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Hey all. I am looking to upgrade to the Note 4. I have used my Note 3 T- mobile version on AT&T for the past year which had an unlocked bootloader so it got root and custom recovery almost right away. Did it really take 6 months to just get root on the ATT version of the Note 3? And if so, what are the chances it will take that long again?
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drmacrofish said:
Hey all. I am looking to upgrade to the Note 4. I have used my Note 3 T- mobile version on AT&T for the past year which had an unlocked bootloader so it got root and custom recovery almost right away. Did it really take 6 months to just get root on the ATT version of the Note 3? And if so, what are the chances it will take that long again?
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No one will work on it. Even with a bounty no one really seemed to care about getting root on the N3, we all just gave up hope when suddenly GeoHot swooped in with towelroot totally surprising everyone, but this was months later. There are still no custom ROMs and with safestrap development going away it just seems there is little incentive to root, especially when it's possible we may get the L upgrade in the spring.
But we won't know until the phones are released. Maybe there is a simple exploit and we get lucky, maybe not and we wait months or forever and it never gets rooted.
Oh wow. I didn't realize the ATT version didn't get root till towelroot. Man, that was forever. I am debating getting the Note 4 on T mobile, but to get it right away may be a pain, plus I don't think I will be able to get the 200$ off from Samsung if I go that route. I kinda want to just buy the phone outright and 200$ off is pretty nice.
Maybe I will just go with the ATT version and see how it goes and if development sucks and I really want to root or run custom ROMS I could always sell it in the future and get a T mobile one later....
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drmacrofish said:
Oh wow. I didn't realize the ATT version didn't get root till towelroot. Man, that was forever. I am debating getting the Note 4 on T mobile, but to get it right away may be a pain, plus I don't think I will be able to get the 200$ off from Samsung if I go that route. I kinda want to just buy the phone outright and 200$ off is pretty nice.
Maybe I will just go with the ATT version and see how it goes and if development sucks and I really want to root or run custom ROMS I could always sell it in the future and get a T mobile one later....
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I believe it did have Root when it was first released. But the update to KK fixed that root exploit, that's when we waited 5 or so months before towelroot came out. So the smart guys didn't update to KK, of course I was one of the stupid ones who did upgrade and I remember painfully waiting for root. Most of us had given up and assumed it would never happen, then literally one day GeoHot released towelroot with no warning at all.
I had the Tmobile one preordered, but I am pretty sure I'm going to cancel it and go with the ATT one. I'm reading here and there of reception and LTE issues with the Tmobile one on the Note 3 and really don't want to deal with that as my phone actually working is much more important than being rooted. I'll miss root greatly, but if I want to stay with ATT I guess that's the price I pay. And maybe we get lucky and a root pops up. Otherwise the only things I'm missing are titanium, and xposed which I mainly use for the multi windows module. I don't bother flashing custom ROM's so don't really care about that.
It did have root at launch and even with the first update. However for those who took the KK update, they were stuck until towelroot.
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I believe it did have Root when it was first released. But the update to KK fixed that root exploit, that's when we waited 5 or so months before towelroot came out. So the smart guys didn't update to KK, of course I was one of the stupid ones who did upgrade and I remember painfully waiting for root. Most of us had given up and assumed it would never happen, then literally one day GeoHot released towelroot with no warning at all.
I had the Tmobile one preordered, but I am pretty sure I'm going to cancel it and go with the ATT one. I'm reading here and there of reception and LTE issues with the Tmobile one on the Note 3 and really don't want to deal with that as my phone actually working is much more important than being rooted. I'll miss root greatly, but if I want to stay with ATT I guess that's the price I pay. And maybe we get lucky and a root pops up. Otherwise the only things I'm missing are titanium, and xposed which I mainly use for the multi windows module. I don't bother flashing custom ROM's so don't really care about that.
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Ok, that makes more sense. That is kinda what I remember now. Had forgotten all that and didn't pay too much attention cause I had the T mobile version. That was with that Root De La Vega or whatever.
Yeah, I am pretty sure I am gonna go with AT&T version at least at first. I can do it through Best Buy that way and get the 200$ instant credit with turning in a phone. Then on top of that hopefully sell my Note 3 and come out pretty good. At least that is the current idea. Will see for sure. At least now I know I don't want the iPhone 6+ after seeing the Note 4 in person.
