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Hi
This might be a stupid question, but anyways:
I bought me a HTC Desire yesterday and im very happy with it.
Now i installed the Advanced Task Killer as i heard its a good app.
Now, every time i open something, like the SNESoid Player, or even my SMS(Messages), and the close it by pressing the Home or back button, i see afterwards in the Task Killer that its still running!?
So, how do i "close" an application, or is this just normal? It's pretty weird to me.
Thanks
This is one of the most asked and answered questions. Search and you shall find.
You probably used a WM device before Android I can imagine. Android OS handles all that stuff automatically, you shouldn't worry about apps not closing because when an app isn't used it isn't using either memory or CPU. When a new application opens and needs memory, the one(s) still running will close and give space for the new one.
As "ArtieQ" said it's not recommended to use a task killer.
But if you really need to stop a program you can use your native task manager, from "settings">applications>manage applications - then when the list of applications loads, you can press menu button and choose "filter" and then "running". Now when you choose an application from the list, it will show you information for it and an option to "force stop" it, that is to close it.
Thanks alot!
Well, i used a crappy iPhone 3G before..no multitasking you know
I was looking for an answer to this question and find something here but I am still a little bit confused : many applications that I have tested dont close if I press the home or the back button and they don't have any "quit" or "exit" command or menu entry. I was facing some battery issues with all these apps in the background. It's true that uninstalling some of them and force closing others in the app manager solved the issue but it is really not confortable to go in the app manager every time after using the phone to close the apps and save battery. I am wondering if an auto-close application exist in the market...
Advanced task manager has an autokill function within It's settings. It also has a desktop widget that you can press to kill apps when you want. You will probably want to add some of your apps to the ignore list though so notifications etc still work ok
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hans moleman said:
Advanced task manager has an autokill function within It's settings. It also has a desktop widget that you can press to kill apps when you want. You will probably want to add some of your apps to the ignore list though so notifications etc still work ok
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I remember that installed somthing like advanced task manager and it ended up by eating my battery charge cause it was running all the time. I'll test this and report back.
Thanks for the tip
Instead of using a task manager/killer consider using 'autostarts' which is an app (paid) which allows you to stop apps starting automatically.
For example, maps gets started when you do almost anything and once started really eats your battery.
I've been using autostarts for a while now and would definitely recommended it for battery saving.
thanks for this tip iain2510
Hey guys whats up?
i have many apps on my phone that never seem to stop. i kill them all but they come back again. its killing the ram on my defy.
any solution?
thanks
What you need is the autostarts app. Get it from market.
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Don't bother. Android will kill them if you ever need memory
Got a Headache? It's all in your Head.
it's fine. That's how android works. it keeps app in memory and kill them when needed.
so dont worry
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
popcorn1122 said:
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
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If u have many apps running, then kill the apps ...some apps don't restart...it helps reduce the lagging....if there are only few apps running then don't bother...if u use task killers excessively then ur battery will surely get drained
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popcorn1122 said:
so its better not to install apps like Advance Task killer or autostarts apps?
Is it ok to leave it on and let android decide when to kill it? Because if I leave them on, they eat by RAM & battery very fast.
Also leaving it on makes the phone laggy...
Pls guide...
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Normally you shouldn't have to use an application such as "Advanced Task Killer". Android is unix based so it should handle pretty good with apps that are "not doing anything but running in the background".
What you can do is try to exit some apps properly (not just pressing the back button) by going to the menu and actually clicking on the "Quit" if it's available.
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Whookid
So me and my buddy both have a Gnex...
I tend to not really use the task button on the nav bar too much to swipe away tasks.
My buddy on the other hand likes to kill apps off EVERY SINGLE TIME he leaves an app. And i mean EVERY time, as soon as he leaves it he swipes its ass.
I think thats a bit much.
Ive always been under the impression that any kind of task killer can do more harm than good, as it slows things down when you reopen an app as it has to load it from scratch again.
My friend argues that your supposed to do it because thats the the button and feature is there for.
I would have thought that it was just there for in case you want to manually free up ram for what ever reason, or quickly jump between apps.
