Is it normal for this device to heat up from basic usage (such as browsering and social media).
By heat I do not mean overheating but it does make the hand feel quite warm.
This worries me alot since I get annoyed by phones who get hot with basic usage.
Would this be because of the sd870 chip?
For me it does warm up a little bit during normal use but it's way better than my previous phones, idk maybe my standards of phone temperature is different than y'all. And if it was running a SD888 it would be even worse.
Jing Arjay87 said:
For me it does warm up a little bit during normal use but it's way better than my previous phones, idk maybe my standards of phone temperature is different than y'all. And if it was running a SD888 it would be even worse.
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I think mayb the issue is me comparing it to a snapdragon 730g
This was my concern also but in my case hearing was mostly during charging. I replaced the device and so far things are a tad bit better
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This was my concern also but in my case hearing was mostly during charging. I replaced the device and so far things are a tad bit better
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Charging especially fast charging produce heat.
Charging is an electrochemical reaction that requires a certain amount of heat to charge properly. Oddly Li charging is a mildly endothermic reaction but resistive elements in the cell produce much more heat than is absorbed.
♤Do not use phone while charging as it will skew the charging curve.
♤Listeners to music (no internet streaming) on bt with screen off is generally ok.
Best start temperature for fast charging is 82°F or higher (85-90°F seems optimum on my N10+).
Do not let battery temperature exceed about 101°F while charging, cool as needed.
♤I use a fan and/or a damp microfiber cloth to keep it cool, works well.
Li plating will permanently degrade your battery and can cause outright failures.
Never charge a Li polymer that is near freezing temperatures.
Charging below 72°F or in high temperatures (exact value unknown, some say >140°F but this may not apply to Li polymer) My Note 10+ will stop charging at about 102°F so hence the 100°F limit. In any case temperatures higher than 90°F aren't needed for fast/optimum charging and only shorten the lifespan of the battery.
EvilMegaDroid said:
Is it normal for this device to heat up from basic usage (such as browsering and social media).
By heat I do not mean overheating but it does make the hand feel quite warm.
This worries me alot since I get annoyed by phones who get hot with basic usage.
Would this be because of the sd870 chip?
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Nope, miui is chock full of bloatware and make these phone warm up even some basic task. Tried several custom room in our forum, no heat up at all
I think it has to do since its summer too, debloated through but it still gets warm using social if I'm outside or if its under the sun.
From my logic this has 100% to do with a higher end cpu since as I said my sister samsung a71 does not do that.
Mostly worried that the xiomi build quality is **** that's why I asked
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I think it has to do since its summer too, debloated through but it still gets warm using social if I'm outside or if its under the sun.
From my logic this has 100% to do with a higher end cpu since as I said my sister samsung a71 does not do that.
Mostly worried that the xiomi build quality is **** that's why I asked
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Use manual brightness control. Try to avoid going over 50%... and don't use in direct sunlight. High screen brightness increases current drain/heat a noticeable amount.
You're on to something when it comes to brightness... Newer panels that are being used in the latest Chinese devices all have very high sustained brightness. Which is nice and all but no1 had considered how that will play in combination with the newest chips,
If you compare F2 and F3 the earlier model only had sustained brightness of 500cd/m2 whereas the newer model can sustain 900cd/m2 of brightness - that's a huge difference
Then what about chips? Both snapdragon 888 and 870 are dumpster fires ( Even the dimensity chips ) , while the performance gain is insane compared to last gen so is the heat output... And sadly even the gaming devices with cooling fans struggle to keep the chips from throttling. Take black magic 6 pro for a shameless example (snap 888), it reaches upwards of 55C on the phone body itself during benchmarking with no signs or intention for throttling down to save your hands- that itself should be illegal but no1 ****ing cares since how else are they gonna reach those benchmark numbers.... ( 54C can cause full thickness burns in a matter of 30 seconds or so )
I don't have poco f3 to check but from looking at stress tests on YouTube you can see that they are much more conservative when it comes to heat. It reaches only 42C during benchmarking then starts to throttle down and basically hovers around that temp 42C-44C.
