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[Q] Want to Buy LG G3 or G Pro 2 or htc E8 or Desire 816, any advice?

Hi,
I Have htc HD2 and i need to get a new phone with 5.5 inch, I am comparing between LG G3 5.5 inch, LG Pro 2 5.9 nch, htc E8 5.0 inch and htc Deire 816 5.5 inch ( low in specifications but the only htc with 5.5").
I like LG G3 for the specs specially battery removable, but i am afraid from over heating, lag and battery life. Is there a new product version for LG G3 resolving overheating ?
Please help as i need to get a new phone.
Thanks.

azizmorgan said:
Hi,
I Have htc HD2 and i need to get a new phone with 5.5 inch, I am comparing between LG G3 5.5 inch, LG Pro 2 5.9 nch, htc E8 5.0 inch and htc Deire 816 5.5 inch ( low in specifications but the only htc with 5.5").
I like LG G3 for the specs specially battery removable, but i am afraid from over heating, lag and battery life. Is there a new product version for LG G3 resolving overheating ?
Please help as i need to get a new phone.
Thanks.
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Not sure what you mean in regards to overheating. I have never experienced overheating on my D851. Rarely gets warm with day to day use. In regards to battery life, I easily get a 1 1/2 days to 2 days of use. This is with typical usage of emails, web and text messaging. However I have removed a bit of bloat off of my phone, so it may be helping. I am still running stock but will be moving over to Cloudy ROM soon. Overall I am very pleased with this phone. Upgraded from a SG4.
Good luck.

cbb77 said:
Not sure what you mean in regards to overheating. I have never experienced overheating on my D851. Rarely gets warm with day to day use. In regards to battery life, I easily get a 1 1/2 days to 2 days of use. This is with typical usage of emails, web and text messaging. However I have removed a bit of bloat off of my phone, so it may be helping. I am still running stock but will be moving over to Cloudy ROM soon. Overall I am very pleased with this phone. Upgraded from a SG4.
Good luck.
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I have read on this forum that some people had overheating and random rebooting, when did you get your phone?

azizmorgan said:
I have read on this forum that some people had overheating and random rebooting, when did you get your phone?
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Got mine in August and it's been rock solid. Mine is the Tmobile version. Possible other variants are the ones having issues.

Of the options you mentioned on the title, the G3 is the best option.
Btw, if you consider 5.9 inch phones to be okay and comfortable to use (you mentioned the G Pro 2 as an option), you should probably go for the Nexus 6.

cbb77 said:
Got mine in August and it's been rock solid. Mine is the Tmobile version. Possible other variants are the ones having issues.
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I think the first product for G3 having this issues, may be they resolved the heating and performance for the new products.
In my Country the esn date is 20140905, hope they are not effected.
What about the brightness and contrast of the display? is it stunning?

azizmorgan said:
I think the first product for G3 having this issues, may be they resolved the heating and performance for the new products.
In my Country the esn date is 20140905, hope they are not effected.
What about the brightness and contrast of the display? is it stunning?
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No issues here. Originally had concerns regarding brightness as well as multiple reports of screen being dim. However It is plenty bright for me. I keep it at 68% brightness. I guess it might not be as bright as a Samsung device, but it really only matters if you happen to keep your phone at full brightness. If you don't, then it shouldn't really matter. It's possible I kept my SG4 at 58% brightness and now LG is at 68%. End result is the same so no worries.

if4ct0r said:
Of the options you mentioned on the title, the G3 is the best option.
Btw, if you consider 5.9 inch phones to be okay and comfortable to use (you mentioned the G Pro 2 as an option), you should probably go for the Nexus 6.
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I am interested for the 5.5 inch, I like htc sense specially the blink feed but htc E8 is 5.0" only and the 5.5" display for Desire 816 is HD also i don't like the built in battery as i do not know what i will do when the battery dead as i hope the phone to last for 4 years, that's why i am looking for LG G3 for it's removable battery and 5.5" but i missed the htc sense and blink feed.

