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Hi guys.
This is a post of mine that I made on the general XDA forum:
Hello everyone,
I would like some advice from you guys as I think you know what you're talking about (and I don't in this area )
Situation:
* not an IT'er, hence not informed about these things
* Current phone = Nokia E51
* Has a long battery life and hence very reliable
* I have a long commute to work every day
Lots of time (waiting) on the train
Would like a phone to mitigate the boredom
Expectations for a new cell phone:
* Battery life of minimally 24 hours
I want to be able to take it off the power grid at 7am on a friday only to have to plug it back in again around 7am on saturday with quite some power (20-25%-ish) to spare
* After having done the following:
some texting and a few minutes of calls throughout the day and evening
browsing/using youtube/watching some movies or listening to music for +-2hours
being able to go out with it at night and google some random stuff (i.e. checking which movies they're playing etc.)
without having to worry in any degree whatsoever that I'll be left with a dead phone in case something unexpected happens during the night (car breakdowns or other accidents, hospital visits, friends or family who urgently need to contact me, etc.)
* Other points of interest:
Budget doesn't matter too much, can be cheap and can be expensive
Screen needs to be fit for reading on the internet/some pdf's etc
No physical keyboard
I do not care about the camera functions
Already took a look at:
* Windowsphone / blackberry (Not my cup of tea)
* HTC (Have only heard bad things about this, and all the people I know who had one got rid of it)
* Iphone (Itunes annoys me, and so do the apple people who freak out about their cell phones)
* Samsung Galaxy S2
Was blown away when I saw this phone
Went to order it yesterday after having read unanimously positive reviews (techradar and such)
Then read about the battery life span which renders it useless to me (had no idea that people can live with that kind of thing in this day and age)
Cancelled it about 2 hours ago and got my money back, thankfully.
* Nokia 5800
link to phone
My brother has this and is happy about it
I can't imagine there's nothing better on the market than a 3 year old phone
So long story short:
I would greatly appreciate any suggestions you guys might have for a phone that would suit me. Perhaps I'm too demanding for current technology?
Thanks guys.
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Somebody on a different forum told me to take a look at a Defy and try and get Cyanomod on it. What are your opinions on this, given my needs and concerns?
great phone, and battery life can easily fit under your requirement, with CM7. camera pretty hopeless unless in bright lights, but since you're not bothered, it's a no-brainer.
probably the best phone that fits your requirements, but then again, HTC Incredible S is pretty up there as well. just that Defy is smaller, and tougher.
I'd definitely recommend this phone to you. It's very quick, especially with Android 2.2 or higher and also the battery life is excellent for a smartphone. I can squeeze about 2-3 days out of it with average use (about the same as you are planning to use it).
I don't see a reason why you wouldn't like this phone.
I also had the Nokia N97 which is about the same as the Nokia 5800 (only difference is the keyboard) and I'm very glad I have the Defy now. My N97 would barely last a day and was very slow.
I'm gonna have to agree I came from a nexus one and my defy is as fast, if not faster then it and gets a 24 hour battery easy. When I take my phone off the charger and head to work I don't take it out until lunch it still has a full battery, that and if you do a dirty job like I do it's dirt and water proof so your covered. I just can't wait for a defy 2
Sent from my Defy
Alright. Thanks for the replies guys.
I decided to look into it, then came across these comments:
http://www.cnet.com.au/motorola-defy-339307513.htm#comments
I'll spare you the trouble of reading them, but 95% of them are outspokenly negative (mostly regarding battery life and build quality). I don't know what to make of that.
Also, if I'd get it I'd like to get the latest android OS on it, can i do that without having to make motionblur accounts and what not?
Nietzschean said:
I'll spare you the trouble of reading them, but 95% of them are outspokenly negative (mostly regarding battery life and build quality). I don't know what to make of that.
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Battery life is significantly improved by installing custom ROMs from what I've heard. And, complaining about the build quality of a rugged phone? That doesn't make any sense.. it feels very solid in the hand, what's more is that additional sense of security you get from the plugged-up sockets.
