Hellomotohk Droid Turbo 2 image leaks : https://www.facebook.com/hellomotohk/posts/603677043105548
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2015/08/07/droid-turbo-2-release-rumors-emerge/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Droid-Turbo-2-and-Droid-Maxx-2-both-coming-soon_id72185
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/07/30/droid-maxx-2-and-droid-turbo-2-allegedly-in-the-works/
http://masterherald.com/motorola-dr...ng-protocol-similar-to-its-predecessor/23875/
http://pocketnow.com/2015/07/30/droid-turbo-2
So, there is not much time left to reveal the new droid turbo 2 and moto maxx 2. The rumors started to emerge by now. What do you think of the new droid turbo 2 / Moto maxx 2 ? POssible specs are unknown but possibly 810 with lowered clock speeds to maintain heat
Well, I'm hoping it's a beast, with a serious battery upgrade...
hopefully they treat this like they did the Ultra/Maxx from 2013 and that they are the same phone, but the Maxx has the huge battery...I'm not cool with the idea that the Maxx will be a lower tier device...that makes no sense to offer the high end device with crap battery
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I'm not buying a moto x until the details of the Turbo 2 come out. Need to understand what is different in terms of specs and capabilities.
If it is basically a Moto X Play with better processor, I'll buy that instead of the (too large in my opinion) Moto X Style/Pure.
If the Turbo 2 is 5.7" like the Style, then I won't buy it and will wait for the next Nexus 5.
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Well, I'm hoping it's a beast, with a serious battery upgrade...
hopefully they treat this like they did the Ultra/Maxx from 2013 and that they are the same phone, but the Maxx has the huge battery...I'm not cool with the idea that the Maxx will be a lower tier device...that makes no sense to offer the high end device with crap battery
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If your most desired feature in a phone is long battery life, then a lower tier device with a huge battery would make sense. I also want the latest and fastest, but a lower tier device with a huge battery would be well suited for Ingress.
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If your most desired feature in a phone is long battery life, then a lower tier device with a huge battery would make sense. I also want the latest and fastest, but a lower tier device with a huge battery would be well suited for Ingress.
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Nah, the Turbo was a design failure as a follow-up to the Droid Maxx...the Maxx was a high end device with a bigger battery then anything else out there...with the turbo they needed up the specs, and then barely upgraded the battery...
You can have both the latest and greatest, as well as stellar battery life
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I'm not buying a moto x until the details of the Turbo 2 come out. Need to understand what is different in terms of specs and capabilities.
If it is basically a Moto X Play with better processor, I'll buy that instead of the (too large in my opinion) Moto X Style/Pure.
If the Turbo 2 is 5.7" like the Style, then I won't buy it and will wait for the next Nexus 5.
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details on Turbo 2: snapdragon 810, 3700mah battery, 5.4" POLED (plastic OLED) screen, available via Moto Maker with a one time design swap (you redesign a new one and send the other one back). No mention of sd card has been made. Also, no mention of bootloader unlock or a developer edition. the last two are all I need to know before I pass on the Moto X Pure 15. all of this info is plastered on Twitter. all of the tech "news sites" have this info via (at) upleaks though that account is disabled atm.
http://www.mobipicker.com/moto-x-force-aka-droid-turbo-2-gets-certified-in-china/
who needs Rumors when facts are much better http://www.rootjunky.com/leak-motorola-droid-turbo-2/ enjoy
http://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/droid/
I've posted about it many times before but spec wise, this phone IS NOT an upgrade to our current Turbo.
- 810 is meh at best. Our 805 tops it after a few seconds of sustained usage. Our 64bit memory interface keeps our memory speeds right on par too.
- GPU is a hair better. Negligible at best.
- Screen is bigger which is a negative in my eyes and of lesser image quality being POLED.
- Battery is smaller albeit only 200 mAh
The only thing that would make this better than the current gen is a bootloader unlock which, let's face it, is bleak considering it's a Verizon exclusive.
Our Turbo was a great buy back in October 2014 and it's going to be relevant all the way past SD 820 devices.
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I've posted about it many times before but spec wise, this phone IS NOT an upgrade to our current Turbo.
- 810 is meh at best. Our 805 tops it after a few seconds of sustained usage. Our 64bit memory interface keeps our memory speeds right on par too.
- GPU is a hair better. Negligible at best.
- Screen is bigger which is a negative in my eyes and of lesser image quality being POLED.
- Battery is smaller albeit only 200 mAh
The only thing that would make this better than the current gen is a bootloader unlock which, let's face it, is bleak considering it's a Verizon exclusive.
Our Turbo was a great buy back in October 2014 and it's going to be relevant all the way past SD 820 devices.
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Couldn't agree more. Got mine back in 2014 and decided to buy 2 more for my family a few months ago (refurbished for $290 on eBay). Best investment ever.
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Screen is bigger which is a negative in my eyes and of lesser image quality being POLED.
The only thing that would make this better than the current gen is a bootloader unlock which, let's face it, is bleak considering it's a Verizon exclusive.
Our Turbo was a great buy back in October 2014 and it's going to be relevant all the way past SD 820 devices.
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Just curious, but why would having a plastic display cause less image quality? They use the same technology, I don't see why there would be any difference? Also, the bigger screen would be a lower pixel density, but with a 565 ppi on the original, there would be virtually no difference to the untrained eye.
I agree with the bootloader unlock though. If it happens, I will buy, but the snapdragon 820 should, in theory, be leaps ahead of the 805 so I wouldn't say it can surpass the 820.
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Just curious, but why would having a plastic display cause less image quality? They use the same technology, I don't see why there would be any difference? Also, the bigger screen would be a lower pixel density, but with a 565 ppi on the original, there would be virtually no difference to the untrained eye.
