Develop Bugs

Automatic Brightness

For those running the phone at automatic brightness, do you still experience the lags / heating issue as those running at 100%? I'v always run my phone at Automatic as 100% always hurt my eyes (I want good eyes when I get older lol).
Do you still enjoy the screen as much, after all that is the selling point for the lg g3...battery life?

mgbotoe said:
For those running the phone at automatic brightness, do you still experience the lags / heating issue as those running at 100%? I'v always run my phone at Automatic as 100% always hurt my eyes (I want good eyes when I get older lol).
Do you still enjoy the screen as much, after all that is the selling point for the lg g3...battery life?
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The phone is bound to be cooler if you use automatic brightness, and when its cooler it means that the thermal throttle on the CPU doesn't kick in so theoretically the lags will not be as bad either.
As for the final point, I was not aware the LG was being marketed as a phone with immense battery life? I would say the camera, thin bezel and 2K screen are the selling points, battery would not even come close to the top.

Lennyuk said:
The phone is bound to be cooler if you use automatic brightness, and when its cooler it means that the thermal throttle on the CPU doesn't kick in so theoretically the lags will not be as bad either.
As for the final point, I was not aware the LG was being marketed as a phone with immense battery life? I would say the camera, thin bezel and 2K screen are the selling points, battery would not even come close to the top.
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Battery may not be a selling point but will still be nice to know hows the battery with out all that lag / thermal throbbing fighting with the device ^.^ I am fairly satisfy with 4 hour battery life, I am not out to get the 6-7 hour battery life I have been getting on the note 3 3200 battery, so as you can see my standards have dropped.

LG G4 heating

Hi,
How much does your LG G4 heats up? is it constantly warm even with low-moderate use?
Please share your experiences so far!

Mine idles around 30C, hits maybe 35 under heavy CPU load, and gets up to 40-45 while charging (especially when using the fast charger). It's warm enough that I put a small fan in front of it while it charges (heat is bad for batteries) but otherwise I don't really notice. This is Canadian model (H812), rooted and XPosed, but no mods to thermal systems.

Mine (LG H815-AR) does not seem to overheat on idle or charging but when I play a game it heats a little bit. Specially on Smash Hit, that does not runs smoothly as it should (a slight frame by frame lag sometimes). That is incredible, on my LG G2 Smash Hit was a real Hit! No heat and no lag at all... Software update needed or Qualcomm problem?

mine gets to 42-45 when playing (pretty fast) , usual is 30-34 . living in a hot country though

Mine is @30-35 in idle, in games (Dungeon Keeper in particular) can get to 60-65 which is hot, but nothing to worry about...

I had same issue, so after trying all the available internet fixes including factory reset, I decided to mail to LG, PFB their reply (guess heating up is just fine unless you want to burn your skin )
-----------Reply to Customer Enquiry------------
Dear Customer,
Your phone is an electronic device that generates heat during normal operation. Extremely prolonged, direct skin contact in the absence of adequate ventilation may result in discomfort. Therefore, use care when handling your phone during or immediately after operation.
If your phone sometimes heats up than usual, there isn’t cause for concern since the device is functioning normally. For example, your phone may get warm when you’re using on Wifi Or Unstable 3G network Connection.
The Reasons why your device may get warm are
(a)Playing videos, games, or other media apps.
(b)Tethering your device or using it as a Wi-Fi hotspot.
(c)Using the phone while it’s charging.
(d)Downloading or uploading a lot of data over 3G or Wi-Fi connection.
The Ways to prevent your device from heating up are
(A)Keep your phone away from direct heat or excessive sunlight.
(B)Avoid keeping your phone in enclosed or poorly ventilated areas where heat can easily build up.
(C)Don’t use a case or cover that isn’t made for device .
Or
(A)Try by Simply closing the applications that are running in background
(B)Pause resource-intensive features or apps until your phone cools down.
Your phone is an electronic device that generates heat during normal operation.The actual reason for this concern is the extremely high resolution LCD used in this phone.
The Quad HD IPS display provides with four times the pixels of HD with a superior pixel density. You can see sharp, detailed imagery on screen with an advanced pixel structure that provides a near infinite contrast of deep blacks and bright whites as well as more accurate color reproduction.
Due to this Quad HD LCD, battery drainage will be more as compared to other models & hence battery backup will be lesser & due to high data processing , more heat will be generated.
Higher resolution results in increased data processing and speed of GPU, CPU, DDR memory and etc. All of these factor in power consumption increases the temperature of device also.
This heating is absolutely normal & will cause no damage to the phone.
Also The phone has a inbuilt thermal protection, which reduces the CPU usage, brightness etc when the temperature increases.
Do register on their site and ask them all the queries to be sure its not a defective piece. Mine seems to get fine with the day by day usage, not sure why though
Regards
SK

In Taiwan, someone used this way to preventing the heating:
link.
But I used closing 2 cpu core to prevent it, because the warranty...

