Anyone else got this? My battery should be fully charged in the morning with the green light on - but the battery is 91% (or 94% or 99%). Then if I plug the charger it jumps from 91% to 100% in seconds.
Just hope its just waiting few cycles to calibrate or something... :/
Yeah, it seems to sort itself out after a few charges.
same with mine, only just happened after the update
I have something else to share about battery charging after update. I usually charge my phone from my computer's usb port during the night.
However after the update USB charging is much slower than before. It would take about 4 hours to charge from empty, but since the updates it only charges with a rate of 13% every hour so it takes more than 7 hours to fully charge from empty.
Anybody else noticed this?
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I have something else to share about battery charging after update. I usually charge my phone from my computer's usb port during the night.
However after the update USB charging is much slower than before. It would take about 4 hours to charge from empty, but since the updates it only charges with a rate of 13% every hour so it takes more than 7 hours to fully charge from empty.
Anybody else noticed this?
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yeah, ive had these same exact issues. its so annoying. its just not worth charging via PC usb any more
The GTalk issue is out there again, not sure if its the culprit? I have unchecked the 'automatically sign in' and logged out, but it keeps turning on and logging me in by itself. Im sure its one of the reasons for the battery drain. Anyone else with this?
This morning it dropped from 100% to 88% in less than two hours without really doing anything with the phone...
this whole 'stopping charging till 90% once its reached 100%' issue is rediculous. I cant believe that HTC have added this to the update (cos it didnt happen before) for a phone where users rarely get a days usage out of the phone battery anyway! Now you even stand the chance of starting the day with 10% less charge than you should....rediculous!
if its something they want to include then thats fine, but at least give us the option of turning it off
This is from a german forum:
Let the phone empty the battery until it switch off for its own. Switch on again and do a new boot until the phone is switch off again. When switched off charge the battery completely with the original charger.
... and the 90% issue is gone
I have a second battery I never used before. Im going to put it to charge tonight - and let it do few complete full/drained cycles. Hope works ok.
Wonder if everyone else has the persistent GTalk on? I dont want it!! Arghhhhh....
I have the same issue with mine Desire after updating last week,just get the green light for a full charge and after a few minutes I check my battery widget and lol 10 % are gone.Any chances for fixing that issue?I would appreciate if anyone give a helpful advice.thanx in advance.cheers
zahari said:
I have the same issue with mine Desire after updating last week,just get the green light for a full charge and after a few minutes I check my battery widget and lol 10 % are gone.Any chances for fixing that issue?I would appreciate if anyone give a helpful advice.thanx in advance.cheers
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look up at post #8 and give that a try. Thats what im gonna do and im sure people will report back on here after theyve tried it to see if it works
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This is from a german forum:
Let the phone empty the battery until it switch off for its own. Switch on again and do a new boot until the phone is switch off again. When switched off charge the battery completely with the original charger.
... and the 90% issue is gone
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this didnt work with me...still have the 90% issue
Look to this thread, we are talking about the same issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689861
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this didnt work with me...still have the 90% issue
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The same here...
do we have new info about this issue ?
Is this such a huge issue then? I mean, sure you want it to show the correct %. But does it affect the total duration in any way?
The 10% can eventually level out when being used. I wonder if the device is at e.g. 30% it should actually be 40% in this case, or the 30% is actually quite accurate.
The % is an estimate to give a better representation how much there is left rather than just following the voltage drop. But in the end it will most probably be the voltage that makes the device decide whether or not the battery is empty.
Don't be silly, ofcourse this is a huge issue, did u ever seen such a issue on any other device, even devices of 5$ dont have this strange behavior.
Phone from such class to have such a problem, this is annoying.
And rather iPhone4 signal strenth issue i think here problem is software and it will be fixed
Comon, a 'huge issue'?! It's merely some % figure that's not shown correctly.
Oh well, I guess it's a compliment for the Desire then.. if 10% off is a huge issue, the rest can't be so bad!
Devices of $5 are really bad in showing correct percentages really. One part of the % goes fast, other slow and then suddenly fast again (you know, 1 out of 3 blocks left but flat battery in no-time, while the second block lasted hours and hours). Just because a device says it's 100% loaded, it doesn't mean it's actually correct.
