[Q][SOLVED] Question about unlocked phones in the UK? - G4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
I've never purchased a Unlocked Flagship and This might be a silly question..
I'm thinking about purchasing the Device from Carphonewarehouse(In the UK), Which are Sim-Free.
If I insert my sim from G2 (Which I have on contract), Would they still control OTAs for the G4?
Or would I get updates (Almost) instantly as they roll out from LG?
Sorry for the silly question!
Regards,
J.

Hi
No question is silly. You would get updates as they are rolled out by LG rather than a carrier specific update because the update will be linked to your phone rather than you carrier which would be the case if you had bought the phone as part of a contract
Hope that helps
Nik

Nikesh1980 said:
Hi
No question is silly. You would get updates as they are rolled out by LG rather than a carrier specific update because the update will be linked to your phone rather than you carrier which would be the case if you had bought the phone as part of a contract
Hope that helps
Nik
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Quite right, I actually got mine from Carphonewarehouse and it was updated out of the box to the latest release from LG.

IIIIkoolaidIIII said:
Quite right, I actually got mine from Carphonewarehouse and it was updated out of the box to the latest release from LG.
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That's superb, Thank you both for the answers!
I've only ever had Contract upgrades so I didn't know how the updates worked with Unlocked ones.

Even contract phones(except iPhone) are simfree from Carphone Warehouse.
I just got my G4 from there today.

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[Q] T-Mobile UK - Unbranded?

I'm thinking of getting the DHD, but before I do can others in the UK who have one on T-Mobile confirm that it's totally unbranded please?
Thanks!
Confirmed that it's totally unbranded.
However it would be useful for you be informed it's network locked.
Mines unbranded unlocked (sim free) although I had mine in the FIRST few days of release.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
I got mine a week ago and its unbranded, no sin to check network lock though
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Get it from CPW ot P4U and it'll be unbranded. I believe, as has been said, all the early ones even from the operators are unbranded but no telling what will happen in the next few months.
Dave - unbranded Vodafone DHD from CPW
PS: the above applies to contract and SIM only. Not necessarily to PAYG (was in the shop today talking about a new phone for my old man...)
Mine was un branded but Sim locked
Ok, thanks for the replies. That's great.
Desire HD ordered How long did you guys have to wait for stock & delivery?
yep, mine was unbranded and unlocked from tmobile
I was told by T-Mob that I would have to wait till January for the DHD. On that basis I ordered from mobiles.co.uk instead and got the phone on next day delivery. However, looking on T-Mob site now it appears they have them back in stock.
Daz555 said:
I was told by T-Mob that I would have to wait till January for the DHD. On that basis I ordered from mobiles.co.uk instead and got the phone on next day delivery. However, looking on T-Mob site now it appears they have them back in stock.
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Yeah, I considered elsewhere but they (T-Mobile) did me a good deal as an upgrade. I wonder if they are saying they have them in stock on the T-Mobile site when they haven't or are giving them to new contracts only...
iridium21 said:
Ok, thanks for the replies. That's great.
Desire HD ordered How long did you guys have to wait for stock & delivery?
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Ordered on a Friday afternoon, got it on Monday the following week but that was before they were officially listed as available on the site. Make sure you take a look at the hardware issues like camera misalignment and small gaps between the battery cover. I'm waiting until about January before I send mine off for warranty repair over it since I figure they'll have more stock and I'll have to wait less time.
At risk of sounding like a noob, can I ask: doesn't unbranded mean the phone has no mention of the network at all?
If it does my t-mobile desire HD (ordered 1st december) certainly isn't unbranded, as it says t-mobile on booting and shutting down, and has a 'T-Mobile Recommends' app.
Not to mention the homepage on the internet browser was set to T-Mobile's mobile site when I got it.
Or does it just mean that T-Mobile isn't actually printed on the phone?
PeatCoal said:
At risk of sounding like a noob, can I ask: doesn't unbranded mean it has no mention of the network at all? If it does my t-mobile desire HD (ordered 1st december) certainly isn't unbranded, as it says t-mobile on booting and shutting down, and has a 'T-Mobile Recommends app, as well as the homepage on the internet browser being set to T-Mobile's mobile site when I got it.
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Ah, as far as I'm concerned, that's branded It doesn't actually say "T-Mobile" on the phone too, does it? That really would p**s me off!
I've never had a 'branded' phone before, so how does one go about repairs - can you send it straight to HTC or do you have to go through T-Mobile?
Oh, and any tips for flashing a stock ROM?
iridium21 said:
Ah, as far as I'm concerned, that's branded It doesn't actually say "T-Mobile" on the phone too, does it? That really would p**s me off!
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Haha, don't worry, its software only..
From what I can gather, maybe you can flash a custom ROM? The t-mobile apps can at least be deleted with titanium backup.
Dyonas said:
Ordered on a Friday afternoon, got it on Monday the following week but that was before they were officially listed as available on the site. Make sure you take a look at the hardware issues like camera misalignment and small gaps between the battery cover. I'm waiting until about January before I send mine off for warranty repair over it since I figure they'll have more stock and I'll have to wait less time.
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What exactly is the camera misalignment issue? My camera lens isn't centered, is this a problem, or is it normal? Haven't noticed any problems with it from actually using the camera..
As for the small gaps, if you're referring to the SIM cover, I never had a problem with it after reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=827091 before I got the HD.
Got my DHD today - unlocked & unbranded
I'm happy!