I agree with the bootloader unlock though. If it happens, I will buy, but the snapdragon 820 should, in theory, be leaps ahead of the 805 so I wouldn't say it can surpass the 820.
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Never said the 820 wasn't going to smoke the 805! For the sake of all mobile devices it NEEDS to be leaps and bounds ahead of everything out there right now.
POLED as proven in the LG Flex phones doesn't have the image quality of normal AMOLED. I can't find the specific article that went in depth on it but it's most definitely a step back quality wise than our AMOLED panel.
HOWEVER, if it truly can take more abuse without breaking than that's a trade off that would be worth it. Gotta pick your poison.
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Never said the 820 wasn't going to smoke the 805! For the sake of all mobile devices it NEEDS to be leaps and bounds ahead of everything out there right now.
POLED as proven in the LG Flex phones doesn't have the image quality of normal AMOLED. I can't find the specific article that went in depth on it but it's most definitely a step back quality wise than our AMOLED panel.
HOWEVER, if it truly can take more abuse without breaking than that's a trade off that would be worth it. Gotta pick your poison.
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I've read the same thing also. POLED can't compare to AMOLED.
It's fine as a gimmick, but not visual clarity. Unless Motorola has developed it more than LG has.
With the Quarks we already have 3GB, 64GB storage, ballistic nylon with Kevlar underneath, turbo charging, Qi wireless charging. We have Snapdragon 805, not the problematic throttled 810. And a 5.5" display size is NOT better than 5.2". Maybe 5.3" -- but not 5.5".
Unless they offer us rear camera OIS and STEREO speakers -- which they gave the MOTO NEXUS 6 and should have given us last year -- what else can they offer? Oh, shatter proof display with less visual quality? No thanks.
This thing better be unlocked.
Im waiting if this will get stereo front speakers...
I think Turbo's loudspeaker quality is poor.
You guys should maybe take a look at LGs OLED curved TV, it has been awarded countless times in the last year as having the best screen of any TV. My uncle has the 55in version just in 1080P and its amazing. Take a look at this link http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/lg-eg9600-vs-samsung-js9500/ Yeah there's a $4000 price difference but this is Samsungs high end amoled panel, in the end the price doesn't matter, this is to show you what OLED can do so don't count the Turbo 2 out just yet.
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Couldn't agree more. Got mine back in 2014 and decided to buy 2 more for my family a few months ago (refurbished for $290 on eBay). Best investment ever.
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pjd2011 said:
I've posted about it many times before but spec wise, this phone IS NOT an upgrade to our current Turbo.
- 810 is meh at best. Our 805 tops it after a few seconds of sustained usage. Our 64bit memory interface keeps our memory speeds right on par too.
- GPU is a hair better. Negligible at best.
- Screen is bigger which is a negative in my eyes and of lesser image quality being POLED.
- Battery is smaller albeit only 200 mAh
The only thing that would make this better than the current gen is a bootloader unlock which, let's face it, is bleak considering it's a Verizon exclusive.
Our Turbo was a great buy back in October 2014 and it's going to be relevant all the way past SD 820 devices.
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I just bought a Moto Maxx to work with AT&T's LTE band 17, and am very glad to read this post. I was very torn on waiting to hear about the new X Force, but after the leaks, I think this summary is spot on. All great points. I really wonder if there will ever be a device made in the future that matches the Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx specs, particularly those specs combined with a 5.2 inch screen.
I'm most interested in the camera. Supposed OIS and laser focus. That's leaps and bounds ahead of our over powered 21 mp rear shooter that is slow and under par in many ways.
SD slut is nice too
I'm very torn. Nexus 6P is not for me, just too big. Nexus 5X is a disappointment all around. None of the other Verizon offerings are of any interest to me.
Turbo 2 seems to be a minimal upgrade. I was really hoping for 4GB of RAM and Stereo Speakers
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Hi.
GSMArena have just published a 1v1 review of the Galaxy S 3 and HTC One X. I can't link to it unfortunately but go and have a read.
As expected, the Galaxy S 3 does just about win in every key area, however it's marginal most of the time.
Unfortunately marginal victories don't convince me as the S 3 just looks (and apparently feels) awful.
How about you?
Not a huge difference to the average user.
Thus, I will go for looks over performance when performance is of a negligible difference.
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Not a huge difference to the average user.
Thus, I will go for looks over performance when performance is of a negligible difference.
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Quite.
The amount of times I'll enjoy the feel and design of my device will dwarf the amount of times I'll care if the camera is a tiny bit better or if a web page loads 000.1 second faster.
Samsung would be on to a real winner if they actually got some good designers in though. Strange.
Here's the link
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759.php
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No way I'll get rid of my One X! Maybe I might (a very HUGE might) get the SGS3 because I think I have OCD lol. But not gonna replace my One X. The One X looks better I reckon. Just my 2 cents.
But is it better, really? It's a very personal opinion as both devices are super powerful and also very similar. However, I take IPS over amoled every day of the week, so for me the choice is easy, and on top of that the HOX just looks so much better. The two only upsides of s3 are sd-card and bigger battery. How much more battery time it has is to be seen.
Edit: If S3 had an A15 cpu instead, then the choice would've been harder. But I would've probably kept my hox till the next flagship was to be released, of any brand.
PenTile, PenTile, PenTile. I was waiting for the new Galaxy to be announced before making my decision on which handset to get. I love the amazing specs/performance on the GS3 and even though the handset itself is ugly and typical plasticky Samsung... I could have lived with that for the other perks, like bigger, removeable battery and expandable storage. Software doesn't matter since it wouldn't be staying stock for very long anyway. But a cheap PenTile matrix display is an absolute dealbreaker for me.
