What content of Gapps should I retain - Galaxy Ace II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have installed CWM11 and a new kernel. I realise I need to have access to G play and so have installed Gapps. It brings with it many extra apps that I do not want. In order to be able to access and install new apps from the G play which of the gapps apps must I retain? I ask because I read that G play access requires more than one of the apps in the gapps folder.
R

R814932 said:
I have installed CWM11 and a new kernel. I realise I need to have access to G play and so have installed Gapps. It brings with it many extra apps that I do not want. In order to be able to access and install new apps from the G play which of the gapps apps must I retain? I ask because I read that G play access requires more than one of the apps in the gapps folder.
R
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Which package did you install?
Pico package already contains the minimum needed for play store to function properly
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I installed the ace2nutzer kernel 4.4.

No, I didn't meant the kernel. Rather which gapps package are you using.
Besides, could you mention which apps do you mean are there but not needed?
Alternatively, try this package: http://d-h.st/ILFH
Afaik, it only contains store, play service, hangout, and what it requires for them to run.

I have installed gapps-kk-20140606-signed.zip. There seem to be too many apps in there which grab ram. Do you know which ones I can safely remove?

I thought I could answer my question by comparing the contents of /system/app/ on my phone with the same location in the mini-gapps you suggested. I have many more apps than the 4 in the mini-gapps. Is the position that the only ones that are essential to remain in /system/app/ are those 4?
Am I correct to assume that the contents of priv-app should be left alone?

Well, if you wanna go by comparing, you should compare the contents from the gapps you flashed and the one I gave before.
Priv-app is also safe to be removed if you are sure that you are not using it. In essence, the ones in priv-app uses system level permission, but nevertheless it's still an app.

Priv-app seems to be a subdirectory which contains 4 apps.
I hope you find the time to comment, however briefly, on the following:
Where do i find NT-app? I did not find it in GP.
Can I run the phone and get apps from google.play if I remove
google play services
Hangouts
Google search
A number of apps starting with com.android.....
Also I note that some of my apps are shown twice as running. Do you know if that is a fault?
Robin

R814932 said:
Where do i find NT-app? I did not find it in GP.
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NT-App is Novathor App, it could be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729459
But, what ROM are you using anyway?
Every ROM for Ace2's ROMS have it included, afaik
R814932 said:
Can I run the phone and get apps from google.play if I remove
google play services
Hangouts
Google search
A number of apps starting with com.android.....
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Google play services, no. Hangouts and google search, yes. The others, I'm not sure.
R814932 said:
Also I note that some of my apps are shown twice as running. Do you know if that is a fault?
Robin
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What do you mean by twice as running?

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Add free app?

Hi everyone,
I just noticed today that my Add free app isnt working. When I try and run the app it tells me that its an old version and I should update it. When I search the market I cant find it, and I also cant find any substitute
Can anyone recommend me an app that disables all adds and that can be found on the Market?
Thanks in advance!
mascolel said:
Hi everyone,
I just noticed today that my Add free app isnt working. When I try and run the app it tells me that its an old version and I should update it. When I search the market I cant find it, and I also cant find any substitute
Can anyone recommend me an app that disables all adds and that can be found on the Market?
Thanks in advance!
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this is the one i always use but i dont know if it needs updating coz my desire is dead.
google removed all ad blockers from the play store, they had their reasons i guess...
you can still sideload the ad blocker apks just fine
personally i prefer Adaway, open source, works good. you'll have to update the apps manually if they get updated, just search online
jmcclue said:
this is the one i always use but i dont know if it needs updating coz my desire is dead.
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This is the one I am having problems with. I need another one, but I already tried lots of them in playstore and none is as good as the one you mentioned.
eddiehk6 said:
google removed all ad blockers from the play store, they had their reasons i guess...
you can still sideload the ad blocker apks just fine
personally i prefer Adaway, open source, works good. you'll have to update the apps manually if they get updated, just search online
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Thanks. And how do I install it? From bootloader? Shouldn`t it be a zip file?
mascolel said:
Thanks. And how do I install it? From bootloader? Shouldn`t it be a zip file?
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no, just install the download the apk then install it using a file manager (click on it :good. Make sure you have settings -> applications settings -> and 'unknown sources' is ticked
it's a fairly common way to install apps without going through play store (called sideloading)
open the app and follow the instructions...
jmcclue said:
this is the one i always use but i dont know if it needs updating coz my desire is dead.
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Thanks man! I was looking for that!

