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I've got a lot of devices that use micro usb, and several quick charge adapters and hubs.
From my understanding the OP3 will only quick charge when using the specific charger and cable that comes with it.
Now I'm wondering if I'll no longer be able to charge while driving and using GPS... only true quick charge seems to catch up to that kind of drain.
Anyone have an idea how this might work?
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I too heard that only its own charger will charge it, but with root and custom kernels I can only imagine it'll get open to any usb-c cable
It would still charge with any cable but not at "Dash" rate!
OnePlus AMA on Reddit they say there are Power Management chips built into the Chargers so doubtful of it being opened up to any USB-C cable at Dash Charge rates.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/4o308u/oneplus_ama_oneplus_3dition/
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I too heard that only its own charger will charge it, but with root and custom kernels I can only imagine it'll get open to any usb-c cable
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Nope not true at all. Any charger with a USB-C cable will charge this phone. Confirmed by Andrew on Android central
I submitted a question on what kind of usb type C connector they used. I'm wondering if they circumvented the "official" type C connection in order to implement their dash charging tech.
Get the £25 Car Charger that will stop problems with drain.
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Okay, reading through the thread, I feel like I can give you some definitive answers, and maybe solutions as well.
1) The Dash charging management IS offloaded to the charger. This means that only a charger with the built in functionality will trigger Dash charging safely. However, they WILL be selling accessories for cars, walls, etc. Might be available now. Keep checking, and if you're really curious you can call them and find out if they have any plans for the above.
2) ANY USB-C cable will charge the device, but not at QuickCharge/Dash speeds. This isn't a matter of triggering it in the device via software; the device is missing the hardware to make this work without the proper chargers. So it WILL charge, but at normal speeds.
(That being said, I ADVISE AGAINST using any charger that's not branded for the device. These things can and have caught fire and gone boom, and there's a reason they test the **** out of them before releasing them into the wild. The kid in China making $2/hr does not get paid enough to care if you die, so that's your responsibility.)
3) The inclusion of quickcharging means you can get to a destination with a plug and be reasonably charged within an hour. Unless you're a trucker, you'll probably just need to carry a charger around with you if it becomes THAT much of an issue, or keep one at your destination (I do this with my HTC 10, since i only have one plug. Works fine, lasts overnight and the 1 hr train ride to work.)
Hope this helps.
I have a nexus 5x that has usb-c with no issues. I use the stock power brick to charge and bought a respectable anker usb to usb-c cable for my pc. Can use that to adapt to my car charger to. You shouldnt have any issues. When my op3 gets here ill still use the same anker cable.
I've been using the Anker 4.8A / 24W car charger for at least a year and have (quick charged) my Note 4, LG G4, Moto G, and other devices without any problems. But I've never owned a USB-c device, so I'm weary about using it.
I honestly don't want to spend another $100 on an extra adapter, cable, and car charger just to make it a little more convenient!
Well, while it is type C, and can charge at 2.1amps, it is also wise to understand the factory charger and cable are capable of so much more. It is essentially OPPO's VOOC, which takes the heat out of the device into the charger and pushes about 20 watts, even while the phone is active.
The below video (i came across) has a great comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAS76EZ87dc
I don't wanna start new theme. So quick question. Does this usb-c support any hub with hdmi, full usb 3.0 (or2.0)and usb-c charging?
Keep in mind USB-C is the new standard, everything next year will be USB-C. So whats the difference between spending $100 on new chargers now or $100 next year when it is the only choice you have?
Also a quick google-foo shows there are several USB-C to HDMI/USB/USB-C adapters
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Nope not true at all. Any charger with a USB-C cable will charge this phone. Confirmed by Andrew on Android central
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Thanks for that info. I have to look that article up. I just wonder will is have USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 to Rapid Charge. I now know that not every smartphone that has a USB-C port rapid charges. Neither my Nextbit Robin nor HTC 10 do, and I later found out they weren't USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 compliant.