You could easily watch reviews of these devices and pick .... Android authority.... Technobuffalo ...mkhb..... Plenty of reviews for your convenience.
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You could easily watch reviews of these devices and pick .... Android authority.... Technobuffalo ...mkhb..... Plenty of reviews for your convenience.
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I saw most of them , but i have read that some peoples had overheating, random reboot, bad performance, display not bright as it should be, but may be that for the first product but i am not sure.

azizmorgan said:
I saw most of them , but i have read that some peoples had overheating, random reboot, bad performance, display not bright as it should be, but may be that for the first product but i am not sure.
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Overheating? Only when you use phone on full/high brightness for prolonged periods of time. And I wouldn't call it "over"heating in my usecase.
Random Reboots? I've faced none so far.
Bad Performance? Not at all. I've had a smooth exp especially since moving to Cloudy/AndroidNow ROMs. Even the stock one wasn't "bad" at all.
Display not as bright? I use mine at 45%-55% most of the time, and it is as bright as I need it. Personal preference is the thing here I guess.
Contrast and Color reproduction may not be as good if you compare it with other phones(Hint: Samsung) side-by-side, but it definitely is good on it own. I like the screen quite a lot and pretty happy with it.
As for the other factors you mentioned before, for a phone lasting 4 years.. yes you probably should go with one having a removable battery then. In that case G3 is the better option here. HTC Sense UIyou'll have to miss out on, but I'm pretty sure Blinkfeed will be ported over(as has already started in the Dev thread).

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Overheating? Only when you use phone on full/high brightness for prolonged periods of time. And I wouldn't call it "over"heating in my usecase.
Random Reboots? I've faced none so far.
Bad Performance? Not at all. I've had a smooth exp especially since moving to Cloudy/AndroidNow ROMs. Even the stock one wasn't "bad" at all.
Display not as bright? I use mine at 45%-55% most of the time, and it is as bright as I need it. Personal preference is the thing here I guess.
Contrast and Color reproduction may not be as good if you compare it with other phones(Hint: Samsung) side-by-side, but it definitely is good on it own. I like the screen quite a lot and pretty happy with it.
As for the other factors you mentioned before, for a phone lasting 4 years.. yes you probably should go with one having a removable battery then. In that case G3 is the better option here. HTC Sense UIyou'll have to miss out on, but I'm pretty sure Blinkfeed will be ported over(as has already started in the Dev thread).
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Thanks for your help, did you get some hallow around text? as i read this in some reviews.

azizmorgan said:
Thanks for your help, did you get some hallow around text? as i read this in some reviews.
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I've seen a lot of people complaining about this too, and while I can see some extra sharpening around text in some apps, I do not notice it everywhere and I'm definitely not bothered by it as much as the people who are complaining. So that's that.

[Q] LG G4 vs Samsung Galaxy S6

idk if this is the right place to ask. My apologies if it is. I'm looking for a new phone to get and well, like the title says, which one is the better bet? I think i should state which aspects of a phone are actually important to me and which are not. I don't really care much for the "premium feel in the hand" and I'd as easily take the g4 as I'd take an S6. I'd rather have the removable battery and the SD card slot but not having them isn't a deal breaker. Performance, well, is the most important part of the phone for not only me, and i don't think I'm wrong to say, everyone. I'm not going to mention the camera because from what I've heard, you can't go wrong with either one. Battery life isn't a big deal for me. I don't mind having to plug in the phone during the day. And the biggest of the bunch is the developer support. Let me just say this now, it is a MASSIVE deal for me. I would never buy a phone without knowing if it would have support from developers. I slap on CM as soon as i get a phone and i know that CM won't be available as the devices are quite new but as soon as they arrive, I'll be one of the firsts to flash them. I've had bad experiences with touchwiz in the past so I think the CM part was worth mentioning as S6 uses an exynos chipset and there has never been much development for exynos variants of samsung's previous phones. This phone is going to be a 2-4 year investment for me so i want to know which one will be the better phone. Again, I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask. Your opinions are very appreciated.

Get G4 with blind eye. You wont go wrong. As you say you are going to use it for long term, s6 battery is going to be dead and its hard to replace it. G4, got awesome camera. After a year or two if anything happen to battery (i bet it will not though) you can just get another one.
Performance is at best on G3 and G4 too. I wouldnt have switch to G4 if it didnt have best camera.
Lg is unlocking bootloaders themself, so sooner or later you will get root and all stuff. If you are out of space you can add as much as you can. Not like s6 , go on cloud or get another phone.

