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I have researched and looked but can't seem to find a definitive answer. How does the Note 4 DE get updated to the next version of Android? For example, I order the Note 4 DE today with 4.4.4. What happens when 5.x.x comes out. How does that phone get the update. I have been told by Samsung that the wireless carrier is going to put out the update; however I know better than that as the boot loader will get locked. I have read were Samsung Kies is used to update also. I have read (on xda) that Samsung has and probably will never send out an update for a DE device. I am looking to keep the UDP with Verizon so I have to pay full price when getting a DE device or retail. Thanks.
If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
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So, OTA updates will not lock the boot loader on the Developer Edition Note 4. I was going to wait until 5.x.x came out for the note 4 so I could buy the note 4 DE with it already on it. That apparently is not necessary because the OTA updates will not lock the boot loader and the DE units will get 5.x.x when the retail one does through OTA... correct?
P.S - I am planning on tinkering around with Rom's once I get all the research done and know what I am doing. The last time I messed around with the phone was when I had the HTC Thunderbolt. Thanks for the quick reply.
Nemo Aeternamn said:
If your stock and locked with the de it'll come over the air, and because it's the developer edition it will not lock the phone. But if you unlock and run the custom roms you can update threw recovery with the custom software of your choosing.
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Where to start...first, there no such thing as "stock and locked" on a developer edition. It is unrooted, but the bootloader is unlocked out of the box. Secondly past developer edition phones did not get updates and even if one happened to appear, I would be very cautious about taking it as you definitely do not know that it "will not lock your phone". Developer edition phones were designed for developers and as such the expectation is that the user is knowledge and can handle tweaking and updating on their own. Do not expect an OTA update.
As for how the DE will get 5.0, that will be up to a creative developer somewhere to put out a ROM that can be flashed in custom recovery. Some work has been done on CM 12 so we shall see.
Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!
AMG32man said:
Thanks tfly212!!! That is exactly what I needed to know. I will be reading everything I can to get that knowledge. Thanks again!
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No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.
tfly212 said:
No worries. The dev edition is a great device. There are some good ROMs available on 4.4.4 and I'm sure there will be a 5.0 ROM at some point. I'm in no rush for 5.0... Not until Xposed is supported. I use a bunch of those modules and would miss them too much.
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i agree i need xposed right now. i missed xposed bad on my nexus 6. note on 4.4.4 with xposed is great for me right now
I'm about to buy the international version of LG G4. And wondering if anyone has had any success with installing Xposed with no issues.
Also would appreciate if anyone can please direct me for the most safe steps to root the G4
Thanks in advance :good:
i got bootloop with xposed.
there is good rooting guides if you look in g4 threads.
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Too bad :crying:
I'm kinda obsessed using xposed & GravityBox, extremely looking forward to get xposed work on LG G4
If anyone knows the trick, please keep us posted .. and I will .. :good:
From what I recall back when I was running GravityBox on my Nexus devices, it is only supported on Nexus and AOSP-based roms. Pretty sure even if we get Xposed working on the G4, you won't be able to use GravityBox on the stock LG ROM.
je55ter said:
From what I recall back when I was running GravityBox on my Nexus devices, it is only supported on Nexus and AOSP-based roms. Pretty sure even if we get Xposed working on the G4, you won't be able to use GravityBox on the stock LG ROM.
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Not sure if it would matter as far as this case goes, but I was able to run GravityBox on my Galaxy Note Edge (which was on a modified stock TW rom, so no AOSP-Base), Not sure why it would run on TW and not UX.....but then again, who knows....I guess the whole point is moot if we can not find a way to even get Xposed running in the first place.
masze said:
i got bootloop with xposed.
there is good rooting guides if you look in g4 threads.
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Thanks for your reply. I was reading almost all threads about rooting the G4, however, haven't yet found anything about rooting version H818. Please let me know if you have any idea about a successful rooting method for H818.
Thanks in advance ,, :good:
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Moe560 said:
Thanks for your reply. I was reading almost all threads about rooting the G4, however, haven't yet found anything about rooting version H818. Please let me know if you have any idea about a successful rooting method for H818.