JeremyChen said:
In Taiwan, someone used this way to preventing the heating:
link.
But I used closing 2 cpu core to prevent it, because the warranty...
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I used to do that disabled 2 Big Core and or lower clock to 1.5Ghz.
But since I installed CTT Mod....I don't have to do that. Its Run Cool.

Does the OnePlus 3 get extremely hot to the touch?

Everywhere I looked they said that the OnePlus 3 has the least thermal throttling and best sustained performance of any phone out there. But nobody discussed why exactly it did not throttle while other phones did. Everyone simply said "Oh they must have very good thermal management or something". Then I saw a video comparing the temperatures of the ZTE axon 7 and the OnePlus 3 (google "Zte axon 7 vs OnePlus 3 antutu thermal throttling"), it turns out the reason the OnePlus 3 doesn't throttle isn't some magical thermal dissipation and management, it's solely because they raised the temperature at which the phone would throttle to beyond comfortable zones. In the video with just a few iterations of Antutu CPU test, the OnePlus 3 metal skin's temperature reached a scorching 47 degrees Celcius. Google shows that holding anything metal at 50 degrees Celcius for more than a brief moment can cause tissue damage (1st degree burns). And this phone was just shy of that temperature during Antutu's benchmarks when only the CPU was running, so can you imagine what temperatures it would reach when you're playing a highly graphical game where both CPU and GPU are being taxed at the same time? Why does nobody talk about this?

nothing to worry about IMO

Roykooiman said:
nothing to worry about IMO
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Thank you for your useless opinion friend.

The only game i play on the one plus it's hearthstone but I don't notice an high temperature during session ... I think a benchmark it's one of the most stressful things you can do with your smartphone...
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nardustyle said:
The only game i play on the one plus it's hearthstone but I don't notice an high temperature during session ... I think a benchmark it's one of the most stressful things you can do with your smartphone...
sent from my brain using a spell
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No actually Hearthstone is not a demanding game at all, not even remotely. In fact an iphone 4 could run it without busting a sweat. And many games can actually be more stressful than a benchmark because you would be running both CPU and GPU at the same time and would likely be running the GPU at 100%. Most GPU benchmarks run the GPU at 100% too but without using the CPU at the same time.

A non issue imo
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=CrK3C9VLuTg

ohyesman said:
A non issue imo
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=CrK3C9VLuTg
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I can't figure out why the hell that idiot in the video used real racing as a benchmark. Do these people even know what a GPU or CPU is?
Anyway, that video is not reliable, especially since the OnePlus 3 uses a 1080p display and has to push far less pixels than those other phones, that game does not tax the phone's hardware in any way shape or form.

The CPU starts throttling at 75°C like pretty much any other phone out there... This thing just dissipates heat better than any other Android phone out there which is why the chassis heats up a bit more. Don't worry it doesn't get that hot at all

crzykiller said:
This thing just dissipates heat better than any other Android phone out there which is why the chassis heats up a bit more. Don't worry it doesn't get that hot at all
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Proof?

Pong Lenis said:
Proof?
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The fact that there's a lot of us out here using the phone, but as far as I've seen zero reports of people getting burnt by hot phones, in. Y experience it stays way cooler to the touch than either of my last two phones (Xperia z2 and Samsung s3).

Question Heating up from basic usage

Is it normal for this device to heat up from basic usage (such as browsering and social media).
By heat I do not mean overheating but it does make the hand feel quite warm.
This worries me alot since I get annoyed by phones who get hot with basic usage.
Would this be because of the sd870 chip?

For me it does warm up a little bit during normal use but it's way better than my previous phones, idk maybe my standards of phone temperature is different than y'all. And if it was running a SD888 it would be even worse.

Jing Arjay87 said:
For me it does warm up a little bit during normal use but it's way better than my previous phones, idk maybe my standards of phone temperature is different than y'all. And if it was running a SD888 it would be even worse.
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I think mayb the issue is me comparing it to a snapdragon 730g

This was my concern also but in my case hearing was mostly during charging. I replaced the device and so far things are a tad bit better

TweaknFreak said:
This was my concern also but in my case hearing was mostly during charging. I replaced the device and so far things are a tad bit better
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Charging especially fast charging produce heat.
Charging is an electrochemical reaction that requires a certain amount of heat to charge properly. Oddly Li charging is a mildly endothermic reaction but resistive elements in the cell produce much more heat than is absorbed.
♤Do not use phone while charging as it will skew the charging curve.
♤Listeners to music (no internet streaming) on bt with screen off is generally ok.
Best start temperature for fast charging is 82°F or higher (85-90°F seems optimum on my N10+).
Do not let battery temperature exceed about 101°F while charging, cool as needed.
♤I use a fan and/or a damp microfiber cloth to keep it cool, works well.
Li plating will permanently degrade your battery and can cause outright failures.
Never charge a Li polymer that is near freezing temperatures.
Charging below 72°F or in high temperatures (exact value unknown, some say >140°F but this may not apply to Li polymer) My Note 10+ will stop charging at about 102°F so hence the 100°F limit. In any case temperatures higher than 90°F aren't needed for fast/optimum charging and only shorten the lifespan of the battery.

