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Rom Size worries

Need some reassurance...The Internal MB free is the space I need to worry about as the phone uses this as its memory. I have a few apps installed already, but was curious if I need to worry about the system Rom size.
Mine Reads:
System Rom: 367MB (9.94 MB free) (Kingsrom R 6.1)
Internal : 448 (323 MB free)
SD Card: 15.9 GB (10.2 GB Free)

Your running kings from it takes up slot of space if you want space flash another rom hehe
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The Internal space is what the Apps are installed to anyway correct?

Do a search for APS2SD.
It's very simple to partition your SDCard so you can run that.
Here's a good guide:
http://themikmik.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=221

Unless you're adjusting your partition sizes (which I believe most people don't do), it really doesn't matter how big or small the ROM itself is, as long as it fits. It goes on a separate partition (/system), which is a fixed size. With few if any exceptions, files don't get written to /system during daily use of the ROM. Your apps and data get installed to /data, which is also a fixed size partition. Having space free in one doesn't help you with the other. So the extra data in /system just sits there unused.
There are ways you can adjust the partition size, but I think there are some downsides to doing that -- I don't know off the top of my head what, but there must be a reason it hasn't broadly caught on. You can also manually move apps into /system, but if they get updated you have to remember to move the updates back again.

[Q] SD-card partitioning / storage layout on desire

Dear XDA forum,
since a few roms i always get a "low on storage" warning, even after factory reset and flashing a new rom.
So i'd want to ask for a small summery of what storage there is inside the desire and on the sdcard and how to solve this problem
My sdcard is 16GB class 10. I didnt partition it manually (i think).
according to my desire it has effective 14.2gb.about 2gb are used and 4gb are free? that doesnt sound right.
so i guess its 2 partitions?
could anyone please tell me which mountpoint is which?
and how do i solve the low storage problem? do i need some a2sd script or do i have to more the internal storage to the sdcard?
which mountpoints do the scripts actarlly move?
i have no problem with repartitioning my sdcard. i was given to understand that u usually need a fat32 partition (for apps i guess) and an ext2/3 partition afterwards. some scripts even allow a swap partition at the end of the sdcard to be used as swap space. is that a good idea?
i know its a lot of questions :/ but i hope for some good answers :>
thanks & greetings,
soomon

my advice would be to backup your sd card and (re)partition using gparted, start from scratch because I don't know what your current configuration is, step 5 here
choose ext3/ext4 partition (max ~1.5GB) depending on rom requirements, most support ext4 and should be slightly faster. most roms don't need swap partition.
in simple terms, your space will get taken up by apps (apks), dalvik cache, app cache and app data. most custom roms will automatically move apks to your sd-ext partition. there are various different scripts which move the other bits around. generally it is better to keep app data on internal (/data partition)
regardless of which rom you choose, use an app like 'diskusage' to browse all your partitions, so you can work out where and how all your space is being use.
to maximise space you also need to be s-off and correct hboot for the rom (again should be stated within each rom thread, or search within it)

ok so the first partition on the sdcard will become my sd-ext which will replace the /data partition on the internal storage.
I guess is hould try data2sd then?
with a class 10 it should not get that slow and i get loads of space on that partition.
thanks for your help.

also use links2d,very usefull.....

hi again,
as i see in a terminal emulator by typing "df -h"
my data is 150mb and has 15mb left, so i guess i better moe the whole partition to the sdcard as i'd have to move all the apps to the sdcard anyway sooner or later.
my /system has only 5mb of 250mb left. is that a problem?

soomon said:
hi again,
as i see in a terminal emulator by typing "df -h"
my data is 150mb and has 15mb left, so i guess i better moe the whole partition to the sdcard as i'd have to move all the apps to the sdcard anyway sooner or later.
my /system has only 5mb of 250mb left. is that a problem?
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depends entirely what rom you're running if any, and what scripts it uses. basically you should be able to find some way to install many apps without running out of space (one of the main reasons for rooting in the first place ).
with your current setup, you could try something like link2sd to just move apps and dalvik to sd, see if you have enough space that way. you shouldnt have to manually 'move to sd', keeping them on 'internal' tricks them to sd-ext. (you can use something like 'diskusage' to check they're actually on the sd-ext)
the system partition is meant to be mostly full. free space on /system is wasted space.
you're still on stock hboot, which is why your data partition is so small.
if you install another rom, many of them have a smaller system size, so if you're s-off you can flash a different hboot to repartition your internal memory layout: your system size will reduce to roughly match your rom, and the saved space is converted into extra data space, see alpharev.nl for hboots.
e.g. if your rom system is 140MB, will fit nicely into cm7r2 hboot with 145MB system, and you get 287MB of data instead of 150MB. 287MB can be enough to store app data and dalvik cache if you don't have too many apps.
i refer you to these sets of guides for further reading, should explain a lot more, and better than i have...