Thanks in advance ,, :good:
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As you know, you must unlock your boot loader before you can root your G4. Mine is the international or EU model H815 unlocked and rooted back in May. Take heart. It is easy. Key points are: a visit to the LG support site. Then can make your way to the Developer section and register to receive the bootloader unlock code. LG will try three times to dissuade you but will in the end email you the code. Once done the process is "irreversible" and will always show bootloader ulocked (on the boot screen). LG say they have listened to customers (a dig at Sammy and the i-sheep) and have started to roll out the unlock code globally. Yours may be listed already, if not it soon will be. It's been a month now so register / monitor the site. Once you unlock, you'll find step by step method of rooting your G4 here on xda. I posted one myself but thread was closed as there is one there already. Your next query will probably be a lean deodexed ROM or to install Xposed. Sadly, no news on either of those for the G4. Hopefully a bright spark will crack those soon.
Farrys said:
As you know, you must unlock your boot loader before you can root your G4. Mine is the international or EU model H815 unlocked and rooted back in May. Take heart. It is easy. Key points are: a visit to the LG support site. Then can make your way to the Developer section and register to receive the bootloader unlock code. LG will try three times to dissuade you but will in the end email you the code. Once done the process is "irreversible" and will always show bootloader ulocked (on the boot screen). LG say they have listened to customers (a dig at Sammy and the i-sheep) and have started to roll out the unlock code globally. Yours may be listed already, if not it soon will be. It's been a month now so register / monitor the site. Once you unlock, you'll find step by step method of rooting your G4 here on xda. I posted one myself but thread was closed as there is one there already. Your next query will probably be a lean deodexed ROM or to install Xposed. Sadly, no news on either of those for the G4. Hopefully a bright spark will crack those soon.
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Thanks for the reply @Farrys still only H815 eu is supported for unlocking http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryTypeCode=ANRS
We'll wait ..
Farrys said:
As you know, you must unlock your boot loader before you can root your G4. Mine is the international or EU model H815 unlocked and rooted back in May. Take heart. It is easy. Key points are: a visit to the LG support site. Then can make your way to the Developer section and register to receive the bootloader unlock code. LG will try three times to dissuade you but will in the end email you the code. Once done the process is "irreversible" and will always show bootloader ulocked (on the boot screen). LG say they have listened to customers (a dig at Sammy and the i-sheep) and have started to roll out the unlock code globally. Yours may be listed already, if not it soon will be. It's been a month now so register / monitor the site. Once you unlock, you'll find step by step method of rooting your G4 here on xda. I posted one myself but thread was closed as there is one there already. Your next query will probably be a lean deodexed ROM or to install Xposed. Sadly, no news on either of those for the G4. Hopefully a bright spark will crack those soon.
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That's not accurate, you don't need to unlock the bootloader to root the device. There is root available for most variants in the dev section and none of them save the 815EU and H811 (TMo) variant have an unlocked bootloader available. The H815 you have to get unlocked via the LG support site as you mentioned and the H811 is unlocked by default from TMo.
je55ter said:
From what I recall back when I was running GravityBox on my Nexus devices, it is only supported on Nexus and AOSP-based roms. Pretty sure even if we get Xposed working on the G4, you won't be able to use GravityBox on the stock LG ROM.
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On the G3 we had a module called G3 Tweaksbox which did a lot of the same things as GravityBox, and more, specifically designed for the G3. We can hope the same happens with the G4!
Long live XPOSED and G3 (G4) Tweaksbox!