Question about firmware updates

I got a G4 a month or so ago through Craigslist. The guy I met up with got the phone early through some kind of LG early adopter program. The phone is in perfect shape and everything works great.
I'm noticing that I still don't have a stagefright patch though. This is an unbranded, unlocked phone. I'm not sure why LG Bridge doesn't have an update for me, but people with carrier branded G4s have stagefright fixes.
Is there a firmware update I should manually apply or am I just being impatient?
Doing the check here: http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=
It says I'm LG H815 AUSAVKS if it helps. Anyone else with this same model?
Thank you in advance!
Here's a screenshot of software info... figure I should probably include this.
I'm using a carrier branded G4, from Sprint, and there is no stagefright patch available yet (to my knowledge). That T-mobile fix you posted was just a matter of hours ago right? Maybe the carriers are starting to roll out the updates shortly, and maybe LG will include an update for unbranded?
May be the case. It seems unusual for carrier branded phones to get an update before unbranded... even if it's only a matter of hours. Generally carrier branded means more QA testing and therefore delayed availability.

Bell Canada Firmware update 1.53

Got my phone on April 29th only received one update so far which was on launch day. Im on 1.21.666.1
I was wondering if i can use the htc unlocked NA RUU from their website to upgrade my firmware?
Contacted bell about the update they have no clue...i dont think they are selling well in Canada...i dont think they are taking the firmware update seriously so i was looking at other options.
I would really appreciate it if someone can help me
Thank You
***RECEIVED THE OTA UPDATE IN THE MORNING MAY 26TH***
obk88 said:
Got my phone on April 29th only received one update so far which was on launch day. Im on 1.21.666.1
I was wondering if i can use the htc unlocked NA RUU from their website to upgrade my firmware?
Contacted bell about the update they have no clue...i dont think they are selling well in Canada...i dont think they are taking the firmware update seriously so i was looking at other options.
I would really appreciate it if someone can help me
Thank You
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Until rogers and telus picks up this phone, updates are going to be slow. I heard they might in june but from the slow sales there's a possibility they won't.
malek777 said:
Until rogers and telus picks up this phone, updates are going to be slow. I heard they might in june but from the slow sales there's a possibility they won't.
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the exclusivity ends on july 1st...hopefully Rogers picks it up...i think its selling decent in the US but its out on more carriers as well
obk88 said:
the exclusivity ends on july 1st...hopefully Rogers picks it up...i think its selling decent in the US but its out on more carriers as well
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Agreed. A price drop would be nice too. Telus is the quickest so far with the updates. I'm personally waiting for the htc nexus hopefully killer hardware and software at a reasonable price.
malek777 said:
Agreed. A price drop would be nice too. Telus is the quickest so far with the updates. I'm personally waiting for the htc nexus hopefully killer hardware and software at a reasonable price.
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yeah the htc nexus will be a killer phone the 10 has been amazing so far just the update is annoying me and htc is not blame for that!
obk88 said:
yeah the htc nexus will be a killer phone the 10 has been amazing so far just the update is annoying me and htc is not blame for that!
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Does the htc come with the headphones like the international model?
malek777 said:
Does the htc come with the headphones like the international model?
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No headphones but i got my own bose ones
obk88 said:
Got my phone on April 29th only received one update so far which was on launch day. Im on 1.21.666.1
I was wondering if i can use the htc unlocked NA RUU from their website to upgrade my firmware?
Contacted bell about the update they have no clue...i dont think they are selling well in Canada...i dont think they are taking the firmware update seriously so i was looking at other options.
I would really appreciate it if someone can help me
Thank You
***RECEIVED THE OTA UPDATE IN THE MORNING MAY 26TH***
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Hi how was the 1.53 update for you... I'm sceptical sometimes of updates... So just wondering if you feel your phone is better performance after installing the update or not? Appreciate any opinion on this thanks!
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Quick question regarding software updates. Also, a warning about buying a G8S