So whos doing the right thing and whos doing the wrong?
there is no right or wrong for this.. its all personal preference
i usually just keep it there until i kno i have reach like 10+ apps, then i just swipe them away cuz i dont want my list to be that long...
but when u say close every app every time.. i only do that when i kno it keeps running in the background sucking my cpu and battery ex. Facebook app
then i will swipe away every time i dont need it, while others i just keep it there
"task manager" its not a good definition for what it does
in real its show u the list of the last used apps and when u swipe away an app, u ONLY remove it from that list...it doesn't ( correctly ) kill anything
the real important thing, is that when u want exit from an app then press the back button to leave the app...the home button instead leave the app "running" in its state
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"task manager" its not a good definition for what it does
in real its show u the list of the last used apps and when u swipe away an app, u ONLY remove it from that list...it doesn't ( correctly ) kill anything
the real important thing, is that when u want exit from an app then press the back button to leave the app...the home button instead leave the app "running" in its state
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swiping away from multi-tasking UI DOES kill the app.. or u can say kill the activity, but if the app has a process, it will still be there.
but it definitely kill the app activity
From a simple test it doesn't kill any app for me.. try checking the apps running with quick system info or a similar app
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andQlimax said:
From a simple test it doesn't kill any app for me.. try checking the apps running with quick system info or a similar app
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its been discussed in here xda (try the search button), AND from google android developer (her g+ post)
IT DOES KILL believe it or not
its purely personal preference when it comes to swiping away the tiles/icons/whatever, but he needs to realize that all he's doing is slowing down the resume/relaunch times of his apps, not to mention wasting minutes of his day swiping them away for (effectively) no reason. He's not going to see increased performance or battery life from constantly OCD closing the apps.
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its purely personal preference when it comes to swiping away the tiles/icons/whatever, but he needs to realize that all he's doing is slowing down the resume/relaunch times of his apps, not to mention wasting minutes of his day swiping them away for (effectively) no reason. He's not going to see increased performance or battery life from constantly OCD closing the apps.
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That...
And if there is an obnoxious app that he's killing...one that auto-starts itself again...
It'll waste battery as it restarts.
(These obnoxious apps should be avoided anyway, obviously.)
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its been discussed in here xda (try the search button), AND from google android developer (her g+ post)
IT DOES KILL believe it or not
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it does not kill
u must use the search
its a list of recent used apps..u can remove apps from that list..not killing anything..and this is how should work
andQlimax said:
it does not kill
u must use the search
its a list of recent used apps..u can remove apps from that list..not killing anything..and this is how should work
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lol whatever u say. i bet u didnt do any search
king23adrianc said:
lol whatever u say. i bet u didnt do any search
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we can go on forever, but im sure about what im talking about..u are disinformed
are we talking of the same thing? pressing the ics built in multitasking button (on a stock rom) doesn't allow u to kill apps, only to remove it from that list
u can test it urslef in lot of way..also im not sure if u are trolling, but anyone here can confirm what im saying
i'm not going to reply again in this post
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we can go on forever, but im sure about what im talking about..u are disinformed
are we talking of the same thing? pressing the ics built in multitasking button (on a stock rom) doesn't allow u to kill apps, only to remove it from that list
u can test it urslef in lot of way..also im not sure if u are trolling, but anyone here can confirm what im saying
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seems like ur trolling more cuz it has been proved it does kill the activity of an app when u swipe away in multitasking ui
try searching stuff before u say anything
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445065&highlight=kill
edit: there are lots of videos on youtube of people posting it kills from swiping away
showing the difference between pressing home after opening the app, then swipe away, the app has to reload again. cuz it kills the activity
andQlimax said:
it does not kill
u must use the search
its a list of recent used apps..u can remove apps from that list..not killing anything..and this is how should work
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Umm yeah, it does. It kills activities, but not associated services. Try it out first.
RogerPodacter said:
Umm yeah, it does. It kills activities, but not associated services. Try it out first.
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Here i would be presenting a thread in which i will be talking about how to get the most of your battery on our beautiful phones. It is a fact that at this moment of time battery is not that great on the HOX. But hopefully with the tips that i will present here, shall help people get the max out of their battery till we have some custom kernels drop our way. So without further or do i present a few things that you can do to get the most out of your battery.
Tips for better battery life
1) Touch screen sounds and lock screen sounds untick them from Settings-Sound. That causes the audio_out1 wakelock and unfortunately it is here as well on the HOX and drains battery like hell. So untick those so you do not get that massive wakelock
2) If you are using stock rom and have not rooted yet you can use this option to disable bloatware. Go into settings-apps and go into all. There you can select the applications you want to disable. What that does it will not unistall them but freeze them like TB does for rooted phones. It will remove them from the background and from your app screen to. Pretty nice feature if you ask me. Mainly disable your carrier apps and the google ones as well like Play Books, Play Movies and Play Music if you do not use them. Just a small addition to be added thanks to (pnnorth)- If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
3) If you are using Titanium Backup(i always recommend to get the Pro version) you can uninstall those apps or freeze them if you like. For me i personally would uninstall them as they do not have any use for me.
4) If you are at home and you want to browse the net on your phone always make sure you use Wifi. It is a no brainer that wifi drains less battery than 3G. So always have your mobile data in settings as off and just use wifi. When you are out and about though make sure you have wifi off and use your mobile data on your phone instead. Because if you have wifi on as well it will try and scan for the available networks it can pick up and that causes drainage on your battery. Have that off when you go out.
