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Does the De La Vega root method survive an OTA update. If I have a stock 4.3 T-Mobile Note 3, which I rooted with this method, will Root survive the OTA process? If so, can I just take the T-Mobile OTA, or should I use an alternate method?
I want to preserve my knox status for retail purposes, and don't want to use CF-Root to trip it. The thread is unclear, wondering if someone can confirm.
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I'm sorry but I personally have answered this 5 or 6 times. .. so here it is again. .. If you update you will lose root and there is no 0x0 knox method atm...It's only been a day so I'm sure someone is working on it. ...
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Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
nygmam said:
Thanks, was looking for an answer in several threads, and couldn't find it. Must have missed your other posts. Now it is clear...
Thanks again!
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Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
nickles96 said:
Funny, i asked the same question in another thread.. i wasn't able to get a clear answer either.
I have exact setup as you. are you going to take the OTA?
frankly, i am more comfortable taking OTA so i dont have to wipe and reset - and then wait for a knox 0x0 root method to come along.
i dont want to go through odin and wipe out all my stuff.. OTA seems cleanest to keep all my things intact.
what are you going to do?
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I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
nygmam said:
I just plan on waiting. Phone works well with 4.3 and root, don't want to go to 4.4.2 without root, and don't want to trip my Knox.
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I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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djtheraven said:
I had the sane thing as you but took the plunge. ..I hate not having root right now but this is the best rom I have ever used. .. It's way better than 4.3.... And you might have to update with kies because people stated that the update failed with the OTA when rooted. But I just went straight for kies and it works perfectly and it doesn't erase any of you information...4.4.2 smooth as silk after it settles and the wifi, data signal, keyboard changes and gps is great. ..
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Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
nickles96 said:
Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
BTW. Sorry your question did not get answered. The Q&A for the update was moved to the general section instead of this one, so i've been missing alot of Q&A actual questions.
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Oh. thats very interesting.. so i can do Kies and not lose any data ? didnt realize that..
do you have the problem that requires the External SD Card write fix, that rooted people are having to use?
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You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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That is not a problem. It is a feature that was built into Kit Kat specifically to make the system read from the internal storage for faster and smoother device. What we are doing on the root side is just a way for people with class 10 sdhc cards to be able to utilize their cards.
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I'm sorry I mean no disrespect, but what are you talking about? Breaking third party access to SD card is a feature?
And BTW yours is 3rd explanation for this mess, I heard security concerns and some other nonsense before, but to speed the device is a new one and biggest BS so far. How is SD card any concern for Google, since none of their current devices have SD card to begin with?
And as already mentioned the fix requires root and root breaks the Knox warranty on Samsung phones, so it's not an option for many.
If the speed was a reason for this so called "feature", how come all apps that come with firmware have access to SD card already, negating so called "feature" out of the box? Only third party apps that user may or may not install later are broken.
And how come the fix is not an option in the menu, available to all users, but requires root?
Sorry, but Google sabotaged SD card access on purpose to push people to their cloud services, that is the only logical explanation and this is not the first time they did that.
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You can use any Google native app to write to the external card... like the gallery or the my files app. ... Any 3rd party app will not be able to do so. .. like Samsung camera saves pics to the ex card but all other cameras have to save to internal card. ... And ex file will say card is read only but the my files app that comes with the update writes just fine. ...
Once rooted there is a fix for this. .. But I'm waiting for the 0x0 root
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Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
nygmam said:
Looks like a fix is available
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2676412
Should allow root without tripping Knox. You need Mobile Odin Pro to get this to work, and the bootloader posted in the thread above. Will be doing this tonight when I get home
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Yeah but that only works with 4.3...if you already updated then you are sol...
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So, I stupidly upgraded my tablet to KitKat a while back and now my SD card is rendered useless. I don't want to root because I don't want it to be a brick, so what should I do now?
I bought a 16GB tablet because my plan was to save everything on my SD card....
Hahahalalala said:
So, I stupidly upgraded my tablet to KitKat a while back and now my SD card is rendered useless. I don't want to root because I don't want it to be a brick, so what should I do now?