The problem with most of these reviews are (I'm assuming) that they take the product as-is. The benefits you get from a custom ROM are amazing, but some people just don't bother or haven't even heard of one. Since you've come to this place, I'm guessing you fit in neither of those categories, so good on you
P.S. Quarx is doing a very nice job getting us CM7 on the Defy - that's worth keeping an eye on.
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Battery life is significantly improved by installing custom ROMs from what I've heard. And, complaining about the build quality of a rugged phone? That doesn't make any sense.. it feels very solid in the hand, what's more is that additional sense of security you get from the plugged-up sockets.
The problem with most of these reviews are (I'm assuming) that they take the product as-is. The benefits you get from a custom ROM are amazing, but some people just don't bother or haven't even heard of one. Since you've come to this place, I'm guessing you fit in neither of those categories, so good on you
P.S. Quarx is doing a very nice job getting us CM7 on the Defy - that's worth keeping an eye on.
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Sounds reasonable.
I'm leaning towards this phone more and more, but think that if I get it, it means that I'll have to get CM7 on it (better battery/no branded stuff). Just a bit afraid of messing it up since I don't have any concept of what "flashing" and all the other stuff means.
I found a guide on here, but if anything happens beyond that guide I'd be dead in the water (and even then...).
be brave and take the plunge. you might just find that it isnt that hard after all. even if you do screw up, you wont go far wrong with flashing rsd lite again
Another recommendation for the defy from me. My wife has got the Desire S and it is a lovely phone but the Defy with CM7 gives me better battery life, smaller in the pocket and it runs really smooth and quick. It is pretty rugged so I think that those who complain just abuse their phones.
I am a bit of a battery freak (can't stand the idea of bad battery life) and the defy lasts me several days.
It is the first phone that has lasted me more than 3 months ..... normally I just get bored of them but this one ticks all the boxes.
I am completely new to flashing ROMs and I just followed the FAQ guide for CM7 and it was much easier than I thought it would be. Just read up and follow step by step.
I broke one OPO yesterday beyond repair, its not worth sending it back for the amount they are going to charge me to fix it($223). Will I be happy switching to the G3 since it is a very similar phone or should I look towards something like the G4. I know the G4 is apparently riddled with problems(touch screen issues being the worst) so that scares me a bit.
My biggest concern with the G3 is not the hardware. I know the 801 is still a decent CPU and will hold up for a while, I am nervous about continued support and updates being that the phone is already over a year old.
Sorry if this has been asked a million times, the OPO was my work phone and i need to make this decision ASAP.
wondering the same thing
LG g3 is best phone
better call time and standby time
okay you get like 3-4h screen on against 8h on opo but the opo didnt hold a day at work with bluetooth on and 2h browsing it came dead home mostly or at 10%
but the lg g3 in 2h loses 5% with bluetooth and 3g the opo lost more like 10-15% with the same bluetooth and lg g watch
over all better quality phone and smaller for the same screen
okay its a bit more plastic and slippy, but a tpu case fixes that, the opo has a slow and bad touchscreen worked but needed to press it hard/harder than normal
voila i recommand the lg g3 to all
6months of having a opo was enough the phone wan't premium like i wanted
(exchanged it for a gold 16gb lg g3 about the same value) but a 32gb would be better to have the 3gb ram that the only thing i miss
From my experience (never owned a OPO), I like my LG G3 (not love..). You shouldn't be worried about updates (we will be getting M) and XDA is a great place for updates (AOSP). As for battery, you may or may not like it, it varies for everyone but for me, I can get through a day easily with moderate usage (no gaming, texting, browsing the web, youtube, etc.). If you choose to root, you can get more on AOSP but it varies.
Overall, I like my LG G3 and would recommend it to you as well.
One last thing, the G4 sounds great too but you shouldn't be too worried about touch screen issues on the G4 because I'm sure it's a rare issue and the chances of it happening to you sound so slim. Don't worry too much, its just a phone
Good luck!