5) Regarding brightness. Make sure you either have it on low settings or auto. It is a fact that if you have max brightness for your display that is a battery killer as well. Settings-display-brightness and just adjust from there.
6) Regarding task killer apps or battery saving apps like Juice Defender i recommend to stay away from those. Those apps consume more battery than they are suppose to be saving. Regarding task killers it is NOT recommended to kill apps because Android does that for you anyway. Just make sure you the application that you use, you always use the back button to exit the app or just go into multitask and swipe it away.
7) If you are rooted make sure you fully charge your phone and then in recovery or from Leedroid tweaks if you are using that make sure you wipe battery stats. That always helps as well.
8) Regarding sync your accounts. Now i have mine on autosync. From reading around having to sync your email account and facebook and twitter and whatever account you have syncing that drains battery. Now you can do two things. One either set the option to have those on manual sync or if you do not use facebook then uninstall it. But to be honest i have everything on autosync and still get good battery so it is down to user preference really. But for those interested go into settings-accounts and sync and adjust to your choosing.
9) Switch to gsm/2g only instead of wcdma/3g in settings >mobile network >Network Mode. Specially if you're not planning to use any 3g internet/mms features. (thanks to Gdelrosario)
10) Try to avoid ad supported apps. A research showed that in apps where there is adds, 70% of the power use comes from downloading and managing those adds to your screen. 30sec use of an app that uses adds, might drain your fully charged battery 0.35%-0.70%. Research link found here (thanks to Tont0)
11) Settings > Developer options > Windows animation scale > "Animation is OFF".
12) Mentioned this above but will re-post here again with a bit more detail. (thanks to AndroidGX) If you have multiple mail accounts, turn off auto-sync feature to refresh them manually. Settings > Accounts & sync > Auto-sync : [UNTICK]
Note: this will works also for any app like Facebook, Twitter, Beautiful Widget, etc..
13) Disabling the options for louder ringtone when inside a pocket and stopping the ringtone when picking up the device might also help. (thanks to Hardstuffmuc)
14) Settings > Wi-Fi > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep : "Only when plugged in". That way wifi will not be on all the time and that means saving bit of juice in the process
LINKS:
*Link to the thread for BetterBatteryStats is below. Please install that app as it will help you to identify what app consumes your battery when you have screen off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
*Another great thread to have a look at is the Rom Cleaner by Patrics83. What it does it basically gives you this option : Will remove as much as possible without breaking HTC Sense Launcher and Widgets! This is the best way to come close to a no-sense ROM and still use HTC Sense!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589949
That is it for now. I will be updating this thread when i come across more battery saving tips. For now if anyone has anymore please post them and i will add them to the OP and give a thanks to you by adding your name next to the tip.
Was going to compile a list of apps that are safe to disable (for non-rooted users) and what to freeze uninstall (for rooted users). But since there is Rom Cleaner thread by Patrics83 as i have stated above you are probably best to go to his thread here where you can use his script and follow the guide on OP. This is script is for rooted users.
There also you can find a list of applications that is safe to disable for all those who are non rooted. Settings-apps and then go into all apps. As pointed out in first post tip 2 first if the application you are trying to disable has been updated first uninstall the updates and then disable the app
That is it for now more will follow
6) Regarding task killer apps or battery saving apps like Juice Defender i recommend to stay away from those. Those apps consume more battery than they are suppose to be saving. Regarding task killers it is NOT recommended to kill apps because Android does that for you anyway. Just make sure you the application that you use, you always use the back button to exit the app or just go into multitask and swipe it away.
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This is not a task killer. Also the apps are not aktive in backgraound, they are hibernatet. If you want to kill a task go to task manager.
lokiderelb said:
This is not a task killer. Also the apps are not aktive in backgraound, they are hibernatet. If you want to kill a task go to task manager.
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Juice Defender=Battery Saving App = Not so much of a battery saving app
And Maps, and even facebook are active in the background my friend. by disabling them you are kinda like freezing them anyway. And yes if you read above if you want to kill a task or terminate an app i did mention that you can do that through Task manager. Or even by going into multi tasking app and swiping the one that you do not use anymore exits the app my friend
Trust me i done my research before posting this thread. But i am also open to correcting something if i am wrong.
Just a small addition to point 2) - If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
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pnnorth said:
Just a small addition to point 2) - If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
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Done added that to the OP. Thanks mate..Hopefully this thread will come to some use to people.
Nice effort. I wouldn't take it as gospel tho'. But plenty to try and see what works for you.
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I already made another thread posting this one, but as I noticed there is one where to gather some common tips, I might as well add it here.
Try to avoid ad supported apps. A research showed that in apps where there is adds, 70% of the power use comes from downloading and managing those adds to your screen. 30sec use of an app that uses adds, might drain your fully charged battery 0.35%-0.70%.