Not sure why you refer to USB-C to HDMI or DP but OP3 does not have video out support.
Think I'll just take the hit on my wallet and buy a spare Oneplus dash charger. I'm slightly annoyed they went for a protected system, when Apple did it we were unhappy, so far I've not seen the community complain about this new Oneplus 'feature'.
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Not sure why you refer to USB-C to HDMI or DP but OP3 does not have video out support.
Think I'll just take the hit on my wallet and buy a spare Oneplus dash charger. I'm slightly annoyed they went for a protected system, when Apple did it we were unhappy, so far I've not seen the community complain about this new Oneplus 'feature'.
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I was going to complain, but then I did the research on DASH/VOOC and realized it is best in class, better than anything on the market to date. Quickly Charge with little heat... I'll pay 30 for a 2nd charger. And if I am in a bind, I'll just use normal USB C and suffer as I do now with my 1+1.
My only grr moment is seeing a car charger is $30.
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Thanks for that info. I have to look that article up. I just wonder will is have USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 to Rapid Charge. I now know that not every smartphone that has a USB-C port rapid charges. Neither my Nextbit Robin nor HTC 10 do, and I later found out they weren't USB-C Power Delivery 2.0 compliant.
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sorry did not see this. the oneplus 3 charges at a much slower speed using the stock nexus 6p charger. i checked
I use the dash charger at home and a standard 2.1A Capdase Power adapter in the car and a 2.1A Capdase Wall Adapter at work. Obviously only the Oneplus Dash Charger Charges at lightning speeds. But to be honest.the other chargers also do faster than normal charging. Im comparing from my oneplus 2 that one used to take forever to charge. I get a full charge with the dash charger in say abt 45 to 50 mins. And with the normal charger in about 1hr 30 mins. Which is still quite fast IMO. Oneplus 2 used to charge completely in about 3 hours. Im using the oneplus 3 cable with the Dash charger. The Oneplus 2 Cable in my car and an UltraProlink USB to Type C cable at work.
Tldr. Dash charger works super fast. Other normal chargers work just fine.
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sorry did not see this. the oneplus 3 charges at a much slower speed using the stock nexus 6p charger. i checked
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Thanks for checking. Excuse my lateness. I had a feeling that would be the case because it charges severly slower with my USB-C Rapid Wall Chargers.
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Angadadlakha said:
I use the dash charger at home and a standard 2.1A Capdase Power adapter in the car and a 2.1A Capdase Wall Adapter at work. Obviously only the Oneplus Dash Charger Charges at lightning speeds. But to be honest.the other chargers also do faster than normal charging. Im comparing from my oneplus 2 that one used to take forever to charge. I get a full charge with the dash charger in say abt 45 to 50 mins. And with the normal charger in about 1hr 30 mins. Which is still quite fast IMO. Oneplus 2 used to charge completely in about 3 hours. Im using the oneplus 3 cable with the Dash charger. The Oneplus 2 Cable in my car and an UltraProlink USB to Type C cable at work.
Tldr. Dash charger works super fast. Other normal chargers work just fine.
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That's great, It takes me about 70-72 minutes for a full charge from 0-100%. On top of the speed, I really appreciate that it doesn't overheat. I feel more confident with any smartphone that doesn't overheat while charging.
I came from my Nexus 5x - it uses a 5V 3A charger. Even though I know the tech's not exactly the same, the oneplus should at least handle 5v2a if not 5v/2.4a like a lot of modern phones. I was hoping even it could handle the full 5v/3a the nexus 5x charger offers.
Using ampere - I see Im only getting 1.5amps from a 3a charger nexus 5x charger. Anyone else having this issue?
Rico
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I came from my Nexus 5x - it uses a 5V 3A charger. Even though I know the tech's not exactly the same, the oneplus should at least handle 5v2a if not 5v/2.4a like a lot of modern phones. I was hoping even it could handle the full 5v/3a the nexus 5x charger offers.
Using ampere - I see Im only getting 1.5amps from a 3a charger nexus 5x charger. Anyone else having this issue?