As to reception issues, yeah, I don't think my Note 3 T mobile version ever got quit as good a signal or data speeds as the ATT note 3 does on AT&T network, which makes sense really. You don't have the ATT modem installed.
I initially had the Note 3 ATT phone too, and then the t mobile one which I got off ebay. I had both at the same time and did do some initial testing. The db signal was close, but not quite as good as the ATT version one was. That I do recall for sure. Not that the t mobile one was horrible, but just not as good. I am not sure about the data speeds however. I guess if you really want to be sure the phone is working the best it can, then better to use the one designed for the network you will use it on.
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The way I figure it is the Tmobile version is almost always cheaper on swappa/ebay. So if I really get sick of the locked bootloader, and also read reports on XDA that there are no reception issues I can always sell my ATT Note 4 and pick up a Tmobile one. Samsung phones seem to drop a bit in value at that 2-3 month mark, that plus the $200 rebate will mean I will prob make money off such a trade. That's the worst case scenario, realistically I'll probably just adjust to no root and keep the ATT one.
...So when are we getting a good root?
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...So when are we getting a good root?
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Probably never.
I bet by the end of this week. Root will be easy, bootloader will not be broken though. I just want my Titanium Backup and Root Explorer so root is all need.
I called a few att stores in my area and each of them said they have them in stock, but cannot sell them... How'd you pull this off?
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I called a few att stores in my area and each of them said they have them in stock, but cannot sell them... How'd you pull this off?
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I just walked in and asked? Ha. And would we not be able to flash custom ROMS? I need my CM11!
You'll never have CM11 on it. Never. But you can use exposed and do other mods. Just no ROMS.
Wow. I guess a lot of things have changed since my old S3.
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Wow. I guess a lot of things have changed since my old S3.
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Exactly. That was the most recent samsung phone I've had where everything was in happy order. But that's why I'm buying t mobile version
They already have root
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Exactly. That was the most recent samsung phone I've had where everything was in happy order. But that's why I'm buying t mobile version
They already have root
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Shoot. I might consider returning it and getting a Nexus 6 then. I never even bothered doing my homework on this, I assumed it would always be possible
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Shoot. I might consider returning it and getting a Nexus 6 then. I never even bothered doing my homework on this, I assumed it would always be possible
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I was surprised when it happened because samsung phones were always so open. Nexus 6 looks good but it's just a big phone with no feature that I know of at least to take advantage if that screen. At least they finally went above 32gb now. But I don't think I'll ever buy an AT&T phone ever again.
I did the same. Walked into an AT&T near me during lunch and got a white Note 4. I wasn't expecting to be able to get one but they are selling them here in Milwaukee.
Much like some of you here, I don't need anything more than root to run titanium and a couple other things. I never understood the idea of getting a note device to throw an AOSP rom on it that negates the S Pen functionality and other Note qualities. Why not just get any other big phone?
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Probably never.
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Why do you say that? Root and bootloader are two completely different things.
Root should be easy and we should get it. Custom recovery on the other hand, probably not.
I'm in Pa and just called my local store, they have them in as well and the guy said I can come get one now. I'M on my way to pick up note 4 also. I'm with u guys just want root for titanium backup and xposed , I really don't flash roms to often anymore.
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You'll never have CM11 on it. Never. But you can use exposed and do other mods. Just no ROMS.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but these custom ROMS don't support the S Pen. If that is true, what use is the ROMS if you can't use the S Pen. That is one major point of the whole note.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but these custom ROMS don't support the S Pen. If that is true, what use is the ROMS if you can't use the S Pen. That is one major point of the whole note.
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The S Pen was never a real selling point for me. HTCs have bad cameras, LGs have have horrible reliability from mine/my buddies experience with the G2 and the Note is still the spec king. I could definitely get behind a Nexus though.
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I did the same. Walked into an AT&T near me during lunch and got a white Note 4. I wasn't expecting to be able to get one but they are selling them here in Milwaukee.
Much like some of you here, I don't need anything more than root to run titanium and a couple other things. I never understood the idea of getting a note device to throw an AOSP rom on it that negates the S Pen functionality and other Note qualities. Why not just get any other big phone?
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Which store did you go to? I tried at the Greenfield store on 76th and Layton but they said they will start selling it on the 17th.