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LG g3 is best phone
better call time and standby time
okay you get like 3-4h screen on against 8h on opo but the opo didnt hold a day at work with bluetooth on and 2h browsing it came dead home mostly or at 10%
but the lg g3 in 2h loses 5% with bluetooth and 3g the opo lost more like 10-15% with the same bluetooth and lg g watch
over all better quality phone and smaller for the same screen
okay its a bit more plastic and slippy, but a tpu case fixes that, the opo has a slow and bad touchscreen worked but needed to press it hard/harder than normal
voila i recommand the lg g3 to all
6months of having a opo was enough the phone wan't premium like i wanted
(exchanged it for a gold 16gb lg g3 about the same value) but a 32gb would be better to have the 3gb ram that the only thing i miss
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The OPO did have a solid battery, but I had touch screen issues like you mentioned. They seemed to come and go. When it "exploded" it did have a TPU case and glass screen protector but that didnt save it.
IamFlynn said:
From my experience (never owned a OPO), I like my LG G3 (not love..). You shouldn't be worried about updates (we will be getting M) and XDA is a great place for updates (AOSP). As for battery, you may or may not like it, it varies for everyone but for me, I can get through a day easily with moderate usage (no gaming, texting, browsing the web, youtube, etc.). If you choose to root, you can get more on AOSP but it varies.
Overall, I like my LG G3 and would recommend it to you as well.
One last thing, the G4 sounds great too but you shouldn't be too worried about touch screen issues on the G4 because I'm sure it's a rare issue and the chances of it happening to you sound so slim. Don't worry too much, its just a phone
Good luck!
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I am not a power user, little to no gaming so I think I should be ok.
I am sure the G4 issues are not on every phone but there is a 50 page thread over there about the screen issues and a lot of pissed off people who have returned multiple phones and some who just gave up altogether and moved on. It seems to be a little more than the typical issues that all phones inevitably have.
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I am sure the G4 issues are not on every phone but there is a 50 page thread over there about the screen issues and a lot of pissed off people who have returned multiple phones and some who just gave up altogether and moved on. It seems to be a little more than the typical issues that all phones inevitably have.
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Nonetheless, don't be afraid to try, you have options. Good luck mate!
I ended up pulling the trigger on a used g3 fulfilled by amazon. It is def a solid phone and was pretty cheap.
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skrypj said:
I ended up pulling the trigger on a used g3 fulfilled by amazon. It is def a solid phone and was pretty cheap.
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good for you
the battery will be a bit different
but after some weeks you will get used to it
the opo has lots of screen on time but not standby so at work i don't see much difference using it 2h aday opo or lg g3 about hte same at the end of the day cause of the bad standby
but on a lazy day at home the opo was great 6h straight on the phone gaming internet no problem, lg 2-4h but at the end it is all worth it
i always wanted a lg g3/g2 but was to expensive that why i bought the opo and since the price of the opo didnt go down after 6mopnths use i could exchange it for a lg g3 16gb who was 350 new and 250 2nd had but right now about the same value 300euro new
any way enjoy the lg g3
my opinion is: GO FOR IT!
The LG G3 still one of the best this days and worth the money (32GB/3GB are at 365€ in Portugal ~399$ dollars).
If you are worried because updates and other things, for more 50$ you get the Motorola Nexus 6 32GB and get updates faster, have the SD805 is a bit more faster tha SD801 and is the only thing who are better...but some users report battery issues, screen issues (burning, get pinkish screen) etc etc, depends of lucky not necessary will you have those problems! i own a G3 and i love it:
camera is amazing;
sound is louder but dont have the same quality as Nexus 6!
weight is excellent to handle
screen without sharpness mod is a bit strange because oversharpening;
love the rear buttons and i cant live without this now, is so useful;
OST is about 4 hours but sometimes i get more if i use the phone inside home, i lower the brightness and i get about 5:30 hours;
easy to disassemble if you broke/damage something (i disassembly my G3 to apply thermal compound in processor to have good temps, because my G3 have heat issues.);
have a remote IR, other high-end phones dont have it, is so useful to me because sometimes i forget my remote and use the phone as my remote;
battery can be changed and with this if you get your battery damaged or have one to replace when run out of power you can do it;
overall is a good phone, is my opinion, when i was go to buy a high-end phone i am confused with Motorola Nexus 6 and LG G3, but because the issues is more in Nexus 6 than in G3 i buy the G3 for sure...but, if you arent worred about issues of Nexus 6, buy the Nexus 6 because have better screen color, no oversharpening and have better sound quality because have stereo speakers and have the updates faster!