Im gonna go,ahead and say the G4 my mom has the s6 and honestly it sucks Wifi is always cutting in and out and even when she is on 4g that seems to,be a little on the wonky side as well now mind you it's a verizon s6 and I have the g4 and can say I've ran into no issues yet with it
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Im gonna go,ahead and say the G4 my mom has the s6 and honestly it sucks Wifi is always cutting in and out and even when she is on 4g that seems to,be a little on the wonky side as well now mind you it's a verizon s6 and I have the g4 and can say I've ran into no issues yet with it
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My Verizon S6 has been running without issues. Both are great devices and the OP can't go wrong with either choice.
Battery life between the two has been pretty much the same for me. Both cameras are obviously great and it's hard for me to say which I prefer. When it comes to software, I lean towards Touchwiz since it just seems a bit more polished overall, but the software is really subjective.
As mentioned already, a positive about the G4 is the removable battery. Since the OP plans to use the phone for a while, the battery is a lot easier to replace on the G4. No need to send it to Samsung or a third party to replace the battery of the S6 with a new one later down the road. This isn't a concern for me since I keep my devices for a short time, but it may be something to consider.
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il buono said:
My Verizon S6 has been running without issues. Both are great devices and the OP can't go wrong with either choice.
Battery life between the two has been pretty much the same for me. Both cameras are obviously great and it's hard for me to say which I prefer. When it comes to software, I lean towards Touchwiz since it just seems a bit more polished overall, but the software is really subjective.
As mentioned already, a positive about the G4 is the removable battery. Since the OP plans to use the phone for a while, the battery is a lot easier to replace on the G4. No need to send it to Samsung or a third party to replace the battery of the S6 with a new one later down the road. This isn't a concern for me since I keep my devices for a short time, but it may be something to consider.
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I dont know about your usage but my roomate got S6 and he says its horrible for battery.
S6 camera is more saturated and more colorful then reality.

@OP, Both solid phones. In terms of overall performance, the S6 is better. Trust me I owned both devices and the first thing I noticed the moment I turned on my G4 and start using it is that its not as smooth as the S6. The G4 has better battery life and the removable battery is huge.

bikrame said:
I dont know about your usage but my roomate got S6 and he says its horrible for battery.
S6 camera is more saturated and more colorful then reality.
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Here's some sample screenshots of my battery life for both devices.
Galaxy S6
LG G4
Not the most detailed, but it gives you an idea of how long it lasts between charges and SOT. I have yet to own a Lollipop device with battery life that impresses me (including the Nexus 6). There are people out there with both devices that have reported better battery life and crazy SOT, but these are my usual results.
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@OP, Both solid phones. In terms of overall performance, the S6 is better. Trust me I owned both devices and the first thing I noticed the moment I turned on my G4 and start using it is that its not as smooth as the S6. The G4 has better battery life and the removable battery is huge.
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Basically my same experience with the performance. My S6 is running encrypted and it's still smoother than the G4. I wouldn't call the G4 laggy, but there's just something about the S6 that provides a better software experience.

Both are great devices depending on what you value more. I think s6 has higher chances to be future proof because it already got fingerprint reader and great processor, while g4 processor is already outdated from my point of view. Also s6 feels better built, overall more complete experience. I have both, my g4 sits on my desk.
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S6
Pros: speed, aesthetics, better software in general
Cons: Battery can be bad if not tuned right, WiFi isn't incredibly strong, storage can be an issue for some, camera images over-saturated and over-sharpened IMO
G4
Pros: Buttons on back (seriously, I kind of hate buttons on the side now. Subjective; YMMV), Better camera control, more ameliorating images, screen size, sd slot
Cons: Little bit thick & heavy, battery life could be better, squared edges are a bit unwieldy, software a bit clunky (but a huge improvement over the G3), somewhat sluggish compared to what a 2015 flagship should be

Well, seems as if G4 is the deal for me. Appreciation for everyone who presented their opinions :good:

One more thing, if we were to ignore the replaceable battery, would the s6 beat the g4? And will CM roms available for the S6 considering the Exynos processor?