I don't mind touchwiz myself and if you haven't played with a note 4 in store you might be pretty happy with touchwiz this time around, its snappy and actually doesn't look nearly as bad as it used to. Can just install nova or google now launcher if it is that bothersome though from a UI perspective. Setting wise I think Samsung offers more a better features than aosp.
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I got the Note 4 in Pasadena, they had 5 white and 2 black. They are technically not suppose to sell them until Friday, but all the corp stores got them. It took a bit of effort to get them to admit they had them, and I pulled the corporate partner card on them so they went ahead with it.
Now what sucks is I can't transfer any of my data with titanium backup, I am wondering when root will be available.
I also agree with others here, if you don't need or care for the S-Pen the Nexus 6 is probably the device you want...
So who will be first to release a root?
Hopefully we can get root for now... Maybe we should check out the G3 forum as they got root with the bootloader locked...
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Got mine from a store in Austin today. Just walked in and they said they'd sell it.
I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
So far I have not found any issues. It's been great on my end. Root will come.. It always does
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I bought the T-Mobile version from eBay and received it on Saturday. So far no issues. The only gripe I have is slow charging while using the phone, but I just ordered some quick chargers so I should be good.
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Thus far I am pretty happy with mine. I have noticed that it sometimes interprets a quick swipe as a press (thus opening an app I did not intend) and that, at least on mine, the digitizer may not go all the way to the edge of the screen. The leftmost 1/8" or so of the screen does not appear to register touch input. The right side isn't great either, but does seem better. I have not heard anyone else mention it though, so hopefully it is just my unit.
The only other gripe I have about it for now is that the viewing angle on the screen is pretty narrow. If you aren't looking at the display straight on it tends to get washed out.
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First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Does the international version have all the same bands? I really want to have band 12. WiFi calling is also important to me.
I wanted to buy it through T-Mobile also so I could get it on EIP, but I could just finance it through my parents too.
Where can I buy the international version?
What do you think the probability is that the T-Mobile version will get rooted?
Thanks
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vmartinez39 said:
Happy with mine as well, although I'm using MetroPCS SIM on my phone.
My advice really, hold on to your Nexus 5. I think its gonna be a while before you see any ROMS or unlock the boot loader. I can't go back go my Nexus 5 cause this phone is awesome. It was an impulse purchase.
If ROMS and having the phone fully unlocked for development, please don't buy it. Also the more I use this phone, the more I believe that CM12.1 even when it does hit the LG G4, it will be not running at its full potential. Some little things that Stock has, better camera app, the tap lock and unlock screen, lock screen quick view, I mean little things that the CM12.1 Rom will be missing unless it has access to all the drivers of the phone.
I've never forgiven LG for what they Did to the G2X. This phone is awesome and will have best experience with the Stock ROM. Its Not AOSP, I wish it was but it won't.
Just wait. The main reason I got it was because removable battery and SD card. Can't wait for ZeroLemon to release the batter for LG G4.
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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How do you like the stock ROM? I'm used to using CM but I think I'd be okay with stock too. What is your experience?
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The stock ROM isn't awful. I came from SlimKat (based on CM) and there are definitely some features that I miss (Long press back to kill & double pressing back to switch the the most recent app mostly). But after installing Nova and reducing the DPI (via ADB) it is very workable. I am still holding out hope for root, but with how great the camera is I am not sure I would flash back to an AOSP ROM.
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I am planning on going to the T-Mobile store later today to pick up a new G4, but first I wanted to ask some questions.
First, how long do you think I'll be waiting until I can root/flash ROMs/etc? I can live without these things for a while, but not forever!
Second, are the touchscreen and other issues something that I should seriously consider before getting this phone, or are they not that big of a deal? Are you guys all happy with the battery life?
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Touch issues are fixed by the keyboard update. Just be sure to do all the updates available and you should be right as rain there.
Battery life, I get 28+ hours while streaming Spotify through BT speaker for 12 hours, an hour voice calls, as well as a bunch of other goofing around on the device. It's not Note 4 life, but it's far better than any most other phones I've had.
Root/unlock will come, but it could be a while. Honestly, I like the phone well enough stock to not really be all that worried about it. While I'm sure that some devs could make this a bit snappier by debloating it, the stock UI really is pretty snappy and nice.
Camera is also fantastic. Fast action shots come out clear....close up shots have TONS of detail.