So I got the phone. It was nearly flawless with a few very minor scratches on the screen. In order to see them you had look at the phone off angle from the bottom right corner, during a full moon, while the planets aligned. In other words I am very happy from a condition standpoint. So far the phone has been great, the camera is way faster, typing seems to be WAY more acurate than my last few phones, and its got an IR blaster which is did not realize. Battery does seem to drain quicker but i am not a power user so i dont think it will be an issue getting through the day.
To me, having seen OPO but not used for long, just do it. OPO is a good phone - for the price tag. Since you can get a cheap factory refurbished G3 now, I see no reason not to move on. Battery is super good with some tweaks and custom roms. Moderate usage and still around 70-80% of battery before going to bed. If you are not showing off your new phone that not many care any more, get a year old phone like g3, s5, and m8...
Now, I know...the M9 has ALWAYS had a reputation for being bad on batteries.
I also know, that Facebook and Messenger are two nasty apps that eat batteries alive.
Saying all of that up front, the battery life on my M9 has very suddenly become VERY bad (even with Facebook and Messenger not installed). I thought it might have been a battery calibration issue, but trying a calibration program out seems to yield no improvement (even in the accuracy of the battery indicator).
So, now, if I'm lucky, I'll get about 2.5hrs of battery life even if the phone is in airplane mode indoors. My battery will get to about 65% and then the phone will shut off. When I try to start the phone, I'll get a 0% indicator sometimes, but after plugging it into the charger, I'll then see about 65% battery instantly.
Is there anything I can do or should I throw in the towel and upgrade to an HTC 10? Things are to the point I can't use the thing when its plugged into the charger!
I was using the last nightly build of CM on the thing for months before it got THIS bad. I thought maybe keeping it plugged into the charger too much was the problem, but wiping the dalvik cache after fully charging might help too... no change. I tired flashing Lineage and the battery life is the roughly the same.
Should I try flashing back to stock or try a firmware upgrade or somekind? I honestly have no clue what to do with this thing.
I honestly believe it's a hardware issue. I've tried most anything and I'm there too! I was just going to buy a lightly used m9, flash my current ROM onto it, and wait for the Pixel 2 (the HTC is looking like a disappointment).
My brother had a similar issue with his M8. Sprint refused to acknowledge any kind of hardware issue and insisted that he must have too many apps running, even after a factory reset. He eventually switched to an HTC 10.
I currently have my HTC 10 in for warranty so I have to us my M9 in the meantime. I tried upgrading to a nougat rom only to get terrible battery life. I switched to the santod stock debloated marshmallow and it lasts the day and a couple of hours. I read on the thread that there are no nougat radios for the M9 which causes the battery drain.
I figured it out. It was the battery all along. Replaced the battery, and the phone is getting the best battery life it has ever gotten.
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I figured it out. It was the battery all along. Replaced the battery, and the phone is getting the best battery life it has ever gotten.
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Did you replace it yourself? Was it that hard? My battery will randomly die at 23% sometimes. Debating on replacing it. Can't afford a pixel at the moment.
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Did you replace it yourself? Was it that hard? My battery will randomly die at 23% sometimes. Debating on replacing it. Can't afford a pixel at the moment.
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Yes, I replaced it myself, and your situation sounds VERY similar to mine. It was one of the trickiest operations I have ever done on a phone by far, but the M9 has a few things that make it much easier to do then the M8 for sure (I was dreading having to replace a USB port on my old M8). I replaced the USB port for my M9 while I was in there and also did the thermal mod to help cool the CPU down. I have a very steady hand and some experience doing these types of things, but am by no means a professional.