Tired of Hangouts? How to Get Back Google Talk.

Update:
12/1/2013
The tutorial below was tested with Android v4.2
I am not sure if it works with v4.3 and higher.
For those running 4.3 or 4.4, please feel free to offer any insight.
Thanks
I read where a lot of people don't like Google Hangouts, and would like to install Google Talk again. There are GTalk files available, but installing them proved to be unsuccessful for some, which prompted me to find out why.
Below is a short tutorial showing how to get Google Talk back back onto your device. I have no doubt others already know how to install GTalk on devices with Hangouts installed, but many don't, and after searching and not seeing a how to, I started this thread.
I've tested this successfully on my rooted T-Mobile M919. I've not tested this method on other devices, but I don't see why it wouldn't work for others.
1) download Google Talk:
http://d-h.st/9Uf
2) go to Titanium Backup
3) find Hangouts system app
4) make a backup of Hangouts
5) un-install Hangouts
6) reboot
7) using your file manager, find the talk.apk & install the package.
8) Enjoy
If you want to install Hangouts again, un-install Google Talk, reboot and
re-install Hangouts using TiBu.
Biker1 said:
I've read where a lot of people don't like Google Hangouts, and would like to install Google Talk again. There are GTalk files available, but installing them proved to be unsuccessful for some, which prompted me to find out why.
Below is a short tutorial showing how to get Google Talk back back onto your device. I have no doubt others already know how to install GTalk on devices with Hangouts installed, but many don't, and after searching and not seeing a how to, I started this thread.
I've tested this successfully on my rooted T-Mobile M919. I've not tested this method on other devices, but I don't see why it wouldn't work for others.
1) download Google Talk:
http://d-h.st/9Uf
2) go to Titanium Backup
3) find Hangouts system app
4) make a backup of Hangouts
5) un-install Hangouts
6) reboot
7) using your file manager, find the talk.apk & install the package.
8) Enjoy
If you want to install Hangouts again, un-install Google Talk, reboot and
re-install Hangouts using TiBu.
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Or you can just do 'uninstall update' in the app list.
bogdi1988 said:
Or you can just do 'uninstall update' in the app list.
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Uninstall update is not an option in the Playstore. Only 'open' & 'uninstall'
In:
Settings
Application manager
All
I uninstalled updates but Hangouts remains in the app draw and Talk is not found.
If I've overlooked something, please let me know.
I'll reboot to see if that restores Talk.
Edit:
Rebooted, and Hangouts still there. No Talk.
Biker1 said:
Uninstall update is not an option in the Playstore. Only 'open' & 'uninstall'
In:
Settings
Application manager
All
I uninstalled updates but Hangouts remains in the app draw and talk is not found.
If I've overlooked something, please let me know.
I'll reboot to see if that restores talk.
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Hmm... idk. I've had Google Talk installed before Hangouts came out. I have the options for 'Force Stop' 'Uninstall updates' and 'Disable'.
bogdi1988 said:
Hmm... idk. I've had Google Talk installed before Hangouts came out. I have the options for 'Force Stop' 'Uninstall updates' and 'Disable'.
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That may be why. You already had Talk pre-installed.
Biker1 said:
That may be why. You already had Talk pre-installed.
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Yeah, that's why -
If your ROM came with Talk, then you can uninstall updates and get back to Talk. Whereas, if your ROM came with Hangouts, then uninstalling update won't work.
(And here, by ROM I mean the ROM istels or GApps package you flashed. )
Just out of curiosity why do you like talk over hangouts? To me hangouts has everything talk had and more, not sure why I would want to go back.
djsaad1 said:
Just out of curiosity why do you like talk over hangouts? To me hangouts has everything talk had and more, not sure why I would want to go back.
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Personally, I've used Talk very little and never tried Hangouts.
The reason I started this 'How to' thread was because I found others that had Hangouts wanted to install Google Talk like they used to have on other devices, but we're unable to install Talk. I looked around and didn't see any clear directions on how to do this, so by trial & error I figured it out and started this thread
With the above being said, I've read many who prefer Talk for its simplicity, in addition to being able to tell who is available for chat if they're on their pc etc. which you're not able to do with Hangouts. I'm sure there are pros & cons for both apps, and sometimes it may just come down to:
- those who are familiar with a service they've used for years (Talk) and figure it works well so why change it.
- If it 'ain't broke, why fix it?'
- the KISS Principle (keep it short & simple)
Others who have used both Talk and Hangouts will be able to offer more specifics
I don't like hangouts either. I have a modified talk apk somewhere on my computer that disables the stupid play store notification to update.
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Google should listen to their customers and split Talk from Hangouts. The later seems aimed at teens and people who enjoy selfies.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
Biker1 said:
I've read where a lot of people don't like Google Hangouts, and would like to install Google Talk again. There are GTalk files available, but installing them proved to be unsuccessful for some, which prompted me to find out why.
Below is a short tutorial showing how to get Google Talk back back onto your device. I have no doubt others already know how to install GTalk on devices with Hangouts installed, but many don't, and after searching and not seeing a how to, I started this thread.
I've tested this successfully on my rooted T-Mobile M919. I've not tested this method on other devices, but I don't see why it wouldn't work for others.
1) download Google Talk:
http://d-h.st/9Uf
2) go to Titanium Backup
3) find Hangouts system app
4) make a backup of Hangouts
5) un-install Hangouts
6) reboot
7) using your file manager, find the talk.apk & install the package.
8) Enjoy
If you want to install Hangouts again, un-install Google Talk, reboot and
re-install Hangouts using TiBu.
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Tried, but got " App not installed".
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ra4013 said:
Tried, but got " App not installed".
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I see you have a Sprint S4.
I just tested the tutorial again and I was able to install GTalk.
Follow the steps exactly.
If you still fail to install GTalk, as I mentioned in the op, I've tested this on an M919, not other devices. If you've followed the steps exactly, then there appears to be an issue installing GTalk on the Sprint S4.
Thanks a lot
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lord dredd said:
Thanks a lot
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Anytime:good:
Wanted to ask what if I make it a system app through tiburon?
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lord dredd said:
Wanted to ask what if I make it a system app through tiburon?
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Not sure.
You can always try moving it with TiBu and see what happens.
Have a Nandroid just in case
I am using Samsung Galaxy S3 4.1.2. I never installed the update to GTalk from play store since it was going to replace it. Anyways I got a an OTA update of about 80mb I installed it and I got a software Play Games and my GTalk has been replaced with hangouts. From the app manager menu when I go to the hangout app it only shows the force stop and disable option and not the uninstall option. In the playstore it is showing me that there's an update to it. How can I remove this crap software? I cannot root due to warranty issues, sorry.
billubakra said:
I am using Samsung Galaxy S3 4.1.2. I never installed the update to GTalk from play store since it was going to replace it. Anyways I got a an OTA update of about 80mb I installed it and I got a software Play Games and my GTalk has been replaced with hangouts. From the app manager menu when I go to the hangout app it only shows the force stop and disable option and not the uninstall option. In the playstore it is showing me that there's an update to it. How can I remove this crap software? I cannot root due to warranty issues, sorry.
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The tutorial I posted requires Titanium Backup which requires root.. You also need a file explorer.
Biker1 said:
The tutorial I posted requires Titanium Backup which requires root.. You also need a file explorer.
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Thanks for replying. Yea I have already checked that, any tutorial for the non-rooters?

