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Anyone else got this? My battery should be fully charged in the morning with the green light on - but the battery is 91% (or 94% or 99%). Then if I plug the charger it jumps from 91% to 100% in seconds.
Just hope its just waiting few cycles to calibrate or something... :/
Yeah, it seems to sort itself out after a few charges.
same with mine, only just happened after the update
I have something else to share about battery charging after update. I usually charge my phone from my computer's usb port during the night.
However after the update USB charging is much slower than before. It would take about 4 hours to charge from empty, but since the updates it only charges with a rate of 13% every hour so it takes more than 7 hours to fully charge from empty.
Anybody else noticed this?
zonkkk said:
I have something else to share about battery charging after update. I usually charge my phone from my computer's usb port during the night.
However after the update USB charging is much slower than before. It would take about 4 hours to charge from empty, but since the updates it only charges with a rate of 13% every hour so it takes more than 7 hours to fully charge from empty.
Anybody else noticed this?
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yeah, ive had these same exact issues. its so annoying. its just not worth charging via PC usb any more
The GTalk issue is out there again, not sure if its the culprit? I have unchecked the 'automatically sign in' and logged out, but it keeps turning on and logging me in by itself. Im sure its one of the reasons for the battery drain. Anyone else with this?
This morning it dropped from 100% to 88% in less than two hours without really doing anything with the phone...
this whole 'stopping charging till 90% once its reached 100%' issue is rediculous. I cant believe that HTC have added this to the update (cos it didnt happen before) for a phone where users rarely get a days usage out of the phone battery anyway! Now you even stand the chance of starting the day with 10% less charge than you should....rediculous!
if its something they want to include then thats fine, but at least give us the option of turning it off
This is from a german forum:
Let the phone empty the battery until it switch off for its own. Switch on again and do a new boot until the phone is switch off again. When switched off charge the battery completely with the original charger.
... and the 90% issue is gone
I have a second battery I never used before. Im going to put it to charge tonight - and let it do few complete full/drained cycles. Hope works ok.
Wonder if everyone else has the persistent GTalk on? I dont want it!! Arghhhhh....
I have the same issue with mine Desire after updating last week,just get the green light for a full charge and after a few minutes I check my battery widget and lol 10 % are gone.Any chances for fixing that issue?I would appreciate if anyone give a helpful advice.thanx in advance.cheers
zahari said:
I have the same issue with mine Desire after updating last week,just get the green light for a full charge and after a few minutes I check my battery widget and lol 10 % are gone.Any chances for fixing that issue?I would appreciate if anyone give a helpful advice.thanx in advance.cheers
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look up at post #8 and give that a try. Thats what im gonna do and im sure people will report back on here after theyve tried it to see if it works
topcaser said:
This is from a german forum:
Let the phone empty the battery until it switch off for its own. Switch on again and do a new boot until the phone is switch off again. When switched off charge the battery completely with the original charger.
... and the 90% issue is gone
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this didnt work with me...still have the 90% issue
Look to this thread, we are talking about the same issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689861
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this didnt work with me...still have the 90% issue
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The same here...
do we have new info about this issue ?
Is this such a huge issue then? I mean, sure you want it to show the correct %. But does it affect the total duration in any way?
The 10% can eventually level out when being used. I wonder if the device is at e.g. 30% it should actually be 40% in this case, or the 30% is actually quite accurate.
The % is an estimate to give a better representation how much there is left rather than just following the voltage drop. But in the end it will most probably be the voltage that makes the device decide whether or not the battery is empty.
Don't be silly, ofcourse this is a huge issue, did u ever seen such a issue on any other device, even devices of 5$ dont have this strange behavior.
Phone from such class to have such a problem, this is annoying.
And rather iPhone4 signal strenth issue i think here problem is software and it will be fixed
Comon, a 'huge issue'?! It's merely some % figure that's not shown correctly.
Oh well, I guess it's a compliment for the Desire then.. if 10% off is a huge issue, the rest can't be so bad!
Devices of $5 are really bad in showing correct percentages really. One part of the % goes fast, other slow and then suddenly fast again (you know, 1 out of 3 blocks left but flat battery in no-time, while the second block lasted hours and hours). Just because a device says it's 100% loaded, it doesn't mean it's actually correct.
That's why I wondered: Does it actually affect battery performance. If it does, then (and only then) you can call it a 'huge issue'. Otherwise I would just call it a minor annoyance. But obviously stuff like this might be personal eh!