I talk about my experiences doing all three of these operations here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72235621&postcount=49
Only additional note I have is, that the Amazon seller I bought my battery from is now out of stock. A friend of mine who just bought a M9 is ordering a new battery for his, so I can update you with that experience soon. As some people seem to be getting old batteries or batteries that aren't holding a charge even from the vendor I bought mine from. I almost wonder if some scumbags are returning batteries to Amazon saying they didn't use them, but are actually sending back their old batteries!
I did notice while looking for new battery replacements on Amazon the other night, that there does appear to be generic non-OEM replacement options on the market now, where I did not find those at the time I did my replacement. My friend is getting his battery off ebay from a Hong Kong seller, so it will likely be a few weeks before we have it in hand.
I also used this video on youtube as reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYm-2dUW03M I stopped and did the USB board replacement before most of the steps (that is actually quite easy to do by itself). You can watch it to get a REALLY good idea of what you'll have to deal with. I had the Verizon version of the M9 to deal with, so I only had one antenna wire instead of two (most be a different antenna in the VZW version of the phone), and getting the CNC connections back together was harder then ANY of the ribbon cables shown. I had to remove my contact lenses and look at the motherboard really close to see it clearly.
@TheXev Thanks for all of the info. I heard that conducting the battery swap was notoriously tricky. I ended up just buying a m9 for cheap and porting everything over to it... when this battery inevitable dies in 6 months I may give the self-replacement a go (or move on to a Pixel or something).
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@TheXev Thanks for all of the info. I heard that conducting the battery swap was notoriously tricky. I ended up just buying a m9 for cheap and porting everything over to it... when this battery inevitable dies in 6 months I may give the self-replacement a go (or move on to a Pixel or something).
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Just finished replacing my battery this morning. Took me about 45 minutes. I followed this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvBvrWN73s&t=180s .... I just hope this will delay me buying a pixel. Expensive!
Bought this one here. I doubt it is OEM but we will see how battery life last on this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OE...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Thanks @TheXev
Aganar said:
My brother had a similar issue with his M8. Sprint refused to acknowledge any kind of hardware issue and insisted that he must have too many apps running, even after a factory reset. He eventually switched to an HTC 10.
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Flyhalf205 said:
Just finished replacing my battery this morning. Took me about 45 minutes. I followed this video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDvBvrWN73s&t=180s .... I just hope this will delay me buying a pixel. Expensive!
Bought this one here. I doubt it is OEM but we will see how battery life last on this. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-OE...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Thanks @TheXev
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Glad it worked out for ya.. but on a stranger note... WTF IS UP WITH THAT VIDEO!? lol its EXACTLY the same as mine, only with a different logo, the font was changed from blue to red.... and the music is different but it is otherwise EXACTLY THE SAME. lol
I'm switching tabs between these videos at different parts, and its just changing colors... I think your video is from the original author, I'm going to let him know about this other channel ripping off their work.
My phone has same battery behavior.
Anyone in Los Angeles area want to swap out my battery for me???
Any reputable phone service places anyone can recommend?
I really don't think I should try to do this myself.
My HTC 10 is going to be 2 years old. And probably see a degradation soon on battery performance. Since Apple has nation-wide local stores to offer $29 battery replacement to iPhones, I am wondering is there any certified battery replacement for HTC? I know BestBuy is doing battery replacement for Samsung phones, but you know HTC is NOT so mainstream as Samsung, is there any place I can have HTC 10 battery replaced? I am pretty sure HTC official support is going to be expensive on this.... wouldn't consider them anyway.
The DIY video kinda scares me away, as I tried to open a few phones several years ago, and there were dirts leaked into screen after I assembled the phone back. So if DIY is my last resort, I wouldn't bother replacing the battery... May consider buying a iPhone or Samsung due to their minimum maintenance efforts.
35€ for a new battery including replacemet services
http://www.fixservis.sk/pokazen-bat-ria-p40698
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http://www.fixservis.sk/pokazen-bat-ria-p40698
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Com'on.. Not in that country.. If shipping to Slovakia is the only way, I'd risk dissembling the phone by myself.
ctzw said:
My HTC 10 is going to be 2 years old. And probably see a degradation soon on battery performance. Since Apple has nation-wide local stores to offer $29 battery replacement to iPhones, I am wondering is there any certified battery replacement for HTC? I know BestBuy is doing battery replacement for Samsung phones, but you know HTC is NOT so mainstream as Samsung, is there any place I can have HTC 10 battery replaced? I am pretty sure HTC official support is going to be expensive on this.... wouldn't consider them anyway.