I bought a 16GB tablet because my plan was to save everything on my SD card....
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Hi,
You don't say which model you own ??
If it is a SM-P605 you can root it with TowelRoot without problem nor risk.
Once rooted you can install SDFix from Google Play to recover the use of your external SD.
Hahahalalala said:
So, I stupidly upgraded my tablet to KitKat a while back and now my SD card is rendered useless. I don't want to root because I don't want it to be a brick, so what should I do now?
I bought a 16GB tablet because my plan was to save everything on my SD card....
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I do not have mine yet. It comes in Monday but upgrading to Kit-Katie kills the SD slot? I Know I ordered the 600 and not the 605
Hope I didn't make a mistake with this tablet
randybellis said:
I do not have mine yet. It comes in Monday but upgrading to Kit-Katie kills the SD slot? I Know I ordered the 600 and not the 605
Hope I didn't make a mistake with this tablet
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Kit-Kat has restricted the access to the External SD to Read-Only for the external app's.
The system App's can still write on it.
This can changed with the above mentionned app but it needs root.
Tilagoon said:
Hi,
You don't say which model you own ??
If it is a SM-P605 you can root it with TowelRoot without problem nor risk.
Once rooted you can install SDFix from Google Play to recover the use of your external SD.
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It will be the 16GB White 10 inch one.
Really? I am afriad of messing up. May I havem ore info?
Thanks
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Kit-Kat has restricted the access to the External SD to Read-Only for the external app's.
The system App's can still write on it.
This can changed with the above mentionned app but it needs root.
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Do you know how can I move the systems apps to extsd w/o root then?
Hahahalalala said:
It will be the 16GB White 10 inch one.
Really? I am afriad of messing up. May I havem ore info?
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Yes but we need to know which model: Wifi only (SM-P600) or Wifi + 3G (SM-P601) or Wifi +LTE (SM-P605)
Only the P605 can be rooted without tripping Knox.
If you dont want to root Just save your files to internal memory and move them to wherever you want on the external sd card using the stock my files app. Its not just the note. Every android tablet that runs KitKat has the same behavior.
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Yes but we need to know which model: Wifi only (SM-P600) or Wifi + 3G (SM-P601) or Wifi +LTE (SM-P605)
Only the P605 can be rooted without tripping Knox.
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Oh the WiFi only one! I got it off groupon a while back.
Thanks everyone!
using a T-Mobile LG G4 running lollipop 5.1 software.
Accidentally deleted three videos from my phone a few days ago.
I've been scouring the web for applications that can recover the deleted videos from the internal disk. Does anybody? know please help?
This has worked for me in the past
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.defianttech.diskdigger
g_ding84 said:
This has worked for me in the past
IT says for "diskdigger" the phone has to be rooted first & I heard if you root your phone it will wipe it. Plus I believe each time you add softwear to your phone it rewrites over the deleted files. I could be wrong. Just posting this for clarification.
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dgash said:
g_ding84 said:
This has worked for me in the past
IT says for "diskdigger" the phone has to be rooted first & I heard if you root your phone it will wipe it. Plus I believe each time you add softwear to your phone it rewrites over the deleted files. I could be wrong. Just posting this for clarification.
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My apologies. I thought you were rooted already.
I haven't found a un-delete tool that doesn't require root.
Rooting however for me, I didn't lose any data. Plus you're reflashing the system partition, which shouldn't overwrite any of you internal storage (for pics and videos) as its a separate partition.
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Can you suggest an app that will root my phone?
I'm running android 5.1 lollipop.
T-Mobile LG G4.
Software version H81110n.
Build number LMY47D
Here's one thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3164765
Hi everyone, I love modding but I'm worried to lose warranty. Can you tell me which are the real advantages to have warranty? Thank you so much for your time.
transfer app to sd
The main reason I use to rot is to use program like Link2SD. The internal memory is never enough for everything.