But I'm quite convinced as well this is a software problem and can be fixed. I just don't think it will be very high on the HTC priority list
Ok, i agree its minor annoyance, but anyway it's annoying at least to me, you are right, this percentage may be fake, but for me it will be better if they show me real battery load
cheers
ps. i saw in your signature u r 1.15.405.4 - do u have this behavior on it ?
Well, the Desire is gone to be replaced now. But I didn't have this problem with my old Desire. Then that one got replaced (because HTC scratched it), and the new one did have this problem.
But now the Desire is off again because of weird touchscreen problem, so lets see how the new one holds up
As you can see from my capture, while on the ac charging, the percentage suddenly drops for no reason...its not like it discharges and charges back up, it drops and stays there...is this a problem with my device?
Was flashed to stock root froyo recently.
Hi,
I have same issue...
It's a rooted Froyo Stock Rom. It drops from 100% to 90% and continues charging.
Tim
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What application is that? Would like to see on my device, too.
Thanks.
Tander_ZA said:
What application is that? Would like to see on my device, too.
Thanks.
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My Screenshot is from JuicePlotter:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-latedroid-juiceplotter-wntF.aspx
More data here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689861
It is a known issue, acutally many claim it is not a problem. If you leave your desire on ac charge (for ex: overnight) when it reached %100 and stays there for a certain period of time it starts using phones battery. Then it chrages again until it reached to 100% and the same cycle starts. People say it is to increase batterys life because contiues charging decreases battery life.
I believe it started with 1.21 update, when I was on 1.15 this thing never happened. However, since I installed 1.21 and froyo same cycle happens to my device as well.
Thanks for explanation and link!
Thanks for the explanations. Helps a lot.
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My Screenshot is from JuicePlotter:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-latedroid-juiceplotter-wntF.aspx
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Excellent - downloaded it. Installed.
Will see how it goes.
Harnec said:
More data here;
It is a known issue, acutally many claim it is not a problem. If you leave your desire on ac charge (for ex: overnight) when it reached %100 and stays there for a certain period of time it starts using phones battery. Then it chrages again until it reached to 100% and the same cycle starts. People say it is to increase batterys life because contiues charging decreases battery life.
I believe it started with 1.21 update, when I was on 1.15 this thing never happened. However, since I installed 1.21 and froyo same cycle happens to my device as well.
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Thanks for the reply, the only problem is in my case, it doesn't seem to charge back up to 100% after the drop. Also mine doesn't seem to discharge; it is a sudden drop from full to 90% while having the fully charged LED green. Do you think its a problem with my battery?
I hope its possible for the developers here ( or maybe at HTC ? hehe ..) to make a fix for this , as some people saying a software update started the whole thing.
and if its a "feature" , people should have the choice wether to have it or not.
I'd rather change my battery after 6 months or something like that then have 92-95% in the morning.
Same here. Not sure if HTC acknowledges this...but it doesn't seem to affect that many desire users apparently so it could be a bug.
I also have a strange problem with my HTC devices (Desire and HTC HD2).Both of them are running froyo.It seems that when leave them charging overnight,the next morning when i wake up i went to check out my phones and they happen to be at 96% charged only.I was pretty scared that my battery's starting to fail me
Im getting some weird battery stuff, as well as the Android OS drain. If I restart my phone, once in a while It drops like 20-30%. i'll go from 46% to like 18%. I see the threads about slow draining, but mine seems to happen instantly sometimes (3 different times so far in a week), anyone have solutions? Got it from someone on ebay, can I still/should I RMA?
Someone posted a kernel fix in the international GSII forum, so we're either waiting for that to get ported over here or wait for samsung to release a fix. I have that same bug too. What percent r u getting on the Android OS? Mine is usually in the 60's.
Yeah I saw that thread, and I saw the 2 things causing it. Waiting for that fix I guess, hopefully it solves the big battery drops as well as the small draining. Mines pretty high, 30-50% I believe, and then cell reception takes 10-20% with LOS
That's alot better than mine. Although, I don't have that LOS problem. I'm running stock atm. Are u on a custom rom?
Running Starburst 1.5, stock was better for no LOS. But I like the customization on Starburst. Hopefully by the end of this week the kernel we be ported over.
Most likely a problem with the battery level algo and not an actual battery charge drop. It's probably showing the correct value after the reboot.