ION JB ROM/MOD/LB/UB: Slim Roger LT28i Deodexed, Rooted, Debloated, DeGoogled

Here is LT28i Stock Roger JB: Deodexed, Prerooted, Debloated and DeGoogled with Nakedbrowser integrated.
All Roger bloatware removed. All social apps, facebook, twitter etc. removed. All Google apps removed. Google Services Framework removed. Google one time initialization removed. Sony update removed.
This rom is deodexed by me, unlike the previous one that was just prerooted and therefore moved to general section. Rom is very light (only 355mgb in zip) and battery conscious. K9 mail and Textsecure can replace stock SMS and Conversations. Gibberbot can replace any messaging app. All three are open source and freely available on the internet (gpl license).
You must be rooted and have CWM recovery, as is always the case with CWM flashing.
Instructions:
1. Start recovery, mount system, cache and data. Format each (you can do instead data erase/factory reset, but that won't get rid of everything).
2. Flash the rom.
If you were on JB LT28h, you are all set, just reboot. If you were on ICS, DON'T REBOOT. Instead do the following:
3. Turn off your phone and flash Roger stock JB FTF with flashtool. Untick everything but kernel; exclude everything, but baseband. You need LT28i basebands, as it has been reported that ICS basebands produce crappy results on JB: problems with H/H+ and/or LTE. Also, if your LT28at is simunlocked, by flashing Roger basebands, you can restore T-Mobile's H and H+ (1700), which is blocked in AT&T firmware.
WARNING: If you were on ICS and you don't do the third step, you will end up in a boot loop.
After boot, you will have to reinstall Busybox and CWM, which were not incorporated in this rom. Remember, without busybox, you won't be able to install CWM.
To lovers of Google apps: you can install them on your own. They are freely available.
Download link:
http://yadi.sk/d/8uwDRkIm7o2SG
DISCLAIMER: You may hard/soft brick your device. Do the above at your own risk. If you kill your device, file a complaint with the International Criminal Court.
Would you please tell me the benefit of using Rogers instead of Generic International firmware?
LT28i has a different hardware: radio and frequencies. It has lte, which LT28h doesn't.
LT28h has better H+ upload speed. This requires software changes. I had problems with lte conection when I installed LT28h rom (and used ICS LT28i radio): breaking down, loss of packets and improper switching. Those problems went away with Roger, which is the only officially released rom for LT28i.
Will try this rom out. Have no problem getting Google back on here so thanks. Well report back.
Can you add pic if u cant ill add it when i flash.
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Thank you!
Actually like this Rom so far cause pretty much can put what I want on it. Simple fast very responsive.
This is a build Ur own Rom basically.
Thanks
Pic Ur attached
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Here is the latest battery usage screen shot. Pretty good. I am starting to feel like I have my good old Nokia usage.
this is better for at&t ion? I have lt28h with ics baseband and it is crappy the signal is very bad.
Just flash Roger's baseband and you will see improvement.
I will try your rom, sounds real good.
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Had problems with google. Since it is degoogled. Can you add a version with google? Or a gapps zip or something like that? Thanks
You should have no problems installing Google apps. Just search xda forums or the internet. They are freely available. But if you install them, your phone will become laggy again and your battery will die in 10 - 12 hours.
optimumpro said:
You should have no problems installing Google apps. Just search xda forums or the internet. They are freely available. But if you install them, your phone will become laggy again and your battery will die in 10 - 12 hours.
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Rom seems to be fast, and stable but after flashing gapps playstore did not work, neither did contacts sync.
Najuto9tail said:
Rom seems to be fast, and stable but after flashing gapps playstore did not work, neither did contacts sync.
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Flashing wouldn't do. This rom does not have Google Services Framework. I would try direct install starting from Google store. Googleplay may install GSF, but keep in mind that GSF is primarily responsible for lagging and battery usage. Through this your phone is almost always connected to Google servers and transmits info about everything you do including keystrokes etc. Without mentioning privacy issues, this makes your processor work overtime and kills the battery.
Android is the best OS around, because it is based on Linux, but only so if you deGoogle it. Yes, you will lose Googleplay, but I am yet to find a single application that cannot be downloaded from other sources. Note, I am not talking about getting paid applications. I am talking about free apps that are available at Googlestore. They are all available elsewhere.