The DIY video kinda scares me away, as I tried to open a few phones several years ago, and there were dirts leaked into screen after I assembled the phone back. So if DIY is my last resort, I wouldn't bother replacing the battery... May consider buying a iPhone or Samsung due to their minimum maintenance efforts.
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Not sure where you are located, but you might give these guys a try:
https://www.ubreakifix.com/htc-repair
I realize the HTC 10 isn't listed but it might be worth contacting them and see if they can help you with your issue.
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Com'on.. Not in that country.. If shipping to Slovakia is the only way, I'd risk dissembling the phone by myself.
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tried to help... this is what you get when you ask for a repair service and exlude any information about your location... ?
OP:
- Contact the closest HTC you find, maybe you have to ship it to another country, but that is the easiest it will get.
- DO NOT DO IT YOURSELF. I bought an OEM battery for my M7 from a "trusted seller". It's a big shop, and really, people trust them. Took me 2 days to disassemble the phone (obviously with breaks and work and all), it's extremely tedious and cumbersome. Then I put it together, but no charge. Turns out, the new battery was defective out of the box. Also, the repair process is so destructive, I do not think you can take the phone apart 2-3 times. Maybe once, twice if you are extremely careful. But it is almost beyond human - to be so careful and cautious. You have to look out for so many small cables, ribbons. Point is, if HTC messes up, they fix it / give you a new phone, whatever. If you mess up, bye-bye phone.
I called a local UBreakIFix shop, and they said that, since the screen must be removed and it's so thin, to replace the battery on the HTC 10, they would have to charge me for replacing the screen plus battery. About $130 for parts and labor.
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I called a local UBreakIFix shop, and they said that, since the screen must be removed and it's so thin, to replace the battery on the HTC 10, they would have to charge me for replacing the screen plus battery. About $130 for parts and labor.
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Because they're a business, they're all about doing jobs quickly. The longer it takes, the more it costs them to complete it. As such, they can't be bothered with educating themselves on how to do the HTC 10 properly. There is a technique and it takes time. If it wasn't possible, nobody would be doing it with any reported success. The main thing is heating up the phone enough to soften the adhesive, and being gentle enough not to disturb the ribbon cable for the screen.
HTC really boned it on the HTC 10. If there was no battery issue, it would be a strong competitor for the Google Pixel. But they cut corners to keep manufacturing costs low, and sacrificed serviceablility. Coupling that with the common battery problem, they're left with frustrated customers who are destined to abandon the brand. It's a real shame because without the battery issue, the HTC 10 is pretty much about as good as the Google Pixel. I showed mine to a friend with the Pixel and we did a compare. Aside from the Pixel being a little lighter, the screen intensity of the HTC 10 was better and the case feels more solid.
yea HTC won't work on the 10 anymore.. EOL (in USA anyway) and UK won't take it
anyone willing to change my battery?
I will pay, PM me please.
on eBay, you can find brand new HTC 10 for about $110 and brand new HTC U11 for about $170. If your cost of repair is around $100, it would make more sense to purchase a brand new HTC 10 or a brand new HTC U11.
tiga2001 said:
on eBay, you can find brand new HTC 10 for about $110 and brand new HTC U11 for about $170. If your cost of repair is around $100, it would make more sense to purchase a brand new HTC 10 or a brand new HTC U11.