The chips are already insanely good when it comes to performance but the cooling is pacing behind... So yeah it's pretty normal that your device is getting hot - so is every other device on the flagship market rn. Most you can do to solve that would be in this order > Get a peltier cooling device like blackshark fun cooler pro > Lower the brightness to what's usable for you and hope it's enough to somewhat delay the throttling > The last one would be messing with the phone itself like downclocking it or lowering the voltage. It's a cat and mouse game , the throttling will come eventually , the only way out I see would be the first option or the last one if you're capable enough to mess with that and are lucky enough to get a chip that undervolts nicely.
Cooling?
Simply use a damp microfiber cloth.
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Hi,
How much does your LG G4 heats up? is it constantly warm even with low-moderate use?
Please share your experiences so far!
Mine idles around 30C, hits maybe 35 under heavy CPU load, and gets up to 40-45 while charging (especially when using the fast charger). It's warm enough that I put a small fan in front of it while it charges (heat is bad for batteries) but otherwise I don't really notice. This is Canadian model (H812), rooted and XPosed, but no mods to thermal systems.
Mine (LG H815-AR) does not seem to overheat on idle or charging but when I play a game it heats a little bit. Specially on Smash Hit, that does not runs smoothly as it should (a slight frame by frame lag sometimes). That is incredible, on my LG G2 Smash Hit was a real Hit! No heat and no lag at all... Software update needed or Qualcomm problem?
mine gets to 42-45 when playing (pretty fast) , usual is 30-34 . living in a hot country though
Mine is @30-35 in idle, in games (Dungeon Keeper in particular) can get to 60-65 which is hot, but nothing to worry about...
I had same issue, so after trying all the available internet fixes including factory reset, I decided to mail to LG, PFB their reply (guess heating up is just fine unless you want to burn your skin )
-----------Reply to Customer Enquiry------------
Dear Customer,
Your phone is an electronic device that generates heat during normal operation. Extremely prolonged, direct skin contact in the absence of adequate ventilation may result in discomfort. Therefore, use care when handling your phone during or immediately after operation.
If your phone sometimes heats up than usual, there isn’t cause for concern since the device is functioning normally. For example, your phone may get warm when you’re using on Wifi Or Unstable 3G network Connection.
The Reasons why your device may get warm are
(a)Playing videos, games, or other media apps.
(b)Tethering your device or using it as a Wi-Fi hotspot.
(c)Using the phone while it’s charging.
(d)Downloading or uploading a lot of data over 3G or Wi-Fi connection.
The Ways to prevent your device from heating up are
(A)Keep your phone away from direct heat or excessive sunlight.
(B)Avoid keeping your phone in enclosed or poorly ventilated areas where heat can easily build up.
(C)Don’t use a case or cover that isn’t made for device .
Or
(A)Try by Simply closing the applications that are running in background
(B)Pause resource-intensive features or apps until your phone cools down.
Your phone is an electronic device that generates heat during normal operation.The actual reason for this concern is the extremely high resolution LCD used in this phone.
The Quad HD IPS display provides with four times the pixels of HD with a superior pixel density. You can see sharp, detailed imagery on screen with an advanced pixel structure that provides a near infinite contrast of deep blacks and bright whites as well as more accurate color reproduction.
Due to this Quad HD LCD, battery drainage will be more as compared to other models & hence battery backup will be lesser & due to high data processing , more heat will be generated.
Higher resolution results in increased data processing and speed of GPU, CPU, DDR memory and etc. All of these factor in power consumption increases the temperature of device also.
This heating is absolutely normal & will cause no damage to the phone.
Also The phone has a inbuilt thermal protection, which reduces the CPU usage, brightness etc when the temperature increases.
Do register on their site and ask them all the queries to be sure its not a defective piece. Mine seems to get fine with the day by day usage, not sure why though
Regards
SK
In Taiwan, someone used this way to preventing the heating:
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But I used closing 2 cpu core to prevent it, because the warranty...
JeremyChen said:
In Taiwan, someone used this way to preventing the heating:
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But I used closing 2 cpu core to prevent it, because the warranty...
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I used to do that disabled 2 Big Core and or lower clock to 1.5Ghz.
But since I installed CTT Mod....I don't have to do that. Its Run Cool.
when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
Just hit them back up
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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when using wifi/4g in my house, i watched video, browsed fb and even shared internet and all. below i'll give my observations:
in wifi:
watching video, fb and browsing, whatsappin: the phone get very very slightly warm like not warm just the bit different from the phones usual temp like it hovers around 33-34.
when gaming in wifi it goes arounf 36-39 (NOVA 3) battery never crossed 31..