optimumpro said:
Flashing wouldn't do. This rom does not have Google Services Framework. I would try direct install starting from Google store. Googleplay may install GSF, but keep in mind that GSF is primarily responsible for lagging and battery usage. Through this your phone is almost always connected to Google servers and transmits info about everything you do including keystrokes etc. Without mentioning privacy issues, this makes your processor work overtime and kills the battery.
Android is the best OS around, because it is based on Linux, but only so if you deGoogle it. Yes, you will lose Googleplay, but I am yet to find a single application that cannot be downloaded from other sources. Note, I am not talking about getting paid applications. I am talking about free apps that are available at Googlestore. They are all available elsewhere.
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I agree with what you just said, and yes it is a great idea. But in my case, without google my contacts would not sync. I do not care about google play because I use aptoide or blackmart... It is better lol. what I used to do was to turn automatic sync off and sync manually.
Najuto9tail said:
I agree with what you just said, and yes it is a great idea. But in my case, without google my contacts would not sync. I do not care about google play because I use aptoide or blackmart... It is better lol. what I used to do was to turn automatic sync off and sync manually.
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I no longer have deleted apps, but I would look into Spetre's deodexed LT28h system/apps and look for googlesync adapter. I would then put it into your system/apps (with appropriate permissions) and see if that helps. You may also need to install google account (also in that rom), but I am not sure if it would work absent GSF.
Najuto9tail said:
I agree with what you just said, and yes it is a great idea. But in my case, without google my contacts would not sync. I do not care about google play because I use aptoide or blackmart... It is better lol. what I used to do was to turn automatic sync off and sync manually.
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Try this:
http://yadi.sk/d/sfsmY8IJ7vsNW
It contains 4 files: Google backup transport; Contacts sync adapter; Calendar sync adapter; and Google Login Service They are from Roger's rom.
I would start with contacts sync, if still doesn't work, add google backup and then google login. They have to be installed in system with usual permissions. That's all I can do. Good luck.
optimumpro said:
Try this:
http://yadi.sk/d/sfsmY8IJ7vsNW
It contains 4 files: Google backup transport; Contacts sync adapter; Calendar sync adapter; and Google Login Service They are from Roger's rom.
I would start with contacts sync, if still doesn't work, add google backup and then google login. They have to be installed in system with usual permissions. That's all I can do. Good luck.
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Thanks I will try it later.
Edit-I made a flashable cwm .zip from lt28h prerooted stock apps and framework. To flash into this rom.
Big improvement on T-Mobile service (sim Unlocked)
Najuto9tail said:
Thanks I will try it later.
Edit-I made a flashable cwm .zip from lt28h prerooted stock apps and framework. To flash into this rom.
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Nice, so far week with this rom love it, only problem was putting new music app on here dont wrk but its all good everything wrks fine, gotta put honami lanucher i guess.
If u guys have nfc issue just delete old apk in system replace with new nfc apk from any other rom with right permissions.
Will upload gapps when i get to wrk.
Here you guys go,
http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
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princemarcus19 said:
Nice, so far week with this rom love it, only problem was putting new music app on here dont wrk but its all good everything wrks fine, gotta put honami lanucher i guess.
If u guys have nfc issue just delete old apk in system replace with new nfc apk from any other rom with right permissions.
Will upload gapps when i get to wrk.
Here you guys go,
http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip
Sent from my LT28i using xda app-developers app
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I had problems with other roms since I have a straight talk sim card which works with at&t towers I went back to stock lt28at firmware and I manage to deodex latest update myself and root it, debloated it with speedy droid and titanium backup. So far it works great for me.
This rom (Slim Rogers) seems to help tmobile users I guess.
Yea it does big improvement i have lte 24/7 now.
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OnePlus 5 Debloater

Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
dustintinsley said:
Threw this together. A simple aroma-based debater for the OP5. If anyone wants something more added, just let me know...
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=673368273298973644
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more info please..
?
gershee said:
more info please..
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A debloater for OnePlus 5 (really any OxygenOS, but I only have OP5 now). Allows for removal of a lot of pre-installed apps. All apps are user selected. Can trim down and remove unused apps.
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
tokecin said:
Hi,
I tried it with new OOS 4.57 and did not delete any Gapp
For system apps related to Oneplus like logskit and so on, it was ok and working like a charm.
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Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
3DSammy said:
Interesting comment as my long time debloat app System app remover (ROOT) wasn't able to remove Gapps apps (Google Music, Google Movie/TV) either. I'm trying to make /system room for installing V4ARISE but after this latest OTA there is not enough /system space left.
In fact that's why I'm looking at this debloat method. I wonder if the issue you observed is why the app I'd previously used no longer works. Unless I find something better I'll likely try Titanium Backup's uninstall method but I was looking for a way to batch clean up which I suspect would need to get done after every OTA.
EDIT: Using Titanium Backup to backup then uninstall worked. I removed Duo (~20Mg) to recovery the space I needed.
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I am using also Titanium Backup for Gapps but freezing them rather than un-install.
Today, I tried deeper aroma script and I can uninstall every bloatware less Gapps (Chrome, Gmail,...)

[Debloat ]What are the Safe Apps/Packages to Remove?