That's why I wondered: Does it actually affect battery performance. If it does, then (and only then) you can call it a 'huge issue'. Otherwise I would just call it a minor annoyance. But obviously stuff like this might be personal eh!
But I'm quite convinced as well this is a software problem and can be fixed. I just don't think it will be very high on the HTC priority list
Ok, i agree its minor annoyance, but anyway it's annoying at least to me, you are right, this percentage may be fake, but for me it will be better if they show me real battery load
cheers
ps. i saw in your signature u r 1.15.405.4 - do u have this behavior on it ?
Well, the Desire is gone to be replaced now. But I didn't have this problem with my old Desire. Then that one got replaced (because HTC scratched it), and the new one did have this problem.
But now the Desire is off again because of weird touchscreen problem, so lets see how the new one holds up
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As you can see from my capture, while on the ac charging, the percentage suddenly drops for no reason...its not like it discharges and charges back up, it drops and stays there...is this a problem with my device?
Was flashed to stock root froyo recently.
Hi,
I have same issue...
It's a rooted Froyo Stock Rom. It drops from 100% to 90% and continues charging.
Tim
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What application is that? Would like to see on my device, too.
Thanks.
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What application is that? Would like to see on my device, too.
Thanks.
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My Screenshot is from JuicePlotter:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-latedroid-juiceplotter-wntF.aspx
More data here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=689861
It is a known issue, acutally many claim it is not a problem. If you leave your desire on ac charge (for ex: overnight) when it reached %100 and stays there for a certain period of time it starts using phones battery. Then it chrages again until it reached to 100% and the same cycle starts. People say it is to increase batterys life because contiues charging decreases battery life.
I believe it started with 1.21 update, when I was on 1.15 this thing never happened. However, since I installed 1.21 and froyo same cycle happens to my device as well.
Thanks for explanation and link!
Thanks for the explanations. Helps a lot.
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My Screenshot is from JuicePlotter:
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-latedroid-juiceplotter-wntF.aspx
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Excellent - downloaded it. Installed.
Will see how it goes.
Harnec said:
More data here;
It is a known issue, acutally many claim it is not a problem. If you leave your desire on ac charge (for ex: overnight) when it reached %100 and stays there for a certain period of time it starts using phones battery. Then it chrages again until it reached to 100% and the same cycle starts. People say it is to increase batterys life because contiues charging decreases battery life.
I believe it started with 1.21 update, when I was on 1.15 this thing never happened. However, since I installed 1.21 and froyo same cycle happens to my device as well.
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Thanks for the reply, the only problem is in my case, it doesn't seem to charge back up to 100% after the drop. Also mine doesn't seem to discharge; it is a sudden drop from full to 90% while having the fully charged LED green. Do you think its a problem with my battery?
I hope its possible for the developers here ( or maybe at HTC ? hehe ..) to make a fix for this , as some people saying a software update started the whole thing.
and if its a "feature" , people should have the choice wether to have it or not.
I'd rather change my battery after 6 months or something like that then have 92-95% in the morning.
Same here. Not sure if HTC acknowledges this...but it doesn't seem to affect that many desire users apparently so it could be a bug.
I also have a strange problem with my HTC devices (Desire and HTC HD2).Both of them are running froyo.It seems that when leave them charging overnight,the next morning when i wake up i went to check out my phones and they happen to be at 96% charged only.I was pretty scared that my battery's starting to fail me
Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
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toyanucci said:
Drain the battery down to below 5% then charge it to 100 and it should be fine. It happened to me once and after a full charge after a full drain it never did it again
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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This is what worries me.
I drained the battery and charged it fully powered off. It did it again. I drained the battery and charged it fully powered on. It did it again.
If I'm using it for browsing, papyrus, images etc its fine. This happens only in games and when i reboot the battery percentage is ok again.
strange....
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I had the exact same problem as you are describing but additionally, my overall battery life wasn't lasting as long as it should either. I ended up sending it to Samsung's repair center to get fixed. I'm not sure what they did but some other people on the forums suggested it was a motherboard issue.
