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i was wondering whether the custom roms are significantly different than the stock roms provided by google. is it really worth to flash custom roms or use stock jelly bean 4.1.1???
It's really up to you to decide whether they are worth flashing. if you are satisfied with what google provides with JB then they are not worth the effort otherwise if you want MORE like some extra performance, extra customization, features, themes then i should say they are well worth the effort.
Personally i love them even though i don't use all of them but still appreciate the work of every DEV. Think its great to have choice and that wouldn't have been possible without DEVS.
Currently Stock 4.1.1, looking forward to CM10.
ZaQX10 said:
It's really up to you to decide whether they are worth flashing. if you are satisfied with what google provides with JB then they are not worth the effort otherwise if you want MORE like some extra performance, extra customization, features, themes then i should say they are well worth the effort.
Personally i love them even though i don't use all of them but still appreciate the work of every DEV. Think its great to have choice and that wouldn't have been possible without DEVS.
Currently Stock 4.1.1, looking forward to CM10.
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if i root my stock ics, wont i get any official updates via ota??
You will still get ota updates as long as you don't switch ROMs
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This ROM >>> [ROM] [OTA] [GSM] [JB] JRO03C 4.1.1: Rooted & Busybox Deodexed Odexed (7/10/12) for me it's better than 4.1.1 Stock ROM from Google.
Stock ROM from Google drain much battery life of my Gnex.
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if i root my stock ics, wont i get any official updates via ota??
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AFAIK to be able to install official OTA you need to be stock. If you are rooting the phone you are going to install some mods/tweaks obviously? In that case before trying to install OTA you need all files modified/ replaced by those mods/tweaks to be stock. You can use GNexToolKit (development section for link and detail) to achieve that. (not tried that myself but easiest i guess). Always be sure to backup your data.
mohaimed said:
i was wondering whether the custom roms are significantly different than the stock roms provided by google. is it really worth to flash custom roms or use stock jelly bean 4.1.1???
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100% personal choice. Some like it each way.
I have a AT&T GS3 and am running cyanogenmod 10 stable version but it is set with a pure android os, and i liked all the features that the samsung nature ui offered. Would it be possible to put back the nature ui??
Vman4 said:
I have a AT&T GS3 and am running cyanogenmod 10 stable version but it is set with a pure android os, and i liked all the features that the samsung nature ui offered. Would it be possible to put back the nature ui??
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No. You either have to choose between AOSP or TW. TW being the original.
Vman4 said:
I have a AT&T GS3 and am running cyanogenmod 10 stable version but it is set with a pure android os, and i liked all the features that the samsung nature ui offered. Would it be possible to put back the nature ui??
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if you want to return your phone to factory touchwiz style and settings, i've attached a link. these are the stock firmwares for each carrier. download the correct one and there ya go. i've also attached a link with directions for using odin to flash if this is what you're wanting to do. read over this and understand what you're doing before proceeding. cheers
stock firmware (touchwiz): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1968625&highlight=stock+firmware
odin software and samsung drivers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671969
personally i'd prefer AOSP roms better than touchwiz
there are only a few things i really love from TW like the S Notes...
but again if you want TW, just download stock rom and flash it with odin
alternatively you can actually download TW theme for your CM/AOKP rom too(if you want to stick with CM/AOKP/AOSP roms while want the TW looks and feel)
I dont really want all of the bloatware by just flashing a stock one. Im a noob to this, could i flash a different kernal??
Vman4 said:
I dont really want all of the bloatware by just flashing a stock one. Im a noob to this, could i flash a different kernal??
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Like I mentioned, you can't have TW on a AOSP ROM. But you can flash a custom TW ROM if you really want those features. You'll find them in the Dev section (not the original).
There are also debloated stock firmware on here but after getting a taste of custom ROM, I believe you'll want to stick with them
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I dont really want all of the bloatware by just flashing a stock one. Im a noob to this, could i flash a different kernal??
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there are several solid roms in the android development section are debloated versions of stock touchwiz. all the garbage has been removed and some cool features have been added in. i've heard the cs rom and graviton are good. read up on these and make sure you understand how our phones work in general. i wouldnt start playing around with roms, kernels, etc until you know more. wouldnt want to see your phone bricked.
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
wtr_dhd said:
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
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WiredPirate said:
Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
wtr_dhd said:
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
wtr_dhd said:
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
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bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
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Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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Hi, I am looking for a ROM that is stable and faster than stock. What ROM would be the best for this? I haven't really tried ROMs since I last put Cyanogenmod on my CDMA HTC Hero, so I don't have the best idea of what's out there and what works. I also searched "performance ROM" just to make sure this hadn't been asked recently.
I'm running TWRP and the latest SuperSU, if that matters.
archer007 said:
Hi, I am looking for a ROM that is stable and faster than stock. What ROM would be the best for this? I haven't really tried ROMs since I last put Cyanogenmod on my CDMA HTC Hero, so I don't have the best idea of what's out there and what works. I also searched "performance ROM" just to make sure this hadn't been asked recently.
I'm running TWRP and the latest SuperSU, if that matters.
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There won't be a faster Rom. What you can try is flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Although, imho, you won't be blown away by the increased performance, it's all marginal.
Stock Rom is already very fast. Other Roms will also be very fast. It's usually a matter of options that the custom Roms offer. You can tweak more. But will they have a noticeable performance improvement, I think not. YMMV obviously
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There won't be a faster Rom. What you can try is flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Although, imho, you won't be blown away by the increased performance, it's all marginal.
Stock Rom is already very fast. Other Roms will also be very fast. It's usually a matter of options that the custom Roms offer. You can tweak more. But will they have a noticeable performance improvement, I think not. YMMV obviously
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Ah, thank you. I had such a massive performance jump from 1.6 to 2.2 and then 2.2 to 2.3 Cyanogenmod on my Hero that I thought I might get something similar out of a custom ROM again.
archer007 said:
Ah, thank you. I had such a massive performance jump from 1.6 to 2.2 and then 2.2 to 2.3 Cyanogenmod on my Hero that I thought I might get something similar out of a custom ROM again.
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Simply make a Nandroid of your current Rom and experiment like crazy
If you find a custom Rom that blows you away: keep using it. If you don't find any advantages or worse: restore Nandroid :good:
Custom ROM makes only sense if you want special functions / features of a specific ROM.
Many special features can also be activated in stock ROM by apps like Xposed, GMD apps etc.
So most probably a custom ROM is unnecessary. Just look for a good kernel (Franco, Elementalx, Faux...) if you want added performance, battery life or filesystem support.
I'm new to this and looking for a fully functional and stable ROM for my i747. Any help would be appreciated. I've tried cm12 and 13 but the buggyness (not a word) proved too problematic for me. I've also tried RR KitKat version and really liked it but I also need my bluetooth to function, which it did not. So if you can please give me some ideas on good stable ROM's that have all features working properly I would really appreciate the help.
The most stable rom would be the latest stock rom.
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The most stable rom would be the latest stock rom.
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Is there a way to get the latest stock rom without the extra bloatware?
I recommend installing a stock ROM, rooting, and using Titanium Backup to freeze or uninstall apps.
drbg said:
Is there a way to get the latest stock rom without the extra bloatware?
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Have you tried enewman's S3 Rx ROM? I think it comes without the bloatware, I am not 100% sure though.