4g in my house, battery arounf 32-33, temperature around 37-39 for all.
but when i step out of my house, like when i'm operating my mobile in train/bus and the ambient temperature varies from say 28-32, my phone gets considerably hot and today, i was travelling in Bus and the ambient temp was around 35 and i was just browsing , watching videos and fb, my phone became hot like it even would have touched 43-46! i felt it hot to touch, is this norma(it's making me extremely paranoid)l!!??? if this is the case what happens if it's summer here, the phone would become blazingly hot, coz in summer ambient temp would be around 36-44 and all!!
Is this normala or am i unlucky for the second time ? I'm getting paranoid!
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With heavy multitasking, I hit 60+. Not regularly, but it has happened. The temperatures you're hitting are normal for me. I've had zero issues with the device. I have an OtterBox case, so I don't feel the heat as much. Honestly, I barely even notice heat at those temperatures. Considering the fact that the body of the device is aluminum, it's going to easily get hot to the touch.
Also, my One would almost always run between 45-70, and I've had that since launch. Used it heavily daily for years, and I still use it regularly as an app development device. No issues.
These devices have extremely powerful processors. They get hot. There's not an easy, efficient, way to cool a processor in a device like this yet, but they're designed for heavy use, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
This is nothing lol. I live in Scotland so just now ambient temperature range from 5-13 °c and in my house 21-23°c and my Z3+ hits 60-70°c easily on heavy use. Benchmarked it one day and hit 90°c. The joys of the 810 chipset. Anyway away to upgrade to the OP3T so i should see and feel a massive difference.
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Hi first of all thanks for the reply.. I'll tell you what really made me paranoid.. Every evening I travel in bus and train and the ambient temperature would be from27-28_29.. I use 4g jio.. I just browsw/fb/insta.. In minutes my phone near the earpiece on the screen gets warmed up and it'd go around 40-41. Then I lock it it cools down fast but when I unlock it in seconds again starts warming up... My friend using same 4g in moto g4plus but his screen is cooler than mine... Please my one last doubt...
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Install a custom ROM and kernel and limit your background tasks. You may just have a bunch of things running using your CPU.
Thank you all!
Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
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Hey all thank you guys very much for replying to my thread! i'm really feeling okay instead of getting paranoid with my phone.. although i'd be very happy if you guys just clear me this last doubt!
today I was playing NOVA 3 connected to wifi in an ambient temperature of 25C, 5-10mins into gaming, CPU reaCHED A MAX OF 41c and at around 20 it maintaining at 43 but jumping sometimes 45.. this is gaming, but i get the same temperature just browsing in knda same ambient temp while I'm travelling. and also browsing in wifi/4g(fb,insta,chrome) in my house in ambient 25-27 gets the phone phone to 35-37... and the rest of the pat of the mobile is cool, even the back side is normal, only the small portion between the earpiece..
why is this happening? is this normal(it'd be great if you guys clear this)? if yup y so? and why phones like oneplus x and moto g4 etc have relatively less temp than OP3..
I know it'd be irritating to answer kinda same question again, but this would my help paranoiac freaking out for my mobile will go down..
thanks in advance for your replies
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Because the Oneplus 3 is a lot faster, the Temps you are giving are n even close to hot... This has been one of the cooler phones so far.
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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Explorer23 said:
Like others said, those temps are completely normal. Hell, I'd even expect them to be higher with your fairly high ambient temps.
About comparison with other phones - it all depends on internals and design. OP3 is made of aluminum so it'll dissipate more heat into the case - you'll feel it better. Other mentioned phones are plastic, so they'll contain more heat inside (you'll not feel so much heat, but the cpu may even run hotter).
And OP3 has cpu located just below the camera, so it's normal that it reaches top temps in that upper center part of the device.
P.S.: You talked about loads and ambient temps, but didn't mention screen brightness - that also plays a massive role in running temperatures.
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for me mostly brightness bar will be in the middle... i never use it with high brightness..
Just get a case and maybe a screen protector so that you can't feel it getting hot.
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Are you serious.... When the ambient temp is 35 degree what else would you expect... Every phone on the planet will get that temperature. Can't believe you had a phone returned for this. You know the front of the device is black and absorbs light... When the sun hits your phone it's gonna heat up also. This phone is the best Android phone when it comes to thermal throttling.