So the capacity of the battery seemed just fine but the readings were crazy (dropping from 50 to 5 in minutes and then on reboot back on 50).
After 2-3 full cycles of charging nothing changed. Flashed fw nothing changed. Went to Samsung service and they just informed me that they changed the battery and now performing final checks.
Hope this will solve the issue. I'm too lucky that I am in the "6 months warranty" window for battery...
How does one go about sending it into Samsung? After getting it back, did you see a significant change?
I've been debating doing this but wasn't sure how to go about it.
I haven't got it back yet. They just called me and they said that apart from the battery, they need to change another part (the telephone operator didn't know which part) and I'm going to receive it tomorrow.
So I'll let you know once I receive it.
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Dear all,
Recently my Note is facing a weird problem. While my son is playing a game, the battery drops 20-30% in 10 minutes. If I shut down the tablet and re-power then the battery goes to normal again.
In the battery stats I can see a huge drop during game usage and then up again on reboot.
I performed a factory reset but the same happens....
I flashed the Kit Kat via Odin.... but the same
Any ideas?
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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Did you fix the problem ? I have the same problem and i don't know how to fix it. (i am with 4.3 not rooted).
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After trying everything (flashing different roms via odin, factory reset, full battery cycles etc) the problem never went away.
Went to Samsung service. They checked the battery and had to replace it.... within the warranty.
Same issue here. Just got an email saying its fixed. They changed the charging port and lcd. Weird that they replaced the lcd.
Well I got it back. Seems they broke the s pen function when taking it out or putting in. The tablet thinks it's always out of its slot. I guess another 2 weeks without this thing. What a pain in the ass. Times like this makes me wish I bought an ipad where I could just walk into the store and get it fixed that day.
I had the same problem. I sent it back on Monday and got it back 7 days later. They did not say what they changed, but now everything is working fine. I even got a new usb cable and a magnetic Germany flag
I sent mine in for an overheating problem and they changed the charging port and gave me a new cable. I initially also had the random drops in battery but seems to be better now.. They said bad voltage going to charging the battery or something. Still have overheating so gotta send it in again?
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So guys did you get it fixed? I have exactly the same problem. I have sent it to fix at the sam service - they changed the charging port, but it didn't help anything. 1,5 years of normal usage and now I can pretty much throw it into the toilet. God damn POS!
Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 battery drops
Hello all,
Just wanted to inform you all that I have been experiencing these battery drops (yesterday from 93% to a mere 5% in a matter of minutes) for a very long time now. I am running under the latest 4.4.2 stock firmware.
Also, battery life is way below par (understatement !), where the Note sometimes drops to around or below 5% (the magic number below which the screen starts to dim pretty dramatically and there's no way to influence that)
Funny thing is that after the battery drops to below 5% or even 1 or 2%, it's still possible to use the tablet for quite a number of hours afterwards, which suggests it may be something with the logic estimating/determining the remaining battery capacity, rather than the battery itself....)
Now I've tried draining the battery and fully recharging it multiple times/ resetting the stats using free apps / revert to factory settings etc.
All to no avail unfortunately, this problem simply keeps coming back.
(By the way: Apart from the battery and battery life, the Note is an excellent device, and delivers as promised.
Please also note that charging it through the microUSB cable is also simple, stable and relatively fast, unless you compare it of course to my all new Samsung Galaxy Note 4, which has a superior fast charge mode and offers the highest possible battery-life at this moment and easily beats any other smartphone (including the usual suspects from that Cupertino-based firm of which I can't force my mind to remember the name of.....) in this price-quality and performance category )
As for warranty:
Battery is no longer under warranty, the device itself is.
As such, I will now get the battery replaced by a new Samsung OEM-battery first, and see if that resolves the issue.
If it doesn't help, I will send it in for repair for Samsung.
I will keep you all informed on the resolution and cause.
Likewise, if there's anyone that has gotten to the root cause of this issue, please let me / let us know
Some users reported some 'magic part' OTHER than the battery itself (motherboard / charging circuit or even the lcd ??) having been replaced by Samsung after sending it in for repair.
That information could be very valuable to us all in trying to get Samsung to resolve the issue, so I would really appreciate it if someone would share this info in this thread.
