TouchWiz - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 4

I'm not no phone expert but why would Samsung have a different Touchwiz UI for all their phones. Can't us note 4 uses get the same as the note 5? Like the camera shortcut would be nice to have.

If the note 5 had no features that the note 4 didn't have and was only better in benchmarks and camera and possibly battery depending on samsung's optimization (even though they alienated a fair amount of customers by removing the removeable battery), no one who owned a note 4 or maybe even a note 3 would upgrade. All they would get would be a speed boost and many might not even need that. Many custom roms will give your phone the features of newer touchwiz phones. These aren't official from samsung though.

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This phone or the Galaxy S3?

It wont be long and my upgrade be here. So I was wondering if I should get this or the s3. I like this one and the fact that is a quad-core and samsung have the same build hardware on all of the note 2. But I also like all the gestures features from the s3
The note 2 has all the features of the s3 plus more. You cant go wrong with it
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I know I went to see the phone at the store it huge! I didnt know it have all the gestures features like the s3 because they were never announced. Like automatic calling somebody from text by just put your phone in the ear, Smartview. Screenshot by swiping your hand on the screen, etc etc. Those features really caught my eye. but wasnt sure if the note 2 have them. I guess I'll go with the note 2. Thanks guys
gypsy214 said:
I know I went to see the phone at the store it huge! I didnt know it have all the gestures features like the s3 because they were never announced. Like automatic calling somebody from text by just put your phone in the ear, Smartview. Screenshot by swiping your hand on the screen, etc etc. Those features really caught my eye. but wasnt sure if the note 2 have them. I guess I'll go with the note 2. Thanks guys
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Ill tell you what. after using it my s3 feels tiny . almost iphone 4 tiny ........ Btw get the note Trust me i have both
I hate to stir the pot, and I know that it hasnt been talked about yet, but if your upgrade is not here yet and u have some time to wait I would wait for the Galaxy S 4. Now wait! Let me explain! I am currently the very proud owner of the Note 2 with T mobile. This is the best phone on the market, with all of the great Hardware with excellent software to match. I mean the innovation and true attention to detail is unmatched. But I have read some rumors, yeah rumors, that the S4 will be a beast also in a smaller form. I love the huge screen of the Note 2, but you are trying to choose between the Note 2 and S3 so I take that to mean that you are on the fence and the extra screen size really isn't that important. Maybe the power is what u are seeking. Word on the street is that the S4 will bring in new tech, edge to edge screen, quad core, 1080p screen, 2gb ram, new software features, and new design. These things are not outside of the realm of reality and as we can all see Samsung is on a roll. I think this year they found their groove, and they can only get better from here. They are suppossed to announce this sometime end of January and into February. I say all this to say, if u are thinking Note 2 vs. S3. Don't do it as the S3 is so last year. The note 2 is basically the precursor to what we can expect for 2013. Think more like Note 2 vs. S4
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Also not that its much different but the S3 will NOT be getting LTE on tmobile from what I've heard and the Note will get LTE. Now as far as the Nexus 4, the biggest issue is that it's made by LG Booooo!
Sold my s3 for this phone. No regrets.
From the Best: Note 2
Yeah that is a dissapointed for me too Nexus 4 from LG gosh. I had the G2X and LG support sucks. Really guys I am a little nervous I have the S2 but it have a lot of problems with the noise reduction where other people hears an echo. And if you flash aosp rom or miui they say you sound like underwater and there is not a fix really. I really like how samsung did with their TW but I dont want another samsung and is going to have the same problem as my s2 with call quality. But The s3 and the note2 are really good phones!! The S4 announced in Jan or Feb? The s2 and s3 were announced late of year. I think its too soon for them to release the S4 and by the time i think it will I will have another upgrade lol. The big screen doesnt bother me. When I got my S2 it was big and at first it was wow. But then if I play with another phone like the Amaze It feels weird because of all the small icons. lol
gypsy214 said:
It wont be long and my upgrade be here. So I was wondering if I should get this or the s3. I like this one and the fact that is a quad-core and samsung have the same build hardware on all of the note 2. But I also like all the gestures features from the s3
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The Note 2 is a different level then the S3, has all the same features and more, and has a much better processor then the S3. It's just about whether the screen size is too big for you.
And I wouldn't worry about waiting for the S4 or Note 3. The S4 might be announced at MWC but I don't think that will happen so soon and the Note won't have a sequel till at least Oct-Nov of next year. Then it'll take at least 2-4 months before the first US carriers get them. So the Note 2 will be king of the hill for quite some time, barring HTC's Dlx when it comes out.