I know all the previews and hands-ons of the GS3 say it doesn't make any difference at that resolution... but it DOES. At least for me it does. Maybe these reviewers just don't notice it or aren't bothered by it, but experience tells me if I get a handset with a PenTile display, I will cringe every time I look at it. I hated it on my Desire, I hate it on my N9 (though thankfully I didn't buy that handset for everyday use) and I hate it on my colleague's Galaxy Nexus (which has a similar resolution to the GS3).
So, after seeing that... HOX it is for me.
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PenTile, PenTile, PenTile. I was waiting for the new Galaxy to be announced before making my decision on which handset to get. I love the amazing specs/performance on the GS3 and even though the handset itself is ugly and typical plasticky Samsung... I could have lived with that for the other perks, like bigger, removeable battery and expandable storage. Software doesn't matter since it wouldn't be staying stock for very long anyway. But a cheap PenTile matrix display is an absolute dealbreaker for me.
I know all the previews and hands-ons of the GS3 say it doesn't make any difference at that resolution... but it DOES. At least for me it does. Maybe these reviewers just don't notice it or aren't bothered by it, but experience tells me if I get a handset with a PenTile display, I will cringe every time I look at it. I hated it on my Desire, I hate it on my N9 (though thankfully I didn't buy that handset for everyday use) and I hate it on my colleague's Galaxy Nexus (which has a similar resolution to the GS3).
So, after seeing that... HOX it is for me.
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The pentile they're using isn't bad at all.
I knew the SIII would have an overall edge over the One X seeing as it was coming to market after it, thinking otherwise would have just been plain stupid but I've never really liked the Samsung UI style and I'm not too keen on the look of the phone.
I don't think there's enough of a difference between the two phones to make me switch, plus the One X in my opinion looks way nicer and I'm fickle when it comes to looks
I'm definitely disappointed in the photo and video quality though. Samsung videos definitely look better.
Also, all the talk about the Pentile screen and excuses such as "making a Super AMOLED Plus HD screen just isnt possible" but then this phone comes along with a better screen than the "Flagship" SIII. Looks like maybe Samsung want to ditch Android for their own OS? Its a developer phone but it still has a better screen than the SIII!!!
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9500_fraser-4752.php
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Everyone said that about about the GNex as well and I was THIS close to buying one when it was released, but positive reports from third parties don't match what my eyes see when I look at my colleague's Nexus.
I'm not saying it's going to be a big deal for everyone. I imagine whether or not it's a problem comes down to the individual looking at the screen. But having seen a GNex in person (with a similar display) and used PenTile in the past... no dice
Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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The pentile really isn't that bad, yea some edges look a bit more jagged, but you have to put the thing right up in your face. At such high resolutions on both phones, half an arms length away from your face and they will look nearly the same.
The biggest thing for me is the removable battery and the battery performance.
Damn, it even won in 3G talk time.......wtf? I thought the companion core was used for the talk time which is why it got such high scores. But the GS3 still managed to beat it out.
I put everything down to bad optimization on HTC and Nvidia's part. How the hell are you going to lose in web browser to SAMOLED? SAMOLED eats battery like no other on all white colors, and the video playback is horrendous. Companion core should be used for video playback and that Nvidia prism technology crap which is supposed to increase battery life by like idk whatever they said 100%? I don't remember.
Either way, it's a case of HTC Sense and software being un-optimized and not mature vs Samsung software being what it does best. It works and does it efficiently producing good results.
I'm still keeping my One X though, design and build it wins hands down IMO. GS3 isn't a big upgrade either over HOX. Software just sucks and needs to be better, too immature when ICS has been out for like half a year already.
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Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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I don't think HTC and Samsung might've done enough.
Granted, that LG phone is going to come pretty late.....Quad-core Krait are pretty far off from the roadmap and the upcoming Sony flagship with Krait Pro (should come earlier) will give Tegra 3 and Exynos 4 a run for their money. Design and camera should be very nice also.
Sony really looks to be getting on track now, especially considering how far they've fallen in every sector besides Playstation.
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Hmm, not really. The closing of the article summed it up best...
"Anyway, back to where we started. Two superphones, one Android crown. The HTC One X managed to come to the market first, while the Galaxy S III is a little late, but has plenty to show for it. We're tempted to play it safe and split it equal. The HTC One X: this is what a droid flagship should look like. The Samsung Galaxy S III: that's what a droid flagship should perform like. But that won't be fair to either of them. They didn't get where they are by playing it safe.
It seems obvious that the Samsung Galaxy S III wouldn't have raised as the new standard-setter without a powerful challenger like the One X. There's no consolation prize here, no second-best. A fair fight and a win-win for Android."
Some other things that struck me as relevant...
"The HTC One X is encased in a polycarbonate unibody (Gray or Black), which is matte in appearance and pleasant to the touch. The Samsung Galaxy S III is covered in glossy plastic (with Blue brushed metal look or pure white), which is durable, but not quite as nice to hold. We're not impressed by its looks either.
"On the other hand, Samsung's design allows you to change the battery allowig you to use a spare one to extend battery life or replace an old burnt-out battery with a fresh new one. Oh, and there's a microSD card slot too. Not that HTC couldn't have put a card slot into the One X, they just decided that 32GB should be enough for everyone (and it probably is)."
"Of course, not all of them are deciders. The S-Voice is a direct take on Siri, but it really fails to live up to expectations, while the NFC-based media sharing over S Beam has limited application for now. Pop-up play will rarely be used while Buddy photo share borders on useless."
So what does it come down to? Personal preference.