Hey I know that there hasn't been much activity on this particular thread, but i too have been experiencing this problem for over a year now. I sent it into samsung twice and it still never fixed the issue and by the time i was going to send it in the 3rd time it was out of warranty. I personally removed the back cover and unplugged the battery for a while and that did not help. I have tried flashing different ROMS and kernels to no avail until last week. I flashed Temasek's Unofficial Build found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...t/lt03wifi-temaseks-unofficial-build-t2980604 and after 3 full power cycles i have not had a single random drop yet i even managed to go 3 days with 6 hours of screen on time which is a record for me with this device. Not sure if it will help everyone but this seems to have solved my problem and i am thrilled! Also (as embarrassing as it is) i played 2.5 hours of Clash of Clans straight without a single random drop either.
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
KwestJones said:
I am beginning to have the issue as well on my P605v. Has there been any progress with your battery replacement? @mroset
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Hello KwestJones,
I've successfully replaced the battery in the Note 10.1 2014, and it has improved things. With a little care, this is easy to do. Just removing the battery connector is a bit typical, you need to lift it carefully and slightly to remove it.
The result is not as drastic of an improvement as I would like to have seen, but at least the sudden drops in battery capacity percentage seem to be under control now.
I am doing a video test now, and will see how it behaves and let you know.
BR,
Maarten
Very curious to hear if replacing the battery corrected this issue. I've been experiencing this same battery drop issue for 2 or 3 months and the unit is well outside of warranty. Hoping there's a simpler fix, but willing to replace the battery if that will work since the tablet itself is still a great unit.
Complete factory reset should clear the Android Coulometer's data base or learning algorithm. Just clearing options of Battery Monitor Widget for rooted devices won't help. There are some other apps, which seem to help if the charge level never reaches 100%, a related, but not identical problem.
I have an old tablet suffering from this, with a tweaked custom rom, and i didn't want to clear and setup that completely. The algorithm or database is "learning" again, and the capacity jumps have become fewer and smaller over the last months. It should depend on how long the device was used and never reset before the incident. In my case over a year.
Itvs much like my cars fuel calculator, which won't work correctly during traffic light stops. Right after starting the engine, fuel consumption can raise several liters/h, when the car don't drive, as it uses the last sampled value(every 30 meters). And you need several kilometers to drive to have these levels drop to realistic ones again. While after a long driving distance, a traffic light stop will hardly have an influence.
Hi Folks
i'm really hoping someone can help me on this, i have a note2 that ive had for about 2 years, its been rooted for around 8 months but still on the stock ROM, the past month i have had a strange problem with the battery, when the battery runs out or gets low and i turn the phone off to charge it the large green battery icon comes up on the screen, but even though the battery is dead or just about, the large battery icon says its got about 75%?, it charges up and i wait until it reaches 100% before unplugging it.
But i know that it used to show the correct amount of charge in the battery and then gradually build up, i have tried various battery calibration apps but none seem to make any difference, i didnt think they would having read up on them but thought it was worth a try.
Do you think its the battery itself?, i just dont know what to try next
Thanks
Pete
The battery charging doesnt work properley on modded bootloaders as far as I know. You need to charge while phone is booted.
aah, but it does charge when its powered down, and this problem only started about a month ago, yet the phone has been rooted a lot longer than that?
Thanks for replying
Pete
I also have same problem anyone knows solution for this???
Hi guys -
My 8.4 has been driving me crazy for the past week. It is not rooted, running the stock Samsung image. The battery percentage seems to be wildly inaccurate. I've read through many of the battery threads here (most seem to deal with the inability to charge completely), but I have noticed some that seem to resemble my problem. The solution seems to be to pop the back off and replug the battery. I have not done that, and frankly, I don't think that's the issue here.
Symptoms: Battery appears to drain unevenly - will drop several 10's of % instantaneously during mixed use, and sometimes level off again. I haven't found any runaway processes. Bottom line, overall less then expected battery life followed by the system shutting down. HOWEVER, if I then reboot, it will boot up anywhere between about 5 and 30% remaining - and will continue to run. Sometimes it will drain quickly again, other times it will run for several more hours. Sometimes if I connect the charger after shutdown, it will immediately jump to 40% upon reboot.