So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
jericho246 said:
So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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It should recieve otas, but for some reason people here have had problems. You probably bought a Sprint phone, and I also bought that and recieved otas while being on a different network. I don't know if being in Europe makes a difference
jericho246 said:
So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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AT&T and Sprint versions won't receive updates
But T-Mobile and Verizon will
Lediju said:
AT&T and Sprint versions won't receive updates
But T-Mobile and Verizon will
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source?
jericho246 said:
source?
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I presently own a LG v40 ATT and LG G8 T-Mobile my LG v40 never get an ota update but my LG G8 does
Lediju said:
I presently own a LG v40 ATT and LG G8 T-Mobile my LG v40 never get an ota update but my LG G8 does
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
I have the Sprint version with an AT&T sim and I have received all ota updates so far.
jericho246 said:
Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Yes they should all work. That's just wierd glitches by chance that guy is talking about. I even uninstalled all Sprint stuff and still recieved otas
In the case of AT&T models, it is not a glitch: They are known to only provide updates if you're an AT&T postpaid customer or on one of a few AT&T MVNOs. Strangely, AT&T-owned Cricket isn't one of them (last I heard). AT&T also doesn't publish KDZs, so you cannot update manually. Check the V30, V35 and V40 forums, you'll find lots of threads discussing this.
T-Mobile models generally get OTA updates no matter which network you're on. They also publish KDZs, so you can update manually. Same with Verizon. Sprint doesn't publish KDZs, but I believe their models do receive OTA updates, even on other networks.
While it would seem that T-Mobile models are more attractive because of this, the opposite is generally true, since they are very hard to carrier unlock: They can ONLY be unlocked with T-Mobile's Device Unlock app, NOT with codes from 3rd parties. Even if you buy a carrier unlocked T-Mobile phone on eBay or Amazon, it will be re-locked if you ever send it to LG for repair or replacement. And T-Mobile will NOT grant unlock in those cases, unless you are a T-Mobile customer in good standing and the phone has been on their network for some time (40 days postpaid or 1 year prepaid).
There is a reason why AT&T and T-Mobile models ("GSM unlocked") are generally cheaper on eBay and elsewhere.
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In the case of AT&T models, it is not a glitch: They are known to only provide updates if you're an AT&T postpaid customer or on one of a few AT&T MVNOs. Strangely, AT&T-owned Cricket isn't one of them (last I heard). AT&T also doesn't publish KDZs, so you cannot update manually. Check the V30, V35 and V40 forums, you'll find lots of threads discussing this.
T-Mobile models generally get OTA updates no matter which network you're on. They also publish KDZs, so you can update manually. Same with Verizon. Sprint doesn't publish KDZs, but I believe their models do receive OTA updates, even on other networks.
While it would seem that T-Mobile models are more attractive because of this, the opposite is generally true, since they are very hard to carrier unlock: They can ONLY be unlocked with T-Mobile's Device Unlock app, NOT with codes from 3rd parties. Even if you buy a carrier unlocked T-Mobile phone on eBay or Amazon, it will be re-locked if you ever send it to LG for repair or replacement. And T-Mobile will NOT grant unlock in those cases, unless you are a T-Mobile customer in good standing and the phone has been on their network for some time (40 days postpaid or 1 year prepaid).
There is a reason why AT&T and T-Mobile models ("GSM unlocked") are generally cheaper on eBay and elsewhere.
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Sprint are the cheapest always
antintin said:
Sprint are the cheapest always
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When talking used G8 units on eBay, I found that too. But if you're looking for new units (warrantied) and/or outside eBay those "GSM unlocked" models (G820TM and G820UA) seem to dominate and have the lowest prices.
It generally varies with the phone models: In the V30 market the Sprint LS998 has become one of the most attractive among US models (other than the rare open-market US998U and US998R) and thus often they're more expensive. In the V35 market, AT&T models flood the market (V350AWM).
I really don't know what you're doing with your phones but I've been using my G8s since release day and even though it fell hard SEVERAL times the only issue I have is a little deep scratch on the display.
The case it shipped with I only used 50% of the time because I love the glossy, mirror-like finish of the back glass.
Frau Son said:
I really don't know what you're doing with your phones but I've been using my G8s since release day and even though it fell hard SEVERAL times the only issue I have is a little deep scratch on the display.
The case it shipped with I only used 50% of the time because I love the glossy, mirror-like finish of the back glass.
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Did you mean to post in this thread, which is about software updates?