NotAbdShahid said:
Well, seems as if G4 is the deal for me. Appreciation for everyone who presented their opinions :good:
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Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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NotAbdShahid said:
One more thing, if we were to ignore the replaceable battery, would the s6 beat the g4?
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That seems like a big "if", of course.
But, IF, and if the S6 also had SD, I would definitely consider it, personally.
Though the combination of a smallish battery that is also not replaceable kinda makes me nervous, even ignoring storage aspects. Batteries degrade with time, and I want to keep my new phone at least 2 years. So if battery life started out iffy, what will it be like in a year and a half?
The S6 Active would make me feel better, you're at least using a much larger battery.

ione2380 said:
Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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Dont have heating problems at all...
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Also it depends on the variant one is going to use. Out of the box Verizon's S6 has European LTE bands active and sim unlocked while the Verizon G4 only really has LTE bands for the Americas.
I probably would have gone with a European G4 to use on ATT as it has American and European bands but since I am stuck on Verizon the S6 made more sense. The S6 is fast and very smooth. Someone suggested it might be faster because it does not have to read and write to an external card.

ione2380 said:
Keep in mind that lg g4 has serious heating problems. I am allready on my second g4 and about to take it back for the same heating issue!
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???
What heating problems?

@dontpannic In the sense that is getting hot with normal usage! At least mine does!
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@ione2380 I would be inclined to evaluate what apps you have installed/running - I got 4 hours of SOT yesterday with quite heavy use and the phone was still pretty cool. Warm on some more intensive things but not hot. My S4 was worse!

@dontpannic 10 minutes of pinterest or buzzfeed and it gets hot or downloding 2 bigger apps from playstore. I have just a couple of apps installed. Try playing plants vs. Zombies 2. My phone gets extremely hot after 5 min. of playing that game!
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Here is what I'd say based on my limited experience with G4 so far, if you want best camera currently in market and a very strong device with amazing app support. There is nothing better than G4 right now. Yes things will change in a year but by that time G5 may be out. So you never know. I've used iPhone from 4 to 5S. Moved to Lumia 1520 basically for camera. And now on G4 - primarily because of camera. Its solid device and don't forget to get 128GB Lexar microSD. It rocks this phone with performance.

Considering buying ZF2

Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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chepoz said:
Yup, the brightness are a little bit low at max. But still manage to clearly seen under the sunlight. And the lowest brightness are still too bright it hurt my eyes in dark environments. You may use screen filter app to solve this, and started on .90 fw update, the screen filter already implemented by asus. The camera...well, not too bad at this budget. Still can't compete with other flagship phones. If you are an expert at photography, you may consider buy another phone.
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ok that's great to know that you can still see under sunlight I'm not an expert with photography just wanted to know how well it took pictures
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The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.

alex.o said:
The camera is really bad in my opinion. Every photo I take seems to be grainy or just not all that clear. There are much better options out there. The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now. there are also good deals on the note 4 and other devices that are a year old. The brightness is a bit low, but you'll get use to it. It was a great phone for the money when it launched, but there are better options now. It is a good phone, but not great anymore.
I've always been able to use it the whole day. I usually have 10-20% battery left at night when I plug it in.
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Well I wanted to go for the zenfone because of the great specs and such but I'm open to any other 5"-5"5' phones just as long as its around 300€ or so. If anyone else has any other suggestions on what other phone I could buy I'd gladly appreciate it
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For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.

I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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Bushcrafter said:
For the money its a great phone. I love mine! You get what you pay for.
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I agree with Bushcrafter. Mine does everything I want, and at less than half the price of comparable handsets.
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what are ye guys experiences with the display and camera ?
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I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.

alex.o said:
The nexus 6 can be had for $299 now.
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I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer

DimitrisGate13 said:
I noticed OP posted the price in Euros, I assume he's European, so the median price of a Nexus 6 device in Europe right now is more than 450 to 500 euros at some cases, whereas the ZF2 can be found at 50 or 100 euro cheaper than the Nexus6
For the specs it has, I'd say it's a good offer
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Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, great reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
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I prefer the ZF2 over my Nexus 5. The reports regarding the screen brightness are, while true, exaggerated imho. The camera is worse than the Nexus 5's but I don't care about the camera anyway.
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Ok that's good to know that the screen brightness isn't that bad
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I am more than satisfied with the performance of mine. I watch a lot of videos on mine and I can't complain. It is very clear and the screen brightness is not as bad as I'd heard. Comparable to my M7. The camera takes decent shots in bright and low light. I have nothing but good thingscto say about the performance of this phone.
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Ok great thanks, I hope that the camera will be better than my current moto g (1st Gen) [emoji14]
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bublz654 said:
Yeah the Nexus 6 is a bit pricey here. Yeah I'll go for the ZF2, gear reviews here and loads of exaggeration of reviews elsewhere.
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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints

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true, I've also ordered it and wait it to be delivered since a local eshop had it on a special offer at 339€. Of course, If I could find both Nexus 6 and the ZF2 at the same money, I'd get the first mainly because you can mod it easily and without any repercussions (unlocked bootloader doesn't void the warranty, etc)
But then again, going from my current phone of 512 mb ram and 400 mb internal memory to a rocket like ZF2 doesn't leave me much room for complaints
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although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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bublz654 said:
although the nexus has a better stock experience it has a bit lower specs so I might as well get the ZF2 for the bit lower price
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got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually

DimitrisGate13 said:
got mine 2 hours ago, holy **** it's fast. Rooting was also easy and quick. Seems like it's very good actually
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that's great to hear good luck with your phone.
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bublz654 said:
Hello there,
I am considering of buying a ZF2 and I have looked around at probably 15 reviews on this phone [emoji14] I don't care about design and such but the guides were saying that the brightness and the camera are a bit bad.
Is the brightness really bad on the ZF2 ? And how does the camera do ?
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Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.

Relayers said:
Im a new owner and I regret getting this phone. Battery life is terrible, camera is mediocre, many weird bugs, screen brightness is a joke, reminds me of my 2011 HTC. Oh and still no Android 5.1 and its probably never coming to this phone apparently and probably same story for Android marshmallow.
Avoid this phone at all cost. You can get a better phone for less IMO. Mine is going on Craig's list if the next big patch doesn't fix the battery life.
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I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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bublz654 said:
I don't care about android version [emoji14] can easily root it anyway and flash ROM. ROMS can easily fix battery life issue
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nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.

Relayers said:
nope, none of the ROM currently available can give this phone a good battery life.
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It has better battery life than lg g4 and galaxy s6(had both), so what's your point? If you personally have a bad experience with your unit, that doesn't make this a phone to "avoid at all cost".
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What are you going to take after the G4?

Hey guys so this is my last day here at the G4 forum. Ditching my phone for an Oneplus 3.
I Wanted to create a thread where u can share information about your next device and why u leaving the G4.
For me it's clear. I have a sn 506 which thank god never bootlooped. I sent my phone after 12 months of usage in because of crazy screen burn in and they replaced me Motherboard processor and PCB. And it did get worse after that. Phone got unusable and the lack of Updates made my choice in direction to the OP3.
Goodbye Guys

I'm still using my LG G4 and I'm loving every bit of my experience with it. My next phone, when I replace it would be either LG G5 or LG V20.
Motorola are good phones, Samsung is great, I've used different models of those. But there is no other phone like LG when it comes to Androids. Best experience ever.
They aren't good at marketing their products like their competitors which makes them loose the market to less quality products out there. Otherwise, LG makes great phones. Remember the time when LG released LG Viewty? The whole world had that phone on their wish-list. They still make extraordinary phones.
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Steering clear of any LG phones. The G3, G4, G5, and V10 all had bootloop problems. No thanks.

I am an Android fan and modder since 2013. I love(d) Android. So much customization, and I still like my G4 (except the fact if i hit it very weakly or it accidently jumps down the battery connection loses and it turns off). Few months ago I bought an iPad Air 2. I have to tell you, iOS is awesome. Lag? Not even a micro. Weaker hardware than G4 and runs much smoother. I also love iOS animations. Sorry Android, but.....
My new phone will be probably an iPhone 7 Pro/Plus, or a 7S.