Experiment: Drain battery smoothly after a full charge by looping a local video, and track battery percentage and voltage. When system automatically shuts down, reboot (it pops back to 30% or whatever) and continue. Keep rebooting and running until a reboot registers 0% and immediately shuts back down.
Result: Battery drains VERY evenly and consistently. It's only the android percentage that seems to be erratic and cause the system to shut down. I've attached a graph of what I see. The spikes represent points where I rebooted. Blue line = battery percentage (left axis), orange line = battery voltage in mV (right axis)
So given this, I'm having a hard time believing it's a battery connection issue. My uneducated guess is that unplugging the battery works for some because it forces android to recalibrate the battery meter. I've been unsuccessful in getting it to recal by charge/discharge cycles.
Does anyone have any thoughts or ideas on what I should do next? Is there a way to force a recal of the 0% point without rooting? As a side note, I find it odd that my Nexus 7 simply doesn't boot when it hits zero - just shows a battery symbol. Seems odd that the Samsung let's me constantly boot the thing.
Any thoughts would be appreciated!!
Mike
MikeNE said:
Hi guys -.....,..................
Mike
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Hi! I own a tab S and some users get this problem also on the tab pro. Its something with the battery connection to the device which causes the gauge to be all wonky. Usually problems like you described need to be replaced by Samsung. If you are under warranty, then they'll replace it for free of charge. Better to be extra safe! Hope this helps!
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Hi! I own a tab S and some users get this problem also on the tab pro. Its something with the battery connection to the device which causes the gauge to be all wonky. Usually problems like you described need to be replaced by Samsung. If you are under warranty, then they'll replace it for free of charge. Better to be extra safe! Hope this helps!
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Thanks...yeah, I saw all the comments about the battery connection. As I said in my post, I'm still struggling to believe that it's a connection issue when the battery voltage - reported through a battery widget - is very reliable and steady. It's only the percentage that's wrong. Sounds more like a software issue to me. If it was a connection issue, I'd think the battery voltage would be all over the place too.
Frankly, I'd rather not send it in if I can avoid it (no service centers local). I'd like to explore all possible other options first. Any other ideas on how to force a real recalibration?
Thanks,
Mike
MikeNE said:
Thanks...yeah, I saw all the comments about the battery connection. As I said in my post, I'm still struggling to believe that it's a connection issue when the battery voltage - reported through a battery widget - is very reliable and steady. It's only the percentage that's wrong. Sounds more like a software issue to me. If it was a connection issue, I'd think the battery voltage would be all over the place too.
Frankly, I'd rather not send it in if I can avoid it (no service centers local). I'd like to explore all possible other options first. Any other ideas on how to force a real recalibration?
Thanks,
Mike
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When your device is fully charged, My guess is to turn your brightness up to the max and open an app that's like intense graphical games or Google earth. As long its stresses your CPU and GPU. That should make your battery drain really quick and cause random reboots because of the meter. Keep doing so till it reaches 0%. Then recharge. If that doesn't work then I don't know. I've done that many times after I flashed a custom ROM so it would calibrate. Doing that would draw all the power out hopefully
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When your device is fully charged, My guess is to turn your brightness up to the max and open an app that's like intense graphical games or Google earth. As long its stresses your CPU and GPU. That should make your battery drain really quick and cause random reboots because of the meter. Keep doing so till it reaches 0%. Then recharge. If that doesn't work then I don't know. I've done that many times after I flashed a custom ROM so it would calibrate. Doing that would draw all the power out hopefully
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Ok...I gave up. I've tried the drain thing multiple ways. I don't want to root the thing or install a custom ROM because I won't be able to use it on my company network. I called Samsung and set up a return. What really bothers me about this is that without an explanation, it's likely to just happen again -because again, I'm still convinced it's software related.
Thanks anyway,
Mike
Sorry to hear that. Please come back when your device is returned from RMA and tell us how it's doing...
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Sorry to hear that. Please come back when your device is returned from RMA and tell us how it's doing...