thanks eddie,
i'm still s-on and stock hboot, but i use a custom rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766550
i guess the problem is that LBE gues 4 and lookout together need over 22mb of space :/
i'll try link2sd then.
thanks!

hm.. when i try to install link2sd i get "insufficient storage available". that program is not even 1MB in size and i have 15mb of free space on the internal storage.. what can i do?
edit: i'll try to install it at home with an adb tool. maybe i have more luck with that.

follow instructions for a2sd with that rom (scroll down). this will move apps and dalvik to sd-ext automatically. or follow/search the thread for other methods, it's regularly discussed...
[not used link2sd, it should in theory do the same thing, but my advice would be to stick with the instructions as that's the recommended way if you really need/want to install link2sd...uninstall something else to make more space ]

ofc removing apps might help (althrough i only installed 2 or 3). but 15mb should be enough to install a 800kb software
gonna try to install some apps later after running a2sd.
thanks a lot man didnt see that information.

easy step by step for clearing phone memory

I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.

legacygt777 said:
I've read on here that people are able to install lots of apps without clogging their memory on their phone, placing all their info on their sd cards. can someone help me do that? I've already have app2card and other apps to clear up memory but things still start to take up the phone memory.
I've done the search and can't figure this one out. i'm using the atomic rom and I believe my phone is rooted. thank you.
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Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB

Bakisha said:
Well, even if apps is moved to sd, their odex files will still occupy space in dalvik-cache. If you have many apps, internal space will surely be low.
I'm using DiskUsage app to see what is taking space in internal memory.
Here is some hints from me that can help you with internal memory problems:
-clear your apps cashe and data from time to time (obviously, you can do that for not so important apps, but not for games, because you will loose your progress)
-Most GB roms are not big in term of size, so there are lot of space left in /system (sometimes even more then 100MB). You can install some of your apps to system (move them from /data/app to /system/app).
-Reodex your rom. You'll get 30MB+ if you reodex just framework folder, even more if you reodex all system apps. (so all odex files will be in system partition, not in dalvik-cache (data partition)
-Finaly, you can unlock your bootloader and flash custom kernels (lupus or turbo kernel) that can increase you data partition to 610MB
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thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.

legacygt777 said:
thanks! i'm really happy with my atomic 7 gb rom so I don't think I will flash a new one (at the moment). I have abou 120mb left in my internal memory....is that pretty good? will reodexing your rom slow down the system?
appreciate the feedback.
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120MB is OK. Actually, it's all ok untill first thing you want to install fail due low space. Then you can think of things posted above.
No, reodexing rom won't slow your phone.

I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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ozzmanj1 said:
I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.

legacygt777 said:
1)just downloaded link2 sd
2)ok baby steps here....how do I format card?
3)"use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4" - how do I do this? is that an app?
thanks man....much appreciated.
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First, make a backup of your sd card to PC.
Minitool is program for PC. Tutorial how to use it (with download links) is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/SD_card_partitioning

ozzmanj1 said:
I think your referring to Link2sd. I have about 300 games/apps installed and still have loads of space. Look up link2sd in the market and follow the instructions. You need to format your sdcard and use minitool partition to make am ext2 or ext3 or ext4. I use ext2 foe the partition. Make it around 1-2gb in size. I made mine 3gb. The rest is fat32 format for your sdcard. When you install links it will ask what ext type it is. 2,3,4 etc. Select the format and it will install the script them reboot from that point all installed apps will be linked to that partition. Freeing up a lot of space. Like instead of a few megabytes of storage its more like a couple kilobytes as its just a file telling your phone where to look foe the application or game on your ext partition.
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so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.

legacygt777 said:
so do I partition (say ext2) first? and make it 3g. then I format the rest of the space fat32?
sorry if this is so basic.
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also is the ext2 my primary?
the rest of it "logical"?

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Any way to reclaim integrated memory space?