Rico
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Oneplus have propriety over dash charger may be frimware treat other charger as normal chargers.. i have have even used vooc charger of my friends oppo f1 plus it show normal voltage
Not only do I see only around 1.5A using third party cables / chargers, I see MUCH LESS (around 300mA) with a third party cable in the DASH charger (1.5A when I flip the USB-C cable end around) so whatever the OP3 charger is doing, it doesn't play nice with other cables.
I'll be leaving the DASH cable and charger together and use 3rd party cables for syncing / other uses, I have my doubts about that cable...
Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!
It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)
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It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)
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Thank you for your detailed comment. Very helpful!
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It will charge but not at the same rate as the stock charger 9v/2a. It will slow charger the pixel fine assuming your charger is good and you are using a good Usb-a to usb-c cable.
Quick charge is a qualcomm proprietary charging method that the pixel doesn't use. If you want fast charging I would suggest finding a usb-if certified usb-c charger that does 9v/2a. Obviously, the one on the Google store that comes with the pixel should work.
One word of caution. If you follow Benson Leung and Nathan K. on Google+, you will see there are a ton of out-of-spec usb c chargers and cables on the market. That is why I suggest that you buy one that is usb-if certified. That should offer you some level of safety (though not always, I'm looking at you belkin and your 27w car charger with power delivery)
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Yes, thank you for that info as well!
mcuellar said:
Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!
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Just go for any chargers with Power delivery, it will work.
Yup. It's my understanding anything that goes from USB-A to USB-C, regardless of what kind of charger it is, will always charge at 1A or less.
Also make sure if you "have" to charge USB-A to USB-C, you don't use a "bad" cable. (see Bensen reviews)
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Yup. It's my understanding anything that goes from USB-A to USB-C, regardless of what kind of charger it is, will always charge at 1A or less.
Also make sure if you "have" to charge USB-A to USB-C, you don't use a "bad" cable. (see Bensen reviews)
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My understanding is that you are referring to a cable that is wired for both data and charge. I have several "charge only" A to C cables that are wired different from data / charge cables. These charge my XL quite rapidly.
I believe quick charge 4.0 all also supports power delivery. But, I haven't found a 4.0 charger.
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Here's a good article on trusted A to C cables.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/verified-trusted-list-usb-to-usb-c-t3240969
mcuellar said:
Hi,
I have several car chargers that use Quick Charge 3.0. Would it be safe to charge the new Pixel 2 XL with those chargers, and would it provide fast charge?
Thanks!
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I have been using all my Quick Charge 2 and 3 chargers and the work well.
They don't charge as fast as they did with my Nexus 6, but they are far from slow charging.
I am using these adapters on all my cables and they awesome.
USB Type C Adapter 4 Pack, JS Aluminum USB C to Micro USB Convert Connector with Keychain for Samsung Galaxy S8 New Macbook Pixel XL Nexus 5X 6P LG G5 G6 V20 Nintendo Switch and More(Grey 4 Pack) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LYR5F2X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fm--zbAXX932S
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Looking for the Quick Charge 3.0 charger for Google Pixel 2 XL ? I am just now using Choetech for my Google Pixel XL . It have an ability to Quick Charge 3.0 and USB Type-C ports. So, you can charge different phablets like Google Pixel 2 and Pixel 2 XL which are compatible with these ports.
Any one know of a way to power the Pixel 2 (XL) via DC power port?
I have a power bank that can offer a higher voltage through a DC port along with the regular 5v 2.1amp usb port. I know it's a stretch, but I'm hoping it could mean the quick charge capability than the trickle I get from the 2.1amp usb port.
I have already purchased and attempted this. It did not pan out. And that was the best (available, in stock, rated) looking cord/adapter I could find!
I imagine the brand new Pixel 2 XL has more complex hardware given to power itself and it probably isn't close to how the new macbook's architecture is, so I have my doubts as to if this is even viable at all. But, I figure, it would be a good idea to ask here in the slight chance...