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hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
All the temps you posted are normal
About Moto g, it has much weaker SoC. A Ferrari's engine gets much more hotter than a toy car. Doesn't mean there is anything wrong with Ferrari
4G /3G active usage can get hotter than gaming. That's also normal
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hey ya !! sorry to disturb you again and again.. just a urios doubt.. what'd be the temperature of the phone or how hot can it gets, when u use 4g and fb app in ambient temperature of 29C and 33C..
mine got arounf 38-41 for the 1st cse and around 43 for the second case..
I know i'm being paranoid, ,but please, clearing tis would help stop worrying a bit
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Nothing much to worry here. Even I use Jio all the time. My OP3 get a lot hotter than any other device I use before. Reasons I knew are these.
1. OP3 rock with a high end processor. Say SD 820. Other phones you mentioned are consisting of relatively lower end processor. So internally they might heat up more that OP3 while doing high processor intensive tasks, but the plastic casing keep the heat inside, as OP3 is made up of Aluminum that being a metal heats up so quickly and and u feel more hotter in hands than the other ones and also it cools faster.
2. AFAIK the processor is situated just below the Camera bump. Hence it heats up very quickly at that area. Irrespective of outside temperature.
3.While using 4G network it's obvious that the phonehave to communicate with the network at a very high rate than 2G or WiFi. So it's clear that it will heat up. Also using high processor intensive application like Facebook gives the processor high stress and it heats up in no time.
Remedies
1. Use a case. That somewhat helps in insulating the heat.
2.If possible use WiFi rather than 4G network. That will considerably helps your battery life.
Conclusion.
Don't worry about the warmth of the phone.Its normal. Just enjoy using the phone.
Never Settle.
Cheers.
Clearly never experienced a SD810 device. I'm sure Snapdragon took there name too seriously with that chipset. I could hit HIGH 80°c in seconds playing basic games, using the camera and under heavy usage. Had to tailer my use around my Z3+ but now I have the 3T I can do what I want and it never goes past 50°c so far.
What are the normal temperature for oneplus 3, when playing games, using fb,messsenger,whatsapp in 4g and watching video and doing all the same activities in an ambent temperature of 29
I don't think many people actually measure temps of their phones ... Suffice to say - it can get pretty warm, but not too hot (maybe max around 45°C on surface). Internal (cpu) I guess could easily achieve 70+.
P.S.: Stop being so paranoid! This is at least third thread you opened about temperatures and people keep telling you that your phone is NOT overheating ...
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This is the reason
I posted a pic using cpu Z... It was when I was uploading a video in Instagram.... See sensors Reaching 50-55???
I was tethering and using Instagram.. Is this normal for this
With light usage i get about 30°c and on heavy load the cpu goes up to 70°c, those temps are pretty normal
FFS it's a metal backed device which conducts heat but also passively cools faster. Devices are getting very powerful. I came from a Z3+ which hit 80-90 °c on the soc. This device is no where near being "hot" and that's from running consistent synthetic benchmarks and gets to 50°c but cooled very fast.
If it hits 80°c + on the Soc not the individual cores as they ramp up and down very fast then maybe you can repost.
Holy crap I'm tired of this... Those sensors are for the CPU, the CPU throttles at 85°C and here you are asking us the same question in which we've already answered you.. THERE IS NO PROBLEM with your phone. Now stop asking these questions and stop being so freakin paranoid. It's hot outside your phone will get hot.
My Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G device is heating upto 46⁰+ in BGMI with Screen Recording and Max Brightness. Hows your?
Is this is normal?
please Help!
5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.
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5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable
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5G standard user:
Heating is much resolved by software compared to what was happening in the beginning. They apparently curb SD 780G and it become real 5 nm chipset. Normal phone use, multiapping with average brightness just make it lukewarm, huge improvement, battery also improved and is good enough considering amazing phone weight. And extremely snappy on MIUI 13, even faster than on 12.5.
Can't say about temp but I'm sure max brightness plus GPS or gaming must make it way above 45 degrees as almost any other phone (or in your case screen recording and max brightness; our displays are rather average AMOLED tech not LPTO so they need a lot of energy on max hence battery suffers). Less weight probably also means less metal inside so this phone must sometimes get hotter but it's still more than reasonable.