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I agree. I do..
htc u11 doesnt work fully on verizon AFAIK, and I love the 10 anyway.
but for the new htc 10, my issue is that with ebay, some wont take returns, and lithium batteries degrade. new doesn't mean you're getting a new battery.
un-used, yes if new.
but if no returns, and it only has like 70% capacity, I'm where I am now and then stuck with 2 10s
but yes the ONLY place i could find was:
www.ubreakifix.com
they quoted me at $99 for the battery repair, and it includes:
new battery
new screen (if they break it)
new whatever if they break it
(meaning they cover everything for the $99)
and 90 day warranty
soooo. idk
theres literally like no phone im interested in.
and here in the us, at least what ive found is no one will touch it because they can't guarntee the screen not breaking, and once that happens, as you said, gets higher than phone is "worth"
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I agree. I do..
htc u11 doesnt work fully on verizon AFAIK, and I love the 10 anyway.
but for the new htc 10, my issue is that with ebay, some wont take returns, and lithium batteries degrade. new doesn't mean you're getting a new battery.
un-used, yes if new.
but if no returns, and it only has like 70% capacity, I'm where I am now and then stuck with 2 10s
but yes the ONLY place i could find was:
www.ubreakifix.com
they quoted me at $99 for the battery repair, and it includes:
new battery
new screen (if they break it)
new whatever if they break it
(meaning they cover everything for the $99)
and 90 day warranty
soooo. idk
theres literally like no phone im interested in.
and here in the us, at least what ive found is no one will touch it because they can't guarntee the screen not breaking, and once that happens, as you said, gets higher than phone is "worth"
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I see that makes some sense. I am not familiar with the battery degradation of phones that haven't been used in 3 years, but it does sound like a brand new battery would be a good way to go to get maximum battery life. I also wish there was an easy way to replace the battery so that I wouldn't have to go through the route of looking for a new phone. I'm currently planning to get a new HTC U11 from eBay, but was certainly considering another HTC 10 before I discovered how cheap the U11 is from certain sellers.
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I see that makes some sense. I am not familiar with the battery degradation of phones that haven't been used in 3 years, but it does sound like a brand new battery would be a good way to go to get maximum battery life. I also wish there was an easy way to replace the battery so that I wouldn't have to go through the route of looking for a new phone. I'm currently planning to get a new HTC U11 from eBay, but was certainly considering another HTC 10 before I discovered how cheap the U11 is from certain sellers.
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Another thing I forgot about was root, duh lol.
Unlocked model can unlock bootloader, but I'm not sure about s-off app is still available for it. I'd pay the $25 no problem, but would need to refresh myself ifits an option.
I know there's Java cards and xtc clip but that's another investment really, would maybe need to fund someone that already has one
I kept my Note 7 from Verizon. I disabled Samsung's update app through ADB which prevented ALL of the device killing updates from ever even appearing. This is the second version Note 7, with the green battery charging icon, that I obtained after I brought my first Note 7 back for the first recall.
I have since used my Note 7 ever since, with zero problems of any kind. And I just ordered my new Note 9 to replace it, 512GB and 8GB RAM. Fantastic journey!!!
I'm going to keep m Note 7 and was wondering if any definitive solutions for replacing the battery ever emerged? My Note 7 is at the point where it's battery's capacity has simply diminished from normal use. I have every single battery sucking feature always enabled - high accuracy location scanning, etc. I get a few hours out of a full charge before I'm getting low, plus I get precipitous zeroing in cold weather. Like, the phone shuts off if I leave it in the front pocket of my jacket when downhill skiing, when the battery gets below 40%.
So, I *would* like to replace the battery at some point, for that issue. Will an FE battery just go into it as a direct replacement? I did buy an S8+ battery at one point, after reading that it looked like it would fit/work, but I never got around to trying it. And tonight I just read later that it supposedly won't fit/work. So, I was rewarded for my inaction, in that case
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-John
Can you share your ROM?
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I kept my Note 7 from Verizon. I disabled Samsung's update app through ADB which prevented ALL of the device killing updates from ever even appearing. This is the second version Note 7, with the green battery charging icon, that I obtained after I brought my first Note 7 back for the first recall.
I have since used my Note 7 ever since, with zero problems of any kind. And I just ordered my new Note 9 to replace it, 512GB and 8GB RAM. Fantastic journey!!!