Using battery spy I was using like 12%-15% per hour, not even doing anything. Saw online that formating the SD card might help, just did, and now im using .8% per hour. The hell, something was scanning the SD card or something. Much better now, hopefully itll last 10-20 hours instead of 6 hours.
edit: so it went back up again. At .8% it will last 2 days+, but since the events keep taking the CPU, its draining it. I got it down to 4-8% by taking the SD card out. At least it will last a little longer. Cant wait for the fix, this baby will last days after.
Damn that sucks. I just formatted my card too cuz I was running out of options. Keep us updated tho.
so I think media scanner is draining, I downloaded rescan media root from android market and before I was draining at 12% per hour, but when I disable it with the app, it goes down to 5-6%. Anyone else try? Maybe thats something thats draining.
Oh btw have u tried turning off wifi? It only drained 6% after being off the charger for 9 hours. I havent touched the phone during that time span tho. Android os still in the 50s btw.
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These are my overnight stats when I was sleeping. It's usually worse when wifi is on.
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Most likely a problem with the battery level algo and not an actual battery charge drop. It's probably showing the correct value after the reboot.
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this is almost definitely correct. battery doesn't drop 15-20% because of reboot...the reading is wrong. Battery drivers have been bad on a few of the latest android phones. Just look at when your phone stays at 99% for the first 3 hrs of use each day...what, does it just get really inefficient in the afternoon because of food coma from lunch?
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Oh btw have u tried turning off wifi? It only drained 6% after being off the charger for 9 hours. I havent touched the phone during that time span tho. Android os still in the 50s btw.
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Trying now, seems to be charging faster too. I was mainly on wifi because cell standby was really high, keep getting LOS. But maybe I wont with wifi off now, and i'll see how battery does. ill keep you updated.
Still bad. Can only wait for the patches/fixes. 8 hours doing nothing almost. Sigh.
edit: sent to the galaxy support on twitter, see how that goes.
http://twitter.com/#!/GalaxySsupport/status/124174089085652992
Hey man, I got one more tweak for u to try. I just rooted my phone w/ the latest zenomax kernel and Starburst 1.5. Download setcpu and create a profile for "screen off". Set it to 200-500mhz on demand. In theory, this should prevent 100% cpu utilization while the screen is off. I'm testing this myself atm, so I can't give u my battery stats yet.
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Hey man, I got one more tweak for u to try. I just rooted my phone w/ the latest zenomax kernel and Starburst 1.5. Download setcpu and create a profile for "screen off". Set it to 200-500mhz on demand. In theory, this should prevent 100% cpu utilization while the screen is off. I'm testing this myself atm, so I can't give u my battery stats yet.
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Think I have the v3 version and 1.5 as well. I have setcpu set to 200-400 powersave. ive tried others and same. Suspend and events/0 keeping eating at the CPU. Thanks for the suggestions though.
figured i'd chime in here. i've had days where the battery was fine and days where the battery was absolute trash. it's happened on stock, and it's happened on root. but it almost always seems to coincide with LOS. the first picture is one of several instances where i've had pretty fast drain followed up by an instant dump in charge under normal use. it's strange how after the drop, it slowly works back up then levels off and drains normally. the 2nd pic is from today. i left my phone at home on accident when i went off to work, and when i returned, i had LOS and this battery stat. you can tell where i lost signal . the last pic is from yesterday while i had the phone at work all day and light use; a nice consistent drain.
FU battery drops and FML
Ok so i read all the posts in this thread and i understand theres a issue that effects the phone from even knowing what the battery % is. i had to post these though. i was at 47% then rebooted my phone. phone boots up and yehhh! woop woop 8% now mind you if you look at the graph it shows a nice constant cerve downward but steady because i was using my phone the entire time. now after the restart/batery drop of 40% i kept using the phone constantly but its funny how it took me over a hour of screen on to go from 8% to 5% !!!!! i bet to get from 5% to 1% it will take 2 more hours for sure. you can see the graph start to flatten out like its a super battery after the 40% drop because it didnt really drop to 8% !!! normally i wouldnt care since my phone battery last just as long, it just goes down really slow from 8%-1% but at 5% it auto dims screen and wont let me use my camera for the next 2-3 hours while i knock off the remaining "4%" of battery left. fml
Get Starburst v1.6. He removed DRM processes which should lower Android OS usage and thus battery draining. Plus with the LoStKernel, I haven't had any issues with losing signal since.