Here is the link for the research http://www.androidauthority.com/ad-suported-android-apps-battery-drain-65716/
Very good thread. I tend to do most of what is mentioned anyway. As soon I got the phone I was busy tweaking the settings so that I could get the maximum power out of the battery. I'm not considered a heavy user anyway so it typically lasts 2-3 days.
you can also add to switch to gsm/2g only instead of wcdma/3g in settings >mobile network >Network Mode
specially if you're not planning to use any 3g internet/mms features
Cheers guys...Any tips that we can get i can add them all to the OP so that way we can have one thread which has everything. That way no need for clutter of threads regarding on how to improve battery life people can come here and read and discuss. Thank you guys i really appreciate your help
Added the new tips to the OP. Thanks
Qn: Are all battery saving apps not actually saving battery then? (E.g. Juice Defender)
NoobTerminator said:
7) If you are rooted make sure you fully charge your phone and then in recovery or from Leedroid tweaks if you are using that make sure you wipe battery stats. That always helps as well.
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wiping battery stats is done when reaching 100% charge and holds nothing but the useage of apps and does nothing to calibrate or improve battery life.
heres a quote to back this up.
Deleting this file will basically wipe your battery usage reports, which is done anyways automatically when the phone is fully charged (hence you'll see a clear list when you reach a full charge). "Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful".
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
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Qn: Are all battery saving apps not actually saving battery then? (E.g. Juice Defender)
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i will be honest with you. When i had my galaxy s2 and i had juice defender on that drained more battery than it was suppose to be saving. I could find you posts from users and kernel developers that i know from the s2 forums that advice against it. It is down to you to try and test but from my own testings i would advice against using them
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i will be honest with you. When i had my galaxy s2 and i had juice defender on that drained more battery than it was suppose to be saving. I could find you posts from users and kernel developers that i know from the s2 forums that advice against it. It is down to you to try and test but from my own testings i would advice against using them
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Thanks for the reply. My question was more general. Do you mean that there are no good battery apps?
How can we tel which apps support ads? I keep getting notifications in my status bar from random sites how can I stop that.
Thank you
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treebill said:
wiping battery stats is done when reaching 100% charge and holds nothing but the useage of apps and does nothing to calibrate or improve battery life.
heres a quote to back this up.
Deleting this file will basically wipe your battery usage reports, which is done anyways automatically when the phone is fully charged (hence you'll see a clear list when you reach a full charge). "Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful".
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
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True. You do have a point. but also on the other hand there has been people that saying by wiping battery stats that deletes the battery history makes everything start fresh as you mentioned above. What i am trying to get maybe it works maybe it does not. But one thing i know from my own experience by deleting those battery stats did help a bit on my battery. Hence why i posted that in the OP.
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Thanks for the reply. My question was more general. Do you mean that there are no good battery apps?
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Like i said mate. In general i have not bothered with battery apps. For me they eat more battery than they are suppose to be saving. If you follow my guide and also search on xda to find more threads like mine most will say that battery apps really do nothing..But it is down to you at the end of the day.
Mzhaze3 said:
How can we tel which apps support ads? I keep getting notifications in my status bar from random sites how can I stop that.
Thank you
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That is easy to figure out. Most of the times it will be all the free apps in the market. If you are rooted install ADaway and that will install the hosts on your phone and will block those ads.
I'm not rooted lol
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Curious if anyone has tried or had any luck running anything like Greenify or Titanium Backup on the Moto 360. I did get Greenify to load properly, and the interface is useable, but I couldn't actually get it to hibernate any apps. Just wondering if anyone has had any luck hibernating/freezing any apps.
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Curious if anyone has tried or had any luck running anything like Greenify or Titanium Backup on the Moto 360. I did get Greenify to load properly, and the interface is useable, but I couldn't actually get it to hibernate any apps. Just wondering if anyone has had any luck hibernating/freezing any apps.
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Just a follow-up, once I had proper root on the Moto 360, Greenify does work, and it does hibernate apps, which is cool. You have to manually run it, but it does work. I never did get Titanium Backup to run though.
Hey, sorry to bump.
When u say manually u mean go to mini launcher and click on the app + zzz fot each hibernation ?
And whay apps did u hibernate and also did it make any dif battery wise ?
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Hey, sorry to bump.
When u say manually u mean go to mini launcher and click on the app + zzz fot each hibernation ?
And whay apps did u hibernate and also did it make any dif battery wise ?
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Yes, open the app and click zzz to hibernate all selected apps.
I actually hibernated about all of the apps I could, tough to tell if it really helped with battery life.
Ad1982 said:
Yes, open the app and click zzz to hibernate all selected apps.
I actually hibernated about all of the apps I could, tough to tell if it really helped with battery life.
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what's zzz?
Zzz is Greenify's hibernate button.