I realize that the USC version really isn't in anyone's Todo list, but was wondering if anyone has been making any effort to find a workaround for either an unofficial bootloader unlock or prerooted system image that would work in the us991 variant? Best outcome would be an unlock allowing TWRP and custom ROM use, or at least root and Xposed usage on the stock MM. Any responses would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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I realize that the USC version really isn't in anyone's Todo list, but was wondering if anyone has been making any effort to find a workaround for either an unofficial bootloader unlock or prerooted system image that would work in the us991 variant? Best outcome would be an unlock allowing TWRP and custom ROM use, or at least root and Xposed usage on the stock MM. Any responses would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Check out steadfasterX's thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/bl-unlock-unlock-bootloader-proof-t3648288
Refer to his latest updates on the project on the last pages of the thread. It is coming ... !!!
sdembiske said:
Check out steadfasterX's thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/bl-unlock-unlock-bootloader-proof-t3648288
Refer to his latest updates on the project on the last pages of the thread. It is coming ... !!!
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I surely hope so..I love my g4. I brought it over to TMO, and have no issues other than having to buy a new battery as original was falling after almost 4 years of service. I've honestly not feeling the need for a new phone, it's fast has decent storage, a gorgeous screen and the design makes it easy to hold even with it's screen size. My only worry is I've been following his posts and they are all focused on the other unlockable versions with nary a mention of my poor us991 lol
Max Weinbach posted on https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-note8-bootloader-odin/ that Samsung 8/8+/Note 8 January update come with a new bootloader that
1) can not downgrade your phone after installing this
2) block Prince Comsy’s modded Odin.
Max wrote one consequence is: "Note8 owners with the carrier Note8 devices cannot flash the US unlocked firmware. If you try to flash the carrier unlocked firmware on carrier phone, it will hard brick your phone". But later make this correction as an EDIT: After being tested by XDA Senior member me2151, it turns out cross region flashing does work. Prince Comsy Odin is working, but we can not test if the factory binary flashing will hard brick your phone. So flashing US unlocked onto a US carrier device should work.
I will like to buy a Note 8 and what I want to do is have 2 (or more) ROM (OS) and be able to multi boot. I have 4 questions regarding this. With the January update can I use multi boot ROM (MultiROM, DualBootPatcher, or any other) on:
1) The Unlock International Version (install the T-mobile ROM and other ROMs)?
2) The Unlock US Version (install the T-mobile ROM and other ROMs)?
3) The T-Mobile (Snapdragon) version (Install US unlock version ROM and other ROMs)? As far said here: https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-update-805328/ the T-mobile Janaury update is not out yet for T-Mobile, so a T-Moile Note 8 is not supposed to be affected by it.
The 4th questions is: Lets said I have T-Mobile Note 8, Im succesfull installing a multi boot, I have 3 ROMs simulstaniously. ROM 1 is the T-Mobile ROM that came with the phone, ROM 2 is Unlock US Note 8 ROM and ROM 3 FireFox OS. Everything work fine. Then After that, came out the “January” update for T-Mobile and I installed (because I need to be protected by the vulnerabities if fix). But the update change the bootloader. The question is> Will I be able to multi boot the 3 ROMs, like was doing before instaling the update? Or the 2 non carrier ROMs will be affected by the boot loader change made by the update, and the T-mobile phone will only able to boot to the original T-Mobile ROM that came with the phone? Or when the update change the boot loader will mess (probably brick) the whoe phone not letting me to boot what ever ROM it have (the T-Mobile and and the other 2 ROMs)
I'm sorry not meaning to sound rude but I almost fell asleep midway through reading your post... 1st of all from what I gathered your buying a international note 8? And then want to flash multiboot which I personally only used when running touchwiz Rom and say a ASOP Rom if you will... but you need to keep in mind that your not gonna find too many roms over here on the snapdragon devices. I will tell you if you want to utilize multiboot then don't buy a Samsung. I used multiboot on my LGv20 having stock rooted as my daily and Lineage as my 2nd.
SICKMADE said:
I'm sorry not meaning to sound rude but I almost fell asleep midway through reading your post... 1st of all from what I gathered your buying a international note 8? And then want to flash multiboot which I personally only used when running touchwiz Rom and say a ASOP Rom if you will... but you need to keep in mind that your not gonna find too many roms over here on the snapdragon devices. I will tell you if you want to utilize multiboot then don't buy a Samsung. I used multiboot on my LGv20 having stock rooted as my daily and Lineage as my 2nd.