Also, use Titanium backup to remove running services that you don't need. I got rid of the stock email client, digital clock, media/social hub if you don't use those. They don't take up a lot of ram, but every little bit helps.
My battery life has improved after battery calibration. I suggest you calibrate if you didn't already so your battery usage graph may be more accurate. Hope this helps.
Thanks for the tips! I was wondering how you would calibrate the battery. Is it the same as wiping battery stats from CWM?
Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
I'm actually seeing the opposite. On Saturday I had mine plugged in and charged to 100%. I took it off the charger and threw it in my bag, where it sat for about 7-8 hours (drove about 3-4 hours and then it was in my car for a few at a restaurant before bringing it into the hotel), wifi and bluetooth on, but disconnected the entire time. It is in a Poetic smart flip cover so screen was off the entire time.
When I got into the hotel it was still at 100%. Used it for a bit that evening, and again the next day before driving home, and finally used it some more at home, but still had over 50% left before bed.
My battery life is also suspect.
fury683 said:
I'm actually seeing the opposite. On Saturday I had mine plugged in and charged to 100%. I took it off the charger and threw it in my bag, where it sat for about 7-8 hours (drove about 3-4 hours and then it was in my car for a few at a restaurant before bringing it into the hotel), wifi and bluetooth on, but disconnected the entire time. It is in a Poetic smart flip cover so screen was off the entire time.
When I got into the hotel it was still at 100%. Used it for a bit that evening, and again the next day before driving home, and finally used it some more at home, but still had over 50% left before bed.
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I was one of the Android L developer preview early adopters and the only thing that kept me from switching back to cyanogenmod was the fact that on the last developer preview whenever Flo said the battery was low I was so surprised I felt cheated. The battery life was so good every time it gave me low battery life notification I was shocked because I had forgotten that this thing even has a battery and needs to be charged.
I don't know if this is psychosomatic or what, but it sure doesn't feel like this on 5.0 or 5.01.
Full disclosure: it's reporting 6h 22m of screen on time with 5 hours of battery life left to go, but it sure doesn't feel that way.
The battery settings used to tell me ridiculous things like 6 days of charge left. It doesn't do that anymore.
Right now I'm in the process of discharging it all the way to death. We'll see if that makes a difference.
collin5022 said:
Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
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Yes I'm having this issue. After upgrading via ota my tablet is dead in less than two days from battery drain
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@collin5022
OTA, OTA with factory reset or img flashing?
Because if you upgrade yours N7 via OTA without factory reset that (and various others) bugs are possible.
My N7 doesnt show idle battery drain (img flashed) or any other bug, so far im very satisfied with 5.0/5.0.1 android.
First off don't close applications this is not Microsoft windows, second use CPUspy and a wakelock detector to see what is preventing your tablet from deep sleeping, third use a system disable app like auto run manager to disable any services necessary, fourth.....profit
^Agreed except for the last part.
Those apps that stop/freeze other apps like the one you mentioned, greenify, anything like that are all bull**** that cause more problems than they claim to fix, IMO.
Flash the factory image. Don't take the ota or keep data when its a major new release.
Battery life is awesome on 5.0.1 never been better.
Android 5.0.1
Default OTA 5.0.1 brings NFC active! When i turned it off, the battery became significantly more durable!
Just try it!
yosmokinman said:
^Agreed except for the last part.
Those apps that stop/freeze other apps like the one you mentioned, greenify, anything like that are all bull**** that cause more problems than they claim to fix, IMO.
Flash the factory image. Don't take the ota or keep data when its a major new release.
Battery life is awesome on 5.0.1 never been better.
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If you disable the 3 common service locks keeping the device from sleeping there have been no problems so far for me on n5 or n7
And yes greenify is worthless autorun manager not so much
^Yeah I see what you're saying. But still I don't like interfering with system apps, well like play services I mean. That can cause problems and battery drain. It really depends on how you use the tablet.
Edit: And obviously like said don't be closing running/cached apps. This isn't Windows 98.
collin5022 said:
Hey All,
I'm just wondering if anybody else is experiencing this issue. Since upgrading to Lollipop, my Nexus 7 battery loses FAR MORE battery while idle than when I was on KitKat. I was hoping that 5.0.1 would fix this issue, but I seem to be having the same problem. It's entirely unacceptable that I go to sleep with 31% battery, and wake up with the tablet DEAD. I have kept a close eye on Running Applications, and have made sure to close them all before leaving the tablet alone. So much for Project Volta...