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Will do Calvin - thanks. For the record, I tried one more thing before I boxed it up. I reflashed the firmware with Samsung Kies3. It all went smoothly, and I had high hopes....but shortly after logging in to start setting it up, the battery immediately dropped from 99 to 88....so no luck. I'll be shipping it out tomorrow. I'll post my findings when it returns.
Mike
Well guys - I got my GTP back earlier this week. The actually fixed it in one day and shipped it right back to me. Unfortunately, there was no explanation or description of the repair on any of the paperwork or their website - so I have no idea what they did. Regardless, it appears to be functioning normally now. I fully charged it when I got it, and then ran it down to zero through random usage throughout 2 days...and when it hit zero and shut off, that was it. It wouldn't turn on again (which is what I would expect). I charged it back up, and it's working fine again. So far, so good.
Bottom line, I guess I had some kind of a battery problem, but it appears to be working now. As I said before, I just hate problems with no explanation - it means they are likely to happen again. I guess time will tell...
Mike
Hi, I'm currently experiencing some problems with my Redmi Note 8 Pro.
I've had my phone for less than a month, and it's starting to get issues with the battery.
The battery, whether I charge it with the original wall charger, or I use a computer to charge it, or o use an alternative wall charger (that is for slow charge), it can't get to 100%.
It gets stuck at 99% and says, full charge in 2 minutes, even though the 2 minutes have passed long time ago.
I haven't done a full battery drain, and I always try to use a slow charge charger.
I also haven't done a full cycle without using the phone, maybe that's the problem.
But I'm worried, and I need some help, because I got the phone (as I said) less than a month ago, I haven't even payed the first installment.
I'm still within the seller's warranty, but I need some advices to what can I do, because returning the phone to the seller, to make a change, is gonna cost me 15 to 20 days. And I don't have any other phone to use.
Please, if someone can give me some advice, or tell me what to do, it's completely welcome.
Thanks.
And by the way, I'm using the Global 128Gb version, if that helps.
Edit 29/01/2020: I did a full discharge, because I couldn't read the quotes earlier, and I didn't realize how big the problem could be. Now, the phone can't go over 79%.
I didn't expected this issue with my RN8P, but with other phones (cheap noname ones).
A discharge to around 5%, and a full charge without unplugging did the trick for me.
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Hi, I'm currently experiencing some problems with my Redmi Note 8 Pro.
I've had my month for less than a month, and it's starting to get issues with the battery.
The battery, whether I charge it with the original wall charger, or I use a computer to charge it, or o use an alternative wall charger (that is for slow charge), it can't get to 100%.
It gets stuck at 99% and says, full charge in 2 minutes, even though the 2 minutes have passed long time ago.
I haven't done a full battery drain, and I always try to use a slow charge charger.
I also haven't done a full cycle without using the phone, maybe that's the problem.
But I'm worried, and I need some help, because I got the phone (as I said) less than a month ago, I haven't even payed the first installment.
I'm still within the seller's warranty, but I need some advices to what can I do, because returning the phone to the seller, to make a change, is gonna cost me 15 to 20 days. And I don't have any other phone to use.
Please, if someone can give me some advice, or tell me what to do, it's completely welcome.
Thanks.
And by the way, I'm using the Global 128Gb version, if that helps.
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When I cannot tell if its some HW related problem with your phone or battery but I am really wondering why you want to do full charges (and/or discharges)? It is known to wear battery way faster. Li-on or Li-po batteries do not have memory effects and it is known to be best to always keep them charge for example between 15-20% and 80-85% trying to never get bellow or above.
This phone has a pretty big battery, that normally should be enough to bring you through a day of normal use (if it does not you may want to check your hungry apps running in the bg) but maybe you are an heavy gamer or use your phone for some heavy usage stuff?
Even then, it would be best to do 2 quick 15 to 50-60% in about 30 mins with QC2 (18W original Wall charger) rather than one unique full charge.
Looking at what you said with slow charging you probably know all of that already, but the faster you charge the battery, even if same %, the faster it will discharge. As odd as it is, remains factual.