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I was told that Snapdragon Note 8 (US unlock and US carrier) does not have unlocked boot loader, therefore is impossible to multiboot.
The question is if the Exynos model could be used to multiboot?
The #1 reason I decided against the international model was issues with Carrier Aggregation I even asked the question in this forum and the international forum about if any fix had been found...I just wasn't willing to shell out that kind of money and not have the phone work properly switching between towers. I went with a US unlocked version...should be here Thursday.
in regards to multi-boot...I believe that would be processor dependent (someone please correct me if I am wrong.) and thus you would need to inquire in the international forum if there is a multi-boot for the exynos chipsets.
so ive been searching the past week on this im looking to see if its possible to root my new fold3 my model number is SM-F926U1 and my build number is SP1A.210812.016.F926U1UEU1CVC5.
if someone could please point me in the right direction. i would greatly appreciate it. as there are certain apps i use that require root,
That's unlocked USA model and not rootable at this time.
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That's unlocked USA model and not rootable at this time.
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Is there any work being done to try and root it or is it locked never happening
Don't see it happening. The days of unlocked bootloaders, TWRP and even simple root seem to be over for the unlocked USA snapdragon versions. I can live with that but no esim on the 'ultra flagship' device is simply unacceptable, IMO.
If you go back and read the posts about rooting, you will find the all but 1 or 2 models can be unlocked. the US Unlocked is not rootable. Make sure you read through the posts, you can usually find the answer in the threads.
I appreciate the responses. So let's say I was willing g to sell this one to buy one that can be rooted. Which model am I looking for? I just use a prepaid phone service. But like being able to jump from one service to another.
That is also listed on the forum thread titles.
SM-F926B
Thank you
Isn't there a paid service that unlocks the US bootloader?
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Isn't there a paid service that unlocks the US bootloader?
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Would you trust someone else or a company to use unknown software on your device then install and log in to all of your stuff not knowing if they installed anything malicious?
What about model SM-F926U? rootable or not?
As stated here and in other threads, there is no root for the U/U1. Doing so has negative effects to the ROM, such as disabling the camera.
IF there was/is a successful Root process, the community will blow up with threads explaining how.
So the following link below is wrong:
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models) - SamsungSFour.Com
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models)
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ycats said:
So the following link below is wrong:
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models) - SamsungSFour.Com
How To Root Samsung Galaxy Z Fold3 5G? (All Models)
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Try it out ! and tell us back
Checkout if you have the OEM option (@ developer options) to enable it ..
That is the first step to unlock the bootloader
Not seeing that OEM option in Developer options.............so I'm not willing to try it out, don't want to brick the device.
ycats said:
Not seeing that OEM option in Developer options.............so I'm not willing to try it out, don't want to brick the device.
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If you don't have the oem option in your developer options your device can't be rooted.
ycats said:
Not seeing that OEM option in Developer options.............so I'm not willing to try it out, don't want to brick the device.
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Exactly !!!
Because you can't unlock the bootloader as said before , no OEM option = no unlock
So that link is wrong unfortunately
Yes, any post that says they can root the Fold 3 U/U1 is wrong. You will have consequences like losing camera and such.
Yes, it is wrong. This has been explored at length. I'm sorry it isn't a reality, but that's where we are.
appreciate the feedback..................back in the day with Windows Mobile OS phones, I would flash custom roms all the time, then the same with android HTC devices......................but haven't tried rooting since the Note-8.
ycats said:
appreciate the feedback..................back in the day with Windows Mobile OS phones, I would flash custom roms all the time, then the same with android HTC devices......................but haven't tried rooting since the Note-8.
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Root for me =
Viper4Android ( main reason to be rooted )
Swift Backup ( to backup/restore DATA , to/from device or Cloud ) ( second reason to be rooted )
AdAway
Samsung App Lock
Root Explorer
Galaxy Max Hz
AndroidZip Pro
#Hex
Some other magisk modules
Those are my main apps /magisk modules that requieres to be rooted