Hi guys,
I was wondering, now that I no longer use a TouchWiz-based ROM, if there's an easy way to reclaim the "lost" space available in the /system folder after flashing a now much small ROM. I know TW-based ROMs use at least 1GB of space, if not more, but my current ROM barely pushes 200MB used of the /system folder, leaving with me a lot of unused space I would like to use for the integrated storage.
Regards

gonXed said:
Hi guys,
I was wondering, now that I no longer use a TouchWiz-based ROM, if there's an easy way to reclaim the "lost" space available in the /system folder after flashing a now much small ROM. I know TW-based ROMs use at least 1GB of space, if not more, but my current ROM barely pushes 200MB used of the /system folder, leaving with me a lot of unused space I would like to use for the integrated storage.
Regards
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It's about partitions, no matter what rom you use.
Imagine you have a 1gig harddisk. You partitioned it into four 250gig harddisks as C,D,E,F
You have installed Windows 7 on C drive but then you installed XP to save some spaces for the harddisks D,E,F
Would it be possible? No!
You have to resize all the partitions which would cause you bigger problems.

I think is something to do with the pit files.
I read something about Sammy offering a new Flash for the s4 with some Chinese rom that enables them to get another couple gig space whilst losing some trash.
I hope we can get something similar either officially or through our devs
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[email protected] said:
It's about partitions, no matter what rom you use.
Imagine you have a 1gig harddisk. You partitioned it into four 250gig harddisks as C,D,E,F
You have installed Windows 7 on C drive but then you installed XP to save some spaces for the harddisks D,E,F
Would it be possible? No!
You have to resize all the partitions which would cause you bigger problems.
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I don't think I follow you. You're telling me resizing partitions is not possible? Theoretically, it is with any type of filesystem and partition table that supports differently sized partitions/blocks. I'm not asking if it's possible to do it, I'm asking if it's possible to do it in an easy way.
My question wasn't if it was possible to do it with the new ROM, I was asking if it was possible to do, now that I have some abundant disk space for /system.
On my Nokia N900 this was extremely straightforward as I basically had the full GNU coreutils available - and with some hacking I resized the partitions to better fit my needs - and even flashed the fat32 filesystem to ext3 while I was at it.
And since it's possible with S4 as 3vo3d mentioned, there's no reason it shouldn't with the GN2.

gonXed said:
I don't think I follow you. You're telling me resizing partitions is not possible? Theoretically, it is with any type of filesystem and partition table that supports differently sized partitions/blocks. I'm not asking if it's possible to do it, I'm asking if it's possible to do it in an easy way.
My question wasn't if it was possible to do it with the new ROM, I was asking if it was possible to do, now that I have some abundant disk space for /system.
On my Nokia N900 this was extremely straightforward as I basically had the full GNU coreutils available - and with some hacking I resized the partitions to better fit my needs - and even flashed the fat32 filesystem to ext3 while I was at it.
And since it's possible with S4 as 3vo3d mentioned, there's no reason it shouldn't with the GN2.
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No, I didn't say that you cannot resize partitions
I said that you cannot gain more space in other partitions by just installing a lighter OS. I said exactly what you said in the rest.

Repartition Note 2?

I just installed CM10.2 on my i317 and was amazed how much left-over space there is in /cache and /system. Is there a way to repartition it so I can use that extra 1.5GB of space in /data?
So far, it looks like this:
/system - 1763MB total (444MB used)
/cache - 1259MB (110MB used)
Can I shrink /system down to ~768MB (for future updates like KitKat) and /cache down to ~512MB?

Um.. Anyone?
It seems that repartitioning is a taboo in these parts.

Simba.7 said:
Um.. Anyone?
It seems that repartitioning is a taboo in these parts.
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I wouldn't do it. This was more of an option for earlier builds where you needed to put part of your system on the sd. Unless the rom you want says to do it I wouldn't mess with it.
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So, I'm stuck with 1.5GB of wasted, unused space. That sucks.

Simba.7 said:
So, I'm stuck with 1.5GB of wasted, unused space. That sucks.
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I haven't used cm11 but I believe you can change the size of your system memory. Either way when you leave a tw rom you gain something like 4gb of memory back.

Simba.7 said:
So, I'm stuck with 1.5GB of wasted, unused space. That sucks.
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Lol. If you want to use it so bad put your user apps on the system partition. Problem solved
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