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I am an Android fan and modder since 2013. I love(d) Android. So much customization, and I still like my G4 (except the fact if i hit it very weakly or it accidently jumps down the battery connection loses and it turns off). Few months ago I bought an iPad Air 2. I have to tell you, iOS is awesome. Lag? Not even a micro. Weaker hardware than G4 and runs much smoother. I also love iOS animations. Sorry Android, but.....
My new phone will be probably an iPhone 7 Pro/Plus, or a 7S.
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You were a modder and now you want to go into iOS jail?! Mah...
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One thing is sure..i will never buy any phone from LG,G4 is the worst phone I've had so far,for LG is best to produce dishwashers instead of smartphones,with my G4 i have problems with :red colored retention on gray colored parts of display,poor call quality ,call volume too low and distorted,terrible battery life,overheating,phone is 505 series it has has problems with everything except the camera ,and the damn thing does not want to die (bootloop issue) so I can get a new phone because I still have a year warranty on damn thing,never more LG smartphone ,next phone will be most likely iphone 6s plus or new coming iphone 7 i am just to tired of tweaking android so i can have a normal phone

My next device would either be a HTC or Nexus. I saw how the G2 and G3 had the bootloader unlocked eventually so I thought the same would happen. I then realized how much I truly needed it, life without AOSP feels so.. Slow.
HTC always seems to be spot on with their devices on the software level. Their camera need work but I'm not a photographer anyways.
Nexus is like a blank canvas and can be tuned to your liking. I'd probably go nuts with the options available.

Looking forward for V20,
Own att G4 with 506 serial and so far so good for my daily usage...even with my front camera have focusing issue but i'm not a selfie person.
Feel sorry for those who had bootloop issue with their device

I love the G4 but my confidence in it is basically shot. I've had it about nine months and it has had to go back for warranty repairs three times. Twice for screen issues and once for bootlooping. Add to that my non-carrier H815T is still on the January security patch, which is crazy. It's disappointing because my two previous phones (Nexus 5 and Nexus 4) were both also LG devices and were really good. But now every time my G4 has the slightest bump, stuff that I would normally just ignore as a quirk, I find myself sweating that it's about to start bootlooping again or get some other crazy hardware issue.
I'm going to wait and see what the new Nexus device is like when it's released in a few weeks. If that doesn't tickle my fancy then I'll have a serious look at a Samsung Galaxy S7.

Got a Oneplus 3 on the way. Going to sell my G4 SN 506 EU H815 even though it has had zero issues and in brief been a fantastic device. Just can't really gamble on it not developing bootloop. Plus OP3 has fingerprint scanner, excellent development and just generally a very well rounded device.:good:

If I drop my G4, then I will get a HTC 10 or one of the new Nexus devices. Depends on the price of course and if I had the money...:good: (So I don't know if ever...student life without money ftw!:silly: )

Moto Z Play
Good camera, good battery, thats all i need

My actually device is the LG G4, it's a good Smartphone, but I think the G3 was a bit better, it was easier to root and flash then the G4, the design from the G3 is so much better.
My next device is: LG V20, G5 or Nexus 6p
Sorry for my ****ing **** English

Though I'm pretty happy with my LG G4, having heard of all these bootloop and other issues, I probably won't be getting another LG device. From a design point of view, the G5 does not appeal to me one bit. Pretty much the same goes for the V20.
Having used a few smartphones now, I began to lean more towards stock Android, so probably a new Nexus device is on the horizon for me. OnePlus might be an option as well.

My boat with LG G4 has sailed. I enjoyed this device and now I have given it away.
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I purchased the G4 on October 2015 and got the bootloop on December: so I sent it for repair before the holidays and they replaced the motherboard (IMEI and SN untouched), then I got it back on January. After this episode I've never had a single problem with this phone, I really love it, but at the same time I'm really disappointed about how LG (at least here in Italy) supports it (just a security patch after 8 months, when other phones get regular patches every month). Also, I red about many G4s that bootlooped again even if they were repaired the first time and now some V10s and G5s do the same thing too, so I'm a little bit afraid that bootloop might happen again. Patience, but I don't think my next phone will be another LG, I'm going to get an HTC (my One S was a really good phone and today for basic stuff is still OK) or an ASUS (I recently bought for my mum a Zenfone and it's fantastic) in the future. I usually change my phone every 3-4 years, so I have much time to think about this.