1) Is a removable battery and SD card slot important? Buy the SGS3.
2) Is design, construction, and feel in the hand important? Buy the One X.
3) Is low light picture and video important? Buy the One X.
4) Are more detailed pictures in bright light important? Buy the SGS3.
5) Do you like the vivid (I'm being kind) colors of AMOLED? Buy the SGS3.
6) Do you like a brighter, non-PenTile display, with more accurate color and better detailing? Buy the One X.
7) Want a better browsing experience and more audio and video codec support? Buy the SGS3.
8) Are you an avid gamer that'll be pushing the CPU and GPU regularly? Buy the SGS3.
9) Do you like TouchWiz? Buy the SGS3.
10) Do you like Sense? Buy the One X.
11) Do you listen to lossless audio over $300+ headphones or a home system that cost several thousand dollars? Pick the SGS3.
There's other differences that may matter to people but those are the main ones. I knew the SGS3 would benchmark better than the One X when I bought it. The reality is, as it stands today, the power of Teg3, S4, and Exynos-Quad are wasted because the OS and apps aren't able to tap their power. Other than bragging rights you'd be hard pressed to tell them apart performance wise; they'll "feel" the same.
My views on the main features...
1) I like the LCD2 display on the One X. After using AMOLED for a year the realistic colors, the lighter look because black backgrounds aren't used to save battery, and increased display brightness are all nice for a change.
2) The One X camera h/w is better than the SGS3's. It shows in low light settings. I'm hoping s/w tuning in future updates makes it a better all-around performer. I wouldn't ditch the One X over the camera as they don't strike me as that dramatically different from each other.
3) Audiophiles probably never considered the One X once it was announced that the SGS3 has a Wolfson DAC. An audiophile would cut off their arm before listening to compressed formats like MP3's or on anything less than high grade equipment. That makes 95% of us “non-audiophiles.” And a real audiophile would question the use of something like a smartphone as an audio output device anyway.
4) Did anyone who bought the One X not know in advance it had fixed storage and a non-replaceable battery? I'd like those features; I think anyone would. But I really like the design of the One X and if it had to look like the SGS3 in order to have them I'd pass.
5) Other than the graphics issues which are big, the One X's launch has been pretty typical from a QC perspective. I'll bet anyone here the SGS3 launch looks the same (sans graphics issues) and that display consistency will be one of the biggest *****es on their forum. The SGS2 and GN launches were far from great.
So, the short answer to OP's question, nothing in that review has changed my opinion of the One X. Look at it this way, the SGS2 crushed the Sensation. In less than a year HTC launched a phone that made GSMArena consider splitting the win. That alone is pretty impressive. Of course, YMMV and I clearly don’t expect everyone to agree with some of my comments.
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I personally agree with everything you said SD cards aren't a problem for me though, 16gb currently and only half filled - that's with a few shows/music and stuff my only worry about the One X is the price of replacing the battery - my brother might want it after my contract finish and the battery will have degraded a bit by then.
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Here's the real competition:
http://briefmobile.com/lg-ls970-eclipse-coming-with-1-5-ghz-quad-core-krait-cpu
Say what you will about LG, this thing looks deadly.
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The O2X/G2X were probably the worst phones every to be released by a manufacturer. The G2X is the subject of a class action lawsuit in the U.S. because of its putrid performance and sales were halted for three months while LG tried to figure out its problems. After owning one I'll never buy an LG product again. Not even a toaster. "Deadly" is a great choice of words; that's how previous O2X/G2X owners would describe their experiences.
Why is anyone surprised? Samsung is known for having better specs, better optimized software. HTC one x got the looks, SGS3 got the power.
I have let go galaxy note for one x, there is no way I want to go back to samsung
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Why is anyone surprised? Samsung is known for having better specs, better optimized software. HTC one x got the looks, SGS3 got the power.
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If they were women (or men), which one would you want to date? The pretty voluptuous one or the one with child bearing hips?
My OneX will be on eBay once the S3 is available. Main negatives of the OneX for me - no S-Off, poor battery life, cannot remove battery, no ext SD. I use Android phones mainly to try custom ROMs.
Gosh! Yet another boring, unproductive topic by thread stsrter of just 4 posts...!
It's all depends on one's preference and priority for god's sake!
Hi guys,
I would just like to get some feedback regarding the IPS screen on the Nitro. I have been using iPhone 4 for around 2 years and would like to switch to an HD android phone. However I think I am kind of spoiled by the IPS display on the iPhone as it is simply the best I have seen so far. I have compared it with others like SAMOLED+, HD SAMOLED(Pentile) or the SLCD2 and I still find it to be the most comfortable to look at. I dont have a chance to look at the Nitro screen in person as it is not available in Australia so I was thinking I can use some feedback from actual users.
Personally I think the SAMOLEDs are a bit too colorful and the SLCD2 is still a little bit washed-out. I have read some reviews on the internet and it seems like the IPS on the Nitro is not as bright as the one on iPhone but I am not too sure if it is true. So what do you guys think of the screen comparing to the ones on iPhone 4/4s in terms of contrast, brightness and color accuracy?
Thanks heaps!
Max
LG makes the retina display for the iPhone 4/4s. It's the exact same technology in both displays, with the same ppi, but the Nitro has a higher resolution.
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Actually the Nitro has a slightly higher ppi than the iPhone 4/s.
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Actually the Nitro has a slightly higher ppi than the iPhone 4/s.
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iPhone 4/4S is 330ppi and Nitro HD is 326ppi (based on GSMarena.com's calculations anyway). Although small rounding errors would give different results. It's negligible in any case.