I think the only advantage is about the warranty, and depending on the root can have malicious code behind.
sergioreis said:
The main reason I use to rot is to use program like Link2SD. The internal memory is never enough for everything.
I think the only advantage is about the warranty, and depending on the root can have malicious code behind.
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You can move apps to the external sd card by going to the Settings > Apps > Select an app > Storage and then hit Change. I don't think you need to use such kind of tools
joelalmeidaptg said:
You can move apps to the external sd card by going to the Settings > Apps > Select an app > Storage and then hit Change. I don't think you need to use such kind of tools
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But can't do it with every app.
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But can't do it with every app.
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Yes, the biggest use to not accept change to SD
In MM you can use an external sdcard as internal storage! Android will move apps then auto magically to the sdcard. No need for root no need for tools like link2sd anymore. Correct me if i miss a point here.
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CiroP33 said:
Hi everyone, I love modding but I'm worried to lose warranty. Can you tell me which are the real advantages to have warranty? Thank you so much for your time.
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you can root with locked bootloade and install xposed.. i have locked bootloader.. for warranty.. search google and youll find how to.
why opena again 123456577. root or not topic???Use the search options pls.
Moderator close this pls.Thanks!
raptorddd said:
you can root with locked bootloade and install xposed.. i have locked bootloader.. for warranty.. search google and youll find how to.
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you do know root still voids warranty don't you?
LG have a root checking tool RCT that logs if you have rooted your device.
OllieD said:
you do know root still voids warranty don't you?
LG have a root checking tool RCT that logs if you have rooted your device.
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not if you flash stock firmware.. or in the case of bootloop disable main core and root will be deleted when you flash stock KDZ. but unlocking bootloader you must ask LG for unlock.bin key , so i guess they have record that you requested the unlock key.. some have requested key , and say they didnt use it , got bootloop sent for repair and warranty was void and phone wasnt unlocked..
You can always pay for service if you cannot get out of boot loop yourself.
I think it is a risk worth taking considering benefits of rooting.
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raptorddd said:
some have requested key , and say they didnt use it , got bootloop sent for repair and warranty was void and phone wasnt unlocked..
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Who says that? Can you provide links?
Even LG says your warranty is void if you *unlock*, not if you just download the unlock.bin..
If anything happens and your phone has KDZ outs you can just use LGUP to go back to complete stock. I had a boot loader unlocked flag on boot and i used that to get rid of it when I had a bootloop and had to send my phone in for warranty repair.
You're saying a bootloader unlock is reversible/concealable?
EPa said:
Who says that? Can you provide links?
Even LG says your warranty is void if you *unlock*, not if you just download the unlock.bin..
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its on the bootloop g4 thread... i can provide a link to a way to relock bootloader ... i have not try it..
well apparently thats what one guy said, since they might have record that you downloaded and requested unlock . bin cause i think they ask for something not sure if serial number or imei... so the guys said he assumes they have it on record and belive you unlock it...
link for relocking..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/help/relock-bootloader-h811-t3372970
I asked proof about what you wrote concerning:
LG denying service on the basis of their "who downloaded unlock.bin" database, *even though the device was NOT unlocked*.
Is there any? I would really like to know.. That guy you're referring to, can you find the post please?
Edit: ok, I just noticed the words "thinks" "assumes" and the like. I have read the posts, so don't bother looking. These are not personal experience posts, just assumptions.
Hello, I will have Pixel 6 Pro today or tomorrow. As a grandfather unlimited data user on verizon I am wondering if editing the build prop and adding the line "net.tethering.noprovisioning=true" would still work as a hotspot work around? And if so, is there a way to edit build prop file without unlock and root? Do I have to wait until TWRP recovery is released for the Pixel 6 and Pull/Push the file through ADB? Thank you in advance for any help/info!
Nope ... even WITH root, you won't be able to edit the file as the filesystems are not write mountable nowadays.
With root, you can either overwrite the property or use Magisk's resetprop in a script to do that at boot time.
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Nope ... even WITH root, you won't be able to edit the file as the filesystems are not write mountable nowadays.