I dont know if you ever used an external amperemeter or similar to check what kind of current was actually going through your battery while charging, but if you do you will notice the first % goes way faster to charge than the last few %. The chip dealing with the battery charge, charges slower and slower toward the end because it could damage the battery, when on the opposite it is rather safe to quick charge the % in the middle.
Also you may want to check your alternative 'slow wall charger' to make sure it provides you with a steady voltage current (V). If it is fluctuating too much, it may damage your battery.
If you want to do further research about the subject, there is a note on the RN8PRO Telegram group explaining how to calibrate your battery by deleting some system files (root needed as far as I remember) and having some charges/discharges steps. Personally I have not done it because it requires to go to 100% and 0% a few times, and depleting a Li-ion/Li-po battery completely can damage it irreversibly. They are not meant to be discharged fully period. Now battery should not be completely drained when OS takes the phone off, that said we never know for sure since we cannot change that setting unlike on our windows laptops, but I dont want to take the risk.
When you are stuck to 99% it kind of looks to be the OS not being able to know if the battery is fully charged or not. In that state of things, have you tried to turn off the device without unplugging to see if the off-mode charging screen (the small battery screen with % when you turn your phone off) also remains at 99% or gets to 100% at some point? Because maybe all you need is to restart the phone to make OS aware the battery is fully charged. Could be a SW known/unknown issue/bug to be fixed with future updates for all I know.
But again, I don't think you should fully charge and/or discharge (if you do) your phone when you can avoid it.
Just my 2 cents.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
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I didn't expected this issue with my RN8P, but with other phones (cheap noname ones).
A discharge to around 5%, and a full charge without unplugging did the trick for me.
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I tried it, and... it got worse.
Now it can't go over 79%. :c
Thanks for trying to help anyways.
Muad.Dib said:
When I cannot tell if its some HW related problem with your phone or battery but I am really wondering why you want to do full charges (and/or discharges)? It is known to wear battery way faster. Li-on or Li-po batteries do not have memory effects and it is known to be best to always keep them charge for example between 15-20% and 80-85% trying to never get bellow or above.
This phone has a pretty big battery, that normally should be enough to bring you through a day of normal use (if it does not you may want to check your hungry apps running in the bg) but maybe you are an heavy gamer or use your phone for some heavy usage stuff?
Even then, it would be best to do 2 quick 15 to 50-60% in about 30 mins with QC2 (18W original Wall charger) rather than one unique full charge.
Looking at what you said with slow charging you probably know all of that already, but the faster you charge the battery, even if same %, the faster it will discharge. As odd as it is, remains factual.
I dont know if you ever used an external amperemeter or similar to check what kind of current was actually going through your battery while charging, but if you do you will notice the first % goes way faster to charge than the last few %. The chip dealing with the battery charge, charges slower and slower toward the end because it could damage the battery, when on the opposite it is rather safe to quick charge the % in the middle.
Also you may want to check your alternative 'slow wall charger' to make sure it provides you with a steady voltage current (V). If it is fluctuating too much, it may damage your battery.
If you want to do further research about the subject, there is a note on the RN8PRO Telegram group explaining how to calibrate your battery by deleting some system files (root needed as far as I remember) and having some charges/discharges steps. Personally I have not done it because it requires to go to 100% and 0% a few times, and depleting a Li-ion/Li-po battery completely can damage it irreversibly. They are not meant to be discharged fully period. Now battery should not be completely drained when OS takes the phone off, that said we never know for sure since we cannot change that setting unlike on our windows laptops, but I dont want to take the risk.
When you are stuck to 99% it kind of looks to be the OS not being able to know if the battery is fully charged or not. In that state of things, have you tried to turn off the device without unplugging to see if the off-mode charging screen (the small battery screen with % when you turn your phone off) also remains at 99% or gets to 100% at some point? Because maybe all you need is to restart the phone to make OS aware the battery is fully charged. Could be a SW known/unknown issue/bug to be fixed with future updates for all I know.
But again, I don't think you should fully charge and/or discharge (if you do) your phone when you can avoid it.
Just my 2 cents.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
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Hi Muad.Dib,
Well, I wanted to do that full charge a/o discharge because I thought it would help with the issue (turns out, it didn't, it got worse as you said) but I didn't know the effects of this before, I always thought it wouldn't have any effect. I wish I could have read your reply before doing it (I was busy and couldn't read it).