The display is phenomenal, but it's the software running the display that will make you scratch your head. Gingerbread isn't optimized to run a display of this resolution. There is banding on gradients and certain times you will look at the screen and make you doubt it.
However, when ICS hits, it'll all be cleared up. It's still the best display that I've sen on an Android phone yet. I returned my Galaxy Nexus for this phone. There is no replacement for sharpness and color accuracy, both of which this phone has.
If coming from an iPhone, you won't be disappointed.
The ppi is definitely negligible, but as a former iPhone 4 user myself, I can assure you the Nitro HD's screen is just as great with the added benefit of being large enough for true HD. I wouldn't ever take an iPhone again. Way too small.
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The ppi is definitely negligible, but as a former iPhone 4 user myself, I can assure you the Nitro HD's screen is just as great with the added benefit of being large enough for true HD. I wouldn't ever take an iPhone again. Way too small.
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Yea that's exactly the same reason I am switching to android. If the screen is indeed the same quality then I will be very happy to get a Nitro or maybe wait for the Optimus LTE2 as I dont like the Tegra 3 on the 4X.
The coming iPhone 5 is better. If you want to taste ICS android, LTE2 is perfect, for its longer battery life.
I'm getting out of patience with charging the batterys.
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I`ve read once that ah-ips is in fact a AFFS matrix. Can anyone proove that or is it wrong?
One interesting variation of IPS is the AH-IPS architecture developed by LG Display. This type of IPS panel uses the AFFS (advanced fringe field switching).
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I found AFFS type matrix in only 1 phone in whole world and it is Nokia 5530 2.9"
AFFS panels are mostly utilized in the cockpits of latest commercial aircraft displays. Seems like ours display is only on par to expensive commercial aircraft ones and not to some cheap $h1t pentile amoleds
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The coming iPhone 5 is better. If you want to taste ICS android, LTE2 is perfect, for its longer battery life.
I'm getting out of patience with charging the batterys.
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eh?
what does the "coming iphone 5 is better." mean? of course it will be better, that's the point. why would it be worse? worse than what? the 4? a blackberry? smoke signals?
BUT- it's all rumor and speculation at this point and the screen size is a guess too.
not to mention, it's a year away and no one has even guessed how it will address lte and batt issues with that.
bottomline: certainly a smart phone released a year from now should be better than any phone on the market today.
next, the lte2 is perfect for what? op isn't in korea. and its longer batt life is based primarily on the larger batt, and from what Ive gathered, not on any real sw tweaks.
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longer batt life is based primarily on the larger batt, and from what Ive gathered, not on any real sw tweaks.
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longer batt life due to S4 Krait based on 28nm, and therefor way too cooler than ours Scorpion, and secondly radio chip is inside of S4 so helps reduce power. Seems like I've get lte2 in my hands sooner than at&t will bring official ICS to light
for LTE2 there's own tread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1635089
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longer batt life due to S4 Krait based on 28nm, and therefor way too cooler than ours Scorpion, and secondly radio chip is inside of S4 so helps reduce power. Seems like I've get lte2 in my hands sooner than at&t will bring official ICS to light
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i've read the thread, hell i commented in it weeks ago.
but I tend not to buy into the marketing that the lte2 is automatically better at handling the battery, i'll wait for some testing.
on the other hand, a batt ~350mAh bigger is an obvious difference.
not saying the phone won't include some break-through batt tech that solves the problem of battery power, but i've yet to see any proof and i tend to distance myself from the pre-release marketing.
The screen on my LG Spectrum is phenomenal when compared to my old AMOLED DROID Incredible. I've also compared my screen to the screen of friends' iPhone 4s and 4Ss. So long as the brightness is roughly equivalent, the LG Spectrum comes out ahead because it is true HD.
Watching Netflix on my phone in HD is awesome and everyone I've shown it to is exceedingly impressed. Even iPhone owners.
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This is exactly why I chose lg nitro for my upgrade. I compared displays of samsung, htc, moto razr and iphone. Samsung colors looked non-uniform on the blue side. Moto razr is, well, not much to write home about. Htc, not good either. Iphone's display is very good and normalised and it looks more effective with appke's aesthetic design wrapped around it. But I am an iphone hater (like mac though).
First thing that stands out with Nitro is it's display. Very clear and even. But it's design is same old plastic and mmmehhh..still chose the phone because the display is the best in the current android crop and too good to pass. Put the leaked ics, not the cm9, and you have a neat package. Also, as previous user of cm9, a big shout out to them, they gave the nitro community the first taste of ics which is greatly appreciated.
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This is exactly why I chose lg nitro for my upgrade. I compared displays of samsung, htc, moto razr and iphone. Samsung colors looked non-uniform on the blue side. Moto razr is, well, not much to write home about. Htc, not good either. Iphone's display is very good and normalised and it looks more effective with appke's aesthetic design wrapped around it. But I am an iphone hater (like mac though).
First thing that stands out with Nitro is it's display. Very clear and even. But it's design is same old plastic and mmmehhh..still chose the phone because the display is the best in the current android crop and too good to pass. Put the leaked ics, not the cm9, and you have a neat package. Also, as previous user of cm9, a big shout out to them, they gave the nitro community the first taste of ics which is greatly appreciated.
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Is there actually a noticeable difference between CM9 and the leak in terms of display?
Aside from the random blue flash on CM9 and considering my limited time on the leak (~an hour), I'd say no.
The leak is more fluid and customised. But the major positive is the battery life. I had to recharge twice a day using cm9. Now with the leaked version the phone still has some juice left end of the day.
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I agree... in order to get decent battery life out of CM9 I've had to switch over to hspa+ and use SetCPU to reduce my CPU speed while the screen is off, as well as manage my wifi well.