I'm going to keep m Note 7 and was wondering if any definitive solutions for replacing the battery ever emerged? My Note 7 is at the point where it's battery's capacity has simply diminished from normal use. I have every single battery sucking feature always enabled - high accuracy location scanning, etc. I get a few hours out of a full charge before I'm getting low, plus I get precipitous zeroing in cold weather. Like, the phone shuts off if I leave it in the front pocket of my jacket when downhill skiing, when the battery gets below 40%.
So, I *would* like to replace the battery at some point, for that issue. Will an FE battery just go into it as a direct replacement? I did buy an S8+ battery at one point, after reading that it looked like it would fit/work, but I never got around to trying it. And tonight I just read later that it supposedly won't fit/work. So, I was rewarded for my inaction, in that case
:good:
-John
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Sorry for mistopic, but can you share your ROM somehow?
My N930V is simply killing me. Interface lags are constant with lots of crashes.
I believe to have the first version without green battery, maybe it's software is not as good as second one.
Can't find any solutions for this on the web unfortunately.
johnpjackson said:
I kept my Note 7 from Verizon. I disabled Samsung's update app through ADB which prevented ALL of the device killing updates from ever even appearing. This is the second version Note 7, with the green battery charging icon, that I obtained after I brought my first Note 7 back for the first recall.
I have since used my Note 7 ever since, with zero problems of any kind. And I just ordered my new Note 9 to replace it, 512GB and 8GB RAM. Fantastic journey!!!
I'm going to keep m Note 7 and was wondering if any definitive solutions for replacing the battery ever emerged? My Note 7 is at the point where it's battery's capacity has simply diminished from normal use. I have every single battery sucking feature always enabled - high accuracy location scanning, etc. I get a few hours out of a full charge before I'm getting low, plus I get precipitous zeroing in cold weather. Like, the phone shuts off if I leave it in the front pocket of my jacket when downhill skiing, when the battery gets below 40%.
So, I *would* like to replace the battery at some point, for that issue. Will an FE battery just go into it as a direct replacement? I did buy an S8+ battery at one point, after reading that it looked like it would fit/work, but I never got around to trying it. And tonight I just read later that it supposedly won't fit/work. So, I was rewarded for my inaction, in that case
:good:
-John
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John, I have a little insight on replacing your battery. Luckily, all Samsungs S6 and up have the same connector. If you are able to find a battery that fits, whether it be an S7 or S7 edge battery, you might be able to do this repair yourself! I haven't had the opportunity to attempt this repair, as I live in a small town, and the device is almost unheard of nowadays. I work at a mobile repair shop with a national branch, known as CPR Cell Phone Repair. I'll do a little more research on this, and give you a reply with an answer on whether or not it's possible.
The battery protection circuit has been *unofficially* identified as the culprit of these devices. So in that case, use a different device's battery, right?
Thanks,
-Mark
Markb001 said:
John, I have a little insight on replacing your battery. Luckily, all Samsungs S6 and up have the same connector. If you are able to find a battery that fits, whether it be an S7 or S7 edge battery, you might be able to do this repair yourself! I haven't had the opportunity to attempt this repair, as I live in a small town, and the device is almost unheard of nowadays. I work at a mobile repair shop with a national branch, known as CPR Cell Phone Repair. I'll do a little more research on this, and give you a reply with an answer on whether or not it's possible.
The battery protection circuit has been *unofficially* identified as the culprit of these devices. So in that case, use a different device's battery, right?
Thanks,
-Mark
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You know, I bought a new battery for an S7 edge for it, but never tried installing it because I did some more reading and thought I saw something that made me think it wouldn't fit or have the correct connector or something.
But, I still have the phone and the new battery and it would be way cool to still do the replacement! The original battery is just really tired and beat. It was diwn to holding maybe a third of its original charge capacity. It would be like having a new phone again if I got a working replacement battery into it!! ??
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You know, I bought a new battery for an S7 edge for it, but never tried installing it because I did some more reading and thought I saw something that made me think it wouldn't fit or have the correct connector or something.
But, I still have the phone and the new battery and it would be way cool to still do the replacement! The original battery is just really tired and beat. It was diwn to holding maybe a third of its original charge capacity. It would be like having a new phone again if I got a working replacement battery into it!!
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Let me know how it goes! I'm interested!