Thanks in advanced!
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So I have a qc3 outlet and battery from Anker neither will fast charge the phone using any of the cables including the og cable with the USB adapter provided or with the latest set of cables I purchased.
AUKEY USB C Cable 3ft Braided , [3 Pack] USB C 3.0 Type C Cable Fast Charge for Samsung Note 8 S8/S8 Plus, LG V20 G6 G5, Google Pixel 2/2 XL, HTC 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2NNG12?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
...But when using my old Motorola qc2 cable and brick it does qc. What am I missing?
Right in the reviews people say they dont fast charge sometimes. One guy said to flip it 180 degrees and see if it works. You get what you pay for with these cheap cables.
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So I have a qc3 outlet and battery from Anker neither will fast charge the phone using any of the cables including the og cable with the USB adapter provided or with the latest set of cables I purchased.
AUKEY USB C Cable 3ft Braided , [3 Pack] USB C 3.0 Type C Cable Fast Charge for Samsung Note 8 S8/S8 Plus, LG V20 G6 G5, Google Pixel 2/2 XL, HTC 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2NNG12?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
...But when using my old Motorola qc2 cable and brick it does qc. What am I missing?
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Strange, I didn't think this phone supported the QC charging standard as it uses PD instead. And as far as I know, they're not cross compatible. But I've been wrong before...
i dont think these cable support fast charging for Pixel and only way to get fast charging is with using USB-C cable that has PD support.
I can't even get fast charging with the included Charger and Cable.....
Mine fast charged consistantly with included charger and PD charger I got off Amazon. Until February update. Now I'm only getting 480mah during charge. My daughter's Nexus 5x gets 1700mah during charge.
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I can't even get fast charging with the included Charger and Cable.....
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Is this a new issue or have you had it all along? Did you modify anything with your phone before this started?
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So I have a qc3 outlet and battery from Anker neither will fast charge the phone using any of the cables including the og cable with the USB adapter provided or with the latest set of cables I purchased.
AUKEY USB C Cable 3ft Braided , [3 Pack] USB C 3.0 Type C Cable Fast Charge for Samsung Note 8 S8/S8 Plus, LG V20 G6 G5, Google Pixel 2/2 XL, HTC 10 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C2NNG12?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf
...But when using my old Motorola qc2 cable and brick it does qc. What am I missing?
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What you are missing is, that this phone is not compatible with QC standards,
Pixel using USB PD, just like on Nexus 6p and 5x, also like what being used by apple on iPhone X and their new macbook.
If you want quick charge pixel phone. Buy USB PD charger, and USB C to C cable that support PD as well, not QC charger.
Anker has several models supporting PD, but in term of price, Choetech or Aukey might be better option, am using choetech myself.
Or you can get nexus 6p/5x charger instead for just 7 bucks. It even inc USB C-C cable.
If you feel adventurous, you can even buy Apple 30W USB PD charger for 40 bucks, it will fast charge ypur pixel as well.
So is there a battery pack that would work with this and maybe an outlet. This is rather frustrating one of the reasons I got rid of op 5t which had amazing charging but proprietary. This is not as limited but still bs.
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So is there a battery pack that would work with this and maybe an outlet. This is rather frustrating one of the reasons I got rid of op 5t which had amazing charging but proprietary. This is not as limited but still bs.
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Actually USB PD in term of product cost and availability is even more BS. Its easier to buy dash charger , and it even cheaper.
If you need a battery pack that support PD, you can get one from ANKER, but the price is simply amazing. I think its around $100 for the battery pack.
As for outlet brick, you can get choetech for around $11 inc cable. Or find nexus charger for around $7. Aukey and Anker outlet would cost you around $15-30
QC is proprietary as well. PD is the only universal standard, but Qualcomm has invested too much money into QC to make the switch now. One day, Google is going to force PD compliance for all Android builds. Until then, be patient or accept the fact that early adapters like us will simply pay more until prices come down.