EvilMegaDroid said:
Is it normal for this device to heat up from basic usage (such as browsering and social media).
By heat I do not mean overheating but it does make the hand feel quite warm.
This worries me alot since I get annoyed by phones who get hot with basic usage.
Would this be because of the sd870 chip?
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Nope, miui is chock full of bloatware and make these phone warm up even some basic task. Tried several custom room in our forum, no heat up at all

I think it has to do since its summer too, debloated through but it still gets warm using social if I'm outside or if its under the sun.
From my logic this has 100% to do with a higher end cpu since as I said my sister samsung a71 does not do that.
Mostly worried that the xiomi build quality is **** that's why I asked

EvilMegaDroid said:
I think it has to do since its summer too, debloated through but it still gets warm using social if I'm outside or if its under the sun.
From my logic this has 100% to do with a higher end cpu since as I said my sister samsung a71 does not do that.
Mostly worried that the xiomi build quality is **** that's why I asked
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Use manual brightness control. Try to avoid going over 50%... and don't use in direct sunlight. High screen brightness increases current drain/heat a noticeable amount.

You're on to something when it comes to brightness... Newer panels that are being used in the latest Chinese devices all have very high sustained brightness. Which is nice and all but no1 had considered how that will play in combination with the newest chips,
If you compare F2 and F3 the earlier model only had sustained brightness of 500cd/m2 whereas the newer model can sustain 900cd/m2 of brightness - that's a huge difference
Then what about chips? Both snapdragon 888 and 870 are dumpster fires ( Even the dimensity chips ) , while the performance gain is insane compared to last gen so is the heat output... And sadly even the gaming devices with cooling fans struggle to keep the chips from throttling. Take black magic 6 pro for a shameless example (snap 888), it reaches upwards of 55C on the phone body itself during benchmarking with no signs or intention for throttling down to save your hands- that itself should be illegal but no1 ****ing cares since how else are they gonna reach those benchmark numbers.... ( 54C can cause full thickness burns in a matter of 30 seconds or so )
I don't have poco f3 to check but from looking at stress tests on YouTube you can see that they are much more conservative when it comes to heat. It reaches only 42C during benchmarking then starts to throttle down and basically hovers around that temp 42C-44C.
The chips are already insanely good when it comes to performance but the cooling is pacing behind... So yeah it's pretty normal that your device is getting hot - so is every other device on the flagship market rn. Most you can do to solve that would be in this order > Get a peltier cooling device like blackshark fun cooler pro > Lower the brightness to what's usable for you and hope it's enough to somewhat delay the throttling > The last one would be messing with the phone itself like downclocking it or lowering the voltage. It's a cat and mouse game , the throttling will come eventually , the only way out I see would be the first option or the last one if you're capable enough to mess with that and are lucky enough to get a chip that undervolts nicely.

Cooling?
Simply use a damp microfiber cloth.

Question Oneplus 11 overheating / poor gaming performance

Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.

Return it as defective and get another.

EtherealRemnant said:
Return it as defective and get another.
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unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.

verxolois said:
unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.

EtherealRemnant said:
Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.

verxolois said:
thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.

EtherealRemnant said:
Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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I've heard that too on the 7900 but its the first time I heard about it on a mobile device, hence am wondering how gaming performance are faring for others with OP11.

verxolois said:
Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)

ChrisFeiveel84 said:
80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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This is in LA, so around 50-70 F or 10-20C. CPU runs at fairly okay temperature around 30-40C for normal day to day use (texting, redditing...). It's just a stark contrast from my OP8T or S23U since I pretty much don't notice those phones heating up but with OP11 I can consistently feel it gets warm.

My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.

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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chamber is used to spread heat. It is not some magic material which makes heat disappear.

whoamanwtf said:
My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.

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verxolois said:
Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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The best solution i can give u is to buy a peltier cooler i.e Oneplus 18W freezing point, Oneplus 11 has a very good passive cooling and with a good peltier you wont have such issues
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thanks for the solution but dont think i do enough serious gaming on the phone to warrant a cooler. Just a bit disappointed and surprised at the overheating and throttling despite oneplus touting it having one of the better cooling systems out there. Since it happened on both OP11 I got my hands on, I'm going to attribute this to more of a software than hardware issue as other phones with same chipsets don't seem to have overheating problems.