The battery lasts for more than a day (or it did before), and I always try to keep it clean from battery draining apps, and I don't play games that much on the phone, less than an hour per day.
Do you recommend me to do those 2 charges to 60% in my state? (phone can't get over 79% now).
I haven't ever used an amperemeter because I don't have one, and neither I do know how to use one of those.
If you can lend me a hand and give me the link to join the Telegram Group, it would very helpful ??. But I don't want to root the phone yet, cause the seller's warranty stills intact.
And yes, I have tried it and the off-mode charging screen keeps showing me 99% (or kept, because now it keeps at 79%). And I also tried few restarts and it didn't fixed it. :c
And I'm sorry, I wish I could've avoided it, but I read your reply too late.
Thanks for trying to help me anyways.
PS. I will try to do a factory reset to see if the MIUI update has something to do with the issue (because the seller told me to do it, and I will do it, though I don't think it could solve the issue). Please, if you have any advice before I do it, you could help me a lot. ( I'll do it something around 11:00 AM in GMT -03:00)
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Hi Muad.Dib,
Well, I wanted to do that full charge a/o discharge because I thought it would help with the issue (turns out, it didn't, it got worse as you said) but I didn't know the effects of this before, I always thought it wouldn't have any effect. I wish I could have read your reply before doing it (I was busy and couldn't read it).
The battery lasts for more than a day (or it did before), and I always try to keep it clean from battery draining apps, and I don't play games that much on the phone, less than an hour per day.
Do you recommend me to do those 2 charges to 60% in my state? (phone can't get over 79% now).
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Hey.
Very strange what is happening to you it's probably the first time I read about something like this.
Please note I am no battery expert either.
From own experience and friends, usually when you wear a battery (or it worn by itself after use or bad storage condition before being sold) it still goes up to 100% but does not retain original design capacity anymore. The usual behavior is like for example you still have like 30% left, and suddenly it drops to like 5% and you only have a few seconds to plug it in the charger.
When that's happens it is time to change battery.
In your case I really have no idea what could prevent HW/SW to reach 100%.
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I haven't ever used an amperemeter because I don't have one, and neither I do know how to use one of those.
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Oh those are easy to use as I meant some kind of small USB device that you plug in between your charger and your phone. They are cheap and you get them for like 10 bucks on Amazon. Readings might not be 100% accurate but they still give a decent idea as they display Voltage, Amperage and accumulated capacity/used current for device plugged.
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If you can lend me a hand and give me the link to join the Telegram Group, it would very helpful . But I don't want to root the phone yet, cause the seller's warranty stills intact.
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As I said I am nothing like an expert or anything so I am unsure what I can do to help. However I did check the telegram group and I confirm you the battery calibration thing is a rooted thing.
To find that group it is pretty easy just search for Redmi Note 8 Pro OFFICIAL from telegram and join the group.
You find quite a few things there.
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And yes, I have tried it and the off-mode charging screen keeps showing me 99% (or kept, because now it keeps at 79%). And I also tried few restarts and it didn't fixed it. :c
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Normally nothing you could have done, could have damaged the battery this way. Depleting it completely could have shorten its life or damage its overall capacity, but by all means there is no way in just a month you could have damaged the battery to this point. So either the OS is not reading things right (what version of OS and phone do you have - which region is your rom?) or either sensors or battery have a problem.
Since you still are under warranty period I would definitely get it replaced. Maybe you got a faulty batch or something. This happens.
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PS. I will try to do a factory reset to see if the MIUI update has something to do with the issue (because the seller told me to do it, and I will do it, though I don't think it could solve the issue). Please, if you have any advice before I do it, you could help me a lot. ( I'll do it something around 11:00 AM in GMT -03:00)
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This definitely cannot hurt to try.
If that does not work return the phone.
Just to know, based on your flag I would assume you are in Chile but I may be wrong. If I am not mistaking it is summer there and probably is pretty hot. I wonder if 'too hot' could damage the battery.
Hope this helps.
Regards,