Anybody else having a similar experience?
Thanks,
Collin
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Well I fixed it by flashing the unofficial cyanogen mod build for the Nexus 7. Battery life back to 4 days like I'm used to, and no idle drain.
Sent from my precious aka Nexus 7 using xda app. Any errors in the post are caused by auto correct and as such are Larry Page's fault, not mine.
I have the same issue something is keeping mine from sleeping cause its always warm. I used to get 5 days now I only get 3.
Hi all,
I am using the international version of the G4 and the battery life is quite poor. I am not a heavy user, bit of social media, music for a couple of hours and a little internet. I need to charge at around 3pm or it won't last until 7pm.
I've previously been very active in the modding of Samsung devices, but kept this un-rooted until now.
I am considering either rooting or flashing a custom ROM to get better battery life. I am more than happy with the G4 UI, so this is purely for power purposes.
Does anyone have a recommendation? Is it best to root and tweak or just flash a decent ROM? I had my eye on the 7 HD ROM.
Would appreciate some help.
Thanks!
When you want to stay by the stock rom, than its my experience to do nothing...
The nice CTT Mod gives you a little bit more performance and less heat but more battery draining :/
A costume rom can help because less usage of the cpu. But the stock rom is so nice ^^
Do you use the original charger? When I use my old Sony Ericsson 0,7A charger I have the feeling that the battery doesnt have the normal power....
T1bolus said:
When you want to stay by the stock rom, than its my experience to do nothing...
The nice CTT Mod gives you a little bit more performance and less heat but more battery draining :/
A costume rom can help because less usage of the cpu. But the stock rom is so nice ^^
Do you use the original charger? When I use my old Sony Ericsson 0,7A charger I have the feeling that the battery doesnt have the normal power....
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, it's the original charger, so no issues there. I think it's a G4 issue rather than my device as I had it swapped out recently and it's very similar on the battery life.
I am leaning towards doing nothing with Android 6 coming in December.
Buy the xperia z5 premium. Cant go wrong
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That's really helpful, thanks!
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I am using the international version of the G4 and the battery life is quite poor. I am not a heavy user, bit of social media, music for a couple of hours and a little internet. I need to charge at around 3pm or it won't last until 7pm
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- Tell us your screen on time and your run time at the end of the cycle iw when battery is around 5-10%. Look in settings, battery, look at the list for screen click it and it should tell you how long its been on. Better still, post screen grabs of the battery usage, showing the graph of your usage with the list below it, so we can see which apps are the top consumers.AND the one with the screen showing how long its been on.
- Are you using this on wifi only, data only or a mix of the two ? how high is your brightness. auto adjusts and isn't very meaningful. so put it on manual and tell us what figure you are comfortable with.
- how much screen on time you need as well as run time so we can tell how close or far it is from your expectations.
- how long have you had the G4, how many charge cycles has it had. If you've had it for a while, is this something that developed after some time or was it always like this since you got it.
There are a lot of reasons battery can be low, we know very little about your use right now.
Screen 16%
Android OS 13%
Phone 11% (haven't actually made a call today)
Android System 9%
Spotify 9%
Google Play Services 6%
Cell Standby 5%
I'm using it mostly on 3G/4G, but turning wifi on when needed.
The phone one is a bit curious....
Sorry i need to see time figures in hours and minutes. percentages tell me nothing.
when the battery is 5-10 % how long is your sot.
And how long has it been runnning.
How long have you had this device ?
3g/4g is going to take a toll on the battery depending on the signal, whether you are stationary or moving when accessing data.
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Does anyone have a recommendation? Is it best to root and tweak or just flash a decent ROM? I had my eye on the 7 HD ROM.
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Better to get it running normally under stock first. And i don't know if thats the case right now.
Really appreciate the help, thank you. Let me get some screenshots up.
barrygoddard said:
Screen 16%
Android OS 13%
Phone 11% (haven't actually made a call today)
Android System 9%
Spotify 9%
Google Play Services 6%
Cell Standby 5%
I'm using it mostly on 3G/4G, but turning wifi on when needed.
The phone one is a bit curious....
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Android os sounds like autosync+GPS
Phone sounds like fast dormancy
Android system looks normal at 9% but still need a sot / time the phone was on for the period u recorded those stats.
Might wanna have a go at BBS and give us something solid to look at, that alone will help a great deal in solving the issue
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