Based on the title itself, what are the list of apps/packages that you guys removed (or can be removed) to debloat Mi A2 Lite?
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
adriakus said:
Uuuhhh. Welcome to my world. I don't like being tracked all the time by the countless sensors a modern smartphone has. Privacy is utterly important for me (and should be for everyone, but I'm not here to discuss this haha). Also, I hate making it easy to the multimillionaire companies profiting from selling and playing with your privacy. That's why I can't wait for the custom ROMs to start showing.
So, for now I disabled ALL google and all xiaomi apps. All of them except the "phone", "clock" and "carrier services" apps (the first 2 are too delicate for me and I didn't find a trustworthy alternative and I have no idea what the 3rd does, but seems important haha). Everything else, gone. Even "feedback", "PAI" and "Spock". And, of course, I don't have a google account linked to the device.
On the first boot, the phone connects to the internet and downloads a few other Google and Xiaomi apps. I prevented it to do so, so I wouldn't have to disable too many apps. I disabled google play services, play store and device setup (among the other ones) before connecting to internet.
Everything works fine in my phone (only one issue. Some apps rely on google services to show the map image. The image doesn't work while google services are disabled. But you can always enable it if you wanna use it).
Let me know if you have any question of any app/service/whatever you want to disable. I can share the alternative apps I use for the disable Google ones. I must say that most of them work even better.
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That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
fake__knv said:
And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
fake__knv said:
Theres not that much bloatware in the device. And I think removing a system app will break OTA updates.
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You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
elvinguitar said:
That's awesome. I wanted to know your alternatives to some of the system apps. I wanted to uninstall the default file manager of oreo but I can't find the package name from "debloater" magisk module. Also, what are the packages/apps that you uninstalled? Do you mind listing it here?
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I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
adriakus said:
I've just created this post. I hope you find it useful
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a2-lite/how-to/guide-apps-services-safe-to-disable-t3849263
I'm still working on it. Check in tomorrow and it'll be finished.
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Awesome! Thanks for creating this thread. I'll definitely check it out.
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is it true?
can anyone check it?
maybe magisk is not causing problems with OTA updates?
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I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
Majaque said:
I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
krzygaj said:
Can Adaway cause problems with OTA updates?
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Yes, to prevent it you should turn on "Systemless host" option in Magisk Manager.
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I can confirm, touching ANYTHING on system partition (eg. hosts file) will cause OTA issues. Everything should be done systemlessly.
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Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
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Force-disabling a system app affects the system partition? Or it would only affect it if it's unisntalled?
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Shouldn't be a problem. If you disable/freeze a system app with for example Titanium Backup and you restore the stock system partition via fastboot afterwards, the disabled app is still disabled. So the conclusion should be that those changes to the app aren't touching the system partition at all and are stored to the data partition instead.
Don't hit me if this isn't the case.
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
Txatxiquesi said:
Hi everyone ,Before realize debloat system app like Google maps , youtube, etc will be a problem to apply new OTA , i uninstall some ones with "3C toolbox" making backup before , after that i restore the backups.
The question is , i am ok for apply future OTAs?.
Thanks.
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Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
thorin0815 said:
Probably restoring backups of uninstalled apps isn't enough to be OTA ready, better just disable/freeze system stuff. You won't get free space fo to use after uninstalling anyways.
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Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
Txatxiquesi said:
Ok, thanks , and now what i should do to be OTA ready?.
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Reflash system_a and system_b partitions via fastboot.
thorin0815 said:
You can uninstall non wanted stuff with the help of ADB without the need of rooting your phone. It doesn't get uninstalled for real, but hidden for the main user profile. Those apps can't run but OTA isn't a problem.
Check it out:
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
Edit:
@adriakus
You can remove carrier services if you removed Google Messages aswell.
"In a nutshell, the Carrier Services app is intended to allow your smart phone to take full advantage of a technology called Rich Communications Services, or RCS.
RCS allows for extra features in the Android Messaging app. The thing is most carriers have their own methods of supporting RCS in place so Google’s app is often redundant."
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Have you try to safely uninstall Feedback app? Really don't need it and i'd like to uninstall it without ota's issues
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
Akbhar said:
I've uninstalled the Feedback app and received the july's OTA without issues.
I've used this app: https://github.com/Saki-EU/XiaomiADBFastbootTools
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Ty so much,i've had a quick look and it seems promising.Not so happy about Java,it's needed,but if you promise me you didn't have OTA issues i'll surely use it for my purposes.

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