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ARe you freezing anything or implementing any other tweaks to stock that are giving you this great battery life? I'm not nearly that good when I've tried the leak.
I got rid of all the bloatware. Helped battery life tons
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Quoting this: reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/28gmpd/a_letter_to_lg_lg_g3_mini_wishlist
can't link because I'm too new... ^
Anyone agree? Thoughts?
The G3 is a great phone, but for the logical and rational people out there who value more than specs on paper, or aren't sold on the stupid-high resolution and its pitfalls, what would you like to see in a G3 Mini? I think this is a grand opportunity for LG to make the first "mini" phone that doesn't need to suffer from sub-par specs.
If anyone from LG is reading this, your high-resolution display is actually the main reason I will NOT be buying the G3, next to being slightly too large. I own a G2 which I find is already pushing it.
The high-resolution display is just not worth these pitfalls:
BATTERY: Life is good, but could have been even better with a 1080p display; or could use a smaller battery resulting in lower cost for the device
HEAT: Device runs hotter because of the power draw on the display. When phones get hot, the processor underclocks itself. This is why phones often get laggy when they get hot; 1080p would be at MUCH lower risk, if at all
COST: No doubt that the R&D (optimizations) to pull off this high resolution will make the device more expensive; 1440p display materials also certainly drive the cost up over 1080p
I respect LG for this technological feat, but it really only appeals to the nutty enthusiasts who get off just knowing they are running high specs, or the uninformed masses who are just too dumb to know. I know there is not much else to compete on in the smartphone space, so please bring a Mini that doesn't suck.
Here is my wishlist for a potentially perfect phone (LG G3 Mini), and it's quite simple.
1080p
5", but keeping the same sexy dimensions, materials, and design
Smaller battery is understandable since there will be less power draw
Keep the other key specs the same! (camera, Snapdragon, RAM)
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What he said, but with the same sized battery. The screen size/quality is the one downside for me with this phone, too.
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What he said, but with the same sized battery. The screen size/quality is the one downside for me with this phone, too.
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I think he hits it right on too for the most part. Might battery life be almost TOO good with a 1080p display? Thing would run for days and days. On a smaller device there might not be as much space for it.
5' 1080 screen, everything else the same (okay to nudge the battery down slightly if necessary, due to the smaller package).
I don't want mini performance, simply a smaller screen/package. I really don't want 5.5 screen, I have a 7" tablet with BT kbd/mouse for things that take more real estate.
I want compact, not mini. Mostly because mine is a excuse for selling low performance for premium dollar..
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I think he hits it right on too for the most part. Might battery life be almost TOO good with a 1080p display? Thing would run for days and days. On a smaller device there might not be as much space for it.
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5' 1080 screen, everything else the same (okay to nudge the battery down slightly if necessary, due to the smaller package).
I don't want mini performance, simply a smaller screen/package. I really don't want 5.5 screen, I have a 7" tablet with BT kbd/mouse for things that take more real estate.
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The G2 is a smaller package and it has the same size battery.
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The G2 is a smaller package and it has the same size battery.
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It does, but because it's not removable.
The Korean G2, which has a removable battery, is only 2600mAH instead of the 3000 of the international version.And surprisingly enough, it makes a big difference in battery time (or maybe it's because the firmware is different?)
I love the G3 (I mean I'm ready to love it, as I don't have it yet), but I think it's slightly too big for me. A G3 compact with the same size as the G2, only a bit thinner would be ideal (G2 is the perfect size for me). While retaining the removable battery and SD slot of course...
Looks like our dreams will not come true...
hXXp://au.ibtimes.com/articles/556365/20140620/lg-g3-mini-india.htm
The recently leaked LG G3 Mini specifications also include a 5 megapixel rear-facing camera unit and a 1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 processor. In addition, the LG G3 Mini will come with 8 GB of internal storage.
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Snapdragon 400
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Looking forward to Moto X successor.
In other words, the LG G2 is the true LG G3 Mini while the LG G3 Mini is a budget POS.
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Looks like our dreams will not come true...
hXXp://au.ibtimes.com/articles/556365/20140620/lg-g3-mini-india.htm
Looking forward to Moto X successor.
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I'm also looking forward to that. My next phone is either going to be the G3 or the Moto X+1, but that really depends on the X+1. Can't wait to get some real news on it. Hopefully it has a battery to die for.
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My next phone is either going to be the G3 or the Moto X+1, but that really depends on the X+1. Can't wait to get some real news on it. Hopefully it has a battery to die for.
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I'm starting to wonder if the X+1 will have native Android L which should automatically give it 20-40% battery life improvement. Looks like August is a solid date. I hope they can deliver where the G3 failed.
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I'm starting to wonder if the X+1 will have native Android L which should automatically give it 20-40% battery life improvement. Looks like August is a solid date. I hope they can deliver where the G3 failed.
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Coming from the Note 2, I'm impressed with the screen size to phone size ratio. One thing that has bothered me, is how small the LED notification indicator light is. Can barely tell if it's blinking or not. Might just be me, but I loved how easy it was to see the LED notification on the Note 2.
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Coming from the Note 2, I'm impressed with the screen size to phone size ratio. One thing that has bothered me, is how small the LED notification indicator light is. Can barely tell if it's blinking or not. Might just be me, but I loved how easy it was to see the LED notification on the Note 2.
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I thought after the Moto X, everyone would jump on the ActiveDisplay. Motorola must have a patent on it or other manufacturers are still blind to the great value it adds. LED notifications feel archaic after using a Moto X.
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I thought after the Moto X, everyone would jump on the ActiveDisplay. Motorola must have a patent on it or other manufacturers are still blind to the great value it adds. LED notifications feel archaic after using a Moto X.
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Good point. Haven't really explored Moto phones too much, but that's some very useful/practical tech.
I'm surprised almost half the voters believe that 5.5" is more practical than 5" for a smartphone!
Looks like the newly announced 5" G3 Beat will be as good as it gets for us. Not ideal specs, but I'd still take 720p over 1440p any day. If they had made it 1080p, snap 801, and same camera, this would have made it to my shortlist.
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I'm surprised almost half the voters believe that 5.5" is more practical than 5" for a smartphone!
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Imo it is. 5" is too small
Looks like we have a winner!
LG G3 A
Essentially a G3 but 5.2"/1080p! My only wish is that they'd made it 5" or smaller, but looks like this is as close as we're gonna get.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/07/lg-g3-a/
I am interested to know if the quad HD display was a buying factor for you guys or instead it was a deal breaker? ; Personally for me I find the Lg G3 great (I wanted to buy the G2 last year but there's no sd-card slot and removable battery) but the quadHD display is a deal breaker for me : it eats battery, increase temperature, reduced brightness and performance and you can hardly notice a diff between 1080p and 2k.
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At first it was a huge factor since it was a rare upgrade to 1080p. The 1440p screen was only seemingly noticeable when first viewing it but in hindsight I realize there was no added detail in things like web viewing. Even the extra pixel detail in 2k videos is a bit too squashed to fully realize its clarity. I also bought it for what I thought would be speed, performance and battery life. It really hasn't lived up to anything except its design aesthetic. To me its just my smartphone now and not my top of the line smartphone. I can only hope future Android updates will improve the performance of this phone since it really has some amazing specs and is more than capable of delivering a good user experience.
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At first it was a huge factor since it was a rare upgrade to 1080p. The 1440p screen was only seemingly noticeable when first viewing it but in hindsight I realize there was no added detail in things like web viewing. Even the extra pixel detail in 2k videos is a bit too squashed to fully realize its clarity. I also bought it for what I thought would be speed, performance and battery life. It really hasn't lived up to anything except its design aesthetic. To me its just my smartphone now and not my top of the line smartphone. I can only hope future Android updates will improve the performance of this phone since it really has some amazing specs and is more than capable of delivering a good user experience.
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I love the design too but performance looks pretty poor and I don't think updates will fix it... it is limited because of that 2k display, which tbh is just a gimmick.
Note 4 is rumoured to be a 2k display which will use the snapdragon 804 which lead to believe snapdragon 801 is not really meant for 2k display in the first place.
So what phone are you looking to buy? S3 S4 Sony SP G2 or G3
Your recent posts are very interesting!
For me the QHD display wasn't a selling point or a deal breaker for me when considering the G3. The other device I was considering was the Xperia Z2 but I was ultimately put off the Z2 by how insistent Sony was in releasing a replacement every 6 months (and lo and behold, its being announced in a week or so). What I liked the look of about the G3 was the fact it was pretty much the only Android phone left with OIS (something I really appreciated on my HTC One and was crestfallen when they removed it from the M8) and that it had a removable battery in a body that actually looked and felt (surprisingly) premium while having a larger display in a similar sized body to other flagships.
Concerning the display, I don't feel that the 1440p resolution is a bad idea. Whether we like it or not, this is where all mobile devices (flagships atleast) will be heading towards very soon, so to be an early adopter will always have teething problems. I think that the Snapdragon 801 is not the problem here that the performance "issues" people are experiencing are down to the software and restrictions put in place to control heat (which can be disabled but frankly, LG should try and focus on improving in this area and build their phones to a slightly higher standard, I guess this is probably the reason why you can find LG's flagships for 2/3 the price of competitors after a few months, there is evidently some cost cutting going on somewhere). Also coming from the One M7, while its display was fantastic (brilliant whites, spot on colours, great viewing angles), the G3's display is really not that much worse, my observations picking up that its not as bright (but still usable outside) and the whites do look a faint greyer. But the tiny bezels on the G3 are a worth it over those small niggles for me.
As much as I have enjoyed my G3 over the last month and a half, my biggest issue with the G3 is the locked bootloader and LG's reluctance to embrace third party developer practises. Many other OEMs such as Sony, HTC and Motorola now offer bootloader unlock processes for their devices, while LG is being far from transparent regarding the issue with mixed messages coming from various channels of communication. Hopefully with the G3 being a sales success for them, this may get them to reconsider.
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So what phone are you looking to buy? S3 S4 Sony SP G2 or G3
Your recent posts are very interesting!
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still not sure... but it seems most probably i will break the bank and get a s5 although i like the g3 but too many issues
I'm so confused as to which nexus to pick. I like the screensize of the 5x but the specs on 6p are better. I want a high end phone but at the same time i don't want a phablet. What are you guys going for?
If you do not consider screen size when deciding which model to get you will be disappointed in the long run.
I'm going for the 5x. I have the moto 6 atm
I can't decide either. I prefer IPS LCD displays rather than AMOLED displays because the exaggerated colors on AMOLED displays!
In the other hand 6p has more battery capacity with lower screen size than N6! And a nice metal design! I don't care that much about their cpu/gpu or ram specifications.
Other thing is storage size, I need more than 32gb. I prefer 64gb with atleast a reasonable price.
I am going with the 5x if it has a notification LED. Otherwise I will stick with my 2013 Nexus 5 for another year. I need a device with a robust notification system and nothing beats a customizable light for that. I can tell from across a room what notification my phone has and at work that is priceless as I cannot continually be using my phone. The ambient display of the nexus 6 is not good enough. The notifications time out/turn off after a period of time and aren't customizable in any way.
The 6P is too big for me. It may as well be a Note or whatever.
Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/
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Add an option for neither. I think you'll be surprised on how many people will pass on these phones.
N5X - too little RAM, too small battery, a bit pricey for what it offers.
N6P - a phablet that many people don't want to deal with the size of, SD810 processor known for overheating and throttling, destroying performance. Very fair price for 32GB version, although we can put that down to the fact it's carrying specs which most flagships have had for the last 6-8mths, so you're really buying in the middle of a generation-cycle.
I was originally going to go for the N5X to replace my N5, but the next phone I buy has to have GREAT battery life. It doesn't matter to me what Google has done with their new 'Doze' feature to extend standby time, this N5X will not get more than 3hrs SOT, guaranteed. So it's a 'No' from me. Guess I'll keep waiting/looking :-/
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I think you're pretty spot on here. I was hoping for a spec bump on the 5X as a excuse to Swappa out the M9 for a N5X, however it would basically be a spec downgrade at this point, or a spec match on the 6P, in which case, probably not worth the hassle. Guess I'll just be waiting until the next round of phones in Spring 2016!
Also, for the record, I've had very little issue with the 810's performance on the M9. There was a large update that worked towards mitigating some of the throttling, and the phone still has plenty of juice while warm. I wouldn't consider it a poor chip by any means, and do not let this dissuade you if you are set on a 6P!
I ditched my Nexus 6 due to its AMOLED display. My eyes were burning from its over-saturated colors.
But I now i want to go with 6P. I already spent quite a time with LG's N4 and N5. Huawei's turn.
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It has been confirmed that the 5X has an LED notification light, this was a big concern of mine too.
I really don't want a 6 inch (or 5.7) phone. i have the GS5 right now and still think it's too big. I have yet to own a nexus phone so i'm thinking purely based on screen size that i'll go with the 5X. Not too concerned about 2GB of ram, and i think the 808 will do just fine with vanilla M. I am bummed about no wireless charging, i added it to the GS5 even though it made the back quite bigger, but USB C will be nice.
I would've gone with the 5 if it had a 64GB and 3GB ram option.
The battery I think is fine since my current 5.7 QHD Moto X as a 3000Mah battery which gets bout 4hrs SOT so I think a 2700 on a 5.2" display should be fine.
The storage and ram really bothered me and it's shame for N5 users since it' barely an upgrade.
I did go with the 6P,I worry about the 810 since I also got a chance to use the OPT and wasn't impressed
I went with the 5X 16 gig. I stream everything (thanks Verizon unlimited) and really don't use a ton of apps. All my photos get instantly backed up to Google Photos so I can just delete them from my phone whenever.
Not even remotely worried about performance and any phone has a better camera than my Moto X 2013 that I use now. If I want really nice pics I'll bring my Sony point and shoot along.
I'm a short dude. I have no idea how I'd fit the 6P in my jeans pocket this winter. And I don't even wear skinny jeans.
The only thing I'm bummed about is the lack of cables that come with the phone. No C to A cable included AND the wall charger cable isn't detachable. Weak.
I really, really wanted to want the 5X. I love my Nexus 4. I like the LG company. But with $80 getting me another GB of faster ram, metal build, larger battery, faster charging, and (the big one) better graphics, I had to go with the 6P.
I wanted something N4/iphone 6 size though. If it's too large for me I will return it.
I went with 5X 16g as well. I have no need for extra space, I usually move my photo and video to NAS. As far as for music, I stream them online. LG is the company I trust since N4 to my current N5. A Chinese run company? I don't know??? Time will change my mind.
I went with the 5X because I currently have an LG G3 (which is almost the exact same size despite having a larger screen) and the screen size is at the limits of what I can use one-handed. The monstrous size of the 6P is just too big for me.
this is my first High end phone; i took the 5X 16Gio!
I took it because I thought is was more ecological than buying a Android phone, a Ubuntu phone and a FirefoxOS phone... The N5 couls run all these OS, I really hope the N5X does!
I am quite disappointed though, I thought it was a 3.1 USB port and thus could accept a keyboard and a screen...
Of course most of us want the highest spec'd device, that's normal. I want a more compact size phone (not phablet sized) and for it to perform the way I want (no matter what the specs are) with the latest greatest stock Google software updates. I want a good phone camera. I believe the 5X is the best choice. The 5X is going to scream
I don't watch movies listen to music or play games on my phone so the 16g 5x is plenty for me but I did order the 32g blue ice
One factor to consider in the US is that the 6P supports LTE band 30 whereas the 5X does not. LTE 30 is a new band supported by AT&T.
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yeah i ended up ordering the 5x but it is tough to cough up the money for it considering you get so much more phone in the 6p for a little bit more money, keeping in mind that the two are from completely different kinds of companies.
100% of my decision came down to size. I just dont think there is ever a need for a phablet.
I do wish the quick charge was better (i hear that the 6p quick charges much more quickly)
amoled makes more sense for ambient display which is a must for me coming from a moto x dev
and that 240fps video of the hummingbird is delicious
all the other stuff about storage is a non issue. This is what cloud services are for
and 2gb ram should be plenty. If more performance is needed, this needs to be done on the software side. its like worrying about horsepower in a car and ignoring weight.
I chose the nexus 5x. It was what we N5 users wanted on the first place. Just an updated N5, we kept on saying that we just need a better camera, and better battery and of course updated specs(but not the best), for only a little bit higher than the price of the original N5. If anything, google actually listened to their customers.
I think google screwed themselves over for releasing two phones at the same time, giving customers too many options creates anguish.
Question, if google only released N5x and you had no knowledge about 6p, would you still have your doubts?