With root, you can either overwrite the property or use Magisk's resetprop in a script to do that at boot time.
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Thanks.. I haven't been up to date on these things.. I did edit the file on my last phone.. but it was unlocked and rooted.. I made the mistake of buying p6p from Verizon which seems like it's going to be a big hassle to get it unlocked? Guess I'm probably stuck paying the $30/month if I want hotspot on gUDP for a couple years
foobar66 said:
the filesystems are not write mountable nowadays.
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What? When did this happen and how?
mko000 said:
What? When did this happen and how?
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A long time ago. I want to say scoped storage but maybe even before that.
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What? When did this happen and how?
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Yeah, somewhere around the time of 4.4 KitKat or so. Or started there with external MicroSD cards and then they proceeded to do internal storage that way later, maybe as soon as 5.0 Lollipop.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Yeah, somewhere around the time of 4.4 KitKat or so. Or started there with external MicroSD cards and then they proceeded to do internal storage that way later, maybe as soon as 5.0 Lollipop.
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That can't be true, I'm on Android 10 and can mount my system partition r/w just fine.
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That can't be true, I'm on Android 10 and can mount my system partition r/w just fine.
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What I said in my post is definitely true, and I remember it when I was on KitKat and Lollipop devices. What is Scoped Storage in Android?
"With Android 4.4 KitKat, Google started making changes to and adding restrictions on how an app could access files it did not own, and with Android 5.1, the Storage Access Framework was implemented."
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Also more up to date information on it here: Scoped Storage
roirraW edor ehT said:
What I said in my post is definitely true, and I remember it when I was on KitKat and Lollipop devices. What is Scoped Storage in Android?
Also more up to date information on it here: Scoped Storage
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You want to tell me you have root and can't mount your system partition r/w?
Yeah I'm not super familiar with the technicalities, but I was able to do it with Razer Phone 2 on Android 9.. but that was an unlocked device with root.. idk what has changed since then but if any one figures it out for a verizon locked P6P please let me know! lol
mko000 said:
You want to tell me you have root and can't mount your system partition r/w?
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I'm not talking about root. I was replying to your first question below.
mko000 said:
What? When did this happen and how?
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roirraW edor ehT said:
Yeah, somewhere around the time of 4.4 KitKat or so. Or started there with external MicroSD cards and then they proceeded to do internal storage that way later, maybe as soon as 5.0 Lollipop.
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roirraW edor ehT said:
I'm not talking about root. I was replying to your first question below.
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I replied to that: "Nope ... even WITH root, you won't be able to edit the file as the filesystems are not write mountable nowadays."
mko000 said:
I replied to that: "Nope ... even WITH root, you won't be able to edit the file as the filesystems are not write mountable nowadays."
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You're confusing me, man. I was just answering your question.
roirraW edor ehT said:
You're confusing me, man. I was just answering your question.
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Thank you. I should have qouted more I guess.
Answer this one please: Is the following statements made above true?
"Nope ... even WITH root, you won't be able to edit the file as the filesystems are not write mountable nowadays."
mko000 said:
Thank you. I should have qouted more I guess.
Answer this one please: Is the following statements made above true?
"Nope ... even WITH root, you won't be able to edit the file as the filesystems are not write mountable nowadays."
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No sweat, you're welcome. That, I don't know and I'm not in a position to test right at the moment. Sorry for the confusion.
android 11 on current device and i can mount system R/W with root just fine
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android 11 on current device and i can mount system R/W with root just fine
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What device? Not on a pixel. The only way in to do it is systemlessly, through a Magisk script at boot.on a older pixel for sure no problem
If I remember correctly, it started with pixel 3.
It seems that the partition is formatted with EXT4 with a shared blocks feature that makes the partition read-only without the ability to change that:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1170404631865778177
I'm in this exact situation. But I got my p6p from Google directly. My OnePlus 7 Pro isn't rooted but it didn't verify my hotspot subscription at all. I thought getting the non carrier version would avoid this problem. Now with no build.prop what to do...