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So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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You said SD 780G with 5nm, why?
Abhishek5247 said:
So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.
sirgoldi said:
It's totally normal, don't worry about it if temp is fine during standard use.
Mine is 5G version not NE but with 780G Snap, only difference. Almost same processor.
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Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...
Abhishek5247 said:
Yes bro, I have one more question that is When I was playing BGMI in that condition which mentioned above after temperature went above 46⁰+ the game became choppy and ping is also became poor. So, Is this also a normal? Or I should Return this please reply...
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It is. Its name is throttling. It happens when chipset is getting too hot and processor/GPU has to slow down automatically as a safety measure to prevent it from damaging itself due to high temperature.
Mi 11 Lite 5G (NE) is pretty innovative design but also not the best choice for gamers as heat dissipation in those phones might be a bit affected because of less metal parts/radiators inside (to reduce its weight). Best would be to make a break or lower resolution/details. Or use fan blowing cold air into your phone in hands.
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So, should I return my phone because it is in return policy or your phone also heats this much? And Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G has SD 778G Processor and 6nm. Isn't it?
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It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
zgfg said:
It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.
Abhishek5247 said:
what should be the maximum temperature during normal usage? See mine in attached files in full brightness and at auto brightness it is at approx 35⁰+. Please guide.
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Cannot 'guide' you. I didn't observe any heating (11 Lite 5G NE, MIUI 12.5.8) and I don't play any games (except solving 5x5x5x cube - but my brain lightly heats then, not the phone)
Consult the service.
If you are unhappy and if your return policy allows, return, pay the difference and take some Pro phone
Also do not expect any flagship with Snap 888 to be much cooler. Performance will be definitely higher but they tend to throttle too and heats like crazy if game is demanding.
Maybe Dimensity 1200 is better in terms of that and much cheaper.
According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.
tag68 said:
According to the test from notebookcheck which always contains temperature the 5G NE should not heat when not in use. It has a much lower temperature than other devices.
Have a look if you have the wakelock bug. This would heat the device and drain battery.
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How to find & resolve this bug?
Now the temperature is approx 38⁰ - 40⁰ during normal usage is this temperature is normal?
zgfg said:
It's about the model/chipset, not your particular unit.
If you replace the unit with another the same model - same workload will again cause the same heating
For heavy gaming you had to choose a phone with more powerful hardware (and with the higher price tag)
Any "Lite" model is obviously not a top-notch gaming machine
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And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.
Wakelock bug:
I'm not sure how the menu is in English.
Settings (Einstellungen)
Battery (Akku)
Scroll a bit down
Change that list to "Details"
If you see "Wake/Awoke" (Wach) is a full line without any interruption, reboot. This resolves it, at least for this time.
It occurred on my device once, it is a Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro. I would be astaunished if it could not happen on the 11 Lite 5G NE.
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And what if this unit is defective? How to find that this device is good in condition and others Xiaomi 11 Lite NE 5G devices facing the dame issues.
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I really don't know, didn't observe (I don't use a lot my Lisa), hence frankly I'm also not interseted about - sorry (user like not, I'm not the Xiaomi helpdesk)
You can ask the service or exercise the return policy - if applicable (I'm not fully happy with my phone but I cannot return and take another unit or model)
Hopefully the answer from tag68 in the previous post can be much more useful for you
See the test on notebookcheck, there's a photo of a heatmap. Their measurement was the highest temperature when heavily used (benchmark) as 33.4 degree Celsius on the upper side, which is quite low compared to other models.
I have a doubt about what is measured during such tests, becaus my Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE overheats in direct sunlight like crazy. It cannot be used to take pictures, see anything on the screen.
I would not recommend this phone for a vacation trip where outdoor temperatures reach 30 or more degrees celsius. I got this overheating while downloading over LTE and after 4 minutes with outdoor temperature at 26 degrees, the phone simply shuts off GPS, BT, WiFi and LTE plus it shows the overheating warning on the display.
I had to turn my back to the sun to read the message, it is a very bad experience and I already regret that I fell for all these comments that the phone does not have any overheating issues. It has, big time and it is very sad that this is never mentioned in any reviews.
I did not buy a phone that must be carried in the dark and cannot be used in direct sunlight. This is simply a no go for me and I will return my phone at the next occasion for a refund.
