some experience please advise of the safest best practice for me to either recover root and update, or remove root and update so I can start fresh later? From what I can gather this should be an easy fix, but I would prefer to rely on the expertise of someone more knowledgable as opposed to winging it on a gut feeling I will be ok.
I Finally Got Temporary Root On The AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (and yes it is SuperSU, bit it does require KingRoot)
I Did It
can you post the software info page with the build for verification of which device it's on?
Like you want the build number?
BTW here is how to do it
https://youtu.be/Xr_2LQimK9I
This is temporary root which means that once you reboot you're going to lose root... Sadly not much new...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
Meh, I know but it's better than nothing
Well if this is true it is new because it's on 5.1.1 and not 4.4.4. Going to give it a shot...
So I've tried twice now to root using Kingroot 4.8.0 on Android 5.1.1 and twice my phone has rebooted at the very end when I was trying to download SuperSUMe from the Playstore (did look like root was successful). Might have better luck if I factory reset my phone, but I'm not that interested in getting root.
I can verify that this indeed does provide a temp root on at&t note 4 v5.1.1
BUT! It causes the system to slow down and lag alot and the keyboard no longer works untill the phone is rebooted and when you reboot the samsung startup screen shows a padlock that says custom. So the guys at kingoroot have manged to find a small crack but it is to unstable to use at this time.
I did test out the root permissions on a few apps
1: es file explorer. (I was able to set rw permissions and move files from the internal to ext sd card and see root folders and files in the system)
2: lucky patcher (it was able to gain root and modify installed packages on the fly)
3: es task manager (i was able to acess the root features but changes did not stick)
My hope is maybe someone can learn from this and make the temp root more stable even if temporary (i kinda doubt it since gaining temp root seems to freak the system out causing glitches and stutters)
I obtain temporary root indeed the only I could achieve is, wipe bloatware and change font lol.... So far so good
Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?
Btw guys I rooted my note 4 on KingRoot v4.8.1, they haven't released this version on their website yet
And supersume pro probably won't work on this
I use the terminal emulator and a root script
DAKILLER29 said:
Well remember, with Samsung changing the system on Android 5.1.1 now requiring a custom kernel to root one of their devices and knowing that AT&T locked the bootloader, this is the best we can get as of right now. Give the developers of KingRoot time because they have tried to root the note 4 without needing a custom kernel. I know it doesn't seem like a lot but give them time. We have wait this much for root. Why not wait a little bit longer for the root to stabilize?
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There is a bounty regarding it, if they achieve completely root, 8,000 dollars are waiting for anyone achieving it
4.8.1 does stabalize things a little but i can guarantee just aboit that they are using a hole in the stock keyboard to obtain temp root i am going to experiment with non stock keyboards and see what happens from there. I also noticed that the phone gets hot when rooted
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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At the moment NO temp root is not stable enough to reliably run long enough to enable and keep enabled wifi hotspot unless your carrier has opened that option. Lucky for me wifi teathering is included in my plan with at&t
Any way to run Xposed with this?
So is it available for download somewhere? Or will it be soon?
terryowen said:
Does this temporary root allow the 910A to act as a wifi hotspot?
I was just about to list my Note 4 on Swappa. I can get by without root most of the time but when I need a hotspot, I really need it so I'm back on my Z2 for the moment.
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After delete all the bloatware it allow me to use Hotspot without need foxfi but I'm in Verizon so I couldn't tell you if it applies the same in at&t but I'm sure one of the program installed is the one that blocks or prevents Hotspot to work properly
I used Kingroot 4.8.1 (after you install 4.8.0 and open the app it tells you to update it) on my N910A and it got to 25% and failed? Happened a few times