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MicroMod777 said:
I think root will come out by end of summer. If your wanting root soon then don't get the G4. Personally I just suck it up and deal with it.
I've even had horrible dirty bad thoughts of selling my G4 and waking up with a ZenPhone 2 in my hands. Should I pull the trigger? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VWKKEYO/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_7YoIvbGEVV1H6
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ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
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ZenPhone looks nice. I'll bet it's great overall, but I doubt that it'll fully compare to this one in screen quality or camera
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True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
Th3Bill said:
Is that rooted? Checked it out...not much development going no over there...have like 1 ROM thread that was started back in March with not much since.
I'll chill here...looking forward to what does come when this device gets unlocked.
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Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
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Yea, I'd rather wait too, or maybe I can just have both! Wifey will probably kill me! lol
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Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
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Looking at the specs, I'm tempted to try to convince my wife...though I doubt that would go over well for me either haha
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I had to pay a whopping $317 just to get my hands on a G4 through tmo's financing department. At least my monthly payments on it are very low.
But it will cost me $322 shipped for that ZenFone 2! I just want to play with it! lol
The phone is great, few things though, the root and subsequently the ROMs will be limited especially when compared to a nexus or even an S6, I have owned every nexus since the Galaxy nexus and I also owned the LG g3, which was a great phone, but development even to this day just never compared and that's mainly because of the carrier specific versions. So if you really like to try all kinds of different ROMs I suggest getting the Nexus 6 although I would say this phone is much better in my opinion but I miss and will continue to miss the variety of ROMs and customizations from my Nexus 6 as well as the screen and front facing speakers. Biggest benefit over the nexus 6 is the camera as well as the size/design/weight. As far as the battery I highly highly suggest using nova launcher instead of the stock LG and disable the LG apps if you can makes the battery life way way better, also get the free battery and SD card that will help to Haha.
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My only real complaint about this phone is the lack of root.
MicroMod777 said:
True, but I can't stay locked down without root forever while they wait for the bounty to get to $15k. I give it another few weeks for root, or I'm thinking of jumping ship to the ZenFone 2.
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Are they waiting on the bounty to hit $15k or until they can get a solid app with no errors that they can charge for?
I think it's more about the app.
mircury said:
You should never get a phone with the hope of it getting root. It's a bad idea. Root is getting harder and harder to achieve especially with dmverity implemented (Variants of the Note 4 after 9 months still do not have root and most likely never will without a bootloader exploit.) Bootloader exploits are almost non existent. Unfortunately the Tmobile version of this phone has a locked bootloader. You have to also think how long you will have the phone. Are you willing to wait half or more of it's usable life for root?
Get a phone with an unlocked bootloader, then you will never have to worry about it. Get the G4 815 for example or a nexus. I'm running 5.1.1 on my note 3 which would be impossible with a locked bootloader. Unlocked bootloaders will give you a much longer lifespan.
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Well said sir,
I screwed up and bought a Note 4 because of the deal I was getting ($400 outright), I immediately put away my flashaholics LG G2, and head to XDA only to see the At&t Note 4 has no ROMS, Kernels, or TWRP. Could not be more disappointed, a phone that should be a beast is hampered by no root. I would never touch the G4 or any other phone without full permanent root available in first 90 days of retail release. You are better off waiting to see what the new 2015 Moto X, Nexus ??, and OnePlus 2 will offer.
Do you think anyone will create a rooted, non knox, and debloated Verison of android marshmallow for note 4? Using touchwiz of course since aosp is werid
This is what I've been waiting for. I'm giving up hope. I don't think the N4 is gonna get any more love. ?
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The note 4 ain't dead just wait a little it's coming ?
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New odexed debloated/modded PE1 rom is uploading. For those who forget to donate for my efforts... i'm very thirsty.
You'll find it on my AFH later tonight. I will create a n new thread tomorrow if i can remember to do it.
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New odexed debloated/modded PE1 rom is uploading. For those who forget to donate for my efforts... i'm very thirsty.
You'll find it on my AFH later tonight. I will create a n new thread tomorrow if i can remember to do it.
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Thanks man. I'm downloading when i get home later. Good to see a developer who still cares about this phone seems others have went to other carriers/newer phones.
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Thanks man. I'm downloading when i get home later. Good to see a developer who still cares about this phone seems others have went to other carriers/newer phones.