I love stability and camera quality in phones.
When I came back to Android I tied a few till I get at G4.
Loved Huawei Mate S and OnePlus 2.
But camera it's all G4, so ill stick with it till I get a better one.
For me it's only one bad thing about this phone, its the screen resolution - no point higher than FHD for a 5.5 screen and battery suffer cause of LG choice.
Rest I'm loving it.
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Guys...... Nexus is dead.
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shadavis08 said:
Guys...... Nexus is dead.
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What do you mean with that?
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imarcel99 said:
What do you mean with that?
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This, probably - http://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-and-google-pixel-xl-coming-to-you-on-october-4th/
I'm not due an upgrade for a year, but my next phone will most likely be a Nexus (or Pixel/whatever they call them).

Unbiased recommendation for buy

Hi I had a Zuk Z2 and it was a good phone, in fact, the best phone value out there but unfortunately it has gone and im using a old Xiaomi Redmi 2.
I was looking to buy a new phone and found a interested sale promotion on Mi5S (3GB/64GB) Gearbest, it is 217.00EU which i consider cheaper for this model.
In other hand, i dont like MIUI ROM, its outdated take too much Ram and have bad battery life also i didnt see a lot of life on development tabs which brings to me a question.
Take all of this in consideration, would you recommend to buy it?

I personally love the device, so, yes for me.
Coming from Galaxy Note 4 and Redmi Note 3, this phone is a huge upgrade (aside the screen that is downgrade from Note 4).
And though many (bad things) has been said about the FP, I love the FP sensor as well as it can detect even when my fingers are wet / slightly moist (I live in tropical country) unlike Redmi Note 3 which will require me to wipe my fingers dry first.
MIUI is not bad, especially if you use Xiaomi EU rom for example. The features are massive and most of them offers quality of life improvement. To each their own of course however.

With something like the Nova Launcher, I like the Mi5S, though audio quality through the 3,5" isn't the best and multitasking is limited to a handful of apps. But speed and build quality are very good. Also the battery life is quite good with the latest firmware and you have an incredible quick fastcharge function on it. Or you can wait until the FP works good on LineageOS, but I can't really tell how long that will take.
You can also consider the likes of Motorola (good software, but average battery life) and maybe something from LeEco with LineageOS installed on it. You can also find midrange Sony phones for a reasonable price nowadays, for instance the Xperia X Compact (low res screen, but good phone nonetheless). Also Honor makes good phones. The UMI Z is also worth the look with recent prices, although I don't know about battery life.
If battery life is the most important thing, than buy the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro. You get a solid week of usage per charge and the build quality is superb in the price class. Also, the Snapdragon 625 is more than fast enough for everything but gaming. Plus it's just over a 100 dollars when discounted.
/EDIT: The LG G5 is heavily discounted in the US at the moment: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/06/21/deal-alert-get-unlocked-lg-g5-259-newegg/

Coming from the redmi 2 wt88047, I find that the MI5s is much better but battery life is not that much better. Everything is an improvement compared to the redmi 2 but the battery life is pretty much the same.

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/EDIT: The LG G5 is heavily discounted in the US at the moment: http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/06/21/deal-alert-get-unlocked-lg-g5-259-newegg/
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LG G5 have random reboots, and it can appear after your purchase. Phones on SD625 are really useless today ( if you want a phone for 2-3 years ). Sony is very expensive for their quality and software support. Mediatek phones are very hot.

My mom has a Redmi 4 Pro and it's very fast, way more than the 617 my girlfriends phone has. So I really don't see a problem with this chipset.
But I don't know about the G5 though. Is it really still the case after all the patches? Would be idiotic, but I have seen worst in the phone industry.

I'm very happy with this phone. I'm a very casual user, no modding, nothing. All that I need works very nice, running latest official global rom.

Thanks to all, I made my choice, I choose OnePlus 5 ???.
But
How I don't have enough money I bought a Mi5s (3Gb/64gb) from gear best hope I'll be very happy with this phone ?
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