Furthermore, I did the CPU throttling test and yes this phone with the SD 778 is throttling horribly, this is so bad. I returned my phone now for a refund.
Just as an example how other phones behave I have also tested the Mi 9 Lite, same throttling test, no issue at all the phone did not throttle a single bit whereas the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE did throttle after one minute from 100% to 80% and even further down. This phone is not fit for it's task, there are too many compromises made to the size and thickness of the phone.
Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
Return it as defective and get another.
EtherealRemnant said:
Return it as defective and get another.
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unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
verxolois said:
unfortunately I took the chance and bought the phone locally at a much cheaper price so a return is not possible.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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Well it sounds like you have a defective vapor chamber with temps that high unless your ambient is quite high too so see if you can file a warranty claim.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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thats a bummer but how often do vapor chamber become defective especially on a new device? Will try to file a warranty claim but might be hard as its not purchased directly through oneplus and lacking receipt as well.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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I've heard that too on the 7900 but its the first time I heard about it on a mobile device, hence am wondering how gaming performance are faring for others with OP11.
verxolois said:
Just got my Oneplus 11 CPH2451 on the A09 build and I'm seemingly running into quite a bit of overheating on the device. Wondering if anyone else is running into the same issue.
From all accounts and various reviews this phone is suppose to run fairly cool especially with the 8 Gen 2 chipsets. But it heats up just booting up (cpu hitting 70+ degrees) and will feel pretty warm to the touch.
Gaming wise, running Brawlstars, which shouldn't be a graphic intensive game, for prolongs periods of time (15 mins+) will cause the cpu to hit 80+ degrees and battery to 40+ with the phone getting visibly hot and starting to thermal throttle. Even before that kicks in, game will frequently experience bouts of fps drops from 100+ to 60 and this is with forced 120Hz turned on.
I've tried resetting the phone and going back to A06 build and still experience the same overheating problem. Tried various geekbench and wildlife benchmark and it is getting comparative scores as other reviews so the phone should be peforming up to par.
All this is coming from an OP8T with the nameless rom which runs the game super smooth and does not heat up crazily like the OP11. This makes it all the more frustrating as the newer phone with the newer chipset seems to perform worse across the board. In many ways it seems like OOS13 is just poorly optimized and a better kernel and OS will fix the problem.
Also tried the same game on S23U (same 8 Gen 2 chipset) and it ran as cool as a cucumber.
A quick google search does not net much overheating issues on the OP11 so I'm wondering if this is specific to my device.
Anyone suggestions as to how to alleviate the problem would be greatly appreciated.
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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80° cpu and 40° battery temp when you play
But let's ask how warm it is in your area (ask them because, for example, many people from India complain but do not take into account that it is sometimes 38-40c° warm in India, which means that the battery and cell phone in general are already very warm and thus much earlier the thermal engine throttles because there is not much air left)
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This is in LA, so around 50-70 F or 10-20C. CPU runs at fairly okay temperature around 30-40C for normal day to day use (texting, redditing...). It's just a stark contrast from my OP8T or S23U since I pretty much don't notice those phones heating up but with OP11 I can consistently feel it gets warm.
My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Vapor chambers can be defective straight from the factory. Just ask AMD 7900XTX owners dealing with the issue on their new $1K+ video cards.
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Vapor chamber is used to spread heat. It is not some magic material which makes heat disappear.
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My experience has been that this phone stays cool all the time no matter what I am doing.. Even Genshin maxed out.
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Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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verxolois said:
Thanks for sharing! I was able to get my hands on a second OP11, ran brawlstars on it and the phone heats up almost exactly the same way with similar temperature measurements. Maybe the game is just poorly optimized on OOS13.
Also tried transferring apps and data over and CPU hit over 70+ degrees as well. Looks like the temps im seeing is normal unless somehow I got my hands on back to back defective units.
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The best solution i can give u is to buy a peltier cooler i.e Oneplus 18W freezing point, Oneplus 11 has a very good passive cooling and with a good peltier you wont have such issues
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thanks for the solution but dont think i do enough serious gaming on the phone to warrant a cooler. Just a bit disappointed and surprised at the overheating and throttling despite oneplus touting it having one of the better cooling systems out there. Since it happened on both OP11 I got my hands on, I'm going to attribute this to more of a software than hardware issue as other phones with same chipsets don't seem to have overheating problems.