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Honestly i'm perfectly happy with this Note 4. Plus i paid over $350 for it on contract so i want to get my money's worth LOL. I haven't seen a new phone worth upgrading to yet. I'm watching for the new Note 6/7 to see if it will be modder friendly and have an unlocked bootloader. That's what i will switch to next!
tx_dbs_tx said:
Honestly i'm perfectly happy with this Note 4. Plus i paid over $350 for it on contract so i want to get my money's worth LOL. I haven't seen a new phone worth upgrading to yet. I'm watching for the new Note 6/7 to see if it will be modder friendly and have an unlocked bootloader. That's what i will switch to next!
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Yeah, i still owe about 5 more payments on my phone since i wasn't allowed to do a contract. The s7 disappointed me with the locked bootloader. Hoping that samsung doesn't follow the practice with this. Verizon & AT&T have been doing that for a while though. I just know that i can't go back to iPhone without jailbreaking (which are rare now) and won't keep a phone that i can't root. I love my root apps
I think i've used all your ROMS so far and i appreciate your work dearly.
TX is the man when it comes to roms on the N4, I still run Moar on my old note. Never give up faith, he never releases anything less than perfect, just takes some patience.
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Ok might seem like a silly question but I am gonna ask anyway. To me reading around I don't see root and unlocked bootloader really coming avab for this Verizon S8+
Right now I have the Moto X Pure rooted and I m the type I kinda like to have a rooted phone. Just been doing this a very long time and set in my ways.
How are you all that own this phone running unrooted. I mean I guess I could play around and use an unrooted phone but it's been a while.
Give me your opinions...
For adblocking I use adhell and it works great. Other than that, I guess I have lost interest in root. Only thing I really hated was ads
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For adblocking I use adhell and it works great. Other than that, I guess I have lost interest in root. Only thing I really hated was ads
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Thanks for the reply.
Yea I use adblock (rooted) now but I really think I would miss Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, and MyBackup and they all work well with a rooted phone.
I guess I will wait to see if root comes around and when the price drops on the phone.
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Thanks for the reply.
Yea I use adblock (rooted) now but I really think I would miss Titanium Backup, Root Explorer, and MyBackup and they all work well with a rooted phone.
I guess I will wait to see if root comes around and when the price drops on the phone.
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I was the same as you for years. I always rooted my devices and used the same apps that all required root. But now I really don't miss rooting and have accepted the fact that I can replace TB with SmartSwitch, use RE without accessing the root file system, etc.
I keep an old Nexus 7 (2013) on hand for those times I need to feed my addiction to SuperSU!
screw this give us root
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screw this give us root
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Yea I am staying away from this phone unless it gets root.
ChadH42 said:
I was the same as you for years. I always rooted my devices and used the same apps that all required root. But now I really don't miss rooting and have accepted the fact that I can replace TB with SmartSwitch, use RE without accessing the root file system, etc.
I keep an old Nexus 7 (2013) on hand for those times I need to feed my addiction to SuperSU!
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Quick question for ya. When using SmartSwitch, does it actually switch app and the data for each app so it is as if I lose nothing? That's the one main reason I use TiBu. Thanks in advance.
ChadH42 said:
I was the same as you for years. I always rooted my devices and used the same apps that all required root. But now I really don't miss rooting and have accepted the fact that I can replace TB with SmartSwitch, use RE without accessing the root file system, etc.
I keep an old Nexus 7 (2013) on hand for those times I need to feed my addiction to SuperSU!
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SmartSwitch doesnt do app data.
http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/support/skp/faq/1094130
Q4: Can Smart Switch backup or restore application data (like game progress data or chatting logs)?
A: Smart Switch mobile doesn’t support application data backup/restore. Smart Switch backs up the application list only
stajam said:
Quick question for ya. When using SmartSwitch, does it actually switch app and the data for each app so it is as if I lose nothing? That's the one main reason I use TiBu. Thanks in advance.
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It does not see above
kendive said:
Ok might seem like a silly question but I am gonna ask anyway. To me reading around I don't see root and unlocked bootloader really coming avab for this Verizon S8+
Right now I have the Moto X Pure rooted and I m the type I kinda like to have a rooted phone. Just been doing this a very long time and set in my ways.
How are you all that own this phone running unrooted. I mean I guess I could play around and use an unrooted phone but it's been a while.
Give me your opinions...
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This is my first phone ever that is not rooted. I have been using the nexus line for so long i am loving all these extra features that actually work.