Which version of the LG G8 to get today for trouble free OTA updates?

I currently have a G7 ULM which was the unlocked version for the US. I bout it from Google Fi, but this phone since it is not carrier specific will never be updated by LG. Still on Android 9.
Other versions of the G7 have received OTA updates.
So I wonder which version of the LG G8 I should buy in order to not get stuck (apparently they will update up to Android 11 for this model)
But I need a GSM unlocked G8 that I can update OTA using any carrier other than the one it is tied to.
Which one would you recommend for this and also for less bloatware etc?
I really like having the fingerprint sensor on the back and it seems that the LG G8 is the last iteration of phones from LG with this feature and it is an upgrade from the G7. (which is great in my opinion)
It is cheap here in the US too.
Suggestions appreciated.
Thanks a lot.
Just came across your post. I have an unlocked LG G8 that I purchased from Best Buy running on Verizon. I have had some OTA updates but, as you know, LG is slow with them. I am on Android 10 with the 4/1/21 security patch. They say that it's supposed to get Android 11; keeping my fingers crossed. I hope this helps a little.
OldSk00l60 said:
Just came across your post. I have an unlocked LG G8 that I purchased from Best Buy running on Verizon. I have had some OTA updates but, as you know, LG is slow with them. I am on Android 10 with the 4/1/21 security patch. They say that it's supposed to get Android 11; keeping my fingers crossed. I hope this helps a little.
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thanks man! You are the only one who likes pink floyd apparently lol..
I have Tmobile and would need a version that works with tmobile.. not sure which one to get. The unlocked versions are harder to get updates because according to a rep from LG they need to test with many carriers before they release the OTA update. May or may not be true.
But thanks for your input !
Brighter85 said:
thanks man! You are the only one who likes pink floyd apparently lol..
I have Tmobile and would need a version that works with tmobile.. not sure which one to get. The unlocked versions are harder to get updates because according to a rep from LG they need to test with many carriers before they release the OTA update. May or may not be true.
But thanks for your input !
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Yep, I do like Pink Floyd. Amazon does have some lg g8’s both unlocked and locked to t-mobile. Most of them seem to be “renewed”, as they put it. T-mobile locked would be best as long as t-mobile keeps up on their updates. Hopefully lg will keep their promise to bring out Android 11 for these phones.
I hope that you’re able to find a good deal.

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