noted for future reference on my Note 2
Either you have been living under a rock, or... who knows. This video will answer your questions, and pretty much make up your mind for you. It's long, but thorough.
Colfustion's Review of the Samsung Galaxy Note 2
And to the bloke who recommended waiting for the S 4... just stop. Recommending non existent hardware just makes you sound silly. It will have a processor similar to the Note 2, a smaller screen, no S-Pen... etc. Not a very good comparison.
I've got both.. and honestly can't make a decision - have to sell one - need the cash.
GOing back to the S3 from the Note, it feels positively TINY...
but, the Note really does feel big; and I've got pretty big hands... whether its too big or not, I guess its partly personal choice and partly ease of use - I don't think I can honestly say that the Note 2 is always easy to operate with a single hand -
Also, to be honest, the alternate rom scene, at least for the T-Mobile Note 2, is pretty limited - I'm not sure if there'll be any "original" android development for it as I guess to make use of the S-pen etc, a vanilla android rom just wouldn't have the features (I'm only guessing here). Most of the rom development would be those "de-bloated/de-odexed/zip aligned" versions of stock TouchWiz rom which claim to mysteriously give longer battery life. I'm currently on the Jedi Rom on my Note 2 and not really sure how different it is to the stock rom.
On my S3, I've got Task's Rom, and it truly made a huge difference to the battery life - to the point I'm comfortable returning to the standard Samsung battery form the extended Hyperion 4200 mAH one I had bough due to the horrible battery life the S3 has (on cellular internet) when on the stock rom - with Task's rom, there is a marked, appreciable improvement in battery life.
Right, coming back, I still can't figure out which one to keep and which one to sell - I'm pretty sure, whichever decision I take, I'll regret it cos both the S3 and Note 2 are really and truly excellent products!!!.
RizSher said:
I've got both.. and honestly can't make a decision - have to sell one - need the cash.
GOing back to the S3 from the Note, it feels positively TINY...
but, the Note really does feel too big. and I've got pretty big hands.
Also, to be honest, the alternate rom scene, at least for the T-Mobile Note 2, is pretty limited - I'm not sure if there'll be any "original" android development for it as I guess to make use of the S-pen etc, a vanilla android rom just wouldn't have the features (I'm only guessing here). Most of the rom development would be those "de-bloated/de-odexed/zip aligned" versions of stock TouchWiz rom which claim to mysteriously give longer battery life. I'm currently on the Jedi Rom on my Note 2 and not really sure how different it is to the stock rom.
On my S3, I've got Task's Rom, and it truly made a huge difference to the battery life - to the point I'm comfortable returning to the standard Samsung battery form the extended Hyperion 4200 mAH battery I had bough due to the horrible battery life the S3 has (on cellular internet) - with Task's rom, there is a marked, appreciable improvement in battery life.
Right, coming back, I still can't figure out which one to keep and which one to sell - I'm pretty sure, whichever decision I take, I'll regret it cos both the S3 and Note 2 are really and truly excellent products!!!.
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The phone has been out for less than a month in the US. I think the ROMs will come, in time. Plus, the battery in the Note 2 is amazing... ever try running the battery down to 5% on purpose? It's actually harder than I thought it would be! That's the beauty of the Note 2; the battery is big enough, by itself, that minimal changes are needed to constantly see 24+ hours on one charge. I have had both the S3 and now the Note 2, and I would never recommend an S3 over the Note. The S-Pen alone is > any wizbang S3 thing out there!
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The phone has been out for less than a month in the US. I think the ROMs will come, in time. Plus, the battery in the Note 2 is amazing... ever try running the battery down to 5% on purpose? It's actually harder than I thought it would be! That's the beauty of the Note 2; the battery is big enough, by itself, that minimal changes are needed to constantly see 24+ hours on one charge. I have had both the S3 and now the Note 2, and I would never recommend an S3 over the Note. The S-Pen alone is > any wizbang S3 thing out there!
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I wasn't making a point about the Note's battery life - it really is pretty good - what I waas trying to say was, the S3 alternate ROM scene is very vibrant; the particular ROM I've got currently make a noticeable diff. in battery life; based on my guess work I'm not very sure if the same would happen for the Note.
Seems like all of the Note 2 series including the international one are the same hardware. Why not make it a worldwide phone with a universal radio. or Like on my Sensation? I may be wrong but in any case do like the tmobile version of the s2 and the skyrocket which are very similar phones
gypsy214 said:
It wont be long and my upgrade be here. So I was wondering if I should get this or the s3. I like this one and the fact that is a quad-core and samsung have the same build hardware on all of the note 2. But I also like all the gestures features from the s3
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The note 2 can do anything the S3 can but better.. and bigger.. and with a stylus

Is note II worth the upgrade??

I have seen many people saying that note 2 is not a good upgrade.
well here is what i see!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_P7aBWeJjo
Depends on what you want to use the device for! Its got to be worth the upgrade.... 1.6 quadcore and 2gb of ram!
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For me that's a completely pointless comparison.
You can't consider Note 2 an upgrade over S3 because they're completely different devices. Note 2 is an upgrade for Note 1 users, and S3 is an upgrade for S2 users.
If you want to jump from S3 to Note for bigger screen - then in this particular aspect it will be an upgrade, but only because you actually switch between market segments.
If you don't care about bigger screen, s-pen support and 3100mah battery - then the 1 extra gig of ram is not really worth replacing your device for. And CPU is basically the same.
If you want big screen, s-pen and great battery life for your media pleasure - then yes, Note 2 - or simply switching from smartphone to 'phablet' segment will be an upgrade solely because of its screen.
Once you go phablet, you won’t go back
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Once you get used to the size it becomes normal and regular phones become just too small. My gf S3 feels small to me now.
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Akiainavas said:
For me that's a completely pointless comparison.
You can't consider Note 2 an upgrade over S3 because they're completely different devices. Note 2 is an upgrade for Note 1 users, and S3 is an upgrade for S2 users.
If you want to jump from S3 to Note for bigger screen - then in this particular aspect it will be an upgrade, but only because you actually switch between market segments.
If you don't care about bigger screen, s-pen support and 3100mah battery - then the 1 extra gig of ram is not really worth replacing your device for. And CPU is basically the same.
If you want big screen, s-pen and great battery life for your media pleasure - then yes, Note 2 - or simply switching from smartphone to 'phablet' segment will be an upgrade solely because of its screen.
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I completely agree. My partner has the S3 and I love the S3. I have the Note 2 and I love the Note 2. The S3 is perfect for him, and the Note 2 is perfect for me!
I REALLY like the 2GB of Ram. The screen is nice, while the same resolution as the S3. So WHILE most people LOVE the display on the Note 2, the S3 has more PPI which some people say makes it better, while others say it doesn't. It's a matter of opinion. I love my note 2 and its display.
Is the Note 2 an upgrade over the S3? No. Only because they're DIFFERENT devices! They're for different people. My partner sees the Note 2 and says "Wow I want it!" but then says he can't use it as easily with one hand, can't take it with him to work out (I only run, so it's easy in the pocket). I like big text and large areas to read on, and the Note 2 gives that to me! It's all about personal preference. The Note 2 and S3 are VERY similar in hardware. VERY VERY similar.
A huge improvement over the note 1. The additional ram more than doubles what the note1 had as you only had 700mb left after android. Compare to 1.7 after android on note 2. Just for that reason it's a good upgrade. The CPU quad v dual, upgraded vid and screen, led notification and physical home button also are great upgrades.
Akiainavas said:
For me that's a completely pointless comparison.
You can't consider Note 2 an upgrade over S3 because they're completely different devices. Note 2 is an upgrade for Note 1 users, and S3 is an upgrade for S2 users.
If you want to jump from S3 to Note for bigger screen - then in this particular aspect it will be an upgrade, but only because you actually switch between market segments.
If you don't care about bigger screen, s-pen support and 3100mah battery - then the 1 extra gig of ram is not really worth replacing your device for. And CPU is basically the same.
If you want big screen, s-pen and great battery life for your media pleasure - then yes, Note 2 - or simply switching from smartphone to 'phablet' segment will be an upgrade solely because of its screen.
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Agreed!
Those two are phones that are in different leagues.

[Q] Should I upgrade to Note 2 from my Note 1

Was just curious if people are *that* much more happy with their Note 2 over their previous Note 1's. Not sure about an upgrade. I feel like my Note 1 was an experiment and they got the kinks worked out on the Note 2. I've played with the Note 2 at the store and liked it *most* of the time. Actually, Tmobile's demo seemed in better shape than AT&T's demo, but I have to stick to AT&T. I'm running Cm10 so I can have Android 4.1 and then load the 4.2 camera, clock, and keyboard.
If you're *lots* happier with your Note 2, I'd like to know why. Are the Samsung software upgrades (e.g. multiview) really useful or gimicky? I don't miss Samsung's snote now but still use a writing app (write) on my Note 1.
Also, I'm very weary of not getting those Android OS upgrades timely. Was almost thinking of going to Nexus 4 but would miss the stylus and screen size too much I think.
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Was just curious if people are *that* much more happy with their Note 2 over their previous Note 1's. Not sure about an upgrade. I feel like my Note 1 was an experiment and they got the kinks worked out on the Note 2. I've played with the Note 2 at the store and liked it *most* of the time. Actually, Tmobile's demo seemed in better shape than AT&T's demo, but I have to stick to AT&T. I'm running Cm10 so I can have Android 4.1 and then load the 4.2 camera, clock, and keyboard.
If you're *lots* happier with your Note 2, I'd like to know why. Are the Samsung software upgrades (e.g. multiview) really useful or gimicky? I don't miss Samsung's snote now but still use a writing app (write) on my Note 1.
Also, I'm very weary of not getting those Android OS upgrades timely. Was almost thinking of going to Nexus 4 but would miss the stylus and screen size too much I think.
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I would say if you dont use the SPEN like for everything its not worth it. I must say the screen on the NOTE 2 is better than the NOTE 1. But I am pretty anal about my screens. Speed wise Ive used my friends NOTE 1 thats MODDED also with custom roms. Not sure which one he is using but it was pretty fluid.
But this phone is one of the best phones Ive ever used. I get about a 22-24 hours without charging. I am a heavy user. Games, text, a sh**ton of emailing.
Dthere are many advantages over the note 1 Firstly being battery life. This monster has a real battery for the device size and use. Also the spen is so much more refined that you'll actually use it. The processor removes the need to mod and oc. All in all the note 2 is a far superior device.
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Thanks for the comments so far.
Battery life isn't a big issue because I have two spare batteries for my Note 1, although it would be nice NOT to have to change batteries in a single day. My Note 1's back cover hardly stays on anymore because of taking it off to change batteries so often.
I like the form factor better on the Note 2. Seems like Samsung figured out that they could still have a large screen but make it narrower and taller than the Note 1.
I started playing with some floating apps on my Note 1. Makes me think multi-view would be useful on the Note 2. But multi-view only works with certain apps, right? Kind of limits its usefulness for sure. (And, yes, I know the Note 1 *might* get multi-view in an update, but I simply can't imagine it working anywhere near as well as it does on the better HW equipped Note 2).
What apps does multiview not work in? Thus far I've added every app that I've wanted on there.
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Thanks for the comments so far.
Battery life isn't a big issue because I have two spare batteries for my Note 1, although it would be nice NOT to have to change batteries in a single day. My Note 1's back cover hardly stays on anymore because of taking it off to change batteries so often.
I like the form factor better on the Note 2. Seems like Samsung figured out that they could still have a large screen but make it narrower and taller than the Note 1.
I started playing with some floating apps on my Note 1. Makes me think multi-view would be useful on the Note 2. But multi-view only works with certain apps, right? Kind of limits its usefulness for sure. (And, yes, I know the Note 1 *might* get multi-view in an update, but I simply can't imagine it working anywhere near as well as it does on the better HW equipped Note 2).
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Well those note 1 batteries won't fit the note 2 so you'd have to buy 2 more for the note 2,which you won't need.
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I also came from the N1 and you are correct, the form factor of the N2 is nicer.
However, if you are a fan of Cm10 then that makes a switch questionable imho. Why? I happen to enjoy the s-pen apps, floating pop-up windows, and multi-windows etc that you loose using CM10
I rooted and am using one of the de-bloated stock based roms which allow me to add some other apps to multi-windows and tethering.
BUT, the nice thing about the N2 is you really don't need to root if you don't want to mess with it. The N2 runs solid and many preinstalled apps can be deactivated in the app manager.
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I also came from the N1 and you are correct, the form factor of the N2 is nicer.
However, if you are a fan of Cm10 then that makes a switch questionable imho. Why? I happen to enjoy the s-pen apps, floating pop-up windows, and multi-windows etc that you loose using CM10
I rooted and am using one of the de-bloated stock based roms which allow me to add some other apps to multi-windows and tethering.
BUT, the nice thing about the N2 is you really don't need to root if you don't want to mess with it. The N2 runs solid and many preinstalled apps can be deactivated in the app manager.
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Thanks. You hit on my very next questions about rooting/custom roms. I'd usually prefer not to root at all, but there are a couple of apps that I am a fan of that require root (like tasker and GMD gestures). And I'd definitely like tethering ability. Sounds like you have a setup that's exactly like I prefer. I've used custom ROMs but never used de-bloated stock based roms. Sounds exactly like what I would want on the N2 if I got it.
So are there stock based ROMs that include all the Samsung apps and spen features, e.g. snote, etc?
yes there are

What phones out now are comparable to the Note 4?

I have a 32GB Note 4 and I'm bored with it. Looking to see if I can throw it on that website and swap with someone. Just want to know what phone is comparable to this Note 4.
- Doesn't need to have a pen as I barely use mines.
- Doesn't have to be the same size either but definitely over 4''.
- Not Apple.
- Must be rootable.
I know some of you guys on here have multiple phones or have used a couple in testing. Just want something that is fast and has good speakers as well as a nice display.
I got a nexus 6 camera sucks and I miss the features that note 4 has but until root my nexus 6 is my daily and my note 4 is in the desk drawer
Might look at getting a Nexus.
Look for nexus devices, other devices won't get android updates after a while.
I have note 4, i really like it especially s-pen feature but android updates are problem even for this flagship device.
Also there are not cyanogenmod based custom roms because of exynos chipset.

Thinking about the switch to the S5

The abundance of Roms and customization on the s5 is really attracting me. Thinking about buying an S5 so I have a toy to play with again. From those of you who have owned an S5, do you think I'll be disappointed going backwards from the note 4?
I have been considering doing the same thing for about a month now. My wife has an s5 and I really like it but I've become so used to the screen real estate of the note series. I've had a note to note 3 and note 4 & I have a note 10.1 2014!
rsb321 said:
I have been considering doing the same thing for about a month now. My wife has an s5 and I really like it but I've become so used to the screen real estate of the note series. I've had a note to note 3 and note 4 & I have a note 10.1 2014!
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That's the biggest thing that is keeping me away from the s5. Do you notice any performance differences with the smaller processor and less ram?
I think the S5 is underestimated and overly criticized. It's really an effective and neat package in a reasonable size. The last S device with MicroSD and removable battery.
Really I think it feels faster than my note 4. COULD BE THAT IT'S ROOTED WITH A CUSTOM ROM!!! And yes I agree it is actually a pretty good for factor all the way around. Might would consider a 128gb s6 though !

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