My root list has kept shrinking over the years. do i miss it... sure... do i love this new phone... OH YEAH.
What about Viper audio? Is that possible without root? I just ordered a S8+ the unlocked version and am a bit concerned not seeing much on root. I see there are bounties out there for it and a lot of work being done towards root and possible BL unlocking, but who knows when it will come available. I did the incredible trade deal, hard to pass up, trading in a old note 3. But I need tethering out of the box, want Viper audio and use TiBu all the time. This needs to get rooted ASAP! Or I may send it back or sell it.....
Sporttster said:
What about Viper audio? Is that possible without root? I just ordered a S8+ the unlocked version and am a bit concerned not seeing much on root. I see there are bounties out there for it and a lot of work being done towards root and possible BL unlocking, but who knows when it will come available. I did the incredible trade deal, hard to pass up, trading in a old note 3. But I need tethering out of the box, want Viper audio and use TiBu all the time. This needs to get rooted ASAP! Or I may send it back or sell it.....
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Good luck. I don't see this phone getting root. :crying:
I'm keeping my Moto X Pure as my daily driver for now. Thought about getting a Note 4 to play around with...
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I regret buying my unlocked s8+. Don't get me wrong it's a beast of a phone. But I'm like the OP I need root! So I'm probably gonna sell my s8+..
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BigM69 said:
I regret buying my unlocked s8+. Don't get me wrong it's a beast of a phone. But I'm like the OP I need root! So I'm probably gonna sell my s8+..
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What phone you getting instead?
Like many others on the thread, I have Moto X Pure on vzn. Great phone. Im looking to upgrade, and NEED root.
What are my options... besides waiting for pixel 2?
Cowbell_Guy said:
What phone you getting instead?
Like many others on the thread, I have Moto X Pure on vzn. Great phone. Im looking to upgrade, and NEED root.
What are my options... besides waiting for pixel 2?
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Before I got this damn s8+ I used the nexus 6. I used the N6 for 3 years absolutely still love that phone! I don't know man I'm thinking about the nexus 6p. The s8+ is a good phone I just need root and bootloader needs to become unlockable for me to keep it.
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kendive said:
Ok might seem like a silly question but I am gonna ask anyway. To me reading around I don't see root and unlocked bootloader really coming avab for this Verizon S8+
Right now I have the Moto X Pure rooted and I m the type I kinda like to have a rooted phone. Just been doing this a very long time and set in my ways.
How are you all that own this phone running unrooted. I mean I guess I could play around and use an unrooted phone but it's been a while.
Give me your opinions...
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I too came from a rooted Moto X Pure and personally I don't mind being unrooted. Sure I miss being able to use custom roms and having adaway and titanium backup but personally it's not that bad. I really like my S8+ and I would not go back lol.
blackra1n said:
I too came from a rooted Moto X Pure and personally I don't mind being unrooted. Sure I miss being able to use custom roms and having adaway and titanium backup but personally it's not that bad. I really like my S8+ and I would not go back lol.
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I will keep my rooted Moto X Pure just ordered a Note 4 to play with. There is no phone that great for me to use unrooted...
It sucks to not have root. Haven't had root since my Dev edition Note 4. Have had root on every phone previous since my original HTC Incredible smartphone way back when.
I do miss Titanium backup. And Ad Away. Those two things are by far the two that I miss the most. Helium worked well enough on my Note 7 and S7 Edge once I migrated to that from the banned Note & (that I held on to until the very last I could - into February). But Helium does NOT work worth a crap on the S8+. Quite a few apps would not migrate at all with any data, so I lost data on some apps. I found work arounds for most of them, but not all of them. And I use Adhell, but it's not nearly as good as Ad Away. But again, it's not a real big deal overall. Would love root but not expecting it to happen.
Totally agree with you guys!!!! Regret trading in my ROOTED s7 to get the s8+, Now if that's not a ****ing tool of a move I don't kno what is!!!!
I miss adaway, EXTREMELY BAD, I miss patched YouTube apps "no ads" & I ESPICIALLY, prob most of all over adaway I miss Arise
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OMG I just about blew a load allover myself, only 2 be again let down... ****ING US VARIANTS!!!!
http://www.stechguide.com/twrp-recovery-for-galaxy-s8-and-